Mini 1772 ~ Game Over

[Lowell]

VOTE: lovely

[Lowell]

I'm not convinced. I'm the self-vote queen, and I've managed to use it strategically pretty often.

Oh wow is that who I'm voting? Uses the self-vote "strategically"? Ugh. Can we get a dayvig here please.

[Lowell]

guy is town. GWS is scum. That last post was an obvious try-hard.

[Lowell]

I guess GWS is going to double-down on that try-hard thing by trying even harder to look like an active player. Whatever. There are worse things, I guess, but I'm not sold.

I like FA for town. Mostly. And dislike that guy (I forget who) who felt the need to give a treatise on why he doesn't like RVS. Dumb.

[Lowell]

I like dier's 97. He's town, and postie is a decent vote. Although...

VOTE: GWS

He's trying to win us over with pure adrenaline, and I still don't really buy it. If you don't see this like I do it's a hard case to explain, given his posting rate and mine. His playstyle looks both gleeful and calculated, he's too happy to have meta-discussions about vigkills (?!?), and his jumping on the lovely-wagon just now looks opportunistic (I've read enough to know lovely isn't going to argue his way out of lynch if enough aggressive players are on it). More to the point, lynching GWS becomes harder and harder the more he hums along as an activity hog.

[Lowell]

Reading back, to answer the mail: Guy is pretty clearly a town troll. Which I'm basically fine with, having evolved from a town troll myself. Also I respectfully refuse to answer almost's question.

[Lowell]

@GWS- It's not just the activity that makes me think you're scum, it's the type of activity. Things like, for example, how despite your activeness all you can come up with is a last-ditch Lowell/lovely/whoever scumteam theory based on what looks to be OMGUS*. Looks like you're just dancing around trying to look busy. In far fewer posts other players (me, for example?) have been able to come up with far more constructive (independent) theories on who is scum and why.

@FA- welcome back, vote GWS.

@all- lovely is town. I've come full circle on him, yes, but better late than never.

* though I'm sure by pointing this out I'm subjecting myself to an intimidating yet ultimately empty textwall of why it isn't.

[Lowell]

chilled is town.

[Lowell]

comme un american, c'est presque impossible d'imaginer que on peut utilizer une otre langue courrement. (ca c'est mon petit francais de quand j'habitais en france pendant deux ans... sans google translate! je m'excuse...)

[Lowell]

The n_n slot seems town. Or am I not supposed to talk about it.

[Lowell]

I see a lot of talk about Gale and not a lot of votes for Gale.

[Lowell]

@GWS- don't blame me if lovely decides to be a Lowell fanboy. I have that effect on people.

@FA 282- you like that answer? looks awful to me.

[Lowell]

I agree w/ FA, 412 is damning. I had started to drift towards lovely as town, but now, in addition to this post (and with a healthy dose of confirmation bias, I'm sure) I see some uncomfortable buddying (of me). His crocodile tears and theatrical accusations of people playing "against wincon" after (what appeared to be) the lynch make no sense unless he knows the person being lynched is town (and that the person DOING the lynching is town, for that matter).

So this is a bonus. If lovely

is

scum, we can pretty much guarantee creature is town, as is the purported hammerer (who I forget).

VOTE: lovely

Let's not be gunshy here. Be brave, someone hammer.

[Lowell]

The "hammerer" mentioned above being FA, I now see.

If lovely is scum, creature and FA are town.

[Lowell]

It does have to do with his flip, if you believe his being scum is a result of lovely's crying wolf on the supposed lynch. If it were a lynch on his scumbuddy, then he wouldn't talk about people playing against wincon. If it were a lynch

by

his scumbuddy, he wouldn't talk about people playing against wincon. Stop overthinking.

[Lowell]

isn't it obvious that I don't give a shit about my town win condition if I'm really the one who is getting lynched?

yeah its against my win condition. report me after the game. I dare you.

I don't care about whether you played against your win condition, I want to understand Lowell post.

The way I read it lovely started bitching as soon as the "lynch" was achieved, blaming ppl for playing against wincon. How could he do this unless he knew the lynchee was town? Seems obvious, what am I missing?

[Lowell]

@Lowell

chilled is town.

Reasoning?

Also

I like FA for town. Mostly. And dislike that guy (I forget who) who felt the need to give a treatise on why he doesn't like RVS. Dumb.

Can you go into more details on this?

Asked these questions a while back. Would still be interested in the answers.

Strong newbtown vibe on chilled. no other way to explain it. And my FA townvibe is even stronger now given her role in the lovely scumslip and her general activity level.

[Lowell]

This is an inventive case. In a good way... I think.

Though I'm not sure why you need to derail us to pistachio if you think lovely is probably scum too. Seems unnecessary at best, scummy at worst.

[Lowell]

Did someone claim or something? I haven't really been paying attention.

Also, lovely's weird arrival to "be suspicious" of the wagon that derailed his wagon deserves an oscar. Just insufferably smarmy. This guy is scum, and the GWS case on pista, while fine I guess, to the extent that I didn't even know this guy was in the game, bores me.

[Lowell]

Nope. As scum I'm way better.

VOTE: pistachio

I'll do this, if that's what's happening. I still don't see this more than the lovely case, but whatever.

[Lowell]

I kind of got a weird feeling about GWS and lovely ...

Literally what I've been saying the whole damn day. Good luck getting a bandwagon to stick on those guys...

[Lowell]

chilled is town. Not sure I've said that already. But it's clear.

[Lowell]

chilled is exactly right about this, as unsavory as it is. Hence the townpoints for having the gall to point it out.

[Lowell]

VOTE: postie

Can someone lay out the not_mafia case in case they end up dead? I'm always around at endgame so I need to feast on the brains of others until then.

[Lowell]

But it has to be either FA or postie, right? So if postie is doc somehow, we lynch FA, yah?

I guess my question is why would FA out herself as scum just to hammer some random player we might have lynched anyway.

[Lowell]

wait so is postie actually town then? Because then I really don't understand.

[Lowell]

Well now I hope FA is scum if this is going to come back on me, somehow.

Granted I'm biased, but I don't see anything in your Postie/Lowell mixtape. Besides, as scum I bus the crap out of my partners.

[Lowell]

So is the day over or what? I'm starting to believe postie the more I hear from her. I'm not sure what scum has to gain by so much twilight talk.

Unless of course it ISN'T twilight and she knows that, in which case... ignore me.

[Lowell]

so that was a lot of nothing, that whole FA/postie debate in twilight, then?

[Lowell]

lowell my first bet

Whatever you may think, I would not have been nearly dumb enough to do what this scumteam said. That said, yes, kisses your way... my god this game got easy fast.

VOTE: lovely

Doublehammer?

Also DAMMIT I SAID LOVELY WAS SCUM FROM THE BEGINNING UGH.

[Lowell]

said = did, obv

[Lowell]

I know. Embarassing. I mean, I may not be that good, but I HAVE been here for nearly a decade now...

roleblocker popcorn claim tomorrow. Discuss?

[Lowell]

gosh guys, never seen a group so disappointed to find out I'm not scum.

[Lowell]

Not really caught up, but it's probably gale.

You know, like I've been saying the whole time while people think of me as dumb enough to keep FA alive as scum. And no I'm never getting over this.

[Lowell]

Back at work tomorrow. I'll hopefully have time for a readthrough.

Clearly no one knows what to do anymore now that they can't just lazily sheep attacks on me. Great.

[Lowell]

^^^ this is a scummy post... I particularly dislike posts assigning scum agency for NKs. This is something we humble townies don't spend a lot of time doing.

[Lowell]

Chilled, what do you think. You're the one dying tonight so you deserve a vengeance kill.

Can we just kill Gale and be done with it or what?

[Lowell]

I'm seeing the interpretation of Trin as newbexcitedtown lately, in theory. But on the other hand, based on the FA thing, we know whoever's left for scums is some sort of rube. So a newb fits that bill. So, I guess Gale or Trin is fine with me.

[Lowell]

I've seen enough.

VOTE: GWS

I've been saying this forever, so this will be great vindication if it turns out to be right. If not, see ya'll tomorrow (well, most of you!).

[Lowell]

So, we done here or what?

[Lowell]

so... more scummy, then?

[Lowell]

Probably, let us wait for the flip. This game has been so weird. I just hope that there is only one more mafia remaining. It is under that assumption that we have decided on our lynch.

Didn't think about that. Meh, if there's four scum that's pretty bastard, so I'd be okay losing.

[Lowell]

Can someone just confess. Gah the waiting!

[Lowell]

well done gang. satisfying win, that.

great job FA. wish i had stuck with my guns early on gale... took us forever to get back to him.