Mini 507: Big Brother Mafia - Game Over

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OMG FIRST CONFIRM!

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Hi VRK!

Mini 425 ftw!*erhm loss *

<3

To the rest of you

Minor <3 since I haven't played with you yet.

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Who wants to be my fuckbuddy

*not me*

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hi again.

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/me is excited

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Who wants to form an alliance with me?

we can has PEG+STD alliance?

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[dibs]i'm Drew from BB5.[/dibs]

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[undibs]drew from bb5[/undibs]


[dibs] Dick from BB8 [/dibs]


he's a metal head like myself.

WOOT ROCKIES!!!!!

Who told you the Rox are my favorite team.

*since '98* <3

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ryan and ckillor


*totally random*

*shrug*

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STILL RANDOM

NOMINATE: RYAN, CKILLOR

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nominate pickmegenius

(for asking it in his name) and

Vel-Rahn

(because I know some people who go to VT)

omfg you're like the 4000th person to misread my name.



<3

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Change your name

someone stole pickmegenius a few months after i got here.


I think it's a Jathan alt, but that's neither here nor there, they're still whoring my name out.

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Obviously we have some non posters on this list. I'm going to Wrigley Field this weekend so I'll be gone. I'm going to repost my final answer (thank you Regis) on my two nominees later this afternoon.

go D-Backs

go Rockies

I disagree to an extent of voting out lurkers.

I wouldn't mind one lurker, and somebody else as much.

Because what information would we get if the two lurker noms didn post, what new information have we gotten? None, I'd just rather avoid that scenario.

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Obviously we have some non posters on this list. I'm going to Wrigley Field this weekend so I'll be gone. I'm going to repost my final answer (thank you Regis) on my two nominees later this afternoon.

go D-Backs

go Rockies

I disagree to an extent of voting out lurkers.

I wouldn't mind one lurker, and somebody else as much.

Because what information would we get if the two lurker noms didn post, what new information have we gotten? None, I'd just rather avoid that scenario.

That's what I was talking about in my post 136

I reinforced that I agree with that.

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I think this will be interesting to see what happens.


Whoever doesn't convince me their town i'll be voting for.

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do nomination counts really matter that much? it doesnt matter as much as whose nominated and what they have to say

Well it could mean alot if we were able to put two scum up for nomination.

QFT

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I too would like to see some people *cough noms cough* try to maybe say... do something.... else it's gonna be totally fucking random... something that usually doesnt end well =/

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dragons are usually meant to be slain.

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^^
Its posts like this that make me even more sure of my nomination of him.

I don't dig this post.

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PMG: I have to slightly agree with DoS, it's obvious that Flare has been nominted (it says so in the thread title) for him to pop back on and act like he doesn't know what's going on is pretty silly don't ya think?

not really.


He could have seen that and been all: "oh shit I wonder what's been going on, I better let them know i'm alive and will post something later."

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PMG: I have to slightly agree with DoS, it's obvious that Flare has been nominted (it says so in the thread title) for him to pop back on and act like he doesn't know what's going on is pretty silly don't ya think?

also, how the fuck do you justify nominating someone on the chance they might make a post. It just seemed DoS was predicting future events, or would use anything possible to justify his noms...


*double post*

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I nominated him because he was lurking. Whether it would get him to post or not wasn't important. A lurker in a game that runs on a time limit is bad for the town.

Lurker town still=town. ALSO!

EBWODP: Also he had picked up a prod already and showed up to say that he basically had no idea what was going on, and went back to lurking. What was to stop him from doing that through the whole game?

also, how the fuck do you justify nominating someone on the chance they might make a post.

It just seemed DoS was predicting future events

, or would use anything possible to justify his noms...

HOLY FUCKING SHIT I can't believe I was right!!!!

This is totally news to me pause NOT!

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I agree with Vel that what Pickem is doing isn't scummy actually. I think him and I are miscomunicating, and I'd like to figure out what I'm missing that he is saying.

I'm saying you nominated Flare because of lurking (which you've said) but that you nom'd him basically on the premisis that you thought he would continue lurking. am i right?

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so basically... you umm...ftr... can justify

any

nom like that.

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I can't justify a nom of someone who isn't lurking like that no.

You could say I thought if I nominated X then X would post more or continue doing the same amount X has already been doing.


Where X =/= lurking(not posting), but whereas X could= posting alot, but nothing particularly relevant (actively lurking), or if X is posting a bunch, you could say, I nominated X because i've found the most scummy things from his posts.

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Vote: Flare

Skruffs appears to want to play(and help??), and it appears Flare doesn't...

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damn all these twists be making my head fucking explode

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I agree ryan's slip, is almost a little coincidental for him to not be nominated next week. I am very intrigued/befuddled with mneme wanting bith ryan, and DOS as noms next week. I would like to hear:


distad: convince me you're town.
skruffs: convince me you're town.

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Was (later) claimed to be based on lurking/inactiivty -- but Flare's inactivity was thorough enough to not be able to draw much on it, and there were others who were lurking more and more scummily.

I believe the reason Flare was nominated was not because he wasn't posting but because he was not contributing.

I NEVER claimed scum, stop twisting things around.

There is no reason for you not to know that a floater in this game is a townie. I can understand not knowing what a floater is if your not familiar with BB, but it's obvious that it is a townie in the context of the game and there is no exuse for not knowing that since all of the role PMs are on the first page.

I understand that a floater is town, my question was and has been, WHY is it called a floater. Is nobody else reading my comments? Come on now.

floaters don't really do much gamewise. usually there are two power alliances in Big Brother that try and get each other out. floaters just kind of sit there and let it happen.

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DOS - The first HoH rarely makes it very far. In this case, it was a popularity contest.

Yea... but this isn't 100% like the gameshow. And there are three known "alliances" of 6, 3 and 3.

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Yea... but this isn't 100% like the gameshow. And there are three known "alliances" of 6, 3 and 3.

BZZZZT!

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Wrong! Floater is an alignment, NOT an alliance grouping!
If the floaters were aligned, we would know who each other is. We don't.
Apparently you don't realize this? Cuz ur skum?

dingdingding

BZZZT!

FLOATERS NEVER NOMINATE OTHER FLOATERS. HENCE IT'S LIKE AN ALLIANCE.

dingdingding

LIKE I SAID THIS ISN'T 100% LIKE THE ACTUAL SHOW.

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Confewsed
Are you saying that dos is scum? He nominated floater, at least.

no... i'm saying that this isn't like the actual game show.

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I'm happy with a

Evict: Skruffs

aswell.

To me both their defences where quite good though trabony didn't really do it for me. His play sucked. While unfair to skruffs, who did quite a good job, I think it is the correct play

Heavy FOS:

FaerieLord


I'll be back to vote later on tonight.

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I

vote: distad

Skruffs... so far has been in my mind atleast just a tad more helpful. I'm not sure what more I really can say. One of you is getting hosed =/ I'd be voting Faerie right now if I could, but I can't, so i'm going to presume Faerie and Skruffs don't share the same alignment. I do not know this, and this might not make sense when I wake up in the morning, but for now it just does.

*sigh*

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FOS: ryan

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I def think FaerieLord needs to be nom'd.

Vote: FaerieLord

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@Pickem. May I ask why me, not ryan or kscope?

ryan-there was a misunderstanding

kscope-..... you basically fucking followed him, and agreed with him, and said exactly the same thing he said. So you saying kscope shouold be nommed is kind of like saying you want to nom yourself...

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FINE THEN!

NOMINATE: FAERIELORD

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[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]Which could have resulted also in a townie lynch.

The only thing it might prove is that chaos and skruffs are buddy's, but nothing more then that, really

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would the bolded statement not be fucking ideal?

that's like best case scenario.

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[quote="Vel-Rahn Koon"][quote="pickemgenius"][quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]Which could have resulted also in a townie lynch.

The only thing it might prove is that chaos and skruffs are buddy's, but nothing more then that, really

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would the bolded statement not be fucking ideal?

that's like best case scenario.[/quote]

Sure that would be the best case scenario, but that's not really "proof" is it. It would definitely

suggest

that they may be buddies, as scope pointed out with the qualifier might, but it's not going to be definite. Let's not jump to anything too soon.[/quote]


The word might is in the bolded statement. so yes.

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Chaos: Didn't you also nominate trabony/Skruffs on Day 1?

That's half right. I nominated trabony. Afterwards, Skruffs replaced in and I found him less suspicious than trabony. You, however, have said Skruffs is one of the most scummiest people in the game, but I never really saw any reasons by you for that claim.

i'm gonna go out on a limb and call BS.

skruffs=trabony.

if you thought trabony was scummy, just because skruffs replaced in doesnt erase trabonys scumminess.

NOMINATE: CHAOSOMEGA

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Pickem:
I like how you are playing this game, but the post you made just above mine... confuses me. (BTW I dropped out of Jathan's BB game. I didn't like it.) Why would you attack CHaos for changing his opinion of a player after they have been replaced? That is like saying that you can't change your mind abuot someone after you've FOSsed them. Or something along those lines.

well you see... i'm saying basically that if you find X to be scummy and nominate them. then just because Y replaces X, and looks pretty good doesn't mean you should totally forget X's actions.

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Pickem:
I like how you are playing this game, but the post you made just above mine... confuses me. (BTW I dropped out of Jathan's BB game. I didn't like it.) Why would you attack CHaos for changing his opinion of a player after they have been replaced? That is like saying that you can't change your mind abuot someone after you've FOSsed them. Or something along those lines.

well you see... i'm saying basically that if you find X to be scummy and nominate them. then just because Y replaces X, and looks pretty good doesn't mean you should totally forget X's actions.

EBWOP: The nominate is being used as the terms of our voting before the actual nominations are chosen.

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Ryan, pickem, Faerie, ksc0pe:
Okay - the four of you have stated prettty strongly that the person I replaced was scummy in some how, but the only quote I have seen is from Faerie. The reasons were that he did not understand the rules of the game, that he was a fence sitter, and that he had crappy reasons for nominating Ryan.

i haven't said who you replaced was scummy.

choas did and then voted to evict distad.

that is my problem.

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Everyone else seems okay with his vote

erhem.... i'm not... not because he hammered either. I think i've already explained why I want him nom'd, and the below post is just reinforcing my thoughts even more.

Un-nominate: FaerieLord
Nominate: mneme

I still think FaerieLord is suspicious,

but mneme's post nominating me was nothing more than him trying to get himself off the chopping block by nominating me for not very good reasons.

Also, it doesn't seem like I have the support in regards to FaerieLord, so I will drop my nomination for now, but you are my third choice for scum.

@Bold- die scum die plz. That is so fucking hypocritical it's not even funny. It makes my ears bleed. He needs to get evicted.

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LEAVING IN AN HOUR (GOTTA PACK ETC...)


WILL BE IN DENVER FOR WS.

DON'T EXPECT POSTING ANYMORE TODAY, TOMORROW, OR SUNDAY.

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Pickem -
If it's hypocritical, than it is scummy, right?
Why would you like to see chaos evicted thsi round instead of, say, Ryan?
And why are you giving mneme a pass?

I am not defending CHaos, but here is his reason:


I started to like PIckem, but I'm beginning to falter now, but I also realize he's generally a brash player and may just be stirring things up (which is good)

hypocritical in most circumstances is scummy. I can very well see somebody who is town do what he did, but it benefits scum moreso (my opinion.)


yes, at some point in the game i actually start to do stuff, and go after people. it happens.

I don't think i'm really giving mneme a free pass. I feel CO's reaction warranted more attention. Did I look at mneme's post and wonder about it... yes... did I want to see reaction from CO... in a way... was it what I expected CO would do? no.

I'll comment on the current noms later.

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It may be a good idea for all of us, in the interim, to discuss potential nominees for tomorrow.

no.

i disapprove of the two nomsalot. i haven't seen nearly enough from either of them, to be sure one of them is scum, and I find it totally absurd to say that anyone has.

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Question :
About Ryan (not to ryan but everyone else)
Is it reasonable to think that Ryan did not claim 'non-floater' week one? Does anyone disagree with that?

I really don't think he claimed non floater week one.

which is basically why I hate these damn noms.

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ryan's play seems more consistent with ryan-town play that I have seen before. *shrug*

i'm unsure of mneme, and i'm more confident in believing my ryan-town read then mneme-none read.

Vote: mneme

still totally despise both noms.

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yay, my read on Ryan sucks balls woo!

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Oh yeah... CO+Faerie need more nominated.

NOMINATE: CO+FAERIE

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I'm unsure on CO. OTOH, he did the "pile onto the scum after he's dead" thing that's oh, so suspicious. OTOH, unless we think ryan ran a bus straight at him, he's probably not scum with ryan. Though that last isn't that unlikely; need to reread. Finally, there's the general scumishness/newbishness of being the last to vote twice in a row.

And then there is the chance that CO is on the "opposite" scum team as ryan.

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Pickem- you dropped mneme from your list of suspicious players. Why? You voted for him.

I wasn't happy with either of the noms yesterday.
My vote for mneme was basically me voting that my read on ryan would be correct.
I never really gave any reasons for voting mneme, as I was never actually suspicous of him to start out.

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Yea... but this isn't 100% like the gameshow. And there are three known "alliances" of 6, 3 and 3.

BZZZZT!

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Wrong! Floater is an alignment, NOT an alliance grouping!
If the floaters were aligned, we would know who each other is. We don't.
Apparently you don't realize this? Cuz ur skum?

dingdingding

BZZZT!

FLOATERS NEVER NOMINATE OTHER FLOATERS. HENCE IT'S LIKE AN ALLIANCE.

dingdingding

LIKE I SAID THIS ISN'T 100% LIKE THE ACTUAL SHOW.

Sorry, had to rehash this

Also, unlike me and distad, who you asked both of us to convince you are town, you kind of formed your own conclusion about ryan and mneme and voted mneme - you didn't ask mneme to convince you she is town. Or ryan, for that matter, even though that's how you said you were intending to play.

I thought had a read on ryan. mneme I really didn't. If i have a town read, and an unknown read i'm voting the unknown 100% of the time.

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Nominate: mneme & pickemgenius

mneme: same reasons has yesterday

pickemgenius: Defended ryan yesterday saying,

I really don't think he claimed non floater week one.

and voted for the other nominee but on Day 1 he said

I agree ryan's slip, is

almost

a little coincidental for him to not be nominated next week.

read what happened after that. I reread the context of it, then he explained what he meant by it, then I answered him. Also... almost.

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mega already happened post!

I'm happy with a

Evict: Skruffs

aswell.

To me both their defences where quite good though trabony didn't really do it for me. His play sucked. While unfair to skruffs, who did quite a good job, I think it is the correct play

Heavy FOS:

FaerieLord


I'll be back to vote later on tonight.

@Pickem. May I ask why me, not ryan or kscope?

kscope-..... you basically fucking followed him, and agreed with him, and said exactly the same thing he said. So you saying kscope shouold be nommed is kind of like saying you want to nom yourself...

Chaos: Didn't you also nominate trabony/Skruffs on Day 1?

That's half right. I nominated trabony. Afterwards, Skruffs replaced in and I found him less suspicious than trabony. You, however, have said Skruffs is one of the most scummiest people in the game, but I never really saw any reasons by you for that claim.

i'm gonna go out on a limb and call BS.

skruffs=trabony.

if you thought trabony was scummy, just because skruffs replaced in doesnt erase trabonys scumminess.

NOMINATE: CHAOSOMEGA

Ryan, pickem, Faerie, ksc0pe:
Okay - the four of you have stated prettty strongly that the person I replaced was scummy in some how, but the only quote I have seen is from Faerie. The reasons were that he did not understand the rules of the game, that he was a fence sitter, and that he had crappy reasons for nominating Ryan.

i haven't said who you replaced was scummy.

choas did and then voted to evict distad.

that is my problem.

Everyone else seems okay with his vote

erhem.... i'm not... not because he hammered either. I think i've already explained why I want him nom'd, and the below post is just reinforcing my thoughts even more.

Un-nominate: FaerieLord
Nominate: mneme

I still think FaerieLord is suspicious,

but mneme's post nominating me was nothing more than him trying to get himself off the chopping block by nominating me for not very good reasons.

Also, it doesn't seem like I have the support in regards to FaerieLord, so I will drop my nomination for now, but you are my third choice for scum.

@Bold- die scum die plz. That is so fucking hypocritical it's not even funny. It makes my ears bleed. He needs to get evicted.

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i haven't much particularly noteworthy about vrk.

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I'm actively scum-hunting. I've told you that I'm 'town'. That can only go so far, though. If the defense only required that, no one would ever get lynched in this game.

Guys, I've really got nothing to help you out. I'm town is my best defense for why I shouldn't be lynched.

It seemed obvious to me that Ryan got caught out, reading through. I also think VKR has slipped up in a similar way. We've caught one scumbag through a similar slip - it's not guaranteed to work again, but reading it, I very much like the odds.

So it's like those two posts, similiar yet different. hmm..

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[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]Is there a thought behind that post, pickem?
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erhem. that was about elmo.
i thought that was pretty obvious.

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i haven't much particularly noteworthy about vrk.

I don't recall VRK ever using a sympathy card in the last game I played with him (425-town) something in that game made him bleedingly town, and I was the only one to defending him, this game I haven't gotten that same feeling.

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I'm still not feeling FL, but there is no real evidence against him.

Yeah. I'm not saying I think VRK is town, but I really don't get the FL nomination right now. I mean, look at the vote, it's 6 - 0 against by my count. Maybe that's just because VRK looks so bad,

but I get the feeling that no-one seems to seriously think FL is scum.

I think VRK would have been lynched regardless of the other candidate, but I also think we might have got more out of selecting VRK and someone else.

erhem I do, and I find it odd that basically nobody mentions the sudden influx of

actual

posting going on by FL after he got nom'd.

And when he did try at posting something(before getting nom'd) kind of relevant, he re-itterated what was said previously already.

VOTE: FL

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I'm currently going to look over the game later tonight (barring shit happening) and stuff.

Obv obv FL+CO(elmo) I feel would be good, but i'm not really ruling out anybody.

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my internet went kaputt last night.

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Does DOS & Pug look weird to anyone else?

Still feeling a FL nom aswell.

i don't really have anything to say right now since neither nominiee has said much since they were nominated. i do think they were both good choices as nominees,

and im pretty confident that we will probably lynch a scum team member

also @bold- could ckillor+ryan+mneme be one three man team?

If I had to throw out guesses(which I will):

Bad guys one: ryan,mneme,ckillor(farside)
Bad guys two: CO(elmo), FL, Pug

Floaters: me, VRK, distad Skruffs, K-Scope, DOS

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see sig.

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mad apologies.


shit has been wicked lately.

i'm not entirely upset with the noms however.