New York 180 (Endgame)

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VOTE: T S O

I thought we had a moment in Masquerade, bruh...:'(

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It's because wake is a house alt

It (The House who's user name is House) say's its not an alt or I think that's against the rules or something unless its a hydra I guess? Then though they wouldn't have separate accounts, would they?

Also, Cheetory6's programming thing is kind of funny. If I have time I will try to debug

They are different people, completely unrelated. I've met House. People just get him confused with Wake, so it's funny to say he's a Wake alt.

Also, this playerlist! I like it!

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VOTE: FA Q 2

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@T S O - You're right...damn it! We had a moment. BoonS O for life!

@House - Very excited to finally be in an online game with you. Major reason I decided to /in this game.

I am behind a few pages...I think. I skimmed. I'm starting to want to vote Aero. But I'm just used to his SK play, and I always have a hidden paranoia he's some kind of scum. I'm actually most comfortable right now putting my vote on him.

VOTE: Aeronaut

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No, that's why I have the paranoia. I'm voting you because you're my best bet at a scum read right now. It's day 1, page 10, in a large normal. You have absolutely no need to get defensive over my vote on you which will most likely switch within the next two pages.

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FoS: Dragon

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VOTE: dragon

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Yeah, we're probably masons.

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You're scummy, opportunistic, and full of fluff. What else do I need on page 16 of a large normal?

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I suppose that's possible, I found more meaning in the content of his post than the subject of it.

you are being way too friendly this game house.

fos

Looks like the Viking wagon id picking up.

As he is one of my gut scum reads at the moment in going to jump on

and see if more pressure will shake something free from him.

VOTE: viking

This is really scummy to me. You felt the need to defend your gut read instead of trying to explain why it could possibly be a gut read?

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@Ika-mod-pirate-thing

Unvote: Aeronaut

VOTE: Dragon

Haha.

double check VC i had you moved....

~ika

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Man, that's a town tell from a boon.

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Of course, I could just be the counter wagon because I annoy people

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VOTE: vikingfan

You have a lot of naked votes. What was this one for?

especially the buddying with SilverWolf extremely interesting and have noted it for future reference in future days

What do you mean? In this same quote you mentioned listing scumreads, but don't go into detail about Silverwolf or TSO. Are you scumreading TSO?

VOTE: acryon

I think I'm just going to switch. I haven't forgotten about TSO but his filter is better than acryon's.

>Agrees with boon on dragonspawn.
>Scumread on dragonspawn disappears based on nothing.
>Summarizes useless information for no reason.

I am happy with my vote.

Oh. I was going to ask what made you vote Acryon. I can see that.

I'm one of the notorious USMB Liberals. I never miss an election. I simply brain farted and forgot to vote for Viking.

Your liberal tendencies aside :b, what is your opinion of House?

I completely agree with this analysis. vikingfan's lynch would be most informative because if he flips scum, we can look at the votes on dragon's wagon like Aero and pisskop more closely. If he flips town, dragon would be a good D2 vote.

I don't understand. Viking is the lynchbait. What would lynching the one who is more likely town tell us? House said the same thing, in 464.

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Dragonspawn

I'm starting to think you are prob town but I'm not totally sure.

Why? I've been trying to read House all game and I can't still.

How is this answer coming?

And yet I haven't made a determination in either direction whether boon is scum or town so how can it be a scum tell in context?

What do you think of Boon? What about me, or everyone else on your wagon?

I saw the question. Didn't want you to think I'm ignoring it. I'm not sure what to think of quite a number of you guys so far. This is my first game with most of you and it usually takes some time to get descent reads on people. Which is precisely why most of my current reads are on people I'm familiar with. I suppose that's just day one.

Boon, for example hasn't posted a lot. Most of his substance posts are his analysis of my game play so far. I clearly pissed him off since he agreed with my post on angering people. And I disagree with his analysis obviously. That's not really a scum tell though. Doesn't mean he is town either. I just haven't seen enough yet.

As for you I'd like to see more from you. Null so far.

My fullest read on my wagon is probably aero. Getting a town vibe from him. He is asking questions. Not shying from discussion. He seems sincere in his inquiries like he is trying to figure things out.

Usually is like this day one. Nothing firm and sometimes fluid. I'm usually better on later days

This is scum trying to get pressure off of himself by going totally passive to everything. LYNCH IT!

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His scum huntin' is super duper fake, even for Day 1 standards. LYNCH IT!

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Ladies and Gentlemen, sheep me on this, fellas. You won't regret it.

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Prodgey.

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My day 1's are never really great in a large game. Lynching me is a mistake, as we don't need two claims today. We're not lynching Viking. Onto dragon.

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Oh, I'm not caught up. I just skimmed. I'll catch up when I'm not on my phone. I post a lot of pointless random things, Kitz.

Dragonspawn because I didn't like the viking wagon, and dragon seemed very antsy and scummy. I also didn't like how dragon brushed off everything I said like it was nothing. Just haha'd the hell out of anything.

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I'd love a dragon lynch.

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Hmm...I never unvoted him. Did something happen that reset the votes? I was the first person to vote dragon,

VOTE: dragon

no its just me fucking up VC again

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ABR - Scum. I haven't really been noticing ABR, and his ISO is terribad. Naked votes, bad pushes, and posting just enough to avoid prodding.

You should read Day 1 of any of the games we've been in together. I have a slow start. I always expect to get killed N1, once that hurdle is past, I get more invested into the game.

Yet you want me lynched for the same reason. Interesting. Very very interesting.

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It wasn't low hanging when I started. I'm the reason dragon became low hanging. I caught scum and e didn't know how to deal with it. Hmph! Although, I could see ABR buddy wanting me lynched because I would eventually get his buddy lynched.

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That's not weird it all. Especially not in a large normal on day 1.

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Okay, absolutely no reason to claim that right now? Pho hohoho look guys. I'm a tracker. Look guys I'm a vig. I'm a doctor. Look, cop! Way too easy to slip under the radar as scum by you claiming now, and it's in a way you can still change your claim later.

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I disagree. That's a horrible way to think. You mean, if we can prove he's scum day 1, don't lynch him? Pfft.

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Did someone say hammer?!

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Also, why would anyone counterclaim anything on day 1 when we've already had multiple claims. That's stupid.

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Meh, I can't read Kitz.

Get out of here. You couldn't read me either yet didn't hesitate in calling me scum. Place your vote on Kitz.

And you can't read me. This is obv confirmed town Boonskiies. Keep day Kitz vote.

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Well, nice to meet you. I Boonskiies. I crazy. Love me.

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Nope. But I do a lot of theatre and people assume that all the time. Totally understanding misconception.

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prawrdge

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Vote Boonskiies

2 days left to deadline and thats all your contributions?

I feel good about kitz. Celt, what is purpose of claiming that role? At least if you're claiming without the need to do so, you soft claim something that might make scum target you over actual prs. Not a fan of that claim at all.

NJ, I will revise your horrid diary entry at some point.

I'm behind a bit. What do you want me to say? I can link you my other large normals if you'd like and it'll show you I've been town in every single one of them, and they all started this exact same way.

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VOTE: ABR

I'm getting annoyed with this.

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I'm not believing his claim, btw.

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Both. He brought up the fact that I'm lurking as a scum read, when he only has like 3 posts more than me. Granted, I know I'm not being very active at the moment, but that's not alignment indicative at all for me at this point. Him and I were back and forth when he did his claim also. He had like two votes on him, and I believe I explained why I think it's fake.

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Okay, absolutely no reason to claim that right now? Pho hohoho look guys. I'm a tracker. Look guys I'm a vig. I'm a doctor. Look, cop! Way too easy to slip under the radar as scum by you claiming now, and it's in a way you can still change your claim later.

Also, why would anyone counterclaim anything on day 1 when we've already had multiple claims. That's stupid.

Here.

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It's like if I were to say I was a doctor or something. No one would really have any reason to believe it, and a CC at this point would be stupid.

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No one has any real reason to believe it, but it also causes confusion and will stop people from lynching them.

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I've never played with him. Him and I don't know each other. But from what I'm hearing, him and I have super duper super epic early super scummy days when we're town. I just can't confirm that on his part due to never seeing it.

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I also don't like the way I've been his main target for reasons why he should be his own target.

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Can someone explain the Klingon case?

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Can someone explain the Klingon case?

The Klingon case is something you want us to invest in so we get swayed to vote Klingon instead of you and your obvscumfuck buddies.

Mm, probably not. I don't want kling lynched. I was confused when I saw the wagon was as big as it was.

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Can someone explain the Klingon case?

The Klingon case is something you want us to invest in so we get swayed to vote Klingon instead of you and your obvscumfuck buddies.

Mm, probably not. I don't want kling lynched. I was confused when I saw the wagon was as big as it was.

So you and Klingon are buddies then and wanted to defend her by showcasing how weak the case is. Either one of those two or you're too lazy to investigate. Great benefits await if you flip scum and you flipping town would be an insignificant loss under these circumstances.

@Grib You liked Kitz's menstrual rant about meta? Bullshit.

Oh, if I were scum this game, I would totally be voting Kling right now, even if he was my buddy. It would make more sense that ABR would be my buddy.

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Mm, I don't find the need to point out people using incorrect pronouns necessary. It usually says right under the profile picture, and if I'm incompetent enough to ignore it for a second, just let it go. It's not even like I associate the people here with different genders, and instead I usually associate them with their profile pictures. Pointing it out is just nitpicky. If someone referred to me as a she, who cares?!

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Also, hello, mathblade.

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No, I'm not caught up. I'm phone posting. It's day 1 in a large normal. I said my shtick already, and I could really care less about this game at this point.

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Also, Dragon, ABR, and now, you elusive. I didn't think the vote on me would have been alignment indicative, but it totally is on your part. Hiding behind blank reasonings and basically suggesting a policy lynch. Getting super nitpicky, full of fluff, and had no reasoning for voting me. Scum always tries to mislynch me when they can. (They usually don't get rid of me as easy as they'd like)

VOTE: Elusive

I don't like the ISO. Seems fake. I'd rather ABR because I don't believe the claim, but whoever said we can prove that later is right. This likely won't pick up steam. I won't be joining the Klingon wagon, though.

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There's about 15 ish pages, I believe in this game that I need to catch up on. Somewhere around pages 28-43

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Unvote Kitz, y'all and vote Elusive.

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I haven't looked into

him/her/they

yet. I've noticed some aggression towards me. Definitely not a town read for me, but not necessarily a scum read.

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House, Viking, Kling I'm leaning town on. I'm not missing too much, and I'm caught up on the more recent pages...enough to know elusive's scum. Subtly calling throwing the word town in his post, acting like it means something if

he/she/they

calls himself town. Pfft.

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Haha, ika, I'm not voting myself, I'm voting elusive.

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We're not lynching pisskop. It's elusive or dragon.

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Is anyone else starting to lean scum on Ellie?

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I assume there is scum on elusive's wagon. Almost certainly pisskop.

elusive will not be lynched while I am alive. Take that as you will. I might consider dragonspawn, though

Would someone please post a case on Klingoncelt for those of us who just replaced in?

These posts don't make sense.

Unvote, vote Ellie

lynch it.

Finally, something we can agree on.

I'll join you.

VOTE: Ellie

This make you happy, Ellie? You said not while you are alive that elusive is going to be lynched.

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You've claimed everything under the sun and lied about it a lot. Hence I don't trust you but you lie as both alignments. I think it is best to nip a cop claim in the butt. Masons will work themselves out with the NK. If anything a mason is who you leave alone because they are conf town to each other. If they don't die in the next two/three nights it is auto lynch them and then townfirm the least active. Masons are literally harmless check. Fake cop claims can derail a town.

I know. I have done it and I know what fake cop bullshit looks like.

EBWOP: I am not voting vikingfan because it would result in a no lynch. The only reason. If there were more time I would be demanding vikingfan's lynch.

what the heck is this...?

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Also, what's an NJ?

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Oh, an NJ is a NakedJogger. I didn't put that together.

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In nearly every game I have read or been in with ABR he has fake claimed. Therefore I don't believe him.

This makes him defending one claim (VF's while going after Ellie's) quite suspicious.

Okay, I don't believe his claim either? So what? I had to deal with the same thing, we can't prove or deny it at this point. Also, people have said, including you, he does that as town. So we drop it at that, and wait for another day.

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I've actually never played with ABR, so I don't know that. But this Boonskiies thinks we should save that Boonskiies (ABR) for another day.

Also, VF's claim seemed legit to me. We'll be able to prove if he's scum or not either way.

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Meh. I don't like either of the two wagons. But I'm supporting the NJ wagon more than the Kling.

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Some people like VT, kitz...

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because

he/she/they

= scum.

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because

he/she/they

he/she/they

= scum.

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because

he/she/they

he/she/they

= scum.

I quit.

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I quit.

That's why you

preview

messages first... Otherwise you'd look high in some situations.

preview is for people who think they might have something they slipped on. I fear nothing! And that could be a very accurate assumption in some cases...

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I like you Dragon...I really do. I've been noticing that in this game. You thoroughly entertain me. I'm still lean scum, but I enjoy you.

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Why is the NJ wagon happening?

They don't have a reasoning. The only way I'm supporting the NJ wagon over the Klingon one is because I don't feel Klingon will flip scum. Like at all. I'm not voting either of them, unless it's a hammer on NJ to save Klingon from a lynch.

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Oh? Mathblade is the one pushing it? Yeah, nope. Not voting NJ now. I didn't know math was a leading person pushing that wagon. Thought she was just trying to randomly join and attempt to explain.

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So I'm reading the thread and asking myself "why is the NJ wagon happening?"

Because I still don't have a clue why it exists and nobody seems willing or able to tell me why.

While anyone is at it, can someone give me the run-down on both the wagons currently? It'll help me catch up quicker.

Also, read ika's ISO for Votecounts, and I noticed something funny: SilverWolf has been the 3rd vote on every major wagon after the first VC, which is interesting to me. 3rd and 4th votes always seem to be where wagons tend to start, and I read on a mafia tell wiki that it's actually a pretty scummy thing to do (I think it was JEEP's tells, but from what I understand they're outdated-ish?). I dunno, just a strange happenstance I noticed. Doing more reading now.

Anybody's particular ISOs I should look at first? I'm already going to do klings, NJs, and MathBlade (because of that Ellie post just now).

Elusive and Ellie are scummy.

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Also, ABR's ISO is worth a look into; he claimed tracker, and we don't know if he's scum falsely fake claiming, scum actually fake claiming, town actually claiming, or town fake claiming.

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And Viking had a cop claim in there somewhere that some people are doubting.

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Gosh, I know this game much better than I thought!

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Also, ABR's ISO is worth a look into; he claimed tracker, and we don't know if he's scum falsely fake claiming, scum actually fake claiming, town actually claiming, or town fake claiming.

How about you draw a conclusion instead of posting a bunch of nothing?

Pedit: Stop talking about the fakeclaims because no other lynches are going to happen besides Klingon or NJ.

If you would have read, you'd know that I have drawn a conclusion. I think he's scum fake claiming, or town claiming. I also have brought up the fact that I don't want him lynched today. I don't get what your post was trying to infer.

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Boonskiies, what do you make of Ellie persistently ignoring my questions?

I know she's far more active than I am, so I don't understand her excuse (if she even has one).

I think she's scum in general. She came in and started acting like certain people are confirmed town without really any good reason. She has this weird connection to elusive, who I was also finding scummy.

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Wake & Oz:

Vikingfan claimed cop at L2 or L3 I believe so there was pressure
ABR, under no pressure, claimed town tracker
Klingoncelt under light pressure (less than half a wagon) claimed Vanilla and then later claimed that town would lose if they lynched her
NakedJoggers like a few others (pisskop and Boonskiies) focused excessively on the newer players such as myself or Kitz or etc to be scum but don't really pursue\hunt\question or ignore attempts to answer questions. NakedJoggers also seemed to want to elicit reactions from me or Kitz but probably not the kind he expected. Then see MathBlade ISO.
Also resistance to NJ's lynch makes me wonder.

Boonskiies you're NOU is boring, do you have any other scumspects or want to actually lead a wagon on with you know reasoning? Also totally shipping Dragonboon or Boonspawn. Also, you a TVD fan?

The Vampire Diaries...? yes...>.>

I have a lot of scumspects, I just don't have the ability to really lead a wagon right now. I don't have enough on ellie or yourself to actually get people to want to not just discredit or push me aside.

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I'd like to know why ABR claimed Tracker when he wasn't even at L1.

Neither was VF when they claimed.

Did not know that.

Why? I don't get it.

False. VF was under A LOT of pressure, and would have been lynched.

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That proves nothing, Ellie...

@Wake - there actually was a part of me that liked the way ABR's claim came about. From where we were at the time, ABR was totally going to be taken down to around L-1, possibly be even lynched, wasting a lot of time. Which is why he claimed so early. It's actually one of the only town like things I felt he did this game. But I feel he could have done it as scum, also, which is why he DEFINITELY shouldn't be considered for today's lynch. We have our two wagons, and unless people are willing to risk switching to Ellie, like now, there's not many other lynch candidates.

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The deadline is in 4 days. I don't have time for this. I'm the town tracker. Let's lynch someone else.

as multiple votes went on him in a short amount of time.

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Mathblade replaced in. I think she didn't know, yet assumed. I don't think she purposely was lying. I don't think that's alignment indicative, though.

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I've played with Mathblade, F2F. She definitely wasn't purposely lying.

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Actually dragon, Ellie responded first. So again what is going on with your selective reading?

yeah I missed that. Probably the lack of numbers and quoting the post and the fact that I'm on my phone

you didn't respond to Boonspawn or Dragonboon. There's also that Spawnskiies combo, also.

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@Wake - people don't trust me with L-1.

That wasn't the reasoning Math is a scumspect of mine.

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You are kidding, right? Ellie was borderline trying to claim mason with you, elusive.

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VOTE: Ellie

I'm on neither of the main wagons anyways.

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If we can't do it, you know what to do Viking.

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NJ, but I really don't want to.

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I don't think we should settle on any of those two.

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I don't want either of them lynched. I really don't. VOTE ELLIE!!!!

@Pisskop - she's not a main wagon...I was on elusive beforehand, meaning I wasn't on NJ or Kling...