NY 191: Denmark Mafia - Endgame

[Frozen Angel]

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

Stop following me

Hey! that's my case against him!

VOTE: Elyse

[Frozen Angel]

FIRST

VOTE:FIRE

TALE THAT

Your wish is my command.
One day, Fro99er made a game. In the first post, Shiro voted Firebringer.
The end.

but its just the start ... what do you know about future?

[Frozen Angel]

FIRST

VOTE:FIRE

TALE THAT

Your wish is my command.
One day, Fro99er made a game. In the first post, Shiro voted Firebringer.
The end.

but its just the start ... what do you know about future?

That isn't the future. It's the past.

I'm just curious ... why you think its the end? :/

VOTE: Titus

When

isn't

she scum?

maybe when she isn't scum?

[Frozen Angel]

Slim chance I am a flavor miller.

vc

Scumclaim
VOTE: Fro99er

should I laugh?

[Frozen Angel]

voting mod is a kind of new ways to get out of RVS ?

[Frozen Angel]

Have to say, though, not a fan of town's flavor being yellow, of all colors.

its not yellow. Its kind of creamy ...

That's good to hear.

I'm well, and glad this game is finally starting. I've been craving a NY MS game for some reason.

and its already started ...

[Frozen Angel]

well nice ! finally somebody asked

MarioManiac deserve to be pushed. I think he voted for mod just to say "hey! I wasn't sirious back there when I said my vote is half sirious!" or something like that ... which I don't like.

you talk to much (well - I'll try sorting you out later)

Elyse was to fast to accept the case against Mario so I think we need to look an eye on her.

and I just don't like when people start the game with this sentence : "Hello ! I'm town! " - It get me a very bad feeling ...

Notsicence checked and didn't voted.

and I'm desperately waiting to see my L... Rc

[Frozen Angel]

you refers to Grib ^

[Frozen Angel]

@Grib why exactly shiro? we never played together , actually we did (but she replaced in the lylo - so its not counted ... )

pedit : hmmm , I'm happy with Elyse or Mario. we already have 2 votes on Mario , so I like my votes place for now

@Mario : half of your posts where serious . then a mod vote ... whats so flawed?

[Frozen Angel]

I just don't like when people start the game with this sentence : "Hello ! I'm town! " - It get me a very bad feeling ...

well hello to you too!

[Frozen Angel]

@Grib why exactly shiro? we never played together , actually we did (but she replaced in the lylo - so its not counted ... )

pedit : hmmm , I'm happy with Elyse or Mario. we already have 2 votes on Mario , so I like my votes place for now

@Mario : half of your posts where serious . then a mod vote ... whats so flawed?

I voted the mod because this is a game and I'm allowed to have fun.

then have fun

VOTE: MarioManiac4

[Frozen Angel]

well nice ! finally somebody asked

MarioManiac deserve to be pushed. I think he voted for mod just to say "hey! I wasn't sirious back there when I said my vote is half sirious!" or something like that ... which I don't like.

you talk to much (well - I'll try sorting you out later)

Elyse was to fast to accept the case against Mario so I think we need to look an eye on her.

and I just don't like when people start the game with this sentence : "Hello ! I'm town! " - It get me a very bad feeling ...

Notsicence checked and didn't voted.

and I'm desperately waiting to see my L... Rc

I don't like this post either.
Too many suspects for faulty reasons - reeks of scum trying to spread doubt.

Add this one to my current list.

my only *people who I want to pressure on* (not suspects - maybe a bit suspects) are Elyse - Mario

your unhappy becuase I said I don't like when people start the game with that sentence?

[Frozen Angel]

I'm not lynching Mario with elyse so I'm pretty happy that I'm putting pressure of someone who I'm scum reading currently

Elyse can w8 for now

[Frozen Angel]

NS is just someone who needs to be looked at.

and RC was my partner in the game your currently reading - we have a background!

I never stated I'm scum reading them , did I?! so why are you putting words in my mouth sir ?

[Frozen Angel]

your trying hard to make something out of my poor vocab don't you? I mean there was stuff going in game. then suddenly we saw a post from him and bye! I'm curiou to see his next move.

and RC! I'm just curious about him...


SO what are you really trying to achieve here?

[Frozen Angel]

and I'm going to sleep as its past midnight here ...

[Frozen Angel]

@Elyse well you just accepted the wagon and joined it without questioning or answering. that was a weird vote and that's why I'm suspecting you ...

@RC is here! lawyer?! hmm ok!

sorry honey but I must say
and this is just the way scum!RC played our last game (its not a full meta tell - becuase I just have 1 finished game with him and the rest are ongoing)

RC find scum for me or die ...

[Frozen Angel]

anything that might clarify MM from being mafia or not?

it seemed you just want a valid place to put your vote on and leave ...

[Frozen Angel]

I want to try JOAT someday, as it seems extremely powerful.

But in general I like to play as mafia - maybe a mafia PR

pedit : - Mario you always play scum like this?
-Mario why you think voting a mod can help us to get out of RVS

and so...

now you got better in pushing him. But I don't like to forget the fact you started it when his wagon got more serious.

[Frozen Angel]

We have lots of disappeared faces ...

[Frozen Angel]

I said you voted him after things got more serious? I said you started validating your vote after it got more serious. there is a huge difference here.

I never said you should ask similar questions. But you need to ask some questions in your way to validate your target specially when you voting someone serious in page 2

+ : I need to go to uni , bye!

[Frozen Angel]

It's not a secret firebringer is young and not the best, which still makes it a bad idea

Young?!! whats this all about.

I can't see your point. do you have a problem when people are voting "youngs" ?! :/

[Frozen Angel]

Out of the. three scum games I have had

here no one ever discusses plans like that, is that a large thing? Also that list of easy lynches is a weird thing to have made, imo.

:O is this a scum claim? or its about my English?

[Frozen Angel]

@Dwlee99 I can see more than three games overall. so why are you comparing this game with your three scum games?

@Heat If I'm not looking for scum ... are you looking for scum then? :/ By just sitting there and calling people noisy?

[Frozen Angel]

respect =/= like

Elyse shits me, doesn't mean she don't get shit done.

Where is that RVS vote tho?

I really don't like this post. Extremely stupid question .... not FB's usually test questions (he asked one in this game from me so you can go back and check <)

[Frozen Angel]

P.edit: yeah it looks like she's just making noise

Spoiler: noise

[Frozen Angel]

You'll have to call again, I was just leaving.

I'm, uh, not dressed properly.

hmm , ha?!

[Frozen Angel]

That makes sense now. thank you for explanation.

[Frozen Angel]

Uh, last time I was scum in a large I bussed both my partners then got the GS inno to lynch the cop inno over me in 3 way lylo.

Can I have a link to that game RC?

[Frozen Angel]

I do whatever I think is good to find scum. (even whatever you call noise). get out of here ...

[Frozen Angel]

Firebringer has changed his avatar from Toothless and that hurts me.

Toothless will be back, but right now. Its annie avatar month!

Annie month then ha?

[Frozen Angel]

FB can you share your reads so far?

[Frozen Angel]

Whats the definition of noise?

it don't include ^ post?

[Frozen Angel]

It seems Titus is trying to solve the game with her extraterrestrial abilities to read mines

So if I get it right FB is just messing around
RC thinks Titus is scum because she didn't vote him yet.
Titus believes RC and FB are town ...

Shiro can I ask you about these 3 behaviours ? (As I think you know them better)

[Frozen Angel]

It's not a secret firebringer is young and not the best, which still makes it a bad idea

Young?!! whats this all about.

I can't see your point. do you have a problem when people are voting "youngs" ?! :/

Replace with inexperienced, sorry.

oh, I don't think he is inexperienced at all ... he might be new in this site but I think he is a very old cs2 mafia player

[Frozen Angel]

FA, pls stop trying to push me.

I am le townerino capuccino from cincinno dongerino.

ok

I'm more concerned about titus way of reading people right now. and shiro can really be helpful.

[Frozen Angel]

... means she thinks they are town because of a feeling , without giving out data or valid information

[Frozen Angel]

I just wanted your opinion about it. I never said its scummy.

[Frozen Angel]

As for fire, it doesn't matter what he posts. My concern isn't reading people who're relatively easy to figure out.

can you say who are these people?

Fire , Dwel , ... ?

[Frozen Angel]

Elyse and I have

same thought process

,

she is probably town

.

And my 100% win rate on this site disagrees, AJ.

ridiculous post

don't ever try that ...

instead of running away give us your own reads ...

[Frozen Angel]

Dwlee, could I bother you for your reads?

What are you even talking about fallen. That is my strongest read atm. Idk what you mean by I am running away. Dont ever try what? Saying the word probably? What are you even saying?

so instead of saying I'm agreed with someone 100% go ask her , start answering

[Frozen Angel]

Trying to look like you're posting content when you really aren't strikes me as scummy. So I don't really see your point here; I am looking for scum. Instead of actually disagreeing with my point and explaining why, you just sorta go ad hominem. Not liking it

you are saying that I'm not posting content. which is incorrect. I'm publishing my view to the game and how I think about them, I ask questions and seek for their answers.

I really can't see what am I accused of exactly to answer it.

[Frozen Angel]

I really don't like how dweele got defensive so soon after the vote. I think he has something to hide.

[Frozen Angel]

Defensivrneness isnt alignment indicative. Do you want me to not instantly lynch the obvious scum that is pistach1o?

why he is "obvious scum" ?

[Frozen Angel]

VOTE: Pistachi0n
Comes in, bandwagons onto me because I look like an easy target and then practically admits to not even reading the thread because if they did they would know what the VCA was about instead of saying things like "VCA before flips. How?" to make me look bad and like they are actually contributing.
Titus, join me? I have my mom's homemade brownies for ya'!

it won't make him "obvious scum"

[Frozen Angel]

Also, ha, the joy of being accused of buddying by someone who has literally begged half of the playerlist to vote with her, with promises of cookies too. Beautiful.

This made me laugh more than it should and it hurts because my throat is hoarse Dx

Ok so far I have

Spoiler:

Froggers God of frogs and man, Creator of the lands of Denmark, He who gave the lands to the queen.

Frozen Angel the Ice queen of Denmark

RC The loyal right hand of the queen that helped her destoy the fire nation

Firebringer Hidden prince of the fire nation now captive servant of the queen as a trophy

Shiro Honoured guest from nyctapolis that stumbled upon the duo in the lands of fire

Espeonage Leader of the spy network

Grib the royal advisor

Elyse the royal vanguards most honoured captain

Titus the traveling baker of wonders

Dweel The genius son of the of the queen

Davsto Shiro's royal mathematician

Shinobi Best spy of the nation, most trusted unit of the spy network

MarioManiac Traveling bard, known for his attention drawing antics.

LOL

Spoiler: Ice Queen Figure

Ice queen order : let put some pressure on Davsto. his latest posts are not good. no this posts are not showing your try to scum hunt. I don't like the way you call the one accusing you noob and seriously , the only thing is in your posts is buddying and following. the only push you did was against RC, which I don't like ... because its RC! and RC is always like this ....

VOTE: Dvasto

Dwlee99 is so obsessed about pistache. I don't like to comment about it until seeing pistache's reaction

[Frozen Angel]

Ice queen order : let put some pressure on Davsto. his latest posts are not good.

Why not?

because their not

no this posts are not showing your try to scum hunt.

Ahh, not scumhunting, by doing things such as questioning people's actions, stating the odd townread and even finding something I fin scummy and voting based on it.

you didn't pressure the one you found scummy. you just assumed it.
pedit : let me talk!

I don't like the way you call the one accusing you noob

I didn't do that? I merely said that I am fully aware that Titus can play better than this. That's... not calling her a newb. Borderline the opposite, I'd argue.

ok change what I said to what you said. I don't like it anyway.

and seriously , the only thing is in your posts is buddying and following. the only push you did was against RC

> makes point about all I've been doing is buddying and following
> follows it up by immediately mention some scumhunting I've done, neither buddying nor following

you were buddying and following unless about RC ... (that was hard to understand?)

, which I don't like ... because its RC! and RC is always like this ....

I know what RC is like. Please pay attention and look to see that my reason I find RC scummy is

nothing to do

with typical RC traits, rather than assuming I think he's scum because of them.

Also, once again, apparently I'm the one buddying, after you make a post which is literally parroting every goddamn thing Titus has said. Nice one.

I can't see why you think RC is scum. your points are the thing I think its all are habits of regular RC.

and I buddying titus hahaha sure. is she accused? what I'm buddying of? I'm just pressuring you to see how you will react and this wasn't townish at all...

[Frozen Angel]

so your agreed the only place you really tried to push is RC? that doesn't seem like a desperate town trying to solve the game.

I don't like when you say that the one who is leading people against you can't understand this and asking her to play better.
and I'm assuring you that the only purpose of these questions is my try o validate titus accusations on you and sorting your slot.
about RC I must mention that I don't like to push him in day 1. his behaviour might be helpful to find scums later on. so I'm going to unleash him and let him do his work for a while.

please give me all your reads sir. about every player in game individually.

[Frozen Angel]

post 463 was townish

UNVOTE: Davsto

scum would have gone to try making a list. for now your not scum

[Frozen Angel]

FA is a joke at this point. Not sure if really bad scum or really bad town.

[Frozen Angel]

I'm hellish angry that I want to vote Elyse for what she said about me. ..............

why you say I'm a joke? If you can't find out I'm town or scum why you even mention that? why you call me a bad player?

I'm just a new player. sorry if my playstyle don't satisfy your measures of playing with a pro player.

[Frozen Angel]

I'm trying to find the truth. I will pressure who i want , I will ask whatever I like. I will do whatever I think its good and I will produce any noises I guess will help me to catch scum.

You have any problem with that?

[Frozen Angel]

In 180, FA effectively says that I'm not doing anything but making noise by saying that I think she's done pretty much the same thing.

if you could read you could see I didn't called you noisy. I just said why are you sitting there doing nothing and calling me noisy.

what have you done beside that?

[Frozen Angel]

catching up

[Frozen Angel]

about dave I'm not sure after reading titus post about his reads. Refusing to give a full list can be forgiven, but about the active ones?

this answer is not right

Why do that? I focus on single scum at a time. Giving plenty of reads just lets scum know if I've got my eye on them. Giving only relevant reads is necessary in my opinion; scumreads if I'm interacting and pushing them, and townreads on people who I feel are being unnecessarily wagoned/scumread, such as poor little MarioManiac.

YOU should share your reads with us. whats the point of keeping them in secret?

and this ^ is budding. POOR LITTLE Mario is not even under pressure and he can defend himself.

and this is not a good answer after being called out defensive :

Defensiveness is not a scumtell

defensiveness is not a scumtell

why is that? your not under real pressure just some "noises" (Heat can define that for you) . get to defensive too soon is a scumtell

[Frozen Angel]

FA, what music do you listen to?

country? I like "Take me to church" from Hozier

but I'm fan of symphonic metal. within temptation and nightwish

[Frozen Angel]

@RC
yep

"The Frozen Tears of Angels" ...

but my nick name is from within temptation songs : "frozen" and "angels"

[Frozen Angel]

what have you done beside that?

I mean objectively not much, I'll admit. My wednesdays are 13 hours so I didn't have time to actually sit down and read the thread

^ I like to

what have you done beside that?

I mean objectively not much, I'll admit. My wednesdays are 13 hours so I didn't have time to actually sit down and read the thread

so whats your problem with me actually?

[Frozen Angel]

first quote is wrong I was talking to RC

[Frozen Angel]

Did you mean you like Luca Turili's solo career as well or you'd like me to paste you some songs?

I never heard his solo's before. But I will soon becuase of your comment

[Frozen Angel]

FA I've already stated my reasons for scumreading you

no you didn't you continued to call me noisy.

you can find them on your own then

whats wrong RC? don't be sad ... I appreciate if you link me some of them.

[Frozen Angel]

I really recommend you start with this one.



It's a 12 minute doozy of a song but it really sums up what their music is all about.

Excluding the 20 second storytelling part in the middle which I never like it's one of my favourites.

wow this is awesome:

you don't know Epica RC?!! how is that possible.

[Frozen Angel]

Spoiler: cry for the moon

[Frozen Angel]

from epica?!

[Frozen Angel]

Spoiler: more epica

sure grib I was waiting for heat response which I think I won't get it anytime soon right now ...

[Frozen Angel]

*holds knife to throat*

TOUCH HIM NOW

I have a good feeling about grib.

[Frozen Angel]

and yeah dweele wagon is awful. But I can't read inactives ... they need to start posing

My top suspects right now are : heat , Dvasto , Elyse and Espeonage

about Esponage , he is likely actively lurking means he is posting things contains nothing and he has a meaningless vote on grab.

I'm not sure who should I vote right now.

pedit : sniped ........again.....

[Frozen Angel]

oh!

I just remmebered we need 10 votes to lynch so heat can handle a little bit more pressure :

VOTE: heat

[Frozen Angel]

nah I'm going to make here a freezing hell

[Frozen Angel]

whats weird you can't see my Iciness?

[Frozen Angel]

Paradox Annie is my sis. she is flaming hot just like my other sis lina

I'm a frozen angel myself

what were you referring too?

[Frozen Angel]

Spoiler: me and sis

go read Rylai and lina background.

We have or fights , BAD fights but we can handle things at the end

and Annie is our step sis who is in far away land atm

[Frozen Angel]

Both of your songs were good too FA! Just finished them!

My favourite is still Sancta Terra which I got to accidentally though.

[Frozen Angel]

Its me and lina my sis. annie is in a far away lands bro.

[Frozen Angel]

ok we're completely out of the game right now! lets get back to work.

FB whats your opinion about heat?

[Frozen Angel]

Lady Titus can we form a grand wagon on Zympx?

Explain why Zympx.

Because he needs pressure. He is an absolute zero in the game so far.

I'm just waiting for things to get interresting, while being busy with other stuff.
I've allready voted for 2 people so far, so I am not going to change my vote from Dwlee to someone else without a good reason to do so.

ps.

From my experience on mafiascum, I've noticed that Day 1 tend to last much longer than neccesary with a lot of random content taking up a looot of space. Like for example, in my last game (that wasn't Blitz) Day 1 took up 22 pages while the rest of the game from Day 2-4 only took up 8 pages (Despite containing a lot more content). I am not going to tire myself out on Day 1...

But we need you to talk to us. what is your opinion about all these random things going on?

we won't let someone go in the shadows and let the town to tear itself apart.

[Frozen Angel]

I am packing.

to where?

I don't agree with this general likeness of FA. I think that this could easily be a scum game and letting the fluff post go so heavily is allowing any scum in this main group to assimilate by posting nothing more than fluff. Don't mind fluff like others (Shinobi) however recognize the consequences that can come with it.

why? you don't like epica? or my scum reads? I caught one of your scum buddies in process?

All these heat puns... I love it

You like my vote on you?

will be edited in after I nap

you don't need to prove us anything you can have your first post each page

[Frozen Angel]

why is this place like a graveyard? we have 18 players but only 5-6 people are talking .... :/ who is lying low?!!!

ah FOUND : notscience ...

[Frozen Angel]

Not super fond of the Heat wagon, maybe it's just because he asked where I was. Why would he care if I was being quiet when town was plenty active at that point other than to try and sort me? Seems too proactive to be scum.

you say your not a fan of heat wagon and you find him scummy at the same time?!! :/

[Frozen Angel]

oh my english sorry

[Frozen Angel]

But I can't see why you call him active. he is just like the opposite. asking an inactive instead of sharing reads about active players its not townish .... :/

[Frozen Angel]

Elyse you suddenly started town reading me ? or I missed something? :/

[Frozen Angel]

pistachio - Dweele is like a TvS fight. not sure which side is town though ... dweele is really focused on him right now.

[Frozen Angel]

ok lets get out of annie cult!

back to me again! and pre merry christmas!

[Frozen Angel]

sorry for this rate of avatar change I promise she will stay for at least 2 months!

[Frozen Angel]

Anyone wanna take bets that this setup is multiball?

whats a multiball setup?

[Frozen Angel]

7 pages is probs not in rvs zone.

btw just went and had a look bc this went from role pms to gamestart before I was online. And I am p sure there are at least 6 anti town slots, as per the unwritten modding rule that you never start a game unless there is at least one scum confirmed. And a third of the game being scum is p damn rough.

^ I think he means this one. I was digging his ISO .

so seriously , what is a multiball setup?

[Frozen Angel]

It means two scum teams.

Mafia Team (3 players)
Werewolf Team (3 Players)

Most likely scenario if it is multiball.

oh. I'll go check on wiki ....

[Frozen Angel]

pistachio - Dweele is like a TvS fight. not sure which side is town though ... dweele is really focused on him right now.

I dont like this post. It just rubs me the wrong way. They are kind of fence sitting here.

I mean I can see it both ways.

your scum version just found an easy place to lynch because his total inactiveness.

and his scum because of his bad reactions to your pressure.

why you don't like my posts

* that time I wasn't considering two scum factions - well know I can change that to this : I think you two are not same aligned. better?

[Frozen Angel]

@Aj I explained it in post 829. your either blind or scum.
I never see both them a possible scum. is that so hard to understand?
and when did I exactly played both side of the fence?

@Titus I get your concerns about dave but he isn't that obvious scum. I can't accept voting him today.

[Frozen Angel]

my second sentence is wrong in english I guess

I meant I think at least one of them is scum .... language barrier

[Frozen Angel]

I'm full on calling Frozen Angel scum.

I posted that to prove their not same aligned. no I'm not sure who is scum are you?! scum

[Frozen Angel]

Remind me about why we think Frozen Angel is town.

It really isn't. Do you vote people off of the specific words they say (We/you) or what they're saying?

remind me why you think I'm scum?! :/

[Frozen Angel]

This was literally explained 2 pages ago. You were taking the position of allowing yourself two lynches when you were suggesting one town in the group. You never specified who was more likely to be scum, just that one is. The reasons for this feeling were not adequate either.

I litterally explained it in last page I guess. You just said you don't find my answer satisfying. you never say why.

I said one of them is potentially scum because for a scum!dweel its easy to make a wagon on someone seemingly inactive. and if dweel is town pistachio's creepy reaction indicates he is scum

^ this is like being opportunistic? It just me trying to solve the fucking game. you think its already solved? ofcourse I won't vote dweel over pistachio. I'm just mentioning how can he be a scum making such an easy wagon.

tell me which part of my reasoning is flawed

[Frozen Angel]

FB - massage on wiki page received - sorry

[Frozen Angel]

IT WAS MY POSITION SINCE THE BEGINNING GO GET LOST

[Frozen Angel]

Stop getting distracted, we're lynching stachi0n.

Aj is busted I guess. accusing me for backtracking when I just repeated my last sentense.

If your sure about me being scum why your not answering why you found my answer wrong and my logic flawed ?

@Dweele even if someone scum slip?

[Frozen Angel]

pistachio - Dweele is like a TvS fight. not sure which side is town though ... dweele is really focused on him right now.

I dont like this post. It just rubs me the wrong way. They are kind of fence sitting here.

I mean I can see it both ways.

your scum version just found an easy place to lynch because his total inactiveness.

and his scum because of his bad reactions to your pressure.

why you don't like my posts

* that time I wasn't considering two scum factions - well know I can change that to this : I think you two are not same aligned. better?

This was literally explained 2 pages ago. You were taking the position of allowing yourself two lynches when you were suggesting one town in the group. You never specified who was more likely to be scum, just that one is. The reasons for this feeling were not adequate either.

I litterally explained it in last page I guess. You just said you don't find my answer satisfying. you never say why.

I said one of them is potentially scum because for a scum!dweel its easy to make a wagon on someone seemingly inactive. and if dweel is town pistachio's creepy reaction indicates he is scum

^ this is like being opportunistic? It just me trying to solve the fucking game. you think its already solved? ofcourse I won't vote dweel over pistachio. I'm just mentioning how can he be a scum making such an easy wagon.

tell me which part of my reasoning is flawed

totally backtracking .... peh


VOTE: Aj (and this is clearly OMGUS - but on a busted scum)

[Frozen Angel]

But no one scum slipped..? Sooooo

look at aj!

[Frozen Angel]

No one scum slipped. You're applying it when it fits you.

You said why we are town reading FA ? just after you accused me of being scum

You said I'm trying to backtracking when I just said the same thing again! and asked you why you think its wrong to avoid answers.

and Now you refusing to answer that?

and now your accusing me that I'm applying all these points because they fits me?

come on! you did these things or not?

[Frozen Angel]

That's not slipping. >.<

Ughhhhh I just want to lynch stachi0nnnnnnn

open your eyes!

[Frozen Angel]

to avoid answers.

this is about you not me

I meant you accused me of backtracking to avoid answering me...

[Frozen Angel]

No one scum slipped. You're applying it when it fits you.

You said why we are town reading FA ? just after you accused me of being scum

You said I'm trying to backtracking when I just said the same thing again! and asked you why you think its wrong to avoid answers.

and Now you refusing to answer that?

and now your accusing me that I'm applying all these points because they fits me?

come on! you did these things or not?

That's not a scum slip? I wasn't implying I was townreading you, just saying 'we' as a collective town. This isn't like a one time quirk of me using 'we'. And if that's really all you have to go on, you are reaching sooo damn hard. That's your entire reason? YES you're applying a scum slip because it fits you: There's nothing here.

You backtracked. You started by giving reasons both Pistachion and Dwlee could be scum independently and then said you only saw one as scum. However you could never specify which one was more likely to be scum. You left yourself open to have two lynches. You let it be so you had no committed town read to either one (lynch one who flips scum, you just go take the other one out by your logic). This is a scum 2 for 1 attempt.

for god sake .... you weren't implying your town reading me. you just wanted to give yourself a space to run away if you got trapped.

I said I'm sure one of them is scum. what is scummy about that? what is scummy to be null-having a slight lean on two people ?

You don't do that? no I had no commited town read on either one. I never did ^ I said my scum read on them and that's scummy because ? :/

[Frozen Angel]

You really think I was about to pretend I hadn't scum read you?

And saying ONE OF THE TWO is scummy is EXACTLY what is scummy. You gave no reason on which one you wanted to search for first. You're saying of them is scum and letting them take both lynches before you have to explain why you were wrong.

exactly. If not, why in earth you want to ask that after accusing me of being scum?

I never said 1 of two is scum and the other is not for sure. I was thinking about a simple town-mafia game and I didn't knew we can't have two scum parties.

That post means I'm sure their not same aligned and If you asked me why I would answer : Because its simply stupid to think dweele is bussing his partner for nothing in day 1. I repeat my question : you can't have a slight scum lean on two people? and have a sorted mine that one is probably town?

[Frozen Angel]

I demand a wagon on Aj. he did enough mistakes to earn it. Heat can w8 for now.

[Frozen Angel]

You handle lurkers by having them replaced if possible.

I want FA much more you. And pressure is irrelevant. "pressure" is a bullshit concept.

That was informative. thanks for clarifying this.

@Dweele I read pistachio Iso over and over. he is lurking. lurkers are possible scums. try to find scums. like Aj ^

or If your that convinced about him instead of shouting it show us what are we missing ...

[Frozen Angel]

Dweele insights against Pystachio looks interesting in my mind. But still I like to see his or his replacements answer (ever going to be replaced?) ... I won't lynch someone for lurking and skimming when he looks like busy and can't play. not now at least.

[Frozen Angel]

They post once every time they are due for a prod. Threy arent getting replaced anytime soon.

hmmm, but still it likes a policy lynch

[Frozen Angel]

I think 3 prods force replacing? anything like that?

[Frozen Angel]

Mod is pystachio proded?

[Frozen Angel]

Mod is pystachio proded?

No. Players have 72 hours (3 days) to post before prodding and pistachi0n last posted 2 days 15 hours ago.

nice ty

[Frozen Angel]

So you finally realized I am town, mario?

Not even sure.
Which is why I figured it could actually be multiball.

pretty much what I said before ...

Aj you here this? scum as well ?

[Frozen Angel]

hear* ^

[Frozen Angel]

pistachi0n lynch still looks like a policy lynch. Aj posts are that awful which my can't accept a pistachi0n lynch over it.

But I'm ok with that lynch as just as Aj's

[Frozen Angel]

my gut * posting from phone deeply sorry

[Frozen Angel]

I want to see any response from him before voting him. and I request a pressure wagon on Aj

[Frozen Angel]

Pystachio is inactive all over the site. I'm plying other games with him as well.

[Frozen Angel]

one other game

[Frozen Angel]

I think there is something going on with his real life. I don't like to lynch people because they can't catch up with game.

[Frozen Angel]

nah I'm certain I can't talk about his activity. I already checked it . thanks for the heads up

[Frozen Angel]

I can*

[Frozen Angel]

Discussions about Activity
Players may discuss activity in other games in a general sense, including counting how many games a player is alive in. However, this may not mention ANYTHING of substance.

[Frozen Angel]

The current discussion about activity that has taken place has not crossed the line and was perfectly fine, but just a general caution to please be careful. I will not hesitate to take action if rules are broken

sure!

[Frozen Angel]

Dwlee is town this game. That much is apparent.

"apparent" is just for scum......

[Frozen Angel]

Your face is just for scum, frozen.

means scums are in love with me? :/ they shouldn't because I will hunt them down sooner or later ...

[Frozen Angel]

ha.

I never said your not town ... you can be ... I said your not apparently town. only scum can tell such frases.

or your scum ?! :/

[Frozen Angel]

tell me 3 reasons that proves Dwlee is certainly town. (that's the meaning of apparent isn't it?)

[Frozen Angel]

Mod is pystachio proded?

No. Players have 72 hours (3 days) to post before prodding and pistachi0n last posted 2 days 15 hours ago.

This information is publicly available in the activity overview link on the bottom right of the page.

so prod pistachion mod?

[Frozen Angel]

I don't think Dwlee is scum anymore. He's so adamant, every post of his is "LYNCH PISTACHI0N LYNCH PISTACHI0N" and he even argued with Titus about the right reason to vote me when Titus was willing to vote me anyway.

I'm scum-reading Shinobi. Half of the posts are about semantics, "I guess," or statements with no elaboration.

VOTE: Shinobi

pista. are you playing this with us? or are you going to disappear for 3 days continuously and suddenly show up every time ... ?

[Frozen Angel]

I'm angry on pistachi0n slot.

please replace out or stay alive! :/ or at least let the prod force replace you! random commenting every three days will lynch you!

which I'm highly motivated to do right now. (BUT AJ IS SCUM )

[Frozen Angel]

the "stay alive" meaning was this : "stay active" its a common thing we use here in our language! :/

[Frozen Angel]

FA, parroting your own posts isn't going to help town win games.

and your helping it to win?

[Frozen Angel]

anyway! Aj whats your problem against me again?

when I parroted my posts?

[Frozen Angel]

I meant the parroting thing hahaha
your stupid accusation is already answered like 100 times ...

[Frozen Angel]

^ you call that parroting ?@ :/ !*&$

[Frozen Angel]

I meant the parroting thing hahaha
your stupid accusation is already answered like 100 times ...

"Aj is scum"

with nothing else. Over and over and over again. That's parroting.

and you town reading dwlee becuase he sais "Pistachio is scum" over and over again ....

and you don't say "Frozen is scum" over and over ...



If I find a scum I will parrot it as much as possible to get a wagon on him. have a nice day

[Frozen Angel]

hmmm lets summarize. best valid cases today :

AJ (Best case)
pistachi0n
Heat
Espionage
Dave

who is disagreed?

[Frozen Angel]

^ you can Iso me ....

[Frozen Angel]

Well that was interesting.

what was?

[Frozen Angel]

you need help for the ice creams?

[Frozen Angel]

its going to be a pystachi0n or AJ lynch yeah...

[Frozen Angel]

more happy about an aj lynch ... ^_^

[Frozen Angel]

look at his every attack on me and you will see why.

w8. we had an RC in this game?!! :/

[Frozen Angel]

and I can see Elyse Bussing on both of them

[Frozen Angel]

that lynch poooool is scummy!

we need to lynch Aj! look at heat , MM , Espio , zymf , Elyse !

whyyyy in earth should we lynch an scum drivven pool?

pedit :sniped :/

[Frozen Angel]

People let's plot twist this day and lynch Zympx

why!? when we can lynch Aj :/ !

[Frozen Angel]

pistachion wagon is absurd (as I said in post 1341 :/ - in same minute of him)

Aj has 5 votes on him. we have a decent chance for lynching him. who is not willed to vote Aj ?

[Frozen Angel]

pistachion wagon is absurd (as I said in post 1341 :/ - in same minute of him)

Aj has 5 votes on him. we have a decent chance for lynching him. who is not willed to vote Aj ?

Apparently everyone no ton the wagon.

People are flip floping on him a lot

That's the reason I'm nearly sure about him being scum

[Frozen Angel]

that killing me would make no sense.

this is not even funny to talk about ... :/

[Frozen Angel]

why should someone talk about the night kill ?! :/

[Frozen Angel]

I do that regardless.

[Frozen Angel]

I do that regardless.

nobody noticed it? he just confirmed he is probably scum! :/

[Frozen Angel]

I do that regardless.

nobody noticed it? he just confirmed he is probably scum! :/

Saying that I point out stuff post game as an "I told you so" is confirming me as scum. This one is new.

best twist of my words!

I said you said "I will do this regardless of my alignment." this means you kind of confirmed that you might not be town. you as town won't do that.

[Frozen Angel]

hello nero

[Frozen Angel]

and join Aj wagon , he missed this part

[Frozen Angel]

Its a really long story and its 2 am here in my timeline :/

[Frozen Angel]

you need to read the thread for that. I'm sorry

[Frozen Angel]

I've had a strong belief that Frozen_Angel, someone Titus thinks is town, has been scum. In general, their posting is fluff but some of the things FA said earlier in the thread pertaining to the Dwlee/Pistachio argument was really bad. She called it a TvS and never specified which part was scum, but was willing to go lynch to find out. That, on top of the fact that there's very little if any analysis or questioning or real advancement to the gamestate from that slot has me believing FA is scum.

we're back in the first place!

see ?! I already explained this like , 1000000 times :/ whats scummy about analysing an argument and considering their not same aligned?

you can believe whatever you want I'm happy with my vote.

[Frozen Angel]

and my name has no _ inside.

[Frozen Angel]

no _

1 - Aj
2 - Espinage
3 - pignash
4 - pistachi0n

[Frozen Angel]

you and heat are in my null slight scum lean category

[Frozen Angel]

what is accurate about 1402? go back in my Iso and read.

[Frozen Angel]

but pig not wanting to join either wagon is just hilariously bad.

that's something I'm agreed on.
pig always acted distanced ...

[Frozen Angel]

East ...

[Frozen Angel]

srs answer

[Frozen Angel]

and the exact same thing Aj is calling me scum for and your agreed on (which Its a complete misrepresentation)

[Frozen Angel]

and can you please answer what I added to shiro's post Nero ?

[Frozen Angel]

fair enough.

I'm waiting for your answer after you caught up.

[Frozen Angel]

Go with what I decided upon and trust titus or go with my first instinct that AJ is town?

And nero is town.

Aj someone is branching , scummy ?

and why nero is town? specially when he isn't caught up yet ?

[Frozen Angel]

I don't what the actual term is this for such dilemmas , so I used branching ...

[Frozen Angel]

the first part is a question I asked AJ : "you find dewele's "I should believe he is town or not" delima scummy or not"

and you like what about Nero's posts ?

[Frozen Angel]

what is your current read on titus?

[Frozen Angel]

I had a game with pignash already. got lynched in day 1 because of the last minute scummy posts he made.

I'm more convinced to try my chance with Aj

[Frozen Angel]

and I forgot he was just a vanilla town

[Frozen Angel]

I see nothing out bordered from him. he is scummy yes. but Aj is way more scummier

[Frozen Angel]

Sure, because scum like to all be on the same wagon so it's nice and easy to pick out. It's probably an inevitability to them so they don't give a fuck.

my name don't have _ ........

[Frozen Angel]

you just solved the game didn't you? how smart from a scum

[Frozen Angel]

I really have no idea. Aj seems a very good case. his scum read on my dilemma post , his repeatedly scum slips. the way he said "I do this either way"...

Shiro you really can't see them?

I'm not happy with pignash wagon. it seems a counter wagon in last day for me.

[Frozen Angel]

His scum read on your dilemma could be a misunderstanding

a misunderstanding he never stopped pushing ?

[Frozen Angel]

ok I'm catching up right now...

[Frozen Angel]

I'm like, 65% sure pignash is mislynch bait.

yep

Neither of those are smart moves. The only reason Pig is wagoned is because not AJ/Dave/Elyse

yep not sure about dave. but Elyse is acting weird . she go on Aj, go back on pig , suggest a titus lynch , then go back on aj.... :/

and calling it 1v1 on titus in next day ....

it just make me more convinced pig is a scum counter wagon ...

Look for Elyse, Heat, FA, Pig and Drixx to be the majority of your scum. The confirmed town are obvious.

w8 , you suddenly scum reading Elyse? the one who tried that hard to get you out of this lynch ?

[Frozen Angel]

I am willed for that but I don't know if we can make 10 votes in 11 hours ...

[Frozen Angel]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: MarioManiac

I'll move back to Aj if this doesn't happen.

why mario again all of the sudden?

w8 , you suddenly scum reading Elyse? the one who tried that hard to get you out of this lynch ?

Did you just start reading? I've been scum reading Elyse for a while.

you just started calling her scum for a while. you never stated your reasons ...

[Frozen Angel]

You don't remember my push on him? I think he reacted horribly, and he hasn't done anything towny since then.

I know what do you mean. But we have 11 hours till deadline. and Aj- Elyse seems way more scummier.

[Frozen Angel]

You don't remember my push on him? I think he reacted horribly, and he hasn't done anything towny since then.

I know what do you mean. But we have 11 hours till deadline. and Aj- Elyse seems way more scummier.

screw the remaining time. this might actually happen and as I'm reading back the thread I see why MM can be considered more scummy than Aj or anybody else ...

VOTE: Mario

But the only point bothering me its that we never went for a role claim from Aj. he literally scaped...

[Frozen Angel]

Hey people!

No Dave ... No Titus ...

VOTE: Elyse

you have something to say about your last day comments?

[Frozen Angel]

Eww titus votes. Gross.

titus votes are better than Elyse votes.

yeah , exactly the point.

[Frozen Angel]

No i think its a language barrier Titus votes (the votes titus made) are better than the Elyse's (the ones Elyse made)

[Frozen Angel]

ok, now I understand the whole conversation happened here

[Frozen Angel]

Why did you dodge by reflecting this onto me?

Nonsensical opinions. Nothing Elyse has said has made an ounce of protown sense. She's just trying to rile people against me rather than scumhunt.

She's not my favorite wagon but I see why others see she's scum.

I would rather lynch Dave because he treats me like other scum I have seen in games past and hasn't done much here.

So why won't you vote them?

I skimmed her ISO and nothing shot out as scummy. So I "deflected" since I don't see anything scummy.

Your Dave case is junk. What do you this of his entrance today?

I don't think Elyse is scum.

Who thinks Elsye is scum?

you do.

whats your case?

[Frozen Angel]

anybody ! your just saying your not agreed with anyone in anything ...

[Frozen Angel]

FA, keep it up and you may be the 6th mason in the order of Shiro.

It'll be an honor!

As an Ice queen ... I will make a frozen castle for order in the highest mountain of Denmark!

I don't think I ever said that?

Though I think Pig and Esp are scum so.

hmmm, But you see all Elyse , Aj , Dave as town ? You said you check their ISO's and your not seeing them as scum

I mean I am confused about your reads. You not seeing the ones tunneling as scum - your not seeing the one tunneled as scum , your seeing everyone as town ?

And I can't see the reason of your push against pig. and Eps is just the easiest push in game atm ...

[Frozen Angel]

@Titus I have no problem in town reading you , Dwlee , Grib and Shiro but why you brought Drixx in order ?

why should I town read him ?

[Frozen Angel]

what the hell is top post... ?! I never said it ...

[Frozen Angel]

oh! I just realized what happened... answer incoming

[Frozen Angel]

I've only looked and Elyses ISO and yes nothing "scummy" jumped out at me. All I remember of yesterday is that Titus said that she was was right in other games so I should sheep her on AJ. And today Titus' whole case on Dave is that he treated her like scum has in a previous game. Do you feel like these are good reasons?

You said you looked Aj's iso yesterday if I'm not mistaking ... You solidly avoided involving with Aj at the end portion of last day.

and You seems just so defensive about other slots atm

When did I say that?

ahh ... you never said that. but you never said otherwise. I'm asking you whats your read list ? You see pig and eps scummy and your ok with everyone else?

and Yeah I find Eps inactivity scummy as much as inactive deserve it. your pushing on him atm is just absurd and seems like avoiding contributing in any ongoing conversations.

And No I can't see your real try to solve the game. your just prunnig

[Frozen Angel]

avoiding contributing in any ongoing conversations.

What in the world do you think I'm avoiding?

scumreading Titus/Dave , Me/Aj , Dweel/Pista , lots of people/Elyse ...

your not sharing any reads about wagons... just "not scumreading anything"

[Frozen Angel]

I see pig and Eps scum reads as an easy hiding place for someone atm ...

[Frozen Angel]

stop throwing shade

ok so give me your readlist.

it must contains this people :

Titus , Dave , Me , Aj , Dweel , Pista , Shiro , FB

thx

[Frozen Angel]

and yeah I forgot Elyse ... :/