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In post 35, lovelygiant wrote:it's like I'm playing against an entire roster of KainTepes
kill me please
CAN U STOP TROLLING ????
CAN U START TALKIN NORMALLY WITH VOTES AND DAYVG ???????
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In post 26, GuyFawkes wrote:So lovely giant is scum
Should we give everybody else a chance to play or just lynch him now?
We can lynch him so he can be out ?- BlueTrin
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In post 46, lovelygiant wrote:This thread reminded me of it on its own. The worst part is that the account is a troll account created by a very (arguably) sane individual who knows how to type normally. Just a shitposting joke account.
LovelyGiant, I was messing around, we are still missing players: I didn't see Frozen Angel.
I think she often goes out of Friday evening, so we are unlikely to see her until tomorrow.- BlueTrin
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In post 50, chilledtea wrote:
This is clearly OMGUS and hence proved, that creatures are scum.
You are all scum
VOTE: Creature
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In post 57, Gale Wing Srock wrote:Wow a bunch of scummy trolls this game lol.
BlueTrin's posts are meh.
VOTE: BlueTrin
Lovelygiant, do you think GuyFawkes is scum or do you think he is trolling?
Creature, is 48 OMGUS or are you still in RVS?
Almost50, lets hope we get to play a while together this game. And I don't think you are crazy, because your catchup post in Open 626 was quiet insightful.
Postie, what do you think about BlueTrin and Lovelygiant?
Chilledtea, I need more than that to vote Creature, because its posts are troll posts at best.
GuyFawkes, I knew a player named Guyett and it was a pain to work along with him, because I thought he was indeed a jester irl (probably his real life passion). Can you tell me if you are trolling or not?
Lowell, I sense the same thing, too stuck up in his mindset wrt the setup. Will come back to this in a bit.
PEdit: Sweet!
In post 64, Gale Wing Srock wrote:Lowellidk about that, but GuyFawkes just got serious after my post. And why are you town reading him?
Pista, I am not liking Blue because he is mixing troll posts with serious ones and is throwing around votes to get them to stick. Post 51 after 49 is what has pinged me the most, so thats why my vote is on him.
Lovelygiant, well GuyFawkes just mentioned that he was having fun in RVS. What do you think about that? Doesn't seem like he was faking with troll posts as Blue seems to be doing.
Lol you have no clue about psychology: we were pretty much playing around then your post is reading seriously the previous page.
Now you are wondering why Guy Fawkes is being serious after your non sensical post ?
Are you a psychopath ? This does not make you scum but how can you take seriously the previous page ? Lmao !- BlueTrin
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In post 70, chilledtea wrote:There is a reason I don't like rvs. It just doesn't do much for me.
For eg, I personally think GWS reaction is null tell.
RVS is just there to get people starting to talk
I agree with you, GWS reaction is null to me. I understand he wants to get the real game to start.
It is just that his list is like ... Wtf ? Did you understand that people were just playing around ?
Then he wonders why people are getting serious after trying to get some order in the game ???
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In post 73, Frozen Angel wrote:what do you know about Psychology Bluetrin?
Not much, but enough to just understand that GuyFawkes went serious because GWS post had a different tone, you don't need to be a genius to understand that. Somehow this eluded GWS- BlueTrin
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In post 72, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 54, Postie wrote:VOTE: Frozen Angel
Because she'll be calling for my policy lynch right about now.
I love you guys too!
You were out yesterday ?
Noticed that you don't post on Friday evenings
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In post 81, Gale Wing Srock wrote:Either you don't understand not getting in the way of things, or you are scum. I am leaning on the latter right now, because none of your plays are helping us atm.
Pedit: This I got to see.
Well since you insist on this point, I would see it as slightly scummy as you are rigid on your position and insist that you could see something useful in my posts in RVS, because nobody could claim that these posts were not just random RVS while waiting for more players to join. And keeping the bullshit in this is very anti town as it causes distraction.- BlueTrin
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In post 82, Creature wrote:I don't see what's wrong with 57.
What's the best way to get out of RVS? Reading the votes.
What are we earning from reading these votes? Nothing.
Then how it helps? People will stop trolling and post their opinions.
And what are we earning from this? We're getting real tells.
Very True,
There is nothing wrong, with #57, his reaction over afterwards is a bit of a stretch.
In post 64, Gale Wing Srock wrote:Lowellidk about that, but GuyFawkes just got serious after my post. And why are you town reading him?
Pista, I am not liking Blue because he is mixing troll posts with serious ones and is throwing around votes to get them to stick. Post 51 after 49 is what has pinged me the most, so thats why my vote is on him.
Lovelygiant, well GuyFawkes just mentioned that he was having fun in RVS. What do you think about that? Doesn't seem like he was faking with troll posts as Blue seems to be doing.
First, of all he says that I am wasting other people time in RVS, which is fair enough, but as you can see nothing was going on so it was actually the best way to get people to start talking, this is why it wasn't useful. You can see as well that we stopped immediately as the game was becoming serious.
So now he says that I must be scum for throwing random votes during a part of the gamewhere he was inactive and neither helping or participating and where people were just trolling around? Then he accuses GuyFawkes of becoming serious whenhe implicitly asked himself the game to be more serious.
This does not make any sense.
So I wanted to know if it was a reaction test and kind of wanted to know if it mostly a reaction test, it does not seems so.
In post 74, Gale Wing Srock wrote:In post 71, BlueTrin wrote:
I understand he wants to get the real game to start.
It is just that his list is like ... Wtf ? Did you understand that people were just playing around ?
Then he wonders why people are getting serious after trying to get some order in the game ???
Not scum, just nonsense
That is what I wanted to do, and that is what has happened, but can you tell me what you think is nonsense in my post (be specific)? and why do you think I am a psychopath?
AlsoPostie, you ignored my question for you. Whats up?
Regarding GuyFawkes, I just got a weird tinge from 58 during my reread.
So excuse me if I don't take his opinion too seriously.
Although I am grateful for him to start the game and make us exit RVS.
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In post 87, Frozen Angel wrote:In post 60, Lowell wrote:guy is town. GWS is scum. That last post was an obvious try-hard.
I had the complete vise versa read.
why an attempt to end RVS is scummy move and a guy who responded I'm not trolling I' just keeping the game in RVS is town?
GWS is probably town for ending RVS, you are right.- BlueTrin
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In post 90, Frozen Angel wrote:what happned to your read about gale reaction after that post?! :/
Its just uncomfortable to see how you just backed of when I shared my read ...
In post 91, Postie wrote:In post 76, Gale Wing Srock wrote:Postie, I want to understand if my read on BlueTrin and Lovelygiant is something that matches yours or not. Makes me read the players better that way.
Well, the tone of BlueTrin's posts makes me uneasy, but it might be that he just always talks that way so ehh (I'll go take a look at some of his past games later when I'm not phone posting). Not sure on lovelygiant either, but I think I have gut townlean.
Why did you want to know about these two specifically and why did you choose to ask me about them over any other player?
In post 89, BlueTrin wrote:GWS is probably town for ending RVS
Why?
The RVS purpose is only to get people to talk.
Once people are talking RVS is not much more useful unless we just do reaction tests.
By ending RVS, GWS helps us to have more constructive discussions, this is usually pro town. It could also be scum trying to look townie, we will see.
FA, he only moved from slightly scummy to slightly townish in my mind, this is not a massive difference and we are at the beginning of D1. What is the most important is to get the game going so we have more accurate reads.- BlueTrin
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Spoiler: 101
About ruining your reaction test: this seems a very contrived argument, you name me, accuse me and now accuse myself of defending myself. If you mixed my name and GuyFawkes into the same line of reasoning you can expect one to fight back the whole argument. Next time, if you want separate reaction tests, separate them.
You are the one showing rigidness here and I am not the only one to say this.
In post 102, lovelygiant wrote:I appreciate your activity, Gale, but a lot of it seems flippant. Are the answers you recieve from your questions actually helping you with your reads, or are you asking them to just look busy and helpful?
In post 98, Lowell wrote:I guess GWS is going to double-down on that try-hard thing by trying even harder to look like an active player. Whatever. There are worse things, I guess, but I'm not sold.
I think Lowell quite predicted the next move, above.
For now:
Town
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{FA,Lowell,lovelygiant}
{GuyFawkes,Creature,Pistachion,Almost50,Dierfire,ChilledTea,}
{GWS,Postie}
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GWS, everytime I re-read this thread I change my opinion about you leaning town or scum.
On the plus side, I find you active and possibly straightfoward. This is good because it encourages discussion.
On the negative side, I feel like you are tunnelling me and using RVS very seriously. No matter what I will say you will now say that it proves your theories even more. So I am a bit tired of this, lynch me and see me flipping town if you want, I do not care so much. For some reason I seem to attract the ire of someone early on D1 in every game I played.
I can't tell if it is because you are scum rigid and you will not back down to not lose any consistency or if this is an elaborate reaction test.
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For FA, I didn't find any anger or stress in her posts although she didn't post much, she also questionned my change of read on GWS, which is healthy and thought that I was trying to buddy her up, which is good, because she does not look like she is looking for buddies to join her wagons.
She sees a small defensiveness on GuyFawkes, which means that she is trying to sort the game out.
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I didn't like this post from Postie:
In post 75, Postie wrote:
I'll answer your question if you can tell me what you're hoping to gain from my answer.
Why would he need to know what you hope to gain ?
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Lowell accused GWS to look like an active player, it could be seen as scum trying to slow the game down but using balance of probabilities, I think it is more likely he is expressing his opinion. Also because this is a contradictory opinion, in the same way than FA, I do not believe that he is trying to buddy up.
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For Guy Fawkes, I do not see what GWS accuse him. GWS tone was very accusing, I would be surprised if there was no defensiveness.
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For lovely giant, he is between leaning town and null to me.
I like the fact that he was trying to get out of RVS but there is a small dissonance between this and keeping his vote on GuyFawkes, while he accuses GWS of being flippant. If he wants to vote GuyFawkes, I am not sure why he would mention GWS of being flippant ?
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Terminator is not talking, I don't like this.
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Dierfire, chilledtea and Pistachion didn't talk much.
Creature, Almost50 didn't talk much out of RVS.- BlueTrin
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In post 113, Postie wrote:In post 112, BlueTrin wrote:I didn't like this post from Postie:
In post 75, Postie wrote:
I'll answer your question if you can tell me what you're hoping to gain from my answer.
Why would he need to know what you hope to gain ?
Because the question was superficial, so I wanted to know whether there was some kind of town thought process or mindset behind it or whether GWS was just trying to look busy.
K basically you say that you did a reaction test yourself.- BlueTrin
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In post 119, lovelygiant wrote:In post 87, Frozen Angel wrote:In post 60, Lowell wrote:guy is town. GWS is scum. That last post was an obvious try-hard.
I had the complete vise versa read.
why an attempt to end RVS is scummy move and a guy who responded I'm not trolling I' just keeping the game in RVS is town?
I find FA and Lowell towny despite their polarizing opinions here. FA speaks from a place of genuine concern IMO, and shows real curiosity. Town read. Lowell has been somewhat commanding but calls out GWS' try-hardiness first (if I'm remembering correctly) and I like that.
Which reminds me, I wanted to ask Lowell: Why is Guy a town-read for you? Am I missing something?
@BlueTrin: I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Am I not supposed to find two people scummy at the same time? There is more than one mafia.
I thought you didn't like GuyFawkes reaction to GWS but you called GWS reaction flippant and I think this is why you find GWS scummy.
Surely if you find him flippant, this would explain GuyFawkes reaction ?- BlueTrin
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In post 135, lovelygiant wrote:@BlueTrin:
I didn't like Guy's response tome, not Gale.
And I'm backing off of my Guy read because I'm getting cold feet and thinking I've prejudged. Gale is appearing scummier to me right now.
Understood your first point.
It is possibly because I am new, but I find it much harder to get accurate guesses here compared to SC2 Mafia or Town of Salem, because the days are much longer people have much more time to prepare themselves.
I didn't find GWS really scummy, but just strange at first. However the fact that he is clinging so much onto details and refuse to back down sounded to me rigid, which is sometimes scummy as scum try to keep everything coherent.
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In post 145, Gale Wing Srock wrote:MOD, can we have a prod on Frozen Angel please?
Sweet!
Almost50,
Could you weigh in on a few things that has happened though?
This game is suffering from a lack of activity, and Lowell calls me out on being active, why do you guys think that it is not scummy is beyond me. *sigh*
GWS, frankly it is good that you are active, but do you think you have been a bit tunelling ?
If you are sure that you will get something out the tunelling please continue, but could you see a case for this letting the scum hide if your reads are incorrect ? I think this is why some people are maybe reading you as scum, especially that you are not new.
By all means, continue to question me if you believe that I am scum, but if you death tunnel someone and the wagon is not coming you need to change your approach or it creates less discussion for the rest of the town ?- BlueTrin
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Gale went from:
- overagressive and accusing people over details, and accusing them no matter what was the reaction
- to justifying the noise for activity
- to a position where he would justify every of his actions
- now he is saying ... everything was just a gigantic reaction test !
Sorry, but if everybody was just saying that everything is a reaction test everytime they have some difficulty, we wouldn't get very far, would we ?- BlueTrin
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In post 357, Antihero wrote:In post 354, Frozen Angel wrote:I hate when i see people who thinks their smart but they have absoloutly no clue
i will freely admit that i don't have (much of) a clue and i'm probably a mediocre scumhunter
doesn't mean i can't try
I seem to always find lurkers scummy and end up killing town myself.- BlueTrin
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Try to wear colours.- BlueTrin
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In post 254, Antihero wrote:In post 82, Creature wrote:I don't see what's wrong with 57.
What's the best way to get out of RVS? Reading the votes.
What are we earning from reading these votes? Nothing.
Then how it helps? People will stop trolling and post their opinions.
And what are we earning from this? We're getting real tells.
/whiteknights gale
/does absolutely nothing with this opinion that gale is being unjustly attacked
Sorry, I don't know if FA is town, but your opinions are really weird for me and I would like to disagree, but you were too lazy to post some argumentation in your reads, so basically we can't even discuss.- BlueTrin
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In post 470, GoodNightMsGreen wrote:In post 393, lovelygiant wrote:Wow. That was a neat read.
Town vs town, boring, moving along.
I'll VOTE: Creature for now. I'm still looking at Gale for a future lynch, but I'm trying not to old their hopeful scumteam narratives against them. That seems like it's legitimately part of their play, and it's more scum hunting than I've seen from some folks.
In post 139, lovelygiant wrote:And I'm not convinced Guy is town because I think Lowell is town, though I definitely include it in consideration. I find Guy less scummy than you. I can only vote one at a time.
Entering a wisdom teeth/dentist appt, will hopefully post after but if I'm not feeling fantastic and take the day off, you'll know why.
In post 467, Frozen Angel wrote:In post 412, lovelygiant wrote:If there's one thing that gets under my skin, it's players ruining the game and not playing to their win con. It's unprofessional, immature, and a complete buzzkill. Get it together or get lost, to be honest.
^ She is talking like she totally knows I'm town and creture is town
Sorry but if you were scum, his argument holds too ?
Sorry that was me. I need to get two browsers I guess ...
Frozen Angel, I don't get it.
Whether you are scum or town, his argument about you gamethrowing holds ?- BlueTrin
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In post 530, Lowell wrote:I agree w/ FA, 412 is damning. I had started to drift towards lovely as town, but now, in addition to this post (and with a healthy dose of confirmation bias, I'm sure) I see some uncomfortable buddying (of me). His crocodile tears and theatrical accusations of people playing "against wincon" after (what appeared to be) the lynch make no sense unless he knows the person being lynched is town (and that the person DOING the lynching is town, for that matter).
So this is a bonus. If lovelyisscum, we can pretty much guarantee creature is town, as is the purported hammerer (who I forget).
VOTE: lovely
Let's not be gunshy here. Be brave, someone hammer.
This 412.
In post 412, lovelygiant wrote:If there's one thing that gets under my skin, it's players ruining the game and not playing to their win con. It's unprofessional, immature, and a complete buzzkill. Get it together or get lost, to be honest.
This is his last vote:
In post 393, lovelygiant wrote:Wow. That was a neat read.
Town vs town, boring, moving along.
I'll VOTE: Creature for now. I'm still looking at Gale for a future lynch, but I'm trying not to old their hopeful scumteam narratives against them. That seems like it's legitimately part of their play, and it's more scum hunting than I've seen from some folks.
Can you explain to me the logic about what is damning here ?
I am trying to understand, whether you are scum or town, voting yourself is against the win condition ? (unless you hammer to end the day quickly)- BlueTrin
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In post 601, Frozen Angel wrote:isn't it obvious that I don't give a shit about my town win condition if I'm really the one who is getting lynched?
yeah its against my win condition. report me after the game. I dare you.
I don't care about whether you played against your win condition, I want to understand Lowell post.- BlueTrin
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I don't like Anti Hero but I think he is town or he is a very aggressive scum (probably the former).
In post 327, Antihero wrote:314 is a scumpost, by the way
I am not as experienced as you do, can tell me why this is a scum post ?
Is it because he is voting FA for the policy lynch mostly ?
In post 606, Postie wrote:All the lurking this game is super annoying. GuyFawkes, Dierfire, Creature, and Lowell in particular all need to get their butts in here. If anyone is lurking because they have a power-role - don't. If you aren't a/the vig, then worst case scenario you get shot by a/the vig.
I found this extremely frustrating as well, how can you read someone who is not posting ?
I guess the problem is that Creature seems to be the lynch for D1. So some people will be waiting for D1 to finish ?
One problem I have with Creature is that he didn't info dump although he posted that he had to recount all the posts to know if he was lynched. Why would you not post all you have if you are about to be lynched ? Although I have seen people just quit quietly when being lynched as town so not sure about this either.- BlueTrin
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In post 626, Lowell wrote:The way I read it lovely started bitching as soon as the "lynch" was achieved, blaming ppl for playing against wincon. How could he do this unless he knew the lynchee was town? Seems obvious, what am I missing?
Even if she was scum it would be against your own wincon to get lynched in this manner, isn't it ?- BlueTrin
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I did a bit of digging to try to understand.
I am not convinced by Creature's reaction and I don't believe he miscounted. But even if he didn't it does not mean that he is scum as town can use this as well to avoid being lynched. However his reaction, when he joins the next wagon seems a bit opportunistic.
In post 426, Creature wrote:In post 416, chilledtea wrote:Is creature really hammered or what?
Yes.
If your intention was use me as a mislynch bait, congratulations!
In post 427, Creature wrote:Okay, re-counting the votes, but I was sure I was hammered.
In post 432, Creature wrote:Don't quickhammer or you're confirmed as the D2 lynch.
In post 465, Creature wrote:In post 415, Creature wrote:Hope you got a good explanation.
VOTE: lovelygiant
This post from Postie makes a lot of sense:
In post 428, Postie wrote:Honestly I find the speed at which this wagon took off slightly concerning. I've said that before in other games where the wagon was on scum but I still don't like it.
This is Lovely's post about his wincon.
In post 645, lovelygiant wrote:In post 626, Lowell wrote:In post 602, BlueTrin wrote:In post 601, Frozen Angel wrote:isn't it obvious that I don't give a shit about my town win condition if I'm really the one who is getting lynched?
yeah its against my win condition. report me after the game. I dare you.
I don't care about whether you played against your win condition, I want to understand Lowell post.
The way I read it lovely started bitching as soon as the "lynch" was achieved, blaming ppl for playing against wincon. How could he do this unless he knew the lynchee was town? Seems obvious, what am I missing?
I made the wincon comments toward FA. I don't know for a fact that they're town, but they are uncountered Macho Tracker, so that's the assumption I am/was operating under. And you go on to townread them in your next post, so what's your point here? I think they're pretty obvious town right now, and the wagon on them is a waste of time that's only been further supporting their innocence. Pretty weak thing to condemn me for.
Lovely is referring to this post:
In post 372, Frozen Angel wrote:I claim : I'm town Tracker
I can't be healed sinsce I'm Macho
Please kill me tonight
So basically Lowell is saying that Lovely should not have assumed that FA was town and maybe not believed FA in the post above.
Posting this in case someone is having a hard time to follow everything here like myself.- BlueTrin
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In post 657, Frozen Angel wrote:well I was kind of sure I made a very good act , I unvoted right before the possible L1 vote and voted like a hammer. It was really hard to follow up the votes like that (in that speed)
I can't do this now, but I will go through again and check the times.
Pistachi0n ISO is bare:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p7721295
This guy has posted a grand total of 19 times ...
By the way, Pistachon, about this comment.
In post 536, pistachi0n wrote:I think the whole thing with FA was likely a scum gambit. It's out of character, she's been very composed in every game I've played with her.
Postie is a sheep.
The Creature wagon was terrible.
VOTE: Frozen Angel
I have read a game from FA where she had an argument with Pisskop, but Pisskop has strange manners so maybe your argument stands.
I will keep a vote on Creature, because I am not sold on the Lovely Giant wagon.
What I didn't like in Creature ISO:
- No info dump when 'hammered', but claim he believe he was hammered
- He changed his vote opportunistically on FA because she mentioned a policy lynch on Gale (I have no opinion on the policy lynch itself, just that Creature was opportunistic
- His defense when he was voted by ChilledTea was immediately that there would be no associative flips ? (we are in D1)
Below is a post from Creature to illustrate the points above, this was his reaction at L-3 I think ? (Chilledtea, Postie, AntiHero, GWS)
This is very defensive for someone who is only at L-3 ? Although the wagon happens a bit fast without resistance.
In post 314, Creature wrote:In post 249, chilledtea wrote:In post 246, Dierfire wrote:I think that chilledtea is more likely to be Town. His 158 seems like a naturally evolving thought process (not scripted).
I like BlueTrin for Town as already mentioned. Therefore, if I were to vote for someone on the chilledtea wagon, it would be Creature.
I do still think that Gale is Town. I do not have any good reads on those on his wagon, which is concerning and will be my next priority to fix.
Yes, I think I would be OK with a creature lynch personally. He wanted to share his thoughts sometime back but for some reason my lack of activity created a block for him from expressing himself. I thought it was his way of getting away by lurking a bit more.
VOTE: Creature
Him and pista are my scumspects at the moment.
Why are you earning from my lynch? Also, I didn't have much to say at the time.
In post 254, Antihero wrote:In post 82, Creature wrote:I don't see what's wrong with 57.
What's the best way to get out of RVS? Reading the votes.
What are we earning from reading these votes? Nothing.
Then how it helps? People will stop trolling and post their opinions.
And what are we earning from this? We're getting real tells.
/whiteknights gale
/does absolutely nothing with this opinion that gale is being unjustly attacked
Wait, how was I white knigthing Gale? It was my opinion, apparently nobody did anything with it until here.
Why not push it further then? It seems like you're just saying this to look like town, but at the same time keeping my wagon.
1. Already answered.
2. I was asking for votecount, since when was this a scum tell?
3. I was answering someone. Regarding chilledtea, I noticed he was lurking and asked him for opinions.
In post 266, Antihero wrote:since i know it's coming ("why?"): he goes out of his way to make a big deal to defend gale, but he doesn't go after any of gale's detractors. he keeps his vote on tea who NEVER voted gale w/ this implicit, asinine hypothesis that he's scum who crumbled under the pressure of 2 rvs votes.
there's no good, cohesive read here there's just this dangling, isolated observation floating out in the middle of nowhere.
I decided to wait a bit more before accusing Gale's detractors. Also, my vote on tea was since the RVS, I just didn't unvote until now.
In post 287, Frozen Angel wrote:In post 285, Postie wrote:I actually like the GWS wagon better. I think lynching town!Creature would be worse than lynching town!GWS, because I might actually be able to get a decent read on Creature in future, whereas GWS is just going to be annoying all game.
VOTE: Gale Wing Srock
ok w8 a minute ...
why the fact creature is doing nothing in game is going to give you a read? and why is that better in any manner than lynching an active player?
I think your saying policy lynching gale is defintly better than policy lynching creature in a very nicer way.
am I right?
Policy lynch? Is that your logic? I am not defending Gale, but I won't accept a policy lynch.
UNVOTE: chilledtea
VOTE: Frozen Angel
(coming with a case on Frozen Angel)
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In post 664, Frozen Angel wrote:In post 658, BlueTrin wrote:I have read a game from FA where she had an argument with Pisskop, but Pisskop has strange manners so maybe your argument stands.
He insulted my mother in the game. I got mad at a degree that I couldn't type insults anymore then some intel leaked and I got force replaced
and I was fucking town in that game
what are you even talking about?
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In post 668, Frozen Angel wrote:you might check Saga , and bunch of other games I got mad in
its kind of a routin
Oh no please, I don't want to, it was already quite long to go through these pages already
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In post 732, chilledtea wrote:In post 730, Postie wrote:Okay, I'm liking Creature/Not_Mafia for scum.
VOTE: Not_Mafia
Here's my lame attempt at counterwagoning. Hopefully someone on the pista wagon can join me on this before NM gets in here and hammers to save his own skin.
If this slot flips scum, I can at least throw GWS into my townpile because of 82. I don't think Creature would have been so quick to jump in and defend Gale if they were buddies.
Considering Not_Mafia just replaced in, there is 0 chance of him realistically getting lynched. The creature slot got a boost because of replacement.
Chilledtea, I don't understand why a replacement is a boost.
Being replaced does not mean the replacement starts with a clean slate.
If you are accused of murder, you cannot say, to defend yourself: "I didn't kill anyone this morning therefore I am innocent ?"
I am not saying that a replacement mean that the slot is scummy but you should not discard previous comments ? Or is there some meta on Mafia Scum that I am not aware about ?- BlueTrin
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In post 868, GoodNightMsGreen wrote:In post 773, BlueTrin wrote:In post 732, chilledtea wrote:In post 730, Postie wrote:Okay, I'm liking Creature/Not_Mafia for scum.
VOTE: Not_Mafia
Here's my lame attempt at counterwagoning. Hopefully someone on the pista wagon can join me on this before NM gets in here and hammers to save his own skin.
If this slot flips scum, I can at least throw GWS into my townpile because of 82. I don't think Creature would have been so quick to jump in and defend Gale if they were buddies.
Considering Not_Mafia just replaced in, there is 0 chance of him realistically getting lynched. The creature slot got a boost because of replacement.
Chilledtea, I don't understand why a replacement is a boost.
Being replaced does not mean the replacement starts with a clean slate.
If you are accused of murder, you cannot say, to defend yourself: "I didn't kill anyone this morning therefore I am innocent ?"
I am not saying that a replacement mean that the slot is scummy but you should not discard previous comments ? Or is there some meta on Mafia Scum that I am not aware about ?
VOTE: Not Mafia
sorry posted from Hydra account
VOTE: Not Mafia- BlueTrin
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In post 827, Gale Wing Srock wrote:Idk, why wouldn't scum kill me?
Anyways, Anti I think you hammered already.
I don't know if you are town but it feels like that instead of finding who is scummy, you analyse a post, find something scummy and then have a confirmation bias and interpret everything your target says as scummy.
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In post 887, Antihero wrote:yeah... scum apparently REALLY don't understand optimal play here w/ regards to the nightkills
In post 891, Antihero wrote:In post 889, Not_Mafia wrote:Maybe they were doc hunting, though I don't know why they would
why would that matter?
it's macho
Maybe they did this on purpose to confuse the town ? Or maybe scum thought that there could have been another PR checking for who would attack FA ?- BlueTrin
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In post 896, Antihero wrote:In post 894, BlueTrin wrote:Maybe they did this on purpose to confuse the town ? Or maybe scum thought that there could have been another PR checking for who would attack FA ?
that doesn't exist
and now i'm starting to think you would completely do these
Well if I was scum, I would pay a bit more attention to the role list. I just re-read it and I agree with you, unless there is an universal backup it does not make sense.- BlueTrin
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In post 895, chilledtea wrote:Apart from tracker we don't really have an investigative role according to the setup. Actually, that probably clears FA.
I wonder why scum didn't take out FA.
Now the only reasons are: either they want us to lynch FA, either FA lied, or they thought there would be an universal backup (the last one is a bit dumb from a scum point of view though, because it would be a guess)- BlueTrin
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Yay I though you would call me stupid again
I triple read the setup before to post the previous comment !- BlueTrin
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In post 941, Antihero wrote:i'm glad i got my head out of my ass in time to get at least ONE read right this game
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Gale, I am with AH, your death tunelling of me and someone else (I can't remember who it was) was annoying: not only you were extrapolating from random votes but you kept going and going for pages. Then whatever I would say, instead of interpreting, you would always justify all replies as scum answers so I literally stopped answering you to not fuel your eagerness (strangely this worked, after I ignored you, you focused even more on the other person)
Anyway, in the post game you ll see that I wasn't scum.- BlueTrin
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In post 903, Frozen Angel wrote:last scum is between lowell , bluetrin i guess
next time kill me faster for your own good
I missed that post, why am I a scum candidate ?- BlueTrin
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In post 655, BlueTrin wrote:In post 626, Lowell wrote:The way I read it lovely started bitching as soon as the "lynch" was achieved, blaming ppl for playing against wincon. How could he do this unless he knew the lynchee was town? Seems obvious, what am I missing?
Even if she was scum it would be against your own wincon to get lynched in this manner, isn't it ?
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