The War to End All Freaktowns: GAME OVER

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Vote: FlyingFoxBat

because Flying Fox-Bats scare me.

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Holy wagonshifts batman!

don't panic. your buddy K-Scope is still 8 from a lynch.

Sorry. I don't like that statement. It set off all sorts of alarm bells.

Unvote, Vote: BM

Also, what's the point of sharing what items we have? We don't know what any of the items do.

I know there are some people that receive bonuses from certain items, but I can only see that helping scum because they can see who has what and then kill whomever they need to to pick up a certain item. I don't see it helping town at all.

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Although if the scum kill someone, we can try and pick up the items before the scum get them, since we already know what that person had.

But, we don't know what the scum would need to pick up their bonuses.

I think I'm still missing something. How does an item claim help town?

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if we claim it limits the ability of scum to pass items to each other at night.

I actually forgot that items could be traded. I could see how claiming what items we have could limit that. Alright. If everyone else is in favour of this I'm game too.

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Blight, if you could elaborate on what about my post gave you a bad vibe, that'd be good. Just do me a favour and dont suggest that it was WIFOM, because as surprising as it may sound in a game that has so far been taken so seriously by all, i was actually kidding. lol

I guess it's more of a feeling than anything else. I just got a bad feeling from that statement. Usually when someone comes out and suggests two people working together (scum buddies), especially on day 1, it gives me an uneasy feeling. I know it's not a strong case, and you may have been joking, but it gave me an uneasy feeling. That's it.

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I knew that, I wanted to see if he said he had anything for that very reason. After he answered, if he had said no, I would have called him on it. I think all people own shops, as there are 29 locations with items. So if he had said no, then he would have been lying.

Another good reason to item claim.

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Unvote, Vote: K-Scope

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Why?

I dont want to give the scum more information than necessary about who to kill tonight. Claiming a number of items is the equivalent of claiming a power role-and i dont think we need to do that on a day where our lynch choice is already decided.
I, for one, won't be claiming today. However i will claim first tomorrow if that is the will of the town.

BM

I disagree. We don't know what the items do yet. We also don't know if there really is a discrepency in K-Scope's story or if there's something extra that we just don't know. Having everyone else claim would make me feel a lot better about lynching or not lynching K-Scope.

Unvote

And a huge

FOS

towards BM for his unwillingness to claim after pushing others to.

And no, MOS, I didn't give/receive anything to/from anyone.

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I might as well continue the claim. I have Sam's Cola and Painkillers.

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I should have been more specific. I picked up the painkillers.

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Actually they weren't on the list, but there's a list in the items in the back alley, that I'm assuming he dropped when he died.

BUT that means that Blight had something to do with his death last night.

FoS

Actually, it doesn't. It just means I picked up an item that once belonged to a dead guy. As far as I know, there's no way I, or anyone else, could have known what he was carrying before he died.

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Unless the scum are told in advance what items the person they kill has.

That still wouldn't mean that they'd know what item someone had

before

they killed him/her.

It's simple, really. From this:

Day One

After looking around they find the body of scotmany12, the explorer possessed by the ghost of Megan. You notice that the back alley behind a couple of Freaktown businesses has been destroyed. The town checks for any items on scotmany12 and found Painkillers,

they put it in the pile of items on the courthouse lawn.

I saw that painkillers were added to the pile, and I decided to pick them up.

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I don't think the pressure's completely off him. I just want to see everyone claim so that we have more information, rather than go for a lynch when we may not have all the facts.

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Those who haven't item claimed yet:

1. Battle Mage
2. FlyingFoxBat
3. IH
4. JDodge
5. LoudmouthLee
6. MastermindofSin
7. rolandofthewhite
8. soupfly
9. tautology
10. xyzzy

KaleiÐoscøpe, how'd you get your two items?

Kinetic, what item did you drop last night?

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Wow, people aren't paying attention. Blight, BM, we're not lynching Ksc0pe. He got his CD from the shop he runs, and he made himself bear bear, because he's the winemaker. YagamiLight has confirmed that the winemaker is the only place to get bear bear. This doesn't preclude the two of them from running a risky scum gambit, but we're not lynching him today.

I just wanted to hear him say it himself, rather than have others provide the answer for him.

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He did say that he has item goals; he just didn't notice them. BM said the same thing. Although, I'm not sure how they missed it in their PMs.

Vote: Battle Mage

FOS: IH

And before anyone asks, the only reason I'm voting BM rather than IH is because I'd feel better lynching BM.

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I'd object.

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Let's see who's on this list... OMFG MOS AND BM are there!!!11!!!111!!one

Look, the two players so adamantly pushing the item claim,

even though, like, the rest of the town did

havn't claimed. No, No one's scum alarms are going off.

Something is up. And if I'm the only one who notices it, something is definitely wrong.

I agree 100%. I think MOS and BM should claim before anyone else does.

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err. I never supported everyone item claiming. In fact, i directly opposed the mass-item claim, once we had gleaned sufficient information from a few claims. The reason i opposed further claims, was simply because, i downright refuse to claim myself.
Suffice to say, you can work out what i have from the rest of the claims.

We should wait to see if there is any more dissent.

i guess i'd better be the one to speak up. I have to admit, although most of what he says is total BS, Jdodge is right on this. Really we should have the scummiest players claiming first, and realistically, that should be those with largest BW's. As such, that means Scope and Mariyta should be going first.

ooh-Popcorn style claim. I believe MoS suggested that in Mafia 61. sounds fun!

@Albert-such a claim can be useful so that people with items that go well with other items, can find the items they need. Plus it cements people to one story early on. Only issue is that it may reveal role information (who owns which shop etc.)

That's three different occurances where you supported claiming. You decided to stop when you felt K-Scope was a good lynch target (red flag #1 - wanting to lynch someone without all the information; red flag #2 wanting to end the claims before it got to you).

Truth is, K-Scope isn't the primary lynch target anymore. But, now you say that you didn't support a mass-claim because you refuse to claim, yourself (red flag #3).

Here's the deal, you wanted to go scummiest to least scummiest. Well, right now, you're high up there on my list, so go ahead and claim.

You want to do it popcorn-style? Well, I already claimed, and now I'm picking you to go next.

I can't remember where my vote lies, but just in case

Unvote, Vote: BM

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There's a difference between Kinetic opposing the claims throughout and you opposing the claims only before we get to you.

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Hmm. I was wrong. That's five occurances.

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okay, i'm back. got married. surprised that i wasn't replaced. will read through asap.

Congrats!

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I'd be happy lynching Kilroy.

Vote: Kilroy

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Alright. Pressure vote it is.

Unvote, Vote: Roland

Also, has LoudMouthLee/Theoper claimed yet?

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It looks like Raj is looking for a replacement for Xyzzy too.

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Here's the full list:

Mariyta
*Purse
*dropped Blackberries

Soupfly
*Cloth
*dropped staples

K-Scope
*Snoop Dog CD
*unfermented Bear Bear

Blight
*Sam's Cola
*picked up painkillers (from Scotmany12's dead body)

Miss Moo
*Free Call
*picked up Blackberry
*picked up Fish

Ibeasha
*no items
*gave away Full Metal Jacket DBD to Fritzler

Yagamalight
*Nepalm

Kinetic
*No items
*dropped an item

TSS
*Old Truck
*picked up Staples

Mole
*Youtube
*picked up Blockus

Aegor
*No items
*dropped the Instant Messenger

ABR
*No items
*dropped fish

Fritzler
*Full Metal Jacket DBD (from Ibby)
*dropped Blockus

Kilroy
*Picked up Survivor DVD

Faeren Lord of Carlisle
*No items
*dropped Chocolate Chip Cookies

Aimee
*Mail

Flameaxe
*Spam

JDodge
*No items
*dropped purse

IH
*Sourgum

Tautology
*No items

MOS
*Microwave
*picked up Unreal Tournament

BM
*Textbook
*picked up Messenger (picked up)
*picked up Chocolate Chip Cookies

Max
*Magnolia

LML/Theo
*Horsey

Andy (replacing Roldand)
*no items

Stranger
*no items
*dropped cloth

I'm pretty sure it's up to date.

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Does anyone else think BM has simply snapped at this point? He used to think somewhat logically, but right now, he just seems out of it.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure BM has just snapped.

Much as you deny it, it was highly hypocritical for you to fight so strongly against the mass-claim, yet when SOMEBODY ELSE showed signs of coming around to your way of thinking, your stance changed.

When you say it like that, yeah, it sounds hypocritical. But, let's add all the facts in there. First off, it wasn't just "somebody else". It was

you

, someone who was pushing for the item claim

until

it came down to you to claim. Then suddenly you started "coming around". On the other hand, Kinetic was against it, and made it clear that he was against it, from the start. But, even so, he still claimed

before

you, so you you can understand his frustration when suddenly

you

, someone who was advocating the mass claiming, decided you didn't want to claim.

There was nothing hypocritical on his part. He was calling

you

out on

your

hypocrisy.

Unvote, Vote: BM

I think I feel most comfortable with my vote on there.