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Me neither, unless you have some reasons behind this.Cogito Ergo Scum wrote:Anyone up for a Coron lynch?
I really don't think we can read too much into the helpful advice given by thesp, it seemed to me to just be a friendly gesture, although not a very strategic one (for the points brought up afterwards by coron).-
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I put this up before the crash but it must have got lost:
I guess our play style is different: you vote for anything that you can find an angle on, whereas I like to be more cautious in my votes. So far you've...Mojo wrote:The Admiral's play looks fishy to me right now. He always says he doesn't want to lynch, or bandwagon, unless there are reasons.ThAdmiral wrote:
Me neither, unless you have some reasons behind this.Cogito Ergo Scum wrote:Anyone up for a Coron lynch?
All of this would be fine ifThe Admiral wrote:As for a better case than nocmen, maybe not, but without a deadline there's no reason to just accept a half-baked and weak one.hewas trying to get something going by posting some content or suspicions. He's looking for reasons, but doesn't bother to come up with any.
Vote: The Admiral
- voted thesp in the random voting stage
- voted dagger over a joke
- voted for nocmen becuase of a mod error and "mainly because I want to start a bandwagon"
- and now voted me because I haven't voted for anyone yet.
- other than that you've just tried to skip peoples turns and look "helpful" by asking for prods and such.
I suppose you are just putting pressure on these players, and thats fine, but I don't think I've done anything I need to defend.-
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@mojo
As I said I wasn't accusing you of being scummy. You're pressuring people and that is generally a good thing. We just have different play styles. Yes, I haven't come up with many accusations but it is still day one and I truly believe there isn't much to go on for anybody. If I see something I will say it, trust me.
The "helpful" quote, by the way, refers to how scum sometimes try to seem really pro-town by constantly asking for prods etc. while not actually doing anything for the town. I don't really think you're guilty of this, I was just having a dig.-
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@thesp: my three picks.
1. Cogito ergo scum
Is he really playing this game, or just joking around. All he has done is suggest a coron vote and then try and jump on wagons. If he's not scum then he's not a helpful town regardless and is probably the best first day lynch.
2. Coron
Not much going here, but theres the stats thing, which I didn't like, and then the vote for nocmen which he didn't give a reason for.
3. Dagger
This ones more of a gut feeling, but it also has something to do with how he went from arguing with coron to defending him, sort of.-
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Two reasons:Thesp wrote:
Why?ThAdmiral wrote:So now we have to decide who he is to kill tonight, or if indeed that is necessary.FOS: ThAdmiral.
1. the town can have two lynches
2. if he is a serial killer then he would be working for town anyway.
I would be happy if he didn't hit anyone tonight. We don't have any strong leads on anyone and should really only be looking to go for a kill if there's a cop investigation or something really suspicious in the next few days.-
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The fact is if he's working for us, the town, it won't matter if he's a serial killer or not. If, after we've killed all the scum, the game does not end, we know he's an sk and we kill him then.
I don't see how the mafia knowing who he's going to kill helps them anymore than it helps us. Especially if it happens to be one of them who's in his sights!
You'd rather have him shooting wildly, maybe killing our doctor or cop?Don't ask me to provide self meta-
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That was a long night!
I'm disappointed not enough people voted yesterday. We basically gave the scum a free hit. Hopefully we can be on the ball more today. Right now I'm even more suspicious of CES (due to his relentless attacks on coron, town), and since I voted him yesterday...
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I suppose I better give you the benefit of the doubt while we discuss this...
unvote: ces
but I've played in a few games where the mafia have a role-blocker. Just sayin'.
Although...why didn't you block nocmen if you were afraid he might kill you?
question to mod: does a roleblocker block any abilites gained by farkle?-
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I meant the roleblocker in those games was actually mafia, or scum.Cogito Ergo Scum wrote:Actually, almost any mafia's got a roleblocker.
I blocked Coron because I thought he was scum, and because I thought I could block his Farkle ability. I didn't block Nocmen because I wasn't really afraid of being killed.
I think you're metagame-based grudge against coron has had bad consequences on the game for the town, and while part of me wants you to be punished for it, the other part is telling me a role-blocker could come in handy.
I'm just wondering now how many roles there are in this game, and whether a mass claim would be a good thing (note: I am not suggesting it, I am just musing on the prospect of it). I have a feeling that if a lot of us have roles then the mafia will probably have roles as well to balance things, so you are not confirmed in my eyes just yet (that is even if you are telling the truth).-
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This actually makes a lot of sense. I thought you didn't want the town to lead his actions so the mafia would be able to block him/kill him when they thought he was going to be used against them or something.Thesp wrote:I was against the town guiding someone who is likely either a SK or vigilante. In that particular instance, it makes it much more difficult to distinguish between the two if we force him to kill as we see fit.-
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Who do you think is scum, even if it's only a gut feeling or whatever.bertrand wrote:Read.
We don't have a really good case on anyone. Though CES is probably our beat lead, I'n not nearly ready for a lynch. We need to find more things to discuss..
CES's behavior seemed more like silly/strange than scummy. The fact that he's using a gimmick to make himself harder to read doesn't look good to me either. I just don't think it's a strong enough case for a lynch, yet.
I'd like to hear more from a34maniac and Seol.-
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To your b): I was just saying that even though you were still active you didn't vote, as opposed to not voting because you didn't get online. I was just pointing out that you had made a conscious choice not to vote, leading to a no lynch.Dagger wrote:a)I don't vote when I am uncertain (barring early game random vote), unlike scums who I think will vote so that a mislynch will occur.
b)And this is a point against me exactly how? I never abandon a game if I can help it and I always try to be constantly active at the very least.
Now comes the counter question. Why must you exactly leave this type of questioning till tomorrow?
That in itself is not so bad if you were opposed to a ces lynch. But since you voted him inyour first posttoday it means you weren't, and essentially just wasted a day for the town.
I know you arenowagainst a ces lynch, but even there you still haven't provided any reason for this sudden change of heart. (perhaps you thought the easy bandwagon had lost steam so you thought you'd change target?)
To your counter question: I wasn't going to pursue this line of questioning today because to be honest I'm not convinced you're scum. You simply are the best choice (apart from ces) out of a bunch that is hard to get a read on because of the amount of lurkers. I was hoping something would come up overnight that would lead to a stronger case against you or someone else.-
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