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Post Post #31 (isolation #0) » Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:31 pm

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The beard says don't trust the Valinorean...
The dwarf says trust the beard.

Drunkenly RANDOM vote; Tarwhatsyamacallit
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Post Post #52 (isolation #1) » Sun Jun 17, 2007 7:41 am

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NL, if you have suspicions then there is no reason in being cloak and dagger about it. if you are town, then more of us than not are your friends and you have ntohing to hide... if you are, that is...
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Post Post #83 (isolation #2) » Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:00 am

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Elias; Middle of page 2 for a 12 player game is still in the joke vote stage as far as I'm concerned, I did my RV just a couple posts before. This observation in my mind nullifies thy second point too.

Alsleet; Your playstyle is your own, but why hunt rather than prod? For all you know they can't log on and assuming they can't see it you have just wasted a vote for the time being.
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Post Post #86 (isolation #3) » Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:37 am

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Ok, far do's.

Where's Roland for that matter?
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Post Post #111 (isolation #4) » Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:50 am

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This is getting confusing and I haven't got much time to look through.

Votecount please ASAP.

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Post Post #131 (isolation #5) » Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:37 am

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You realise you will almost certainly get NK'd now? We may well not have a doc at all, or a cop for that matter.
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Post Post #223 (isolation #6) » Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:17 am

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Panzerjager wrote:
Unvote, Vote:Khelvaster


I have a stack of reasons but between not paying attention and being a hypocrite I can stick my vote on him comfortably without having to put all my reasons out there yet.
I'd rather see your stack of reasons...

Anyway, generally this game's confusuing me at the moment. As I can't see any way of distinguishing wether Banana's an SK, Scum, or Vig, Panzer please explain why he is so definitely an SK? Surely if he was SK he would try and lie low and not give out details about his NK abilities.

Khelvaster, your pinning that on Tar was idiotic, since Pan was the one pushing for the lynch.

Also, I'm worried about us playing a 12-man game with 9 players. There's a very good chance that one of them is either scum or power role.

Question; How many Power roles do you think we are likely to have in this game?
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Post Post #240 (isolation #7) » Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:05 am

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How is he not listening, so far?

Anyway, what are your other reasons for gunning for Khelvaster?
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Post Post #245 (isolation #8) » Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:52 pm

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Looks good to me... but before I vote him, out of the voters, who thinks we should lynch Khelvaster now? Because pressure is OK, but I have no desire to be responsible for a D1 mislynch.
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Post Post #246 (isolation #9) » Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:54 pm

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Also, HB, I would advise against dicunting the other votes. Perhaps discount he vote of your single no. 1 scum candidate but no others.
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Post Post #253 (isolation #10) » Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:40 am

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Falcone, I've never played in a 12 man game and it's confusing me. I don't actually know about setups, so I don't know how likely it is that we have a cop/vig/doc trio, and so on. If we don't have a doc, for example, there's little point Lynching HB because any decent scum would kill him as an uncountered Power role, thus removing him anyway.

I haven't voiced many suspicions, because I haven't found or thought of anything that would really be of use to town at the moment. I also want to hear from the other players who are either scum protected by their absence or town being as useful as dilapidated treestumps.
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Post Post #259 (isolation #11) » Sun Jun 24, 2007 3:41 am

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I can't find no breadcrumbs...
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Post Post #297 (isolation #12) » Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:14 am

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This is ridiculous,
vote; Khelvaster
until he tells us straight what he's claiming.
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Post Post #301 (isolation #13) » Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:51 am

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The whole 'breadcrumb, ooh, can you find it?' Where's Wally mentality was stupid. Better everyone knows than we don't know how many scum and how many town know.

What do you mean by a me-only filter?
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Post Post #303 (isolation #14) » Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:26 am

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No, sorry, can't find it.

I'll
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anyway. Seriously, this game is confusing me really badly. Sorry I'm being so little use, but it's a steep learning curve for me.
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Post Post #316 (isolation #15) » Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:42 am

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Soo...

I'm vaguely more inclined to beileve pan, but really no idea. I am, however, quite inclined not to make ANY of the claims today's lynch.

Nekka is looking quite odd.

I put forth these two quotes as an example;
For Khel:- Why are you telling us to seek it? If you were near to lynch/in trouble, you wouldn't say... I BREADCRUMBED, GO FIND IT... That would probably be a wild goose chase, and breadcrumbs are for future REFERANCE where you can explain it, or people can find them and say something else to get off your back as they feel you are a power role but don't want to out you.

So, either give up telling us the breadcrumbs and wait till you're nearer lynch, OR come right out and say it.
Well done for blantently telling everyone that it's a cop claim... Due to his post records the first post isn't included because I think it's a /confirm post

Not everyone would have found it, making scum finding it less! And you just happened to tell everyone after I made a DISCREET chat about it to Khel while you told everyone...
This seems somewhat illogical, not necessarily scummy, just rather odd...
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Post Post #317 (isolation #16) » Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:52 am

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My thoughts so far...

Khelv
Looks odd, has been playing rather bandwagonishly, and his claim just got countered, but a 'better safe than sorry' policy may be best here...

Pan
VERY agressive, and now seems quite ready to be allies with HB against khelv where previously he ws pushing for an HB lynch on the grounds that he was an SK.

Nekka
Doesn't look too bad, but a few logic glitches...

Falcone
Seems very slick, and posts content a lot, and seems to be gliding through very smoothly - Fal, can I have a link to any other games, as I want to look at your playstyle more.

HB
Uncountered power role, so not a lynch for today.

Tar
Don't look too bad, waiting on the PBPA of Pan still.

Al
Hasn't posted much, would like to see more content here.
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Post Post #329 (isolation #17) » Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:22 am

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Falcone, what are your thoughts on the Pan/Khelv thing?

Waiting for Rishi and ac to catch up.
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Post Post #331 (isolation #18) » Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:29 am

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I have content I don't want to post until I know EVERYONE's thoughts.
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Post Post #342 (isolation #19) » Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:43 am

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Actually, there are ways that a half-baked opinion or gut feeling that needs everyone's opinions to solidify it (seeing how people interact) would hurt town very badly, as scum could easily pick up on it and use it to our detriment.
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Post Post #347 (isolation #20) » Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:38 am

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Yes, I'm Mason #2, rishi's partner.
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Post Post #348 (isolation #21) » Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:45 am

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Thereby only leaving Falcone, ac1983fan, Elias, N9V, and Tarthingamawhatsit unclaimed.

There are several potential lynches here;

1 - Lynch a claimed mason, either clears or scums their partner, if scum HB goes NK.
2 - Lynch Khelv, if he's the real cop HB NK's Panz.
3 - Lynch HB, though unsure how this tells us anything.
4 - Lynch anyone else, maight tell us stuff but wold be harder to clear up as they haven't made a solid claim.
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Post Post #355 (isolation #22) » Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:55 am

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I don't think we necessarily have scum-town pairs, it may be that one-two pairs are real and one fake, but N9V, you HAVE to out your partner now. We then have just 3 unclaimed players who are most likely all confused town, one masonpair of scum + one of the cop claims.

This makes some sort of sense;
Cop
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Powerscum (possibly scumcop or godfather)
3 confurzled town
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Post Post #401 (isolation #23) » Sat Jun 30, 2007 6:48 pm

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Oh darnit. My whole masonpair?

Goooo TOWN!
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Post Post #461 (isolation #24) » Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:50 am

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Hello once more. I need to log off now, i'll post content and stuff on wednesday at the earliest (in london tomorrow).
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Post Post #469 (isolation #25) » Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:23 am

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My good lord, this is the most powered town ever... if all the claims are true...

I claim Roleblocker.

Hit at Elias N2 and Jenter N1. Will post more tomorrow, have like 10mins access now.
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Post Post #473 (isolation #26) » Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:05 am

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I'm planning to block n9V as I believe he is the scummiest player who has not claimesd a role beneficial to town. i have a couple mins extra access now, btw, but I need to go relatively soon.

And sorry, I meant Alsleet last night, not Elias.

Last scumpossibles;

Tar is obviously scum
n9v looks quite scummy and hasn't claimed any night actions which we may want to risk destroying
Falcone has claimed doc and this is supported by Khelv, so he's basically cleared (and actually the perfect scumtarget unless I hit right)
Alsleet was blocked last night and the kill went through, so he's cleared.
Khelvaster claims to be cop and i think he's right, but if n9v is town he has to be scum.

There's easily the possibility of a scum power role too, which could be godfather, scumcop (if Khelv turns out scum) or even framer.
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Post Post #480 (isolation #27) » Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:41 am

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If there's no death tonight, n9v is scum. If there's a kill, Khelvaster is scum. Simple.
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Post Post #481 (isolation #28) » Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:43 am

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Oh yeah, and Khelvaster, PLEASE check n9v if you're cop.

Oh, and
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Post Post #482 (isolation #29) » Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:47 am

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Tht was also kind of scummy of Alsleet, haamahing before I could have the time at night to type out a decnt post. Got to go now...
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Post Post #484 (isolation #30) » Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:16 am

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True. So who do you think I should block tonight n9v?
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Post Post #495 (isolation #31) » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:07 am

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wtf? I never RBd you!

Who did you investigate?
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Post Post #499 (isolation #32) » Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:42 am

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Khelvaster, I just read through and realised the point of this game is;

a) the mafia have one excellent power role - an RBer mason scum.
b) the town are watered down further by the fact that there is one other role...

I AM A NKer SURVIVOR.

I was RBd (as a shot in the dark I guess) n1, then docced successfully n2. I took out Alsleet last night. n9v (It couldn't have been anyone else) RBd you last night. I would have claimed vig yesterday if Handbanana had not done so earlier and been found SK, people would have called me SK and banwagoned (i.e. I was trying to save my own skin and I picked a relatively common unclaimed role).

The only way for you to win now, Khelvaster, is to lynch n9v so we both win. Town and Survivor....
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Post Post #504 (isolation #33) » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:13 am

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I thought Survivors got Scumkilled if they win with only them and just scum, don't they? I may be confused here as I've never played one before...

If not, sorry, that's what I believed was the case...
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Post Post #514 (isolation #34) » Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:28 am

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question; what is 3-way tie and how does it work? is it like no lynch or what?
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Post Post #516 (isolation #35) » Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:56 am

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I am a Survivor NKer, as I said above. I was RBed n1, doc'd n2. This means there IS an RBer between both of you. I hit at Panzerjaeger n1, and Alsleet both consecutive reamining nights.

I have very little evidence to point to survivorishness due to my previous occupant's lack of posts, but my fakeclaim of RBer was due to my RB n1 (so I knew there WAS an RBer) and my eagerness to.

I'm gonna go with my gut in the end, support Guardian, and
vote; Khelvaster.


This is because a godfather RBer mason scum is too overpowered to consider. RBer scum my tiny wee brain can cope with rather better.
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Post Post #533 (isolation #36) » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:49 am

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Basically there was an verbalanced town with cop, doc, and 2x3 masonpairs. Howeever, when Tarhalindur died and I was the last scum left I got the following PM;
You are The last scum. By this time, you as scum now know how stacked it was against you. However that is about to change. Three things are about to happen. Firstly, You are now innocent to all cop investigations. Secondly, you may choose TWO night kills tonight, and the doctor protection will only have a 50/50 shot of working. Lastly, you have two options. You may either know who the cop is, or who the doc is.
My first scum win, but it was overbalanced towards me, so I'm not really too proud.

Good game, thank you all... especially Guardian. :twisted:
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Post Post #534 (isolation #37) » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:50 am

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I'm still unsure where the heck that RB came from... mod?
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Post Post #546 (isolation #38) » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:14 am

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Holy ****, we won?!

I *knew* there was a reason I bussed myself D3... I bow before your superior endgame skills, Jenter.
I did my best, but the extra NK was what really helped me. I have to say I was quite pleased with the claim. This is also my first ever scum game! w00t!
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Post Post #549 (isolation #39) » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:27 am

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Oh come on then 'sleet... I'll be waiting...
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Post Post #551 (isolation #40) » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:34 am

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Thanks to MNOWAX as well, great modding.
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