New York 180 (Endgame)

[Klingoncelt]

Jared, Acryon, sorry to see you both go.

[Klingoncelt]

Should we lynch their slots?

[pisskop]

Enjoyed this site while it lasted, but an overzealous mod combo'd with ambiguous rules and unequal application has soured it for me.

@Mod: Replace me please.

We're sad to see you go.

Should we lynch their slots?

Why would we lynch either? Im townreading Acryon and Jared has zero content and I think should only be a last resort today.

[House]

Should we lynch their slots?

Whoa wtf?

How does this come from town?

[Aeronaut]

Should we lynch their slots?

Um.....

[T S O]

I feel better voting Klingon than Kitz.

VOTE: Klingoncelt

[T S O]

I don't really know what to make of the Kitz wagon - it certainly sprung up very fast, but wagons on scum can happen fast too.

[SilverWolf]

Enjoyed this site while it lasted, but an overzealous mod combo'd with ambiguous rules and unequal application has soured it for me.

Wow, sorry to hear that acryon

Now we need to replace 3 people.

[SilverWolf]

Should we lynch their slots?

Well, let's see you jumped on Kitz, cast doubt on elusive and now want to lynch 3 inactive slots.

Where you scumreading acryon?

[elusive]

acryon,

Spoiler:

Enjoyed this site while it lasted, but an overzealous mod combo'd with ambiguous rules and unequal application has soured it for me.

@Mod: Replace me please.

ika is a very fair and just (as in tries to help players and not antagonize them) mod and doesn't do things like that so you don't have to leave this game. Also you're the nicest person I met here and you could be an awesome mentor\IC person so you should stay. I would start a protest or something in a thread against the bad Mod and make it known so other people know too.

[elusive]

Isn't it a bit much for a -game noob to jump into a Large? She knows no one, she doesn't even know all the roles.

That is, assuming that she's both Town and

not

an alt.

If she is NoobTown, how much help can she give us as the game progresses?

It all smells a bit fishy to me.

"If she is NoobTown, how much help can she give us as the game progresses?"

So, you want to lynch a noob town Kitz for this reason? I'm trying to figure out where this is coming from or why it would make sense to state this.

Vote: klingoncelt

[Aeronaut]

I'd like KC to explain 976 before anything else happens here.

[Kitz]

Woke up.

Yeah, my lynch is not really going to grant any information. Everyone just jumped on and sheeped.
Other than my total what you see in your point of view as derping, why am I more scum than town? Why am I less town?

As for the argument about wagons going fast even for scum, town wagons should be faster than scum due to scum being reluctant to scum wagons.

Gonna try and wake myself a bit more, having just woken up makes me a bit oddly high. Elusive is town btw for wanting to defend a complete newbie instead of lynching it.

[Aeronaut]

Hey Kitz, why are you still voting a claimed PR?

[dragonspawn]

as for house, his posts have a town vibe.

Why are you refusing to give any sort of reason for your read on me?

If you think I'm town enough to townread me, there should be more behind it than "vibe".

From the sounds of your posts, I should be a null/town at best to you.

Because I don't think scum would care about horses at all. Especially not to mention it.

I suppose it is theoretically possible. But I see no reason to seriously consider it day 1 with so many better choices out there.

I would have thought you'd realize why I wasn't saying anything

[Kitz]

Hey Kitz, why are you still voting a claimed PR?

Because I derped on my initial unvote.
UNVOTE:

But seriously, with how quick the wagon became, it raises the red flag that at least one or two scums are in it.

[dragonspawn]

House, it's right here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=58830

Stated by TSO regarding you, "Him keeping his options open should have been a scumtell but there were a lot of weird dynamics in this LyLo which made it kinda acceptable to do."

Also, what are your reads other then dragonspawn? Do you have any? What are your thoughts on all of the active players so far? Concrete thoughts such as lean town, lean scum or null. Not the wishy washy stuff.

So your basic is a completely different game?

Why shouldn't options be kept open day 1?

[dragonspawn]

Tell me to do something. I'm a follower at heart, and I crave a sense of direction amid the chaos.

Do you have any solid reads on anyone yet?

Townreads, yes. And because of [redacted], I honestly feel it's enough, at least for now.

But if you want scumreads, you'll have to direct me to a scummy player and I'll consult the gods.

What do you think of elusive so far?

[elusive]

He already stated what he thinks pretty clearly, are you reading the thread?

[elusive]

Oh and if you're keeping options open then you shouldn't pretend to be all actively doing stuff, that's not keeping options open that's seeming like you're all busy when you're not.

House, orange is my least favorite color. Surprise. All the other colors are so nice though. I guess it could be threat level purple.

[dragonspawn]

If the claims are true Kitz has got the shittiest towncred.

Elaborate please

[dragonspawn]

Meh, I can't read Kitz.

Get out of here. You couldn't read me either yet didn't hesitate in calling me scum. Place your vote on Kitz.

And you can't read me. This is obv confirmed town Boonskiies. Keep day Kitz vote.

Confirmed town by who?

[SilverWolf]

KItz has bad pushes and a weak ISO, if that's where town wants to go, that's fine but 976 pinged my scumdar so hard, the neighbors were wondering where that noise was coming from.

Seriously, "let's lynch three spots because they aren't here to defend themselves" is ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww....................................scummy as shit.

VOTE: klingoncelt

[dragonspawn]

Kitz, are you an alt?

Aeronaut, from what I can tell Kitz only has two or so games on this site so unless she's an alt, she is a newbie and some of her questions were the same kinds that I had. I can think of townie mindsets for what she's thinking. Wondering about the setup is a real thing, the only reason I haven't asked more questions is because of fearing of giving too much away.

I get that Rampage's little Russian Roulette game may glean some dividends but I haven't seen it work yet. I've also never been in a game (in my probably short history) where scum died from a day one lynch. Do people have stats on it (ABR's success rate of scum lynches)

I'd rather see people go after a strong player and see what happens or reactions from that. Therefore, my vote on House. Maybe I'll switch to Wake or one of the other Boss type Pokemon.

And yes if I had to choose, I would choose to lynch a lurker most times because from my brief experience they become a thorn in the side. Also usually newb scum heavy lurks.

I don't like your last line, "cool wagon," doesn't equal "wagon on scum."

So normally you would lynch a lurker. We have a wagon on kits who has been lurking as well as other lurkers to choose from but instead you want to go for "stronger" players now such as house just to see reaction?

That seems like a convenient justification to your vote after several tries of not explaining it at all.

vote elusive

Too many hoops to jump through in the reasoning here. Too must justification.

[dragonspawn]

Should we lynch their slots?

What?? Was there something crummy about either?