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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:57 pm

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In post 147, Some Random Mafia Player wrote:
In post 146, 3dicerolling wrote:
In post 145, Some Random Mafia Player wrote:still waiting for dice to explain their bulge and spiff reads.


And you never answered why I need to justify these reads.


because your intentionally not giving info to the town that could be useful. The things you think someone is scum for may be things that everyone else completely missed. If you dont tell us your reasoning we might never realize that someone did something scummy because nobody would notice.


Not all reasoning is concrete this early. I may believe spiffeh is town because my gut is telling me he is town. If I state "Man guys spiffeh is so town, use your guts!", that wouldn't make much sense.

I use early reads to get the ball rolling, and help myself move forward finding scum from there.
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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:59 pm

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davesaz wrote:What about a straight day vig who thought he was scum fakeclaiming PGO to explain not getting NK'd?
Dead serious, I'll lynch a player claiming this.

3dice wrote:This leads me to believe the sk has at least one dayvig shot, and has bulletproof.
My thoughts are similar.

Some Random Mafia Player wrote:ranger, explain your reads, and all that on page 3?
How about...no.

pisskop wrote:FTR, Im sticking to the mafia dayvig unless its explicitly blacklisted.
Pretty sure that's what the thread stated, though? It seemed the intent there was to prevent mafia (day)vigs from ever existing in a Normal game again.

I can see it as a day-SK (not day-vig-SK, day-SK as in a SK that kills only during the day); that seems to make sense to me.
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:02 pm

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pisskop wrote:We have zero evidence for an SK, and any talk about a second faction before we have proof will be treated as a potential slip
Hello, townslip!

Also, not much has changed in my reads.

{3dice, RadiantCowbells, pisskop}
{Almost50, TheBuldge}
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:03 pm

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...Yes that was totally me saying that 3dice and pisskop are as conftown as the dead-town-IC and not in any way a copy-paste error.

Totally.
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:14 pm

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Some Random Mafia Player wrote:ranger, explain your reads, and all that on page 3?
How about...no.

So you have no reason for those reads, just put them there randomly?
Some Random Mafia Player wrote:
In post 146, 3dicerolling wrote:
In post 145, Some Random Mafia Player wrote:still waiting for dice to explain their bulge and spiff reads.


And you never answered why I need to justify these reads.


because your intentionally not giving info to the town that could be useful. The things you think someone is scum for may be things that everyone else completely missed. If you dont tell us your reasoning we might never realize that someone did something scummy because nobody would notice.


Same question I gave to him goes to you Ranger.
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:18 pm

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[/quote]How about...no.[/quote]

Some Random Mafia Player wrote:
In post 146, 3dicerolling wrote:
In post 145, Some Random Mafia Player wrote:still waiting for dice to explain their bulge and spiff reads.


And you never answered why I need to justify these reads.


because your intentionally not giving info to the town that could be useful. The things you think someone is scum for may be things that everyone else completely missed. If you dont tell us your reasoning we might never realize that someone did something scummy because nobody would notice.


Same response goes to you ranger, correcting my last post since I fucked it up (if this doesent work im gonna rage)
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:19 pm

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In post 153, Ranger wrote:Yes that was totally me saying that 3dice and pisskop are as conftown as the dead-town-IC


I have a sinking feeling I'll regret this, but I'll comply for now. Just remember Smithereens/Firebringer :wink:

UNVOTE: 3dice
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:22 pm

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Some Random Mafia Player wrote:So you have no reason for those reads, just put them there randomly?
Never said that!
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:24 pm

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In post 157, Ranger wrote:
Some Random Mafia Player wrote:So you have no reason for those reads, just put them there randomly?
Never said that!


then you must have reason for them, why do you not want to put reasoning for them?
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:27 pm

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DAY 1. VOTECOUNT 06.

seven. call your son's diabetes diagnosis a godsend like this

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(0)
Ranger

»
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Xtoxm
— Spiffeh, pisskop, droog
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Some Random Mafia Player

»
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droog
— KTthecreeper, davesaz
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The Bulge

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KTthecreeper

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Almost50
— 3dicerolling, GuiltyLion
(0)
davesaz

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3dicerolling

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pisskop
— The Bulge, Xtoxm
»
(1)
GuiltyLion
— Ranger
(0)
Spiffeh


(2)
NOT VOTING
— Some Random Mafia Player, Almost50

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Deadline is in
(expired on 2016-01-24 13:00:00)
(Sun Jan 24 @ 1:30:00 PM EST).



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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:32 pm

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VOTE: Mochaman

start talking imo or the lynch stays
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:36 pm

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Some Random Mafia Player wrote:why do you not want to put reasoning for them?
Because I am a troll. ;)
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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:39 pm

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In post 161, Ranger wrote:
Some Random Mafia Player wrote:why do you not want to put reasoning for them?
Because I am a troll. ;)


RIP troll nuuuu

but on a serious note, got any real reasoning?
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:40 pm

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In post 160, Some Random Mafia Player wrote:VOTE: Mochaman

start talking imo or the lynch stays


ERm, I don't know how to put this to you, mate.. but I'm afraid Mocha's no longer with us. He has been replaced by droog.
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:43 pm

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In post 163, Almost50 wrote:
In post 160, Some Random Mafia Player wrote:VOTE: Mochaman

start talking imo or the lynch stays


ERm, I don't know how to put this to you, mate.. but I'm afraid Mocha's no longer with us. He has been replaced by droog.


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UNVOTE: Mochaman

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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:47 pm

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VOTE: Xtoxm

actually IN THE GAME, and only 3 posts

start talking m8.
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:48 pm

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Hmm, the deadline is 11:30 my time Sunday. The noon time was a random guess at the time getting home from camping, we break camp much earlier than that. So I'll find a place to get off the road as soon as we get back into cellphone range, that will have my vote in play if needed before deadline.

SRMP seems town though it's pretty weak. I like the motivation of trying to get people to talk and questioning reads. Clearly an experienced player, and wasn't swayed by the quasi-meta argument.
Almost50 and Ranger match what I've seen of them quite recently. Droog also matches from much older games. Granted I haven't experienced their scum games in person, so I can't say it is definitive, but they seem town (also weak).
UNVOTE: droog

It doesn't make me feel good at all to not have a scumread offhand. I'm gonna need to reread.
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:57 pm

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if you think Smrp is putting in earnest effort then yes he is townish
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:26 pm

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GuiltyLion posts are nothing too memorable, but not objectively bad. Still null

KTthecreeper gets some scum points for pushing on the droog slot for replacing out. Weak scum.

TheBulge asked a decent question, holding pattern till the answer / followup. Weak town but very eligible for a downgrade.

Spiffeh didn't engage at all which is troubling. I'm gonna call the active prod dodging scummy and see what happens.

VOTE: Spiffeh

Pedit: mustn't forget pisskop. We disagree on the setup thoughts, but I'd suspect him if we agreed. Town for now.
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:46 pm

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Has anyone seen 3dicerolling as scum? That reaction to Almost50's post is a lot different than anything I noticed in my most recent game with 3dice where he was town.
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:50 pm

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PROD.


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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:15 pm

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In post 45, KTthecreeper wrote:
In post 44, The Bulge wrote:
In post 41, KTthecreeper wrote:VOTE: droog A slot that wanted out hmmmm probably someone not wanting to be scum

do you believe it is more likely that a player enjoys being town over scum than the opposite?



I think most people like being town better then scum but I guess we will never know since he opted out ;-;

ahh so close to a satisfactory answer but the waffle at the end makes you scum ;-;

VOTE: KT
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:16 pm

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almost50 cut the strawman arguments and the weird gambit shit idk what you're doing man

droog is so town it hurts, also loving pisskop's lately

guiltylion still pinging me something fierce but I don't have nearly enough to go on. but definitely in hypothetical investigation-worthy range imo
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:57 pm

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PROD.


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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:02 pm

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