The War to End All Freaktowns: GAME OVER

[Battle Mage]

Vote: Flameaxe

[Battle Mage]

Vote: Flameaxe

Flameaxe Wagon, FTW?

that is correct.

[Battle Mage]

Vote: Flameaxe

Flameaxe Wagon, FTW?

that is correct.

I do not trust your logic, sir.

you should. You're obviously such a big fan of mine that you have my name in your sig.

[Battle Mage]

Unvote, Vote: IH

whats with all the name-dropping dude?

[Battle Mage]

Whats with that statement, and how did it make sense in context to a vote?

just seemed like you were trying to associate yourself with alot of other people. Maybe linking yourself to townies? I'm not sure, but its a slight improvement on a random vote, so you cant complain.

[Battle Mage]

please dont condone their behaviour.

Vote: Ibaesha

[Battle Mage]

Condone their behavior? How about laughing at the silliness of it all, including your reactions. I wasn't sure what the point of it was, but it was funny. Lighten up. And how does my amusement with the thread make me suspicious to you? Explain yourself.

me lighten up?
i'm not the one who's getting edgy over what is essentially a random-vote (and probably not even a valid one, as i deliberately didnt unvote).
Still, it would be nice to have some support against the evil scumpair of IH and Jdodge!

[Battle Mage]

i think the solution to everyones problem is lynching me today. so lets do it!

[Battle Mage]

i think the solution to everyones problem is lynching me today. so lets do it!

EBWOP: Screw that-i just remembered this was the game with the cool items.
I'm not going anywhere unless i can help it.

[Battle Mage]

I've got an idea IH. Why dont you just stop talking to me? That way, we can both get on with the game, and we dont have to listen to each others shit-talk. The problem with letting personal issues get in the way of the game, is that you can end up with a screwed perspective, and be forced to lynch someone simply because you are annoyed with them, rather than for them being actually scummy. I actually don't know what i have done to offend you, but if you really have a big problem over playing in a game with me, send me a pm, and we can sort it out. If you don't, i guess i can assume you just like picking on the minority (which is actually fun unless you are the minority. lol)

Unvote, Vote: MissMoo

Why are you so worried about looking scummy tomorrow?

BM

[quote="BM']please dont condone their behaviour. Vote: Ibaesha

See this is why you don't have friends.

I bet you were the kid in school that reminded the teacher you had homework last night, screwing everyone.

i think the solution to everyones problem is lynching me today. so lets do it!

This is the best idea I've ever seen from BM.

Mariyta wagon is better.[/quote]

[Battle Mage]

BM you continue to fail.

I await your pm IH. Until then, i reccommend u shut up, or alternatively, post something useful. You know you are capable of the latter option at least.

[Battle Mage]

BM you continue to fail.

I await your pm IH. Until then, i reccommend u shut up, or alternatively, post something useful. You know you are capable of the latter option at least.

NO U

Seriously, you should use my advice on fixing your problem. Really.

Seriously i think you should get some new chat up lines. You've told me that joke twice already. Get some new content, and most of all

KEEP IT OUT OF THE GAME

.

[Battle Mage]

ok. I'm officially on lurk-mode in this game. If you need me, get the mod to prod me.

[Battle Mage]

Unvote, Vote: Kinetic

[Battle Mage]

I think we should claim what items we have. I don't know what being a mayor does, but I don't think that the sucm should become mayors. Yea, I know that there are plenty of arguments to be made for not claiming our items, so go ahead and make them. Just don't expect me to respond or argue against them, because I've thought of them already. I just think that things would become a lot more fun and interesting if we claimed our items, and I'm sure something could would come out of it.

I'm not sure about this. Alot of the items we could have are obvious, as they might have appeared on the ground at the start of the day. It doesnt really prove anything, but it allows scum to possibly eliminate those with more items first, in an attempt to pick up the dropped items next day.

BM

and just so i can see this irony of which Kinetic speaks,

Unvote, Vote: Scope

[Battle Mage]

OMGUS...

[Battle Mage]

Holy wagonshifts batman!

don't panic. your buddy K-Scope is still 8 from a lynch.

[Battle Mage]

why are their two Battle Mage's in the vote count?

lol i'm so awesome i had to be put in twice.

[Battle Mage]

Holy wagonshifts batman!

don't panic. your buddy K-Scope is still 8 from a lynch.

You ruined my day.

At last, my life is fulfilled.

[Battle Mage]

/agree

homophobe.

[Battle Mage]

/agree

homophobe.

I never said I hated your lifestyle choice, only that you like to take it in the bum.

incorrect. You confirmed agreement with a statement which used the term 'gay' to mean something detrimental-something i would expect from a 5 year old. Even Jathan knows better. It can be assumed that Albert did not mean 'gay' literally, but you seem to have failed to realise this. Do you see now why it is impossible for people to take what you say seriously?

[Battle Mage]

BM, here's step-by-step instructions to fix your problem.

1. Locate stick.
2. Remove from ass.

here's a step by step list of what do when faced with idiocy.

1. find out the sort of things that the idiot in question is likely to be flummoxed by.
2. make a comment for which there is absolutely no comeback for the idiot in question.

Here goes:

NO U

[Battle Mage]

lol i'm not homosexual, but i do know ppl who are, and thus i find it offensive. Just like you might find it offensive if i called your mom a slut, even if you werent one yourself. :p
there again, maybe you wouldnt.

[Battle Mage]

Standard Rules, Slightly Modified (from rolandofthewhite):

10. Don't be a jerk.

if we get too many personal attacks and conversations going way away from the game i will set post restrictions and/or replace.

please keep the spam down i just prodded our two no shows. do you really want them going through 7+ pages of you all spamming?

thankyou.

now guys, can we get on with the item-claiming. If its all the same, i think Jdodge should go first. :p

[Battle Mage]

No thanks

got something (no penis jokes please) to hide?

[Battle Mage]

Why Jdodge first?

Because BM doesn't like JD (or me for that matter).

nah i love you BBB.

[Battle Mage]

BBB ISN'T HERE.

i meant you. lol
sometimes people on here are referred to by their AIM names.

[Battle Mage]

We should wait to see if there is any more dissent.

i guess i'd better be the one to speak up. I have to admit, although most of what he says is total BS, Jdodge is right on this. Really we should have the scummiest players claiming first, and realistically, that should be those with largest BW's. As such, that means Scope and Mariyta should be going first.

Blight, if you could elaborate on what about my post gave you a bad vibe, that'd be good. Just do me a favour and dont suggest that it was WIFOM, because as surprising as it may sound in a game that has so far been taken so seriously by all, i was actually kidding. lol

[Battle Mage]

Mariyta-don't try and patronise me, when it is in fact YOU who has misunderstood. I believe i said that the most suspicious people should claim first. As K-Scope has more votes than you, i am saying that he should go first. Thats dissent.
Of course, in light of these recent comments, i'd be fairly happy for either of you to go first.
Just please pay attention in future.

We should wait to see if there is any more dissent.

i guess i'd better be the one to speak up. I have to admit, although most of what he says is total BS, Jdodge is right on this. Really we should have the scummiest players claiming first, and realistically, that should be those with largest BW's. As such, that means Scope and Mariyta should be going first.

Um, since you clearly weren't paying attention, the dissent he was speaking of was to whether I should go first or not...and though you seem to be trying to add dissent, you were simply agreeing with him.

Now, does everyone want me to claim what I have on me only? Or am I to claim what I need as well?

[Battle Mage]

ooh-Popcorn style claim. I believe MoS suggested that in Mafia 61. sounds fun!

[Battle Mage]

Mariyta-don't try and patronise me, when it is in fact YOU who has misunderstood. I believe i said that the most suspicious people should claim first. As K-Scope has more votes than you, i am saying that he should go first. Thats dissent.
Of course, in light of these recent comments, i'd be fairly happy for either of you to go first.
Just please pay attention in future.

SOMEONE WOKE UP ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE BED, SO TO SPEAK

really? was it one of your teddy bears?

[Battle Mage]

BM, you said KScope

AND

Mariyta. Not KScope then Mariyta. Big difference in meaning there. Anyway, I'm going first. I dropped the blackberries last night, and picked up the purse today. That's all I have on my person.

Popcorn style is one person goes, and picks the next. To make BM happy, I'm going to pick K-Scope to claim items next.

BM is relatively happy. lol

@IH-Jdodge does.

@Albert-such a claim can be useful so that people with items that go well with other items, can find the items they need. Plus it cements people to one story early on. Only issue is that it may reveal role information (who owns which shop etc.)

BM

[Battle Mage]

[quote="YagamiLight"][quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]Do we need to collect items then?

FYI: I've not dropped nor picked up anything this night/daycycle[/quote]Are you saying you have no items?[/quote]

FoS: YagamiLight

[Battle Mage]

[quote="JDodge"][quote="Battle Mage"][quote="YagamiLight"][quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]Do we need to collect items then?

FYI: I've not dropped nor picked up anything this night/daycycle[/quote]Are you saying you have no items?[/quote]

FoS: YagamiLight

[/quote]

Might I ask why?[/quote]

if you were town, it would be obvious.

[Battle Mage]

[quote="JDodge"][quote="Battle Mage"][quote="JDodge"][quote="Battle Mage"][quote="YagamiLight"][quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]Do we need to collect items then?

FYI: I've not dropped nor picked up anything this night/daycycle[/quote]Are you saying you have no items?[/quote]

FoS: YagamiLight

[/quote]

Might I ask why?[/quote]

if you were town, it would be obvious. [/quote]

I'm going to guess you're going to say "fishing", which is rather bullshit since you've been pushing for an item-claim.[/quote]

FoS: Jdodge

Don't act dumb. If you own a shop (as i believe 90% of protown players do) you get an item every night. Thus, if K-Scope has not picked up, or dropped any items, he should still have 1 item. Why did neither you or Yagami know this?

BM

[Battle Mage]

HoS: K-Scope

No, i dont really think you are incredibly scummy, but you are being needlessly awkward. Nobody else should claim until Scope has. Equally, i think he has enough votes atm to prompt him to speak.

BM

[Battle Mage]

[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]I dunno. I think this game has been reviewed good enough to not let it get broken by an itemclaim, but if people are dying for it.

I'm holding a Snoop Dogg CD and a unfermented Bear Bear[/quote]

I really dont know why MoS is the only one who has picked up on this.
Suffice to say, i see what ur doing MoS, and i won't say why for now, but

Vote: K-Scope

This guy is certain scum. srsly.

I'm genuinely proud to share a secret with MoS.

BM

[Battle Mage]

[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]Please keep it for yourself. Just give me the pleasure of you being all wrong.

Unvote Vote: K-scope

My task is done here. Cya[/quote]

PA-THET-IC.
You still haven't even worked out how we know you are scum.

[Battle Mage]

I may have this wrong, but if I am thinking the right thing, then I don't think he is scum. Also, the unfermented bear bear leads me to believe the same thing.

Unvote

HoS: YagamiLight

[Battle Mage]

Unvote

Do *not* lynch Kscope until we have finished claiming items. He is clearly voting himself in an attempt to cause confusion and hasten the inevitable lynch on himself. I will not let the scum get away with not claiming. Kinetic, I understand your issues, but this really is going to be better for the game. We've already caught one scum as a result of my pushing this item claim, it can't be *that* bad...

actually i disagree. Not with what you are saying-it is all true, but with your opinion on where to go from here. We have caught 1 scum today. Thats all we need for the moment. I suggest we lynch Scope now, and then unless we have any solid information to go on, continue the item-claim tomorrow.

BM

[Battle Mage]

Why?

I dont want to give the scum more information than necessary about who to kill tonight. Claiming a number of items is the equivalent of claiming a power role-and i dont think we need to do that on a day where our lynch choice is already decided.
I, for one, won't be claiming today. However i will claim first tomorrow if that is the will of the town.

BM

*Ibby-you can GIVE items? i thought the only way you could pass them was by dropping?

[Battle Mage]

No, you can give, drop, or save and use the next night (if you can use the item - this part was rather vague). I asked Raj about it. I didn't feel comfortable dropping the item so I gave it to someone for two reasons: Because I felt the item was fitting for the person (just a personal non-game related preference). And to see how they would handle having been given the item. ie: Would they drop it, would they claim it in a claiming situation, etc.

QFT - Mod told me, when I asked, I could give items.

Vote: Scope

thats odd. I'm sure i must have asked that, and i dont remember getting an affirmative response.

IH-we find out what the items do tonight i believe.

K-Scope-if you were town, our defeat would be down to you. You would have been the liar, and thus you need to take responsibility for your own cock-ups. I honestly dont know who you are trying to kid atm...

BM

[Battle Mage]

did anyone actually understand that post by Scope?


@MoS-wouldnt it be better if the person who recieved the item last night, claimed, so that Ibaesha could confirm them?

[Battle Mage]

rofl.

[Battle Mage]

MoS just leave it. Follow your own advice and spoil the trap. Its obvious that he doesnt know what he's done, and he is obviously scum. Explaining it to him is stupid.

BM

[Battle Mage]

^OH THE IRONY! lol
I'm so unhelpful that i'm helping to lynch scum, right?
As for your accusation that MoS and i are wrong, i think it is pretty well disproven by the fact that YOU STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT MISTAKE YOU MADE.

The fact is, if you are town, you are going to be up for the worst townie ever awared.
If you are scum, you should just shut up and die.

BM

[Battle Mage]

MoS, we can always leave the explanation till tomorrow. Speaking of which, when we do explain, can i do it? Then i can earn my 'BM is paying attention' Award. lol

[Battle Mage]

[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]The only reason I'm actually continue talking because I don't understand and because I am a townie. If I was scum, I would give up since I seriously have no idea the lynch can be turned into another side anyway. Make of that what you want.[/quote]

If you are a townie, you would understand. It really is that simple. I suspect you are scum who doesnt understand. Once you are dead, you ought to continue following the thread, whereby we will explain why you were so obviously scum.

@MoS-much as i dont think we should continue claiming, my answer has been made obvious anyway. As i didnt know we could give items privately at night, i didn't give anything away like that. lol

BM

[Battle Mage]

Appeal to Emotion and OMGUS. nice work Scope.

@Flameaxe-claiming your item now would be stupid. In other words, i'm kind of expecting you to claim now. :p

[Battle Mage]

is this your pathetic attempt to make it look like we are distancing? lol

[Battle Mage]

It would seem I can't sleep anymore without having 2 straight pages of BM, MoS and Scope arguing.

STFU Scum. Go die in a fire

QFT

I really get that vibe of "sick of this shit" from Scope. Possibly due to my own current level of apathy.

buddying up to scum noted.

[Battle Mage]

oh dear. I am actually appalled. We have a confirmed scumbag here, and people are actually bothering to protect him. It makes no sense. Even his scumbuddies are likely to bus him at this point, so i think its probably down to a significant number of people not paying attention to the game. If there is one thing i hate more than being whinged at, its being whinged at by people who evidently aren't even reading what is happening. I'm actually starting to think that we may need to reveal why Scope is confirmed scum, simply because i think half the town is simply scanning.

What do you think MoS?

BM

[Battle Mage]

in that case, can you please do me a favour and talk some sense to the others?

[Battle Mage]

Mariyta, I reveled my item, it was Napalm. Also, MoS, it's not what I think about BM that makes me believe K-Scope, its the bear bear that K-Scope has that does so.

omfg. read Scope's claim again. then read your role pm. then read DA RULES. the answer should be obvious.

[Battle Mage]

Okay, two things, one, my pm never mentions the giving of items, so that might actually only be mafia, two, I think I get what you guys are getting at and why you think he is scum, but I still don't think so, because of the Bear Bear portion of his claim.

YL-if you know what we are talking about, you also know that K-Scope has LIED. LaL anyone?

[Battle Mage]

I would like to know who Ibby gave her item to.

Can I get a consensus?

The options are, either Ibby claims who the item went to, and that player can confirm Ibby, or the player who thinks they recieved the item can claim, and Ibby can verify whether or not they are telling the truth. Sadly as passing items is not exclusive to the town, this might not be as valid.

BM

[Battle Mage]

unvote, vote: FLC

merely repeating a load of easy answers is not good protown play.

Also, why have we let Scope off the hook?

BM

[Battle Mage]

Hi, read took a long time. Last night "I" dropped the chocolate chip cookies, picked up nothing, recieved nothing, and currently am holding nothing. Since I did a quick read, maybe I just didn't pick up on the tell, but could MoS explain how he was so convinced KD was scum, though he isn't now? I agree that he was scummy, but BM is scummier for now, mostly because of eearlier stuff where he took everything way too seriously.

Seriously.

You say he's scummy, but wonder why he's convinced of him being scum.

unvote, vote:FLC

FoS:BM

err i dont follow why i got FoS'ed here.

[Battle Mage]

I should clarify.

You're not paying attention, and at this point don't care why Kscope is lynched, you just want him dead is all.

Thats a little more theoretical than my reasoning for voting you instead of FLOC, which is why you were FoSed and FLC was voted.

IH, as far as im aware, i'm one of the few people who cottonned onto the reason K-Scope was under such heavy suspicion. Of course i care WHY K-Scope is lynched-reason being, he is scum who slipped up. But you are right on one score, i am a little lost with the last couple pages, so if someone could rationally explain why the pressure is off Scope, please do so. (preferably MoS).

BM

[Battle Mage]

Wow, people aren't paying attention. Blight, BM, we're not lynching Ksc0pe. He got his CD from the shop he runs, and he made himself bear bear, because he's the winemaker. YagamiLight has confirmed that the winemaker is the only place to get bear bear. This doesn't preclude the two of them from running a risky scum gambit, but we're not lynching him today.

Ok. what about Kilroy?

[Battle Mage]

uhh...I'm not seeing why there yagami.I'm incline to agree with IH and ibby, and will go ahead and

Vote Kinetic

I dont see it either. lol

[Battle Mage]

ah yes, i didnt actually notice them till now.

Who picked up Survivor?

[Battle Mage]

Let's see who's on this list... OMFG MOS AND BM are there!!!11!!!111!!one

Look, the two players so adamantly pushing the item claim,

even though, like, the rest of the town did

havn't claimed. No, No one's scum alarms are going off.

Something is up. And if I'm the only one who notices it, something is definitely wrong.

I agree 100%. I think MOS and BM should claim before anyone else does.

err. I never supported everyone item claiming. In fact, i directly opposed the mass-item claim, once we had gleaned sufficient information from a few claims. The reason i opposed further claims, was simply because, i downright refuse to claim myself.
Suffice to say, you can work out what i have from the rest of the claims.

Also

Vote: Fritz

he knows why.

[Battle Mage]

Also

Vote: Fritz

he knows why.

no i don't

ok let me do a timeline for you:

Someone (IH perhaps) suggests that we claim the items which we need to complete our role pm thing.

I say that i need the Survivor DVD to complete mine.

You then come along, and not only make a deliberate attempt to get that DVD from Kilroy, but also attempt to lynch him, in an aim to cost everyone that item.

BM

[Battle Mage]

Also

Vote: Fritz

he knows why.

no i don't

ok let me do a timeline for you:

Someone (IH perhaps) suggests that we claim the items which we need to complete our role pm thing.

I say that i need the Survivor DVD to complete mine.

You then come along, and not only make a deliberate attempt to get that DVD from Kilroy, but also attempt to lynch him, in an aim to cost everyone that item.

BM

i figured one of us could get the item if he died

is that how it works?


@Mariyta-you should know by now that you should always explain your actions-especially if there is no obvious reason behind them-as is often true of you.

BM

[Battle Mage]

[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]:: goodposting by Mariyta ::[/quote]

are you even playing this game?
if so, would you care to explain Mariyta's reasoning on his behalf, as you are so quick to support her assuations.

[Battle Mage]

[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]Didn't you want me to die this whole game? Or did you forget already?[/quote]

so you are on default OMGUS mode?
right...

[Battle Mage]

lol :p

[Battle Mage]

See? It's so blatantly obvious that you're scum, I don't need to do any more work. You've really stepped in it this time.

rofl. You say that in every game we share, until i claim a confirmable role, and then we see Mariyta-backtracking. I wouldnt want to prevent you from fulfilling an opportunity to make an ass of yourself.

suffice to say i have a fair few items. Hence i dont particularly want to claim, because i'll be a prime target for NK.

Might claim specifics tomorrow-we'll see how it goes.

BM

[Battle Mage]

Alright. So let me get this straight.

1) You have a "fair few items" you don't want to claim, basically for the reasons I outlined, even though you've been pushing others to claim all day.

2) You also want the Survivor DVD.

3) Even under pressure you want to try and hide and say you "might" tell us why if we don't lynch you today.

WTF BM?


Claim all your items now, or die scum hoarder.

Or maybe claim your items now and die scum hoarder anyway.

its this sort of logic which makes me claiming pretty pointless. As i have already said-if you genuinely want to know what i have, you can simply work it out from what hasnt already been claimed. I'll hook out the pm tomorrow, when i have more time, if i havent been lynched by then.

BM

[Battle Mage]

well i own a bookshop if that helps, so i got a book of some description. lol

[Battle Mage]

Hence i dont particularly want to claim, because i'll be a prime target for NK.

This is strange. I cant imagine how you see an item and thnk that it would turn you into a prime target.

well i own a bookshop if that helps, so i got a book of some description. lol

You are giving the scum plenty of information that wasnt asked of you. Saying that you were holding a book is different from saying that you own a bookshop. There are many places to get books, but not so many bookstores. Now if they have book goals - they could form some sort of plan to deal with you.

lol that doesnt give scum much information atall. Frankly if i am NKed over owning some crappy books, i'll be very surprised.
I'll just go and hook out my list of inventory now.

BM

[Battle Mage]

ah its not as bad as i thought. I only have 3 items atm.

Textbooks (from ma shop)
Chocolate Chip Cookies
Messenger

But i weally weally want the Survivor DVD. :p

[Battle Mage]

[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]BM, why are you not dead yet?[/quote]

I blame you.

[Battle Mage]

ah its not as bad as i thought. I only have 3 items atm.

Textbooks (from ma shop)
Chocolate Chip Cookies
Messenger

But i weally weally want the Survivor DVD. :p

BM, how did you get the cookies and messenger?

I picked them up a little while into the game. Call me a hoarder but i wanted to get as many items as possible, without filling all my slots, as items=info.

BM

[Battle Mage]

[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"][quote="Battle Mage"][quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]BM, why are you not dead yet?[/quote]

I blame you.[/quote]Am I voting you? I think I am...[/quote]

ah but your mindless spam distracts from any possible case you could have against me. You obviously dont genuinely want me to be lynched, otherwise you would be trying.

FoS: K-Scope

[Battle Mage]

[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]I didn't try in Ready Salted, where I was town and you were scum. Pretty OMGUS....[/quote]

exactly. thats what im saying. You had me pegged there from the start (regardless of whether you

really

believed it or not). Yet because your comments were so consistently OMGUSsy and unenthusiastic, nobody paid attention, and it was thanks to you that i managed to survive to endgame-because it was down to you that no case on me ever gained the credibility it should have.

Now, i'd have expected you to have learnt from this. You aren't going to get me lynched just by saying i am scum. I'd wager that if you GENUINELY felt i was scum, you would be trying a hella lot harder to make a case on me. Hell, if RSM is anything to go by, your suspicions on me were purely gut-you could make a case out of fluff if you felt strongly enough.

But you havent done this. Instead, you've made the same mistake as in RSM (though in this case i am town obv). There are really 2 possible motives for this play by you. Either you are scum and you know i am town. You dont want to push me too hard so it reflects badly on you later.
On the other hand, it could be because you arent actually that confident that i am scum. You'd love it if i was, but in reality, you just arent sure. If this is true i highly reccommend that you do a reread objectively, and see whether you can either confirm that i am scum, or see someone scummier.

At the moment i feel your comments towards me are primarily based on OMGUS and general bad feeling at being under heavy pressure, partially as a result of my comments.

Anyway, thats my diagnosis. Hope it helps.

BM

[Battle Mage]

Sorry for the absence. Something came up.

I have confirmed that I am currently holding naught and only a Survivor DVD. I sent in the pick-up on Mon Sep 03, 2007, 10:37 pm PST.

would it be wrong of me to ask whether the Survivor DVD is essential to your bonus list of items?

[Battle Mage]

...lame...

[Battle Mage]

KineticGut concurs.

the 3rd person in a chain of agreement is always scum. Plus the comment MoS highlighted didnt show you in the best of lights. :p

Vote: Kinetic

[Battle Mage]

this exceptionally fast wagon smells like a bus. I think if Kilroy was town, there'd be at least 1 scumbag trying to distance from the wagon...

[Battle Mage]

I'd like a vote count before I vote.

same here.

[Battle Mage]

ok

Unvote, Vote: Kilroy

for now.

[Battle Mage]

YAUS

[Battle Mage]

HoS: Kinetic

. Person C votes are not cool.

[Battle Mage]

HoS: Kinetic

for inconsistency.

[Battle Mage]

FOS:BattleMage

for not understanding what inconsistency means as my actions have been consistent through the entire game, unlike his own.

thats OMGUS and poor logic rolled into one. Even if what you are saying was true, i dont see why my alleged lack of reading comprehension would be scummy. You seem to be on default OMGUS mode.
Tomorrow i'll show quotes of your slip-up. Tonight i'm paying for my internet time, so i really cba. lol

[Battle Mage]

Its not OMGUS BattleMage, stop using logical fallicies and lying >>.

My position has been completely consistent, I don't think this item claim is a good idea. Then the WAY we were doing the item claim kept changing.

My FOS has nothing to do with you using your HOS on me, it has everything to do with your reasonings for doing so, which were completely false.

You're inconsistent and hypocritical. How is that poor logic?

rofl. just, rofl. Methinks the lady doth protest too much. :p
If i have to compromise my beliefs to satiate info-greedy scum, the least you can do is join me. I also eagerly await your explanation for disregarding my reasoning for suspecting you, before i even tell you it. LMFAO!

Unvote, Vote: Kinetic

assuming we arent on a deadline, this is a better play.

[Battle Mage]

Alright. So let me get this straight.

1) You have a "fair few items" you don't want to claim, basically for the reasons I outlined, even though you've been pushing others to claim all day.

2) You also want the Survivor DVD.

3) Even under pressure you want to try and hide and say you "might" tell us why if we don't lynch you today.

WTF BM?


Claim all your items now, or die scum hoarder.

Or maybe claim your items now and die scum hoarder anyway.

This is the example of Kinetic inconsistency. He seems to force upon everyone a facade of not wanting a mass-claim, but in fact, he is very willing to push for other people to claim when it suits him. It seems that his motivations are truly selfish, and hence, he is probably scum.

FoS: Mariyta

for outright not paying attention, and defence of scum.

also

FoS: MoS

every time i see you lead the town, you seem to turn up scum (recently anyway). Plus its way out of character for you to defend me. :p

[Battle Mage]

This is the example of Kinetic inconsistency. He seems to force upon everyone a facade of not wanting a mass-claim,

but in fact, he is very willing to push for other people to claim when it suits him.

It seems that his motivations are truly selfish, and hence, he is probably scum.

Do you realize how completely and utterly hypocritical that bolded statement is? You are being insanely inconsistent and just wrong. I really am quite amazed.

don't lie. You have such a low opinion of me, nothing i do can amaze you. But seriously, the way you are bandying the word 'consistency' about like its going out of fashion, is hilariously scummy.

Scum: Mariyta, Kinetic

[Battle Mage]

nice try. Unfortunately you can't disregard the facts that easily here.

Much as you deny it, it was highly hypocritical for you to fight so strongly against the mass-claim, yet when SOMEBODY ELSE showed signs of coming around to your way of thinking, your stance changed.

Yep, i was (and still am) hoarding items. By that i mean, getting as many items as possible. Again, this is a null tell. EVERYONE in the game should try to get as many items as possible, because scum want to get as many items as they can to prevent the town getting them, and the town should strive to get as many items as they can, to stop the scum getting them. Using that logic as reasoning behind a vote is unbelievably stupid.

I must ask you honestly-have you been reading the game? because your comments dont seem to tie in with someone who has been following and wants to genuinely portray the facts as they are.

I think i'd rather be killed myself than kill Kilroy, simply because, once i am dead, hopefully those of you who are protown, will get your arses in gear and start thinking for yourselves. It is often the case that alive, i am a distraction, so please feel free to kill me, IF you are willing to take action against Kinetic when i come up town.

BM

Alright. So let me get this straight.

1) You have a "fair few items" you don't want to claim, basically for the reasons I outlined, even though you've been pushing others to claim all day.

2) You also want the Survivor DVD.

3) Even under pressure you want to try and hide and say you "might" tell us why if we don't lynch you today.

WTF BM?


Claim all your items now, or die scum hoarder.

Or maybe claim your items now and die scum hoarder anyway.

This is the example of Kinetic inconsistency. He seems to force upon everyone a facade of not wanting a mass-claim, but in fact, he is very willing to push for other people to claim when it suits him. It seems that his motivations are truly selfish, and hence, he is probably scum.

FoS: Mariyta

for outright not paying attention, and defence of scum.

also

FoS: MoS

every time i see you lead the town, you seem to turn up scum (recently anyway). Plus its way out of character for you to defend me. :p

Amazingly funny you picked out the post where I was pressuring you BM. So this is all just one big case of OMGUS then? But sure, I'll answer this "accusation".

First: I found it ironic, inconsistent, hypocritical, and completely scummy that you and MOS both PUSHED the item claim, then when you two were asked to claim, this laundry list of excuses came out of why you two shouldn't.

The ONLY two people I pushed to claim were you and MOS because I felt that you two HAD NO CHOICE but to claim in my opinion. So yes, I pushed for the two scummiest players at that point in the game to claim, and honestly, I don't feel bad about it. Neither do I feel I was being inconsistent or hypocritical in my views.

2) You claimed to be hoarding items. That is really scummy in my opinion. Why would you want so many items that you can't lose? The fact that MOS was doing so as well piqued my interest. Scum trying to get items their friends need and then passing them later? No, you saying that and refusing to claim doesn't fly for me.

3) You then say if we don't lynch you today, you MIGHT tell us day 2. That doesn't fucking fly at ALL with me. You don't push everyone to claim, then make up so bad excuse and then back out until you can talk with your scum buddies.

So at that point, if you didn't claim, I was 100% behind lynching you. I'm still not against it, but I think Kilroy is a better play.

[Battle Mage]

you defended me from the accusations made against me. You may have done it in a subtle, less than certain way, but nonetheless it was clearly intentional. Obviously my FoS was merely an FoS-not a vote, because there isnt nearly a strong enough case on you to lynch you. Just making it clear that i am paying attention and wont let even the smallest tell go unnoticed.

also

FoS: MoS

every time i see you lead the town, you seem to turn up scum (recently anyway). Plus its way out of character for you to defend me. :p

That was an interesting reaction. I accuse you of following me around all game and you say I'm defending you? Which game are you playing here?

I can't reference anything specifically, but this isn't the only game where I've led a Day 1 mass claim, and I'm nearly 100% confirmed protown in the other game. Just saying. That doesn't make me protown, but it certainly makes your "you've been scum every time you lead the town" case a bunch of BS.

2) You claimed to be hoarding items. That is really scummy in my opinion. Why would you want so many items that you can't lose? The fact that MOS was doing so as well piqued my interest. Scum trying to get items their friends need and then passing them later? No, you saying that and refusing to claim doesn't fly for me.

Why wouldn't I hoard items? I'm rather suspicious of the people who thought it was in the town's benefit to drop their items where scum can pick them up. I tried to pick up several items

so that scum couldn't get them

. I fail to see how this is scummy. In addition, if I had a hidden agenda behind picking up multiple items, why would I tell you I tried, since I only actually picked up one item. You can argue that I really did forget what items I had, but that debunks the argument that I was stalling my claim on purpose. Can't have it both ways.

[Battle Mage]

Does anyone else think BM has simply snapped at this point? He used to think somewhat logically, but right now, he just seems out of it.

Appeal to Emotion.

@Kinetic-at least i'm not pushing a mislynch. :p

[Battle Mage]

Does anyone else think BM has simply snapped at this point? He used to think somewhat logically, but right now, he just seems out of it.

Appeal to Emotion.

@Kinetic-at least i'm not pushing a mislynch. :p

You know Kilroy is a townie, eh scum? But you are trying to push a mislynch of me, but I don't think you meant that.

Unless you mean yourself, but I'm not voting you.

So do you think i am scum?
because if not, why have you been pushing a BW on me (irrespective of your vote mind)

[Battle Mage]

Scum: Mariyta, Kinetic, AndyCyca

[Battle Mage]

[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]You forgot yourself.[/quote]
lol i'm not scum. In any case, this list is really for after i am dead, so if we have a Vig or something similar, they can eliminate these scumbags.

BM

[Battle Mage]

That entire list is OMGUS and has no basis at all.

erm how do you suppose it is 'entirely OMGUS' when 2 of the 3 people havent voted for me, and 1 of them hasnt even given the slightest indication of suspecting me?

seriously its really starting to pi$$ me off that nobody seems to be able to read for themselves.

[Battle Mage]

Deadline pushed back? >_<

Fine by me. After a re-reread I don't like BM's reactions, but only reactions are not enough for pointing him as scum. What pisses me is this Kilroy thing that doesn't make sense to me. I will say nothing about anyone else right now before thinking decently.

BTW:

Vote: Kilroy

getting confused can be a scumtell. I suffer from it in long games. This is the kinda post i would make as scum. Hence i think Andy could well be mafia.
Mariyta always looks this scummy unfortunately, but this time she is also distorting facts with the help of Kinetic. Stinks of buddying up imo.

[Battle Mage]

erm how do you suppose it is 'entirely OMGUS' when 2 of the 3 people havent voted for me, and 1 of them hasnt even given the slightest indication of suspecting me?

So I need to vote for you in order for your actions to be considered OMGUS, but I don't have to vote you in order to "lead a bandwagon against you". Your words, not mine.

exactly. was that really so hard to get your noggin around?

[Battle Mage]

Much as i agree with MoS here that Kilroy is far from a satisfactory lynch today, i resent the fact that Theo (and probably others) listen to him rather than me, simply because he uses an excess of profanity.

MOS, you keep going off onto these tangets that are very distracting, and while I understand your intentions, I'm happy with my vote and promise to look more closely at Tautology tomorrow.
Granted, Kilroy's been my only vote, but each time we get close to deadline or a bandwagon gets started, there's some new distraction, and I'm starting to feel like you're at the center of it. When I have time to do a re-read, I'll try to verify this cause right now it's just a feeling.

No, fuck that. I'm not going off onto tangents. What fucking tangents have I been on? I went after Kscope before there was even a wagon on Kilroy, that's not a tangent, it was the main bandwagon in the game. I went after Tautology because there is a goddamned good reason to think he is scum, and everyone's like "oh, we can look at him tomorrow!" while he lurks through the rest of the day without having to worry about being lynched, because all his scumbuddies are pushing the Kilroy wagon enough that he's safe. It is

NOT

in the town's best interest to lynch Kilroy right now, and I'm sticking by that. I cannot believe that you people are willing to just sit on that goddamned scumwagon and condemn him to death while there are people that have practically claimed scum and are getting away with it!

Fucking hell...

[Battle Mage]

And what lesson did we learn today children?

If we pitch a fit and act like a complete ass, people will give in and do what we want!! Yay!!

Some would say that MoS's brief spell of out of order behaviour is preferable to constant out of order behaviour throughout the entire game.

[Battle Mage]

And what lesson did we learn today children?

If we pitch a fit and act like a complete ass, people will give in and do what we want!! Yay!!

Some would say that MoS's brief spell of out of order behaviour is preferable to constant out of order behaviour throughout the entire game.

And some say you make logical arguments. Obviously this "some" is often wrong.

why do you insist on breadcrumbing an 'idiocy' PR?

[Battle Mage]

And what lesson did we learn today children?

If we pitch a fit and act like a complete ass, people will give in and do what we want!! Yay!!

Some would say that MoS's brief spell of out of order behaviour is preferable to constant out of order behaviour throughout the entire game.

And some say you make logical arguments. Obviously this "some" is often wrong.

why do you insist on breadcrumbing an 'idiocy' PR?

That's right BM. When you can't attack the argument you attack the person. Bravo!

My motto is "when you can't beat em, join em". So for the rest of the game, i'm going to play down at your level.

[Battle Mage]

this game confuses me. I'd like a claim out of the player who snatched the frigging Survivor DVD, yet again.

[Battle Mage]

?????

• Mafia has More Possessions than Most
  
  A recent study (source unknown) has shown that mafia members tend to accumulate more possessions than the average Freaktown citizen. Results of the study only show numerical data, and it is unknown what the effect will be on the townsfolk.

The papers aren't labled today, so I don't know which one is supposed to be true. However, if the quote above is correct, it would leave me believe that either Battlemage or Master of Sin would be mafia based on their hoarding items yesterday. However, Master of Sin is now dead, so that wipes him off of my list .

vote battlemage

this is what i was getting at. Hence i'd like to know who took the Survivor DVD, in the knowledge that i needed it, and with the supporting evidence of scum hoarders.

BM

[Battle Mage]

oh and it should be noted that there is a 50% chance that that article was written by the Mafia. As such,

Vote: Jex

YA I AM TEH OMGUSSIEST.

[Battle Mage]

ok, i've spoke to the Mod and i'm now slightly less confused, although a little frustrated. In game terms, i dont know where we are. It was a long night, and i cant remember anything of yesterday, so itd be nice if people could re-explain why they find me scummy. :p

BM

[Battle Mage]

who's posts would i be viewing?
viewing mine isnt going to help, because its very hard to look at your own play for scumtells.

BM

[Battle Mage]

can i drop my items during the day?

[Battle Mage]

rofl. I'd just like to point out that this town is thicker than 2 short planks.

SRSLY.

Most of you havent even bothered to pay attention to the game mechanics, so frankly, it aint looking good for us.

Ill probably show up to read some time, but i wont be defending myself against people who are clearly bandwagonning on absolutely appalling logic.

BM

[Battle Mage]

rofl. I'd just like to point out that this town is thicker than 2 short planks.

SRSLY.

Most of you havent even bothered to pay attention to the game mechanics, so frankly, it aint looking good for us.

Ill probably show up to read some time, but i wont be defending myself against people who are clearly bandwagonning on absolutely appalling logic.

BM

Typical BM defense. Full of insults, with no logic to be had. Why don't you get yourself replaced if you're that disinterested?

it was hardly a post designed to be logical. If anything, i was hoping some bright spark would note the didactic tone, and (god forbid) ask what the bad logic i was discussing was.
As for getting myself replaced, i figure getting lynched is about the equivalent, except there are 2 reasons why getting lynched is better than requesting replacement.

1. It would be cruel to force another individual to read the thread, only to find that they were living on borrowed time due to a town who just cba to hunt scum.

2. Replace out of games = victim of flames. I try to only do this when absolutely necessary for the benefit of the game. Of course, i actually have an opinion on this game, which i hope to make clear before i die.

BM

[Battle Mage]

BM:

It would be nice to read a clear direction that an all over the place direction of scum hunting. You have gone back and forth with ideas and haven't really said anything without taking it back.

Saything this I think some people are voting more personal and still think that MOS was right to say that we should have been voting on tautology.

Well here's something i wont be taking back. The reasoning for votes against me because of something published in a newspaper WHICH IS JUST AS LIKELY TO HAVE BEEN WRITTEN BY SCUM, AS IT IS TO CONTAIN

ANY

ELEMENT OF TRUTH, is total bs.

I am still awaiting an answer to the question about whether or not i can drop items?

BM

[Battle Mage]

I'm also still here, stuck in the middle of a re-read. A bunch of junk due amid finals, and I'll probably find time Friday night to get more done.

On the subject of dropping items, that's something you have to do at night. See post 2 under night phase. Is there maybe a rule about scum not being allowed to drop items? /e confusded.

FOS: BattleMage

ofc, because as scum, knowing that town can drop items during the day, and knowing that i have been implicitly told i CAN'T, i'm obviously going to make a massive deal of it, thus proving myself as scum.

that was sarcastic btw.

[Battle Mage]

I think it's safe to assume you cannot, considering it is no where in the rules saying you can.


Farside, while I do admit that I'm happy to vote for BM, my reasoning is more based on his actions yesterday than anything personal.

thats poor logic, not just for the game, but for life.
What exactly did i do yesterday that was scummy?

[Battle Mage]

I think it would be easier to list what you didn't do scummy yesterday.

did i ask you to try to be clever and make a funny?
Please just answer the question.

BM

[Battle Mage]

Your major scum move was forcing/pushing everyone else to claim, then refusing yourself, claiming you never said you would claim. That, my dear, is messed up.

And here's a tip, for the game, as well as for life: when you start getting snotty with people and act like a jerk, they're not going to respond well. You seriously need to change your attitude if you don't want to keep getting lynched every game.

lol have you noticed a pattern yet Mariyta?
Every game we share, you vote for me due to my general attitude towards you on a personal level. Do you genuinely think that is a scumtell?
I dont suppose you've ever heard of the words 'meta-game' before?

I'd like to hear what Jdodge thinks of me atm.

BM

[Battle Mage]

Your major scum move was forcing/pushing everyone else to claim, then refusing yourself, claiming you never said you would claim. That, my dear, is messed up.

And here's a tip, for the game, as well as for life: when you start getting snotty with people and act like a jerk, they're not going to respond well. You seriously need to change your attitude if you don't want to keep getting lynched every game.

lol have you noticed a pattern yet Mariyta?
Every game we share, you vote for me due to my general attitude towards you on a personal level. Do you genuinely think that is a scumtell?
I dont suppose you've ever heard of the words 'meta-game' before?

I'd like to hear what Jdodge thinks of me atm.

BM

You really are ridiculous. It's not just about me. It's the way you treat everyone. You need a serious attitude adjustment. But whatever, keep the blinders on if it makes you feel better about yourself.

For now, I agree with Ibby that BM's actions yesterday may have been just him being a jerk.

Unvote

i'm guessing you have heard of the term 'meta-game', as its the only way i can explain your actions atm. You seem to be going for consistency points, by posting the same thing here as in other games.


BM

[Battle Mage]

Fuck it. I'm not dealing with this shit anymore. It's not worth my time.

Replace me please.

lol :good posting:

am i dead yet?
I'd best claim. I'm vanilla, with a shitload of stuff that doesnt do anything.
WOOT WOOT.

Btw, is it ok if i use this game as a meta-policy against the 'ALWAYS LYNCH BM' meta-policy?

[Battle Mage]

[quote="Mariyta"][quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]No happy birthday for you unless you vote BM [/quote]

I'm voting BM. Where's my Happy Birthday?[/quote]

maybe you should save the celebrations for after my affiliation is revealed.

Is there anything left for me to say before i make my exit?

[Battle Mage]

Yeah, why aren't you voting for tautology?

because Jex is a better play, and also because if i do, Tautology will inevitably OMGUS me, and i'll be die quicker.

BM

[Battle Mage]

Jex's logic was typical scum slip up, using WIFOM, probably discussed at night, in order to validate a vote. So yeh, i'm DAMN happy with my OMGUS atm.

BM

[Battle Mage]

nah, in this case im not gonna self vote. I'd rather not lose the moral highground here, when this goes tits up. lol
Plus it might help the town to force more scumbags to commit to the wagon.

BM

[Battle Mage]

actually

Unvote, Vote: Kinetic

Distancing from a mislynch, with no reasoning for his votes.

BM

[Battle Mage]

I'm still not sure that kilroy was town anyhow.

I could be mistaken, but I find it difficult to believe that there would be no way to determine someone's alignment after they were dead. As it is, we have to wait for the article the following day, which makes things slightly more difficult anyways. Out of the articles given us, I'd be inclined to believe the article containing players' alignments most.

And, BM, wtf? Are you saying that Kinetic is scum for not voting you? Kinetic had a case on taut yesterday, so it's not exactly out of nowhere (ie- reasonless) and he's already said how he feels about you. Distancing from a mislynch? That's just a crazy accusation there, I'm sure it's got to be some type of logical fallacy.

Ibby, not all votes MUST be OMGUS. It is possible for scum to avoid active participation in a townie lynch...
Especially when that lynch is obvious, easy and inevitable.

[Battle Mage]

I am trying to figure out how you see this applying more towards Kinetic's actions than say ... Andy's or the other 10ish people who aren't voting for anyone at all. As I already said, your statement that Kinetic is voting without reason is false.

true, and i did consider voting Andy. But, i seem to recall Kinetic looking scummy earlier here. Read my posts, and you should find out why.

BM

[Battle Mage]

Oh that's interesting, you are suspicious of people pushing for his lynch, but vote me (someone not voting him at all) based on a 'gut feeling'. Not to mention, your own participation in this game has been far less than stellar.

valid point.

[Battle Mage]

BM is still illogically mad at me for calling him out on his hypocrisies day one. His vote of me is not a surprise since I'm part of his "Axis of Evil" from day one, but his unreasonable arguments are just as ludicrous today as it was yesterday.

Although it is true that his inevitability of being a possible lynch did factor into my not voting him, I figure that Taut has a slightly higher likelihood of being scum, assuming MOS and Kilroy are town. Also, since my vote places Taut at 4 votes, to BM's 8, it makes him the only other possible lynch target besides BM before deadline.

I don't understand how BM could say that makes me look scummy, but it sounds like he is saying I'm fixing toward the

too townie

fallacy. But this assumes that he

will

be lynched, will be proven town, and that makes me scummy for trying to push a lynched against his only competitor to be lynched. Sounds like a leap to me, but, this is BM logic we're talking about.

I really don't know if BM is town or scum, but I'm leaning toward him being more likely irrational town then idiotic scum. Although I could be wrong.

Do you play CN?
Anyway, u voting for the second highest target means nothing, seeing as it puts Taut nowhere near contention.

Finally, your final paragraph is totally scummy. You manage to make it seem like you come to a conclusion, when in actuality, you continue to sit on the fence, in order to afford you opportunity to hop on a BM wagon later. Nope, im not buying it.

BM

[Battle Mage]

nope, in case you hadnt realised, im probs gonna die today. As such, id like to at least be able to have the moral highground at endgame by saying, i had scum pegged. And yeh, ur last paragraph was totally scummy. You cant use the old 'Oh my God BM Sucks' argument to ignore the points against you.

BM

[Battle Mage]

nope, in case you hadnt realised, im probs gonna die today. As such, id like to at least be able to have the moral highground at endgame by saying, i had scum pegged. And yeh, ur last paragraph was totally scummy. You cant use the old 'Oh my God BM Sucks' argument to ignore the points against you.

BM

Right. Moral high ground. You don't even know what that means.

Back to square one eh? irrelevant insults. Good going kid.

[Battle Mage]

btw, is battlemage officially the worst mafia player ever? maybe he enjoys the attention but if his intention is to get people to notice him then streaking a soccer match would probably be more interesting. i can buy into different people's play styles but BM just screams "hey, look at me".

-.-

who are you voting for atm?

[Battle Mage]

then please do so.