New York 180 (Endgame)

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VOTE: Grib
Because we have (expired on 2015-02-22 00:00:00) till deadline

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gotta make this count

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Old man: Look! A smart aleck!
Woman: But is he scum?
Guy with hat: quite possibly I'd say.
Guy with swollen lymph node: Aaaahhh


pisskop and vikingfan's RVs are the scummiest thus far, imo

VOTE: vikingfan

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I don't like this kitz bastard.

Anyone who sounds like a candy bar cannot be trusted.

Policylynchalicious

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ABR up in this bitch?

Spoiler: sheeeeiit

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Vote: pisskop

What made you vote pisskop here?

does he need a reason in random vote?

I've played with him before and he has a very specific way of playing, meaning he probably voted him for a reason.

Hello scum.
VOTE: acryon

You want ABR to give you a reason to stay on pisskop so you don't have to pretend to scumhunt. Gotcha!

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Biggest flaw in towngames:
People tend to sheep me when I'm meh-, and ignore me when I'm passionate about a scumread. Which means I'm doing something wrong because it should be the other way around.

Biggest flaw in scumgames:
Endgaming is not my forte. I lack stamina because I have to wear an itchy townsuit and my balls start to sweat.

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You want ABR to give you a reason to stay on pisskop so you don't have to pretend to scumhunt. Gotcha!

You nailed it.

YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWW!!!

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Wake, Why not ask Grib straight out why he's townreading acryon or finds Boon suspicious?

^town

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Meta is perfect for how it has been used up to this point, i.e. generating discussion. But Kitz is exhibiting townish paranoia. Which leads me to my second townread and I don't usually townread at all, but I'll give it a try this game.

Scumread on elusive and acryon atm.

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Btw at this point I'm getting a scum vibe from shinobi and Viking. Town for wolf and wake. Null for everyone else so far.

Scum/town vibe absent any reasoning makes me think YOU are scum. Care to explain where the 'vibes' are coming from?

This is a little off. You think someone is scum because their

gut

reads don't have reasoning?

Do you still think Shinobi is most likely scum at this point?

This was pretty good, you're vigilante. It won't be easy to lynch you if you are indeed scum.

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P-edit *vigilant

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actually EBWOP not P-edit

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It's interesting because I see what you're saying but you're also removing kind of an aspect of the game that remains as a record. I mean votes are also done for reactions.

However, since you aren't voting - what do you plan to do - just scum hunt until you're ready?

Fight the PEER PRESSURE TO DO STUFF.

It's kind of scary.

This is a towny post.

Why is it towny?

It feels genuine. He's confused by Wake's stance and trying to understand it, not manipulating it.

There's not much to understand here. It looks more like shelter for scum to blend in easily to me.

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It looks like elusive is trying to blend in, using the 'why doesn't wake vote yet' discussion as a means to fake investment

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You did it too here:

can buy that, but the answer isn't to withdraw from the game. Otherwise, why play at all?

By turning into a passive participant, you're also depriving town of your abilities. When players are aware of your capabilities and not seeing it, that can come across as scum play.

Is it possible you're scum?

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You insinuate I have a beef with your read. I don't like that.

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I don't think so.

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You should be more careful

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Mhhh. I like your reaching argument. Why did you back off so quickly in favor of a satirical vote

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You should be more careful

If you think I'm scum, this post is the height of irony.

After all, telling a person you believe could be scum to be careful would lead town to draw associatives between us if I actually

flipped

scum (hurray for you, no danger of that).

That said, i can't see scum fucking up like this because there is zero benefit in it for them if/when I flip.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Mhhh. I like your reaching argument. Why did you back off so quickly in favor of a satirical vote

Because I don't like liars, especially when I have firsthand knowledge that is contrary to the stated lie.

Ok, but one should differentiate between a lie and what seemed to be obviously not serious. Maybe I should coach you about obviousness, I attained the rank of captain after all.

What about the DS's OMGUSsy-smelling post?

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Why wasn' tit vote-worthy?

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You were already voting for me.

That's also not even close to what I said

Oh house

It was precisely what you said.

If SW had changed her posting style after the discussion, you'd probably have a point, but I was referring to her posting style before the discussion about her, so you're just being disingenuous.

DS=dragonspawn nvm.

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Idk why I quoted that^

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dragonspawn, what answer do you expect from 436? The only way it's valid is if he and Grib are scumpartners and other scum didn't vote Grib... rather unlikely.

I want some sort of explanation. It doesn't make sense. Because as you said it is unlikely. Hence why I'm asking. I can't get an understanding of what's going on in vikings head if I don't ask questions on things that bother me can I?

Now why does it bother you that I'm asking him about his statement?

This is a defensive response.

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VOTE: dragonspawn

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Why does that make him scum instead of insecure?

I wouldn't know what to do with that notion.

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It makes him scum because he himself listed defensiveness as a possible scumtell. Along with that OMGUSy post we've got ourselves a good Day1 lynch.

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@vikingfan are you lynchbait?

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(Psst: dragonspawn is certifiable lynchbain. Hence my reluctance to join his wagon despite my own interest in voting for him)

Atm viking looks more like lynchbait to me.

It makes him scum because he himself listed defensiveness as a possible scumtell. Along with that OMGUSy post we've got ourselves a good Day1 lynch.

where did I list defensiveness as a scum tell?

#398 At least that's how I read it in context.

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(Psst: dragonspawn is certifiable lynchbain. Hence my reluctance to join his wagon despite my own interest in voting for him)

Atm viking looks more like lynchbait to me.

It makes him scum because he himself listed defensiveness as a possible scumtell. Along with that OMGUSy post we've got ourselves a good Day1 lynch.

where did I list defensiveness as a scum tell?

#398 At least that's how I read it in context.

And yet I haven't made a determination in either direction whether boon is scum or town so how can it be a scum tell in context?

Do you think defensiveness is a towntell?

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(Psst: dragonspawn is certifiable lynchbain. Hence my reluctance to join his wagon despite my own interest in voting for him)

Atm viking looks more like lynchbait to me.

It makes him scum because he himself listed defensiveness as a possible scumtell. Along with that OMGUSy post we've got ourselves a good Day1 lynch.

where did I list defensiveness as a scum tell?

#398 At least that's how I read it in context.

And yet I haven't made a determination in either direction whether boon is scum or town so how can it be a scum tell in context?

Do you think defensiveness is a towntell?

Do you think you should have nailed down his stance on that

before

your vote?

Not at all. I'm being disingenuous with that question, in the sense that I'm not seeking information but rather showcasing how obviously unnecessary it is.

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Hmm, or he should be tunneled relentlessly because enigma's are meant to be unwrapped.

Fuck that UNVOTE: dragonspawn
Now here's a mystery I'd unwrap and tunnel up the ass
VOTE: ilusive

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@mod:

My vote is on elusive

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Yeah House seems to be making a good case for lynching viking

What about it constitutes a good case?
What do you think of elusive?

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and I'm starting to wonder about NakedJogger and his motives.

Hey, I'm no enigma. Ain't wrapped up and don't wish to be relentlessly tunneled up the ass either, so just back off brah.

@elusive I called vikingfan lynchbait because it looks like we're lynching the guy due to being too lazy to look for someone else. It sets a bad precedent for this game, it's stalling discussion right now (which you seem to enjoy very much) and there's no info to be salvaged if he flips town, despite what others may have said.

@all I suggest we keep him (viking) and monitor his progress. He's an oldschool player and might have interesting perspectives on future developments if he shakes off the dust.

I sure as hell don't like people screaming "counterwagon, COUNTERWAGON! OMG SAVE THE WOMEN AND CHILDREN!?!" before we have a flip to put it in context. Scumhunting by statistical votedynamic is for the birds, we need to look for scummy posts and dragon seems to have a clandestine few, while viking is null. Tripping on something strong but null.

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^Was there a point to that mother of all posts other than to fake a townslip?

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NJ, I don't know. You tell me...

You want me to tell you?

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NJ, lol that was funny. Which Spice Girl are you? I like V, she sounds like a classy lady.

V is a maneater. I'm the naked jogger, and I really really really want to lynch-a-lynch yaaah.

Mainly because of the topics you've picked out for yourself, like Wake's issues with voting and who called who lynchbait. I can't detect any urgency to prioritize alignment indicative data in your posting and your sole excuse for your existence in this game seems to be that you're pushing lurkers. You want everyone to know how aware you are of everything that's going on because you think that will get you cred, when it just contours the lack of stance you are taking in a game that has stuff going on.

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You need to stop hugging the fence if you wanna get with me gurll and start calling people scum and providing some valid argumentation. You're far away from playing like you expect to be NK-ed by scum with your leaning-town with ABR in it lol, and need-to-be-pressured pile. I suggest you either come up with reasons to justify a scumread on someone or you don't mention them at all.

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You don't well then get lynched biatch

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^I second that

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I'm new to this site. First time I'm playing a Large Normal I get a scum role. It's pregame and I'm chatting to my scumbuddies in the QT when all of a sudden the QT gets locked because Day1 begins. And I'm like .. hmm that's a little odd. So I browse the wiki and turns out scum need an encryptor to daytalk which we don't have.

The game goes swell for quite a while, I'm just coasting voting some lurkers and propagating the fluff. But then I get ran up by this naked jogger dude who's obviously this godlike stud I can't hope to get with unless I play my cards perfectly. I'll play hard to get or else he'll think I'm a slut, but anyway. I began writing this big ass post consisting of a useless resume because I had to be careful not to actually say anything that can be used against me when all of a sudden I remembered the encryptor. I realized I could use it to fake a townslip and hide it in my huge ass post to make it look natural. A little this and that, acting clumsy and voila.. ready to submit. 7 minutes later:

^Was there a point to that mother of all posts other than to fake a townslip?

I knew I had to find him, get my brains fucked out and bear his perfect child.

True story
elusive

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vikingfan - major town derpage or scum slip derpage and then trying to cover up by "feigning ignorance?" - Would his scum buddies try to coach him to stop being so derpscum? Would he ask his scum buddies questions about RVS in their chat topic? viking, you should try out somew newbie games.

vikingfan, it's interesting to see you posting like a real player now, are you being coached or?

She's actually asking him if he's getting coached how fucking ridiculous. Because mafia will go like yeah sure I'm getting coached by my scumbuddies.
Obvscum obvfaking a townslip and obvrubbing it in our face for the second, third or forth time now. Don't be fooled.

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I'm suspicious of viking's alleged lack of creativity to come up with at least something vague or encrypted enough to be a safe crumb, but other than that it looks legit until someone CCs.

I guess the other thing for town to do is to narrow down 3-5 people for vikingfan to check and he choose from those? 3-5 so that scum don't know for sure.

The cop makes his/her own choice on who to investigate, however requests are often made by other players. For example: Viking, could you please investigate SilverWolf so we can check your sanity?

He's sane. It's a normal game.

Roles which are explicitly Normal include:
Vanilla Townie,

Sane Cop

, Doctor, Vigilante, Roleblocker, Mason, Innocent Child, Jailkeeper, Tracker, Watcher, Gunsmith, Miller, Bodyguard, Role Cop, Doublevoter, Hider, Neighbor, Neighborizer, Jack of All Trades, Serial Killer, Mafia Encryptor, Mafia Strongman, Mafia Goon, Mafia Traitor, Mafia Godfather, Mafia-aligned or SK-aligned versions of above roles

Roles which are explicitly Non-Normal include:

Non-Sane Cop

, Blank Vig, Non-Sane or Quack Doctor, Janitor, Survivor, Lyncher, Cultist, Jester, Mafia Mason, Bus Driver, Lightning Rod, Nexus, Redirector, Framer.

Normal games

can include

1-2 non-normal roles.

I don't think they can include explicitly non-normal ones; only new/variants.

@Grib Son, you better start scumhunting or something because I'm going to lynch your ass off if you don't

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If the claims are true Kitz has got the shittiest towncred.

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VOTE: Kitz

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Too many question marks joining Kitz, giving scum the opportunity to blend innocuously into the wagon.

I have to think.

Unvote

I'm aware of this nuisance. Lynching Kitz would be lackluster information-wise. Why do you people have to sheep me when I'm meh?

I'd rather see people go after a strong player and see what happens or reactions from that. Therefore, my vote on House. Maybe I'll switch to Wake or one of the other Boss type Pokemon.

And yes if I had to choose, I would choose to lynch a lurker most times because from my brief experience they become a thorn in the side. Also usually newb scum heavy lurks.

These two statements oppose each other. Unrelated to that I thought you had a townread on Wake. House is a good vote but your estimated lack of commitment to it is scummy.

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He can't see cuz he's got these green lights where his eyes should be.

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Aeronaut is there a difference between how much thought you put into a post depending on alignment?

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One of these voters are definitely scum.

Which one?

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I don't think scum would've suggested to policy lynch replacees like Klingon did unless she was getting bored.

Your game is off, House. You're nitpicky and boring.

So why Kitz, boringHouse?

I've never known him to be so oddly nitpicky and boring before.

hmm. SW, did Klingon's responses alleviate or aggravate your scumread on her?

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Should we lynch their slots?

One of the scummiest thing I have ever seen. WTH.

VOTE: Klingoncelt

Elusive can wait till tomorrow.

Looks like an attempt to distance yourself from elusive. I wonder when you're going to start bussing

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unvote

well, that is a change of pace.

One post that has not sat well with me thus far:

Grib, I've interacted with many people who are not lurking.

My lean towns so far were: Wake (who I would maybe sheep if he were not V\LA), SilverWolf (already stated in thread), acryon, FA_Q2, Aeronaut, Rampage (idk maybe), Celt,

My Need to Be Pressured Pile is: Naked Jogger, Cheetory, Boonskiies, Croboss\Replace, Jared615, House, TSO
I voted Ramapage in RVS and stayed because he hasn't done the thing he does quite yet.
I voted Jared615 because of the post I quoted + TSO defending him + I hate lurkers which is my meta in general.

My I Have No Clue Pile is: Everyone else

Also, you didn't answer my like thrice repeated question? Are you a townie green ninja shadow cat?

NJ, hmm...different people play different ways. This is my playstyle. I disagree with your read of it and also your sacrilege against Victoria Beckham who even if she was a maneater which is in itself relevant, is legit status.

I'm also still waiting your tunnel....or I guess 1 vs. 1 whichever or both they are.

A lot of people are reading elusive as town but I really do not get that. This post reads like randomly tossing out reads to seem town. He is reading me as town and really there is little reason to do so considering the limited posting that I have been able to do (and then states he hates lurkers). I think that thus far he is the ONLY player to do so. @elusive - why are you reading me as town?

Vote: Elusive

(and yes, I just scum read someone because they town read me...)

This is exactly how I wouldn't start a justification for voting a scumspect: saying that a lot of people are town reading it. Also getting the gender wrong would discredit my read further.

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Dragon stays alive today.

For the children

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Nope. Those reads haven't been argumented and the rest is

can we all unvote kitz thanks

Why?

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Mass claiming is a bad idea. Scum already have power roles to target and this is going to be a long game. Best to not give them ample targets and choice in this manner.

I already don't like the way we got our second claim, it was uncalled for and very anti-town.

that is the towniest post you've given so far.

Why?

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Why can't I call out on someone for doing mass one-liners, mass sheeping, bad sheepherding,et cetera?

I assume this is the true reason I'm actually being voted on.

Sounds like a strawman unless someone can confirm voting you for these reasons.

I'm a bit annoyed that some things I pointed out are completely ignored.

Like what?

You're probably going to nitpick things with Meta, I'm in general bad at pushing, and I dare say that other players who find these scummy stuff can be more "trusted" due to not being a newbie which lowers my motivation to do so.

So you do know why one might scumread you: not finding scummy stuff. You use the newbie card as excuse. Scummy scummy.

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Mass claiming is a bad idea. Scum already have power roles to target and this is going to be a long game. Best to not give them ample targets and choice in this manner.

I already don't like the way we got our second claim, it was uncalled for and very anti-town.

that is the towniest post you've given so far.

Why?

Because it's a townie response. And because the rest of his posts have questionable townienes

I don't think it is. Nobody was going to mass claim so wining about the claims doesn't seem town to me. Also he hasn't posted for a while and this is the catchup post he's bringing to the table?

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EBWOP to be fair he has posted. I retract that last sentence.

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I am now part of this game.

Fucking brilliant entrance

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Can someone explain the Klingon case?

The Klingon case is something you want us to invest in so we get swayed to vote Klingon instead of you and your obvscumfuck buddies.

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UNVOTE:

I like Kitz's last post and agree with her townreads (although they'd be more accurate if I were on it, just sayin').

What exactly do you like about it. The AtE, the strawman, the newbie card play or the fact that she hasn't provided any argumentation for her reads?

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Can someone explain the Klingon case?

The Klingon case is something you want us to invest in so we get swayed to vote Klingon instead of you and your obvscumfuck buddies.

Mm, probably not. I don't want kling lynched. I was confused when I saw the wagon was as big as it was.

So you and Klingon are buddies then and wanted to defend her by showcasing how weak the case is. Either one of those two or you're too lazy to investigate. Great benefits await if you flip scum and you flipping town would be an insignificant loss under these circumstances.

@Grib You liked Kitz's menstrual rant about meta? Bullshit.

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Aeronaut is there a difference between how much thought you put into a post depending on alignment?

Not particularly, or at least I don't think so. Moreso, it changed with confidence; When I'm pretty confident I'm right, I tend to make shorter trollier posts, and when I'm less confident I tend to stay more on topic and be more analytical.

I find it oddly meticulous that you conceived the answer and copied it, wrote and posted the question, pasted the answer, topped it off with a nonchalant remark:

Ok. Let's generate discussion

@Everyone: what's the biggest flaw in your towngame? Your scumgame?

For me as town, I tend second guess myself too much; I always assume I'm wrong and vote with the crowd, when I should have gone with my gut.

As scum, I have a lot of trouble when the game gets that awkward point where the only scummy people are the ones aligned with you; I usually freak out and choke, and then get lynched. It's a vicious cycle.

Anyone who's played a game with me can vouch for that.

I mean, I guess that's a pretty big flaw

Describe your state of mind when you wrote this.

pisskop, NakedJogger is being a really antagonistic brat. Do you have any concerns about this?

NakedJogger, I suggest you try a modicum of civility. This dbag shtick might have worked for you in other games but stop trying to overcompensate.

I'm overcompensating for the lack of clothes and bequest of fucks about your suggestions. Never have I made a derogatory comment directed at anything other than playstyle in discord with the higher good of delineating the rift between townie and scummy behavior.


@ SW 1076, please.

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VOTE: Boonskiies

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VOTE: elusive VOTE: Boonskies VOTE: elusive

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VOTE: Kitz

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NJ, I'm not irritated with you anymore today. However, you ignored our attempt to wagon you, and that is odd.

Of course I did. I'm not going to waste cyberspace on something as pointless and unwarranted as your votes on yours truly.

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I was voting Kitz all along

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Oh and I will quit trolling now. I was trying to see if NAkedJogger would take the bait and try to vote Kitz and it worked

VOTE: MathBlade
LAL

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I mean 10 minutes ago

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obviously

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VOTE: Kitz

I am town so this is the 3rd time Kitz is voting town (if the claims are true, which is probable) without any solid reasoning or scumhunting involved. Her response to pressure was terribad and we need to lynch her today in order to avoid being labeled as idiots.

Read #1089 and #1124

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What the fuck is it with you and lying? I don't claim knowledge of their alignment I said it's probable they wouldn't fake claim information roles when all we have to do is wait it out and we'll know if they're bullshitting.

What do you mean your alignment?

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I'd lynch Kitz, elusive, Boon, FA and dragonspawn in that order.

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Or policy lynch Math who is null

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Then again acryon was kind of scummy

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NakedJogger, you should stop this "Tunneling". Ignoring parts of posts, nitpicking by splitting stuff and your excuse to lynch me is shit.
The excuse you got is, that because I have voted a lot of "Town", it makes me Scum.

Hypocrite? Day 1, no one is proven to be town, and there's a lot of others who have voted a lot of different "Town".
This logic overall makes you more scummy.

If town were to play like you did then it would be pretty hard yes. But town provide reasons to vote, they investigate alignment indicative issues and don't fall into AtE and excuses when pressured. You are the best lynch for today, no need to take it personal. If you are town you now know what where you should improve.

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I'm here.

I've read the thread. How can I be of service?

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C'mon don't be shy.

Activity was booming for a while now, no need to act like the police are coming.

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I'm probably not going to do that, sorry.

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unvote

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Doing an iso of Grib.

Catching up now! Yay.

Summarize anything important I should know, otherwise I'll vote and fail to give adequate reads because too many players.

Meaning you can give adequate reads based on someone's summary. Naive town or scum testing the waters.

peeks into thread

sees Cop claim

screams

Some of you have fucking long ISOs that are 50% nonsense. I have a few townreads but a ton of nulls.

VOTE: Jared

Sheeping a PR.

That was a beautiful story, but elusive is town.

Says he peeks into the thread. Hardcore defends elusive 5 minutes later. Maybe I'm the one most suited to bitch about meta.

His #853 suggests he can play this game but is unwilling unless someone point him towards something.

#884, 886, 889 3 whiteknighting-ABR posts

This post really bothers me. For one, I'm not really a fan of the "If I were scum" approach to things. It reads to me like you're trying to make us believe scum would do the opposite of what you're doing.

The second thing is that you're literally asking us for our opinions before taking any sort of stance. That's just as bad as what Kitz did above, really.

Or that's just me trying to explain how I'm feeling w/r/t the game. I don't expect you to take my word for it, nor will I fault you for being suspicious, but at least this way it can't be said I didn't tell you so.

I'm asking to be pointed in a general direction so I know where to direct my focus. I'm trying to get engaged in what's going on currently rather than hanging around in the past, because being in a perpetual state of catching up annoys me and makes me not want to play.

"Tell me who you're scumreading so I can piggyback"

Is there any evidence to suggest I've been piggybacking, or are you just looking for an easy attack?

And why not pressure me yourself instead of FoS'ing me and hopping on the popular wagon?

AtE. Still claims to be in a perpetual state of catching up. Is accusing Aeronaut of not FoS'ing in the same post where he answers to Aeronauts questioning, preemptively defensive.

UNVOTE:

I like Kitz's last post and agree with her townreads (although they'd be more accurate if I were on it, just sayin').

Unvotes Kitz for ranting about meta. This is where I'm getting annoyed. Not only did he use pure meta to block my pressure on ellusive but goes along with the Kitz pressure and just sabotages it from within this time. Scum motivation: defend scum or get townreads from targets. Town motivation: ?

Is he annoying, or scum?

Tells a player known to troll that he's annoying. When did that ever turn out well?

UNVOTE:

I like Kitz's last post and agree with her townreads (although they'd be more accurate if I were on it, just sayin').

What exactly do you like about it. The AtE, the strawman, the newbie card play or the fact that she hasn't provided any argumentation for her reads?

- I think it's a fair rant.
- I've seen strawman tossed around in so many games. Elaborate or it's just a buzzword.
- I'm meh on the newbie card.
- You didn't read the last paragraph. If you ask her for reasons and she ignores you, then I'll concede this point.

He lectures me about the last paragraph, suggesting he read it thoroughly, but calls my argument a buzzword, wants me to elaborate.

Spoiler: I've said what I had to say

Why can't I call out on someone for doing mass one-liners, mass sheeping, bad sheepherding,et cetera?

I assume this is the true reason I'm actually being voted on.

Sounds like a strawman unless someone can confirm voting you for these reasons.

He acts like me saying Kitz gave a fake reason for being voted that she can easily combat, i.e.: mass one-liners, mass sheeping, bad sheepherding, etc. needs further explanation.

VOTE: Grib

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Okay.

These posts just felt a little off.

Elusive said something about feeling which broke the ice. Now scum feel free to list feelings as reasons.

All in all 1248, 1250, 1255, 1259, [quote="In 1263 are 5 posts about Math's shit. Because it's hard enough to keep track of the thread.

Replaces out. Thinks he's a genius at playing scum.
What are you going to do about it?

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Oh wow, so go after the guy who asked for replace? Being fluffy and defending people he thinks to be town are part of Grib's meta.

You on the other hand have contributed nothing. Again, going for an easy target.

And Grib,

How can he think someone is town if he's not reading the game?

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LOl aight,

We have 7 hours left

VOTE: Grib
Because we have (expired on 2015-02-22 00:00:00) till deadline

I suggest everyone who know they can get in here 3 hours before and around lynch time: Vote for who you think is scummiest now. 3 Hours before deadline vote for one of the leading wagons and around lynch time consolidate the lynch.

I'm off.

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VOTE: Klingon

Lights out bitchees.

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Voice message from NJ

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Looks like both vikingfan and ABR are mafia.

Doc getting shot makes me think elusive is softfakeclaiming scum in #777 (Dr. Watson)

I told you pisskop's and viking's RV were scummy.

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What do you mean math?

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Questions such as?

I'm not able to differentiate which one is scummier at this time. One claims he's an idiot and the other claims the improbable if not impossible.

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I think vikingfan is a town cop and telling the truth, but I am okay with his death and will probably hammer him if he reaches L-1.

Finally, you have literally NO GROUND WHATSOEVER to accuse me of anything when you are openly posting this.

Was this meant to be posted in the Scum QT or something?

If scum have an Encryptor this statement might be a slip.

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You double agent of slip.

I still don't see a need to lynch viking today. ABR got any other scumreads?

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Ellie is probably scum.

I'm not sure scum would post this:

It's like if I were to say I was a doctor or something. No one would really have any reason to believe it, and a CC at this point would be stupid.

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I still think Kitz and Grib/goodmorning should be scum together. Grib probably saw how weak the case on Kitz was and he jumped on it for safe distancing. Then when there was real reason to scumread Kitz he jumped off, diffusing the pressure. When called out for it he listed up some scummy rubbish.

VOTE: goodmorning

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@NJ: And why are we doing associatives before flips again?

You don't seem to mind Kitz doing it. Why is that?

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Put a fork in it Kitz and tell me why any of what I did was scummy or stfu.

@dragon I didn't look at pisskop's voting habits yet but good pointer.

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Put a fork in it Kitz and tell me why any of what I did was scummy or stfu.

@dragon I didn't look at pisskop's voting habits yet but good pointer.

Maybe you should. I rather think it was opportunistic which is why I'm leaning town on kitz now.

@wake are you going to wade into discussion today or just watch? I'd like your opinion on the Viking matter

pisskop talked about elusive too much for his vote on Kitz to be a serious one. Then he did switch his vote to elusive when the Kitz wagon was at its peak. No, I don't think pisskop's posts and votes disprove my theory of Kitz and Grib/goodmorning being scum along with him.

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Good morning troll

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Wasn't there a rule against not voting for an entire day?

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Why was Grib obvious town? Was he too scummy to be scum or what?

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@NakedJogger -- Going to contribute anything useful???

I'm trying to find out what's the reasoning behind a player townreading my main scumread.

When are you going to make a post worth giving a shit about?

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ABR is incredibly town this game, I will never ever support a lynch on him. I am not sure how correct his views on vikingfan are. I do not think I'll be voting him today. Scum could just sort that issue out by killing him for us, or he could make himself useful and give us a result. I highly doubt scum have a second way of result-stopping. If possible, me or ABR would be good targets, so we can get on with crushing scum. Maybe gm too. My favourite option is me because I'd ideally like to trap Ellie and MathBlade in a corner and observe as their jokeread on me is dispelled.

But then again, Ellie will probably die in the noose today, so it's not actually that necessary he checks me - do whatever you want, vf.

ABR is town? WOOowowoowW. How did we get here? You yourself have voiced frustration with the pointless vf discussion and whatnot, now you want to townread the guy who gave that shit propellers and made it fly and eclipse the sun?

How very very weird.

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The Boonski murder was also out of place. I do not see breadcrumbing of his role, and he was acting obnoxious enough to be a scapegoat, not a free kill.

Thereby, I propose the suggestion of that our suspects are Experienced Players who know another player's Meta, using it in cross referrence to themselves to deduce who's a PR and not.
Possibility : they figured ABR wasn't a Tracker and that Boon was a Doctor.

It's like if I were to say I was a doctor or something. No one would really have any reason to believe it, and a CC at this point would be stupid.

^ That's quite a stretch to kill.
Someone would have to know how to read him. In context of the situation, it was quite sarcastically and now ironic.

Boon wasn't at all impressed with the main wagons, rightly so because both were on town. He crumbed his role. He was probably on to scum (elusive, dragonspawn) .. what more do you want?

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At this point, I would like for everyone to vote for one of me, ellie and vikingfan.

The reason I don't like your candidates is because if we wait one day we'll know for sure about vikingfan and more about you by association. Ellie could be a programed mislynch judging by how Boon was scumreading her towards the end of day1.

You've effectively crippled discussion with your insistence on this topic and I'm going to do the opposite of what you're saying and ignore you.

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And just on scroll back, MathBlade I never know what you are doing or why and unless you are jester or wanting to pretend to be jester I just do not get it.

Yeah but why do you care enough to address it?

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Why can't you PM her compliments or something then. Why do you need to shit up the thread with your useless comment? Would you say your circle brown-nosing you've got going on is pro-town? Why?

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Also this time I can say for certain she's wrong about the one she's been tunneling throughout the whole game.

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Yeah DS should be scum

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more like nj vs half the fucking players list

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I think the vikingfan lynch is valuable for the read potential it has. I'm willing to go ahead and VOTE: vikingfan.

You can pretend to know he is scum. The only downside of letting him live another day is if he's got a useful scum PR. Other than that we can just be like "hey look, scum has posted something, how cute" every time he posts. Come on it'll be fun.

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GM, considering that NakedJogger was the counterwagon to now obviously town, what do you think?

My question was rather serious. How beneficial do you think it is for town for a group of players to act like you, ellie, math, SW, Grib/GM, Kitz?
I don't mind townblocks but all of you are scummy as fuck so look at the elephant in the room and ask yourself what you are doing if you are town.

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@Ozgin Info.

@viking talk more.

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We've been through this and the question sucks. The legit question is if scum intended to roleblock viking, why did they also attempt to nighkill him. The only possible answer is there are 3 antitown factions: the mafia, the werewolves and the SK. Mafia blocked viking and NK-ed Boon, the werewolves NK-ed viking while the SK wasted pisskop. An alternative scenario would be the SK attempted to kill viking while the werewolves offed pisskop. How is this not boring yet?

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VOTE: viking

Fuck it, this is never going to stop.

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No mang, there can be mafia and there can be werewolf, a mafia flip will be regular looking while werewolf flip would probably be yellow. There were two kills and viking claims he was saved so 3 shots in total from 3 antitown factions.. supposedly.

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or swap SK with vig .. same shit.

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roleblock + NK works with veterans only.

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I've pretty much decided I will have to play here as an alt since people just say "Ignore MathBlade" and it's crept over from my home site at remarkable speed.

Can you imagine that you've said this in one way or another for at least 4 times already? I can't even begin to explain how profoundly nobody gives a shit. I'm usually not the one to talk for anyone but myself but seriously, nobody cares. 0.

As I have said on D1 and continually with associations on D2, VF and NJ are likely together. NJ wants the VF tunnel to stop but realizes it probably won't so throws his vote on it while trying to convince us not to vote it AT THE SAME TIME.

I'm telling you VF and NJ likely scum together.

Is that really what I want, because I thought I wanted you, ABR and some others to stop taking shits on the thread so people can actually read it and maybe, god forbid, hunt some scum. Which means this is the 3rd time you are LYING! STFU if you can't construct a case without lying about it. Find someone else to tunnel.

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Quote where I'm complaining about the VF tunnel not ending

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@elusive if you call me maniac one more time I'll go apeshit on your ass.

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Oh so your definition of maniacal behavior is leaving voice recordings. I thought was assuming some sort of intelligence but guess not. Oh and hammering someone who could be scum is also much more maniacal than waiting for an overturn on what I know for a fact to be town. Right. Carry on dummy

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Quote where I'm complaining about the VF tunnel not ending

VOTE: viking

Fuck it, this is never going to stop.

@NakedJogger -- Done. Quoted as asked.

That's where I give in to the prospect that alignment-indicative discussion is impossible as long as vf is alive. Where do I say anything about vf getting tunneled. Why would I say that when I've said at the beginning of day2 that he is almost certainly scum. Are you and elusive the same person? Did you know that playing with more than 1 account in the same game is against the rules and an extreme dickmove?

Why do you say I'm scum? Why don't you say anything about the wagon that popped up on me for no reason whatsoever and almost got me lynched. If I were going to get lynched you'd have a day1 wagon with nobody to scrutinize because all anyone came up with was "hhhmmmm I think his push on Kitz seemed kind of like .. off or something". What do you have to say for yourself?

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What about being too stupid to post with the right account. I think it's just weird, weird and .. uhhm weird! AHA!

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It perturbs me that when I post valid, factual arguments that then it's "Ignore MathBlade" or "MathBlade is cheating"............*wants to go in to uber troll mode and smash the thread*

Oh, how unexpectedly this came up again. Impossible for me to take you seriously now.

Anyone who accuses me of cheating with no proof deserves to die

I was asking you, not accusing you. You are a confirmed pathological liar and vk is funny.

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The emotional reactions are overwrought to a degree that I don't understand unless NJ has some serious issues with females in particular which then need to be addressed by OOG things.

Nah, I make fun of stupidity that's all. Then stupidity puffs up and acts ridiculous and I'm trying to laugh but I'm actually sad. Why does stupidity have to exist, not to mention be defended and promoted. It's all so 1984 that I'm actually scared because it's way more powerful than intelligence, to be honest.

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Getting Wake on board will do nothing, you need 10 to lynch and you're asking one. It's not happening. Why do you think NJ is town given his scummy play yesterday? and i have likewise responded in a nonpersonal way.

What was scummy about my play yesterday, scummyboy?

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Getting Wake on board will do nothing, you need 10 to lynch and you're asking one. It's not happening. Why do you think NJ is town given his scummy play yesterday? and i have likewise responded in a nonpersonal way.

What was scummy about my play yesterday, scummyboy?

Mind explaining your sudden hammer of kc yesterday, for starters? and I liked 1984.

NO! You explain to me what was scummy about it. Go

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That's pretty obvious. But is it ok to ask someone if he/she is cheating, because that's the relevant issue here. Because that's what I did, not even seriously just to point out in a derogatory fashion how similar, in a bad way, their playstyle to that of another player is.

Whatever, vk, still waiting ..

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So this is how you're explaining to me and everyone in this game why my hammer was scummy:" town was going well but then you hammered and town .. it couldn't do anything.. WHAT WAS TOWN TO DO?!"

Dude. Why was my hammer more likely to come from scum than town. Do try again.

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@Ellie That would spare me quite a lot of enjoyment. Also, don't defend stupidity; People who call me scum have to come up with reasons to do so before I have to do anything, not the other way around. And I believe I've already explained it to none other than elusive who has asked me that same question twice ever since despite.

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Ok I retract my words and replace them with this: Elusive and Math, if you would hydra together I wouldn't know which head is posting what.

Viking, I'm waiting to be amused cmon.

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@Ellie That would spare me quite a lot of enjoyment. Also, don't defend stupidity; People who call me scum have to come up with reasons to do so before I have to do anything, not the other way around. And I believe I've already explained it to none other than elusive who has asked me that same question twice ever since despite.

The reason you needed to hammer is because enough people thought you were scummy to have a good chance of lynching you. That was before the hammer. Then rather than, say, explain your reads, you acted in an extremely survivalistic manner. It is not surprising people think you are scummy.

Why won't you let scum talk for himself?

Y U NO let me have my fun? Survivalistic yes, but only because I knew my alignment and Klingon's was elusive. My reads were clear to anyone with the ability to click and read my iso. Giving a testament readslist works like hypnosis and it makes people want to autovote you so I scumhunted instead. The people who didn't appreciate that or passed it off as going for the easy, "town" (because meta, derp) target or whatever get extra scumpoints. If awesomeness would've been in close proximity people would've started sheeping me and we would've lynched Grib and he most likely would've flipped scum.

Then we would've laughed at elusive and her idiotic "coward!!!" mantras. That was like a fucking exorcism, I mean that woman is crazy, for real.

It is surprising that people started voting me despite me doing my best as town to catch scum. I still haven't received an explanation for being scumread by most of the people who voted/planned to vote me.

Math for example supposedly scumread me for not giving a shit about her bumblebee-up-the ass display. Some other dudes said my push on Kitz was forced. I felt responsible for that push and I think it was a great fucking push reaction-test wise and it resulted in Kitz giving an obvscum response to it; and if either one of Kitz or Grib are scum it's hands down the best piece of scumhunting done day 1.
Then all of a sudden it fell apart and blew up in my face. I know now that pisskop had a part to play in that and I believe Grib did too.

I was almost at a point where I wanted to ask people to just assume I'm town and tell me what I could've done better. But then I realized that I had been playing extremely well, maybe a bit too much aggro flavor, so why would I ask for advice from people who failed to tell.

I believe Pisskop was buddying me, trying to get my attention while he was bussing two of his buddies who were pretty much guaranteed not to get lynched. (It's called distancing, elusive.. illogical my ass). He probably figured I wasn't going to get lynched either but he must've hoped it, because Klingon had already claimed and my lynch was the juicier one. Therefore it's fair to assume every scum except pisskop and viking, who is all but confscum) was or was trying to get on my wagon yesterday.

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People voting NJ for cheating accusations are being stupid. That is not alignment indicative, and you're voteparking

That's a reasonable assessment of the situation except I didn't accuse anyone of shit.

It's pretty likely that ABR is just scum trying to lead a lynch on a claimed cop, to be honest. I'm not planning on sailing on the ship today.

In what universe does ABR being scum make vk town? They're both scum, yo.

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That would be pretty nice. But you're probably scum too.

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Sure, I'm obvtown and obvscum tried to wagon me yesterday for no reason

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ABR, if VF flips town cop are you willing to be the quick lynch next day? I don't mean like arbitrary "saying it for the sake of saying it," I mean really since you seem 100% sure and unless you were town cop or actually a PR you're insistence is to be believed why.

^

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I say we go for viking first, ABR is more entertaining than viking.

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ABR, you the man :popcorn

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And I would bet my life that Ellie is scum, just like boons bet his life Ellie was scum and was murdered for it.

Scum be that obvious, boo?

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Oh, and who were you trying to investigate again?

It was shinobi.

TSO, what's your read on Shinobi? Casually asking.

Shinobi is town.

There is no crumb. GM asked viking who he investigated and ABR answered shinobi for him. Then Kitz asked ABR about his read on Shinobi and he said town.

People, we are giving scummy ABR what he wants. Let's just stop posting while we're winning. Lynch viking now, ABR later or vice-versa before we have to quarantine dozens of pages of this thread due to unreadability.

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before we have to quarantine dozens of pages of this thread due to unreadability.

TOO LATE

Why would you want to lynch viking first given how weak ABR's claim is and how little sense TSO is making over it?

Because it's nothing compared to how ridiculous viking's fuckup of a claim is.

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But I still think you're town because that shitty retarded gambit is what you would do as town.

You shouldn't have done it.

proof pls

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MathBlade, if you remember Elusive was a Cat but Scum thought she was a Bat or made of Gold. Elusive is not a Kitty Cat, it is a Bird.

I'm getting itchy balls from your shit

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Either scum with a special role or some kind of sk\third party\jester?

VOTE: elusive

Policy lynch

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Naked jogger

joker443

: Lean Scum. He doesn't really seem to be paying close attention to the game, and is just kind of voting with the wind. That D1 hammer was also gross.

Elaborate on that.

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just get a fucking lynch I'm sick of this game

It's not going to get any better if we don't lynch elusive and math out of it.

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Thank God.
VOTE: elusive

Policy lynch

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unvote]

Alright JK, wtf. Jeez, did scum cheat us out of our sense of humor as well, cmon. What's the case on me anyway? Derptroll's tunnelvision doesn't make me scum. Pisskop obvdefense doesn't make me scum. I was on the viking wagon so fucking what.. that claim was improbable at best. I hammered Klingon, who could've been scum, so I don't have to die and leave no useful information behind, since nobody really cared to argument their vote.

This is the time to let bygones be bygones and lynch some scum. As for defending myself anyone want any questions answered I'm all ears.

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Mathblade was killed, she was a vengeful townie

Looks like people regardless of faction wanted Math out of this game asap, including 2 out of vig/SK/werewolf. Funny shit right thurr.

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Maybe scum were like this is too ezpz. Let's give them a chance and cap the troll. Oh wait no, they're gonna lynch NJ next.. oh well, at least the thought came to mind.

Vig was like ABR was indeed tracker claiming to have followed Math, I can kill 2 birds with one stone if I cap dat troll

SK/Werewolf were worried about the size of the thread and capped her for the convenience of not having to read so much fucking bullshit.

Either way, thank you guys.

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Vote: NakedJogger

Does anyone want to lynch this guy?

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Vote: NakedJogger

Does anyone want to lynch this guy?

Wow. Anything other erudite commentary you want to make?
NJ has spent two days being sociopathic at best.

Alright stop talking to me, you are pissing the shit off of me

Spoiler: NSFW

and have been doing so consecutively for you past 100 posts.

Town has some self hatred issues it needs to work through.

Town,
Who are your top 2 scum reads today and why?
Who were you voting yesterday and why?

Ty.

Have you got any idea how fucking dumb this sounds? Town this town that. Coward Scum stop picking on little ol Grib. People are trying to think here ffs and your posts are notorious for chiseling off IQ points

Kiyz,it's possible that vig if there is one has three shots but wants to be sure and also its possible second non consec doc is doing okay and finally its possible mafia are targeting an night kill immune sk who can only be lynched.

Unlikely. Math is dead to get a lynch on me or TSO rolling. We need to start using our brains people and if elusive stops talking to me I will succeed I promise.

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VOTE: good morning

the more I think about her the more nor my instincts tell me she is boasting scum.

add to that that I didn't like the slot prior to her subbing in, it just feels right.

elusive my second choice is NJ.

I'm also little annoyed with wake this game. He hammers Viking out of the blue. Isn't answering alot of questions and now wants out because town is lying. We wouldn't be Herod not for his bad play

Scum cocking his slingshot back .. he knows goodmorning won't get any traction and he'll wind up lynching me. Fucking disgusting.

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I'd be willing to compromise on NJ, but it'd be one of those sad "I don't actually feel strongly about this" compromise votes.
I feel really really good about TSO scum right now.
The way he's reacting to people feels like he's trying to discredit anyone who's giving any possible credence to the idea of him being scum right now. I actually kind of also remember that kind of reaction to people earlier in the game as well. Might take a look for that when I dive Shinobi/TSO interactions.

Silver, what's making you lean town on TSO?
Do you disagree that his transitioned read on ABR is ridiculously sketchy?

I'll look over what you wrote about him in context and in detail when I have more time but this is mostly a feeling of frustrated town I get from him because a lot of his frustrations/annoyances are pretty much in line with what I'm thinking.

His transition on ABR was interesting lets say. I think because I pretty much agree'd with that lynch, I didn't think much of it. I also don't have good meta on TSO so I guess I need to look into that more as well if I try to flesh out this read some.

This smells like scum chatting with scum to consolidate a town-town lynch spectrum.

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@dragon-Can you elaborate on why you think GM is a gloating scum? Why is voting for you gloating?

And this is scum helping scum ease off scum.
Presto.

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pedit-Yes GM on a couple issues, also I've seen your towngame once and you seemed like you didn't really want to get involved in the game at all and although I haven't played with you as scum, my understanding is you are more involved as scum than as town.

Can you elaborate on this? I've played with her as scum and I came to the exact opposite conclusion.

pedit-Yes GM on a couple issues, also I've seen your towngame once and you seemed like you didn't really want to get involved in the game at all and although I haven't played with you as scum, my understanding is you are more involved as scum than as town.

Can you elaborate on this? I've played with her as scum and I came to the exact opposite conclusion.

Very first game I played here with her she was town and was scumread by almost everyone for her lack of participation in the game. She kept saying she didn't want anyone sheeping her because she was the IC but she didn't vote, her reads were not in depth, and she avoiding making too many comments at least D1. After that she was out as a PR and I don't remember what happened.

When I did some meta on her in that game, this was awhile ago so my memory isn't crystal clear, we are talking my first game here, I noticed she did a lot more in here scum games then she was doing in that game.

But if you've seen a more recent scum game of hers, that could of changed. I should re-meta her at any rate.

Scummy. Why? Because when a dude asks you a simple question you don't write 3 paragraphs and close it with 'I should re-meta because everything I've said is proabably bullshit'

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NakedJogger just isn't trying in general.

If any of Kitz or Grib are scum I'm a genius and was doing my most sexy work day1.
Fuck it I'm not going to enumerate all the townie things I've done. I'm just going to say it's not fair to say I'm not trying when there wasn't anything to try with Math and elusive bashing my every post. Who the fuck can siphon the strength to overpower a waterfall of stupid shit using mere logic, reason and common sense? I can't I'm sorry. I'm no masochist

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It was brought to me that NJ has made a very borderline post. I decided to take it to listmods and see if there was any site rules broken (the video). There was not.

HOWEVER, the video in question is not only severely insulting but also highly inappropriate (i don't care that it has the NSFW tag, if I'm at work i need to be able to see everything). Then add in the comments that were being directed were insulting a player (this is FMPOV as well) and not their play.

I am 100% aware of insulting a players play is used as a start, but when you get to a point stating that their positing is lowing IQ, thats not insulting play, thats insulting player. I normally never do mod kills (unless its extreme) but with all the issues going on in this game as well as how insults have been going on in many other places, I am just cutting all the crap and just removing the slot entirely.

I didn't post those things. It was pussy mouth. She was supposed to deliver this message. Anyway, gl and sorry for the trouble.

PS: Lol @ Aeronaut