⭐ Blitz 20 — How To Be Normal [Game Over]

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VOTE: Guiltylion

Pisskop is prob town.

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VOTE: Guiltylion

Pisskop is prob town.

~goodposting~

Have you not figured out pisskop is town yet? That disappointing.

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I forgot that 1 post was enough to figure out that PK is town.

It usually takes three, but pisskop is bringing his A game.

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If you're claiming mason with him just claim outright.

I'm not pro enough at mafia to fakeclaim mason.

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Oh nice, spiff is probably town.

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The bulge might be scum

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Are you implying I'm wrong?

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Are you implying I'm wrong?

No, I'm questioning the fact that you'd town read me so easily after only one post.

I do that every game bro.

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I think I have reached the correct conclusion here.

So we have 3 factions in this game. Mafia is unable to shoot at RC because mafia dayvig isn't normal.

That leaves town and sk. RC claimed PGO, so if you consider that, a town player has absolutely no reason to vig RC. If they do, they not only risk hitting town, but they risk getting themselves killed.

That leaves only sk. What I think about the sk is this: If they have bulletproof, then it makes sense that they might take the shot at RC, since it would mean no harm to them. RC is also a strong player in general.

This leads me to believe the sk has at least one dayvig shot, and has bulletproof.

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VOTE: Almost50

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Why are you assuming that I'm voting you because of that post?

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I don't need a reason to vote for someone.

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You set up your post with the intent of getting someone to jump on.

The way you set it up was to strawman anyone who voted you afterwards, regardless of what reasons they gave. That is evident by the fact that you did it even though I provided no reason at all.

You aren't trying to figure out my alignment, you are trying to strawman me, and it's pretty scummy.

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I know its page 3, but if your going to say this can you at least tell us why you have these reads on them?

Why'd you single out 3dice here when Ranger is giving a full blown unexplained readslist two posts above you?

Xtoxm wagon is not a bad wagon but I like my vanity vote as it stands

I honestly missed that tbh

ranger, explain your reads, and all that on page 3?

Why do you believe it's necessary that ranger or I explain our reads at this point in the game?

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Why not?

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pisskop there's explicitly an SK in the setup

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still waiting for dice to explain their bulge and spiff reads.

And you never answered why I need to justify these reads.

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still waiting for dice to explain their bulge and spiff reads.

And you never answered why I need to justify these reads.

because your intentionally not giving info to the town that could be useful. The things you think someone is scum for may be things that everyone else completely missed. If you dont tell us your reasoning we might never realize that someone did something scummy because nobody would notice.

Not all reasoning is concrete this early. I may believe spiffeh is town because my gut is telling me he is town. If I state "Man guys spiffeh is so town, use your guts!", that wouldn't make much sense.

I use early reads to get the ball rolling, and help myself move forward finding scum from there.

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All aboard the Xtox-Box Plox

Do you not like his latest post?

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I was meh on it. Genuine-sounding apologetic-things are not exactly game content nor has he made a move to become townread.

It amounts to a variety of AtE without adding anything to the gamestate.

I do like the openness of it though.

It doesn't have to be 100% solid to look town imo.

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Yeah, Ranger is scum in this game.

Town seems pretty fucked already because there's no willingness to work together.

Why are you just talking about this? Why aren't you actively trying to push ranger or trying to get us to work together?

It's funny because I'm town

if Ranger is town I can't wait to see her reaction post game.

This is extremely odd. You are talking about post game and ranger being wrong....when there is one vote on you.

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Meh, SMRP and GL are both slight town based on their interactions. They both seem pretty genuine.

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How do you feel about Almost50, pisskop?

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meh. I feel like he would know how to fake scumhubnting and I wonder if it isnt a show but I have nothing on him rn

Hm okay. I'll sheep you on xtomx if he keeps playing like this, but I got town vibes from his big post.

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@xtomx - I reading ranger as town. Nothing I'm seeing is all that different from town ranger, and she's been playing similar to me this game.

If it comes down to needing you for a lynch, then I will do it, but at this point, I would rather not lynch you today. I get somewhat of where pisskop is coming from, but I'm also getting townvibes from your posts. I also incorrectly read you last time we played together, so I'm trying to keep all this into account.

That being said, I would much prefer and almost50 lynch.

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I guess actually the best question for you Almost is why on earth do you think 3dr is scum

Because his reaction to my joke-post was most unnatural and extremely exaggerated. He then denied his vote on me was bc of it, but when asked to give an alternative reason he declined. It's one thing to post reads w/o reasoning, and totally another thing to cast a vote for no reason even when you get asked for one by your vote target.

All in all he didn't act in anyway I would consider natural, and the only reason I'm not pushing too hard on him is bc I don't think we will get him lynched today based on the fact not many others share my view, so I'm better off voting on someone we all agree on, in which case I need to be persuaded.

just so you know, he did end up posting reasoning to lynching you that you even responded to, so I see no reason for you to say he gave none when you know he did.

Why are you choosing to defend me rather than attack his play? Or why are you not choosing to defend others as well?

This kind of pings WKing.

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I guess actually the best question for you Almost is why on earth do you think 3dr is scum

Because his reaction to my joke-post was most unnatural and extremely exaggerated. He then denied his vote on me was bc of it, but when asked to give an alternative reason he declined. It's one thing to post reads w/o reasoning, and totally another thing to cast a vote for no reason even when you get asked for one by your vote target.

All in all he didn't act in anyway I would consider natural, and the only reason I'm not pushing too hard on him is bc I don't think we will get him lynched today based on the fact not many others share my view, so I'm better off voting on someone we all agree on, in which case I need to be persuaded.

just so you know, he did end up posting reasoning to lynching you that you even responded to, so I see no reason for you to say he gave none when you know he did.

Why are you choosing to defend me rather than attack his play? Or why are you not choosing to defend others as well?

This kind of pings WKing.

Im not defending you, im pointing out that a townread of theirs made the same mistake you did.

I see no resemblance of comparison in that post.

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Read through real quick

Anybody else like Dave for the SK?

I like almost50 and the some random guy for scum

Dave has been meh. Some stuff he said has been okay, but his vote on spiffeh was pretty bad.

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You set up your post with the intent of getting someone to jump on.

The way you set it up was to strawman anyone who voted you afterwards, regardless of what reasons they gave. That is evident by the fact that you did it even though I provided no reason at all.

You aren't trying to figure out my alignment, you are trying to strawman me, and it's pretty scummy.

@ank - this is for almost 50

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There is more, but that was my initial reason for voting him.

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There is more, but that was my initial reason for voting him.

So, let me get this straight. You saw my post as an attempt to strawman

anyone

who veted me afterwards, yet you -of all people- decided to bit and

not mention your reason

only to use this backwards reasoning after I called you out for it? Oh, pleeeeease.

How come none of the other two voted me for it? How come everybody else saw the obvious joke (that was hidden inside a spoiler to begin with).

You know what? I don't know why Ranger would think town of you, but I say if there's one confirmed scum in this game it has to be you. Town don't need to lie about their motives to vote and/or create loops within loops to try and justify their actions.

I don't care who you saw comparatively as a scum read. I placed my vote down because it looked like an attempt to backlash at anyone who voted you because of that post, and hey look, as soon as I vote you, you immediately vote back.

Even now, you are strawmanning what I did to appeal to the new person who replaced in.

Let them decide for themselves whether they like the logic or not.

Also, hi ank.

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I don't care who you saw comparatively as a scum read. I placed my vote down because it looked like an attempt to backlash at anyone who voted you because of that post, and hey look, as soon as I vote you, you immediately vote back.

Even now, you are strawmanning what I did to appeal to the new person who replaced in.

Let them decide for themselves whether they like the logic or not.

Also, hi ank.

why say hello after already acknowledging someone's presence in the game?

I was on phone at first, and felt like saying hi

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nope, youve violated a social norm. Youre scum

Why are you so good pisskop?

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I'm sort of here

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vote: dave

Aww, and just when events (in particular lack of 2nd kill) have me believing that you're probably town.

Are you saying that he's not town because of this vote?

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Don't really get the nos hype.

I'm also kind of deflated I was wrong about almost50 :/

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eww. ma feels.

i mean yay im grossly underestimated again

I literally have no clue what this means.

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SETUP.

This is a Normal Game containing 10

Town

, 2

Mafia

, and

1 Serial Killer.

This game has been approved for normalcy and balance by AngryPidgeon, Ether, and fferyllt.

@Pisskop

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You aren't even voting him

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If you want me to sheep you, at least do it right :p

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3d, are you sure youre town?

Unless I misread my role pm. Lemme check

Yup, still town.

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Ank, I'd like to see deeper into your reads because I feel like you've been kind of selective in what you talk about.

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I actually think this kill points more to nos being town because outright killing dave would be kind of ballsy as an SK

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Just got me wisdom teeth out.

Still recovering. Meh

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When my head is more clear, I'll look over this and decide where I want to vote

Although, nosferatu is definitely off the table for today.

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Meh, 21 hours may be enough for me to recover and re-read.

@pisskop - If you could elaborate on your xtomx and SRMP reads? This would also help me develop my read on you, so a solid answer would be fantastic.

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No Im good.

Im done here. Ive been asking all game for cases and Ive given my own before. Go be lazy on somebody elses time guiz kthnx.

ok, but you need reasoning on me lol, I made one post asking for reasoning and suddenly became your #1 scumread

Why are you so concerned with his scumread on you?

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Do you think that makes him more likely to be scum?

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Do you think that makes him more likely to be scum?

I dont know, but I def dont see why he would do that (then again, he has been doing a lot of useless things)

Have you ever played with pisskop before?

Although, nosferatu is definitely off the table for today.

whyyyyy

SRMP is probscum but Nos is obvscum

That's a great question for you. Why?

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Are you proposing he is mafia who knew that wasn't their kill, or sk that knew that wasn't their kill?

Or are you just proposing nos is non-town aligned in general.

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I'm sorry, I look over it tomorrow. I just can't really focus on logic right now :/

My gut is telling me he's town, and I don't think he would straight up dave as SK.

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@Ank - Are you scum/busy/disengaged? You don't seem to be throwing your weight around like in mana khemia.

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@Ank - Are you scum/busy/disengaged? You don't seem to be throwing your weight around like in mana khemia.

My activity is a direct reflection of my interest in the gamestate and has very little to no bearing on my alignment. I was much more active in Mana Khemia (and all of my hydra games I don't get bailed on) because having someone I know I work well with and know is the same alignment does huge work towards keeping me invested in the game.

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Do you understand why this can also be seen as smokescreen ank?

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Do you understand why this can also be seen as smokescreen ank?

I have no idea what you mean by this.

I'm saying that you could be genuinely town and genuinely apathetic, but now adays it seems like scum are using this more and more as an attempt to hide from being noticed.

I'm not saying this is what you are doing, but I'm saying with apathetic people this is always a possibility, and why I try to encourage players not to be apathetic.

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Do you understand why this can also be seen as smokescreen ank?

what's the point of this question?

I'm appealing to a player I know can be really good because I want to encourage them to engage if they are town.

And I'm going to work on figuring out who I want dead now. Sorry I'm late to the party.

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tbh I'm fine with lynching either SRMP or Nos, slightly prefer Nos. Bulge is a definite no go for me at this point in time

Why is the bulge a no-go?

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I will say that I don't really like SRMP right now and re-reading your case on nos, I agree more with what you're pointing out.

Although gut is telling me Nos is town somehow, I wouldn't mind lynching him.

Also, GL, if you could re-read ranger's last few posts, do you agree that scum SMRP points to scum ranger?

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It's just kind of weird. She's like "Maybe SRMP is scum" next post "Definitely a possibilty"

It just kind of seems like she was testing the water.

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Also, how do you feel about pisskop's continual denial of a SK being in this game?

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At first I thought it was genuine but the second time it was baffling. I don't see scum motivation in it so I've been just chalking it up to him not paying attention.

Part of me is also considering whether he was doing it to bait scum into pushing him for it

I was also considering him as sk trying to play it off, but I felt like it could be a bit too obvious?

idk, but I think my pain meds are kicking in

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Oh Please, as scum Id wipe the floor with this town.

I'm really not sure how to interpret this.

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You doubt bout my alignment seems quite new. Y.

English pls

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boooo

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fwiw, I think nos is likely sk if scum

So you think nos straight up shot dave?

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Y is that so hard? Did dave crumb doc before?

I don't know, did he?

I just don't see him outright shooting the person driving his lynch.

P:edit - @tom - Ranger has been rather absent. I was pushing around the idea of a SRMP and ranger scum team, but other than that, I'm rather null on her.

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3dice are you going to vote?

I'm sorry, I'm not all together right now.

I'm going to go with SRMP. Just some of the stuff he says is contradictory to me. He'll say he doesn't care about being voted, but then question almost every vote on him.

SomeRandomMafiaPlayer

If you think ranger is a better lynch, please elaborate why xtomx, and I'll try to work with you here the best I can.

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VOTE: SomeRandomMafiaPlayer

A prime example of how I'm not together right now.

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I can move my vote over if needed. I'd prefer SRMP atm.

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Okay so Pisskop just lied in general.

Good to know

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Okay so Pisskop just lied in general.

Good to know

meh? I dont lie?

You claimed bg. The setup Marquis posted had no bodyguard.