NY 178: MASQUERADE -- GAME OVER


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Post Post #7025 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:04 am

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I'm getting mislynched either way. If Pine flips wolf, expect scum to put forth a no kill, as I would totally try to frame me in this situation if I was scum.
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Post Post #7026 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:26 am

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Because I thoroughly expect Pine to flip Wolf, but still feel rather dirty about being considered Wolf.

I refuse to comment on any of Boon's actions.
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Post Post #7027 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:40 am

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I flat out said I would hammer once someone made the second vote on Nero or pine. I had voted both of then toDay, and recently. Don't act surprised, and I don't see how it's scummy at all. There was nothing left to be said, everyone universally scum read him. Whatever.
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Post Post #7028 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:04 pm

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In post 7026, T S O wrote:Because I thoroughly expect Pine to flip Wolf, but still feel rather dirty about being considered Wolf.

For Pine to be town it means that scum shot Boon, which verifies BP on Boon.
Also, I cannot imagine a Wolf scum shooting Pine unless Wolf scum was derp-pa-doo-da.
That suggests that for Pine to be town, Boon has to be a BP Mafia - which...is a dicey one to swallow fully.
At that point, you enter into play a whole lot more reasonably as a scumspect.
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Post Post #7029 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:05 pm

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In post 7025, Boonskiies wrote:I'm getting mislynched either way. If Pine flips wolf, expect scum to put forth a no kill, as I would totally try to frame me in this situation if I was scum.

I probably would lynch you if that happens, I'll admit.
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Post Post #7030 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 2:10 pm

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In post 7020, Thor665 wrote:If Pine flips Wolf I'm going to jail Boon.
If Pine flips Mafia I'm going to jail TSO
If Pine flips town I'm going to jail Nero.


So, you think that, assuming Pine flipping Wolf, Boon is most likely Mafia, assuming Pine flipping Mafia, I'm most likely Wolf, and assuming Pine flipping town, Nero is most likely ...either?
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Post Post #7031 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 3:21 pm

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Yes.
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Post Post #7032 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 3:21 pm

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Look at it this way - if you're town, you're safe.
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Post Post #7033 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:22 pm

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Everyone always goes so quiet at these points.

It's kind of annoying, because I usually translate that as a scum tell - yet all of you are doing it multiple times. It bugs the living feth out of me.
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Post Post #7034 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:57 pm

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Well damn

Kinda feel screwed by PoE here

Wolf Bulletproof.

Good game the last few weeks. I really thought AtE and active lurking was going to work, that you all might waver onto a different target

Honestly, no clue who the mafia is between TSO and NC. Good luck with that, either one of them would totally deserve to win if they can pull it out of the hat

I don't even think Slandaar and I did a bad job, Town+Maf simply did it better

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Post Post #7035 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 10:21 pm

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If I'm not like confirmed super obvious town by now, there's no helping this town.
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Post Post #7036 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 10:22 pm

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Not meant in a mean way; I actually feel we've played pretty well. Scum is doing well also. It's a good game really.
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Post Post #7037 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 10:57 pm

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Ehh, there's an outside chance that Boon is completely bullshitting the BP claim, and no kill happened because he shot at me. I rather think he's town tho

Agreed that everyone did a good job. I look forward to watching LYLO
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Post Post #7038 (ISO) » Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:15 am

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In post 7033, Thor665 wrote:Everyone always goes so quiet at these points.

It's kind of annoying, because I usually translate that as a scum tell - yet all of you are doing it multiple times. It bugs the living feth out of me.


Well, your first post was at 3 am, and your second at 7:30 or so - I do this thing called bed usually. :wink:

In post 7037, Pine wrote:Ehh, there's an outside chance that Boon is completely bullshitting the BP claim, and no kill happened because he shot at me. I rather think he's town tho


Do you think he's town by play or by claim? If it's the former I completely fail to see it - if it's the latter I'm getting more and more doubtful of the claim itself being true at all.

Also - good game, Pine. You were playing well until your defense of Slandaar - that was what swung it irrevocably for me.
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Post Post #7039 (ISO) » Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:18 am

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I guess it's possible he's town, maybe. My main problem as town is confirmation bias'ing the fuck out of my scumreads - I was convinced yesterday that Thor was Pine's Wolf buddy and I think it was only the set-up spec which led me to stop calling him Wolf.

I'm fairly sure I'll be doing a hard reset if I'm alive tomorrow anyway, so it shouldn't be a problem hopefully.
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Post Post #7040 (ISO) » Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:19 am

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but goddamn it boon why do you act so fucking scummy if you're town

we had a real bonding moment yesterday where I felt you were playing well and then you started derping around like a madman.

please.

no more derp.
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Post Post #7041 (ISO) » Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:40 am

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In post 7034, Pine wrote:Kinda feel screwed by PoE here

That is part of the process of multiscum.
That said, you were playing scummy - I and a few other people were calling you scummy prior to me offering my setup spec that really narrowed your PoE space.

In post 7034, Pine wrote:Wolf Bulletproof.

:igmeou:
That's an interesting one.
Hurm...
Well, I already said I'd jail Boon if you flipped Wolf - so...yeah, this doesn't change that if you flip BP Wolf.
I am sticking to my previously stated commentary.

In post 7034, Pine wrote:I really thought AtE and active lurking was going to work,

Pardon me, I'm going to be sick in the corner.

In post 7039, T S O wrote:I guess it's possible he's town, maybe. My main problem as town is confirmation bias'ing the fuck out of my scumreads - I was convinced yesterday that Thor was Pine's Wolf buddy and I think it was only the set-up spec which led me to stop calling him Wolf.

That is true, up until I offered that up you had some weird alternate neighbor spec you were calling me scum for - basically you were hard married to me being scum as far as I could tell.

In post 7039, T S O wrote:I'm fairly sure I'll be doing a hard reset if I'm alive tomorrow anyway, so it shouldn't be a problem hopefully.

Today, after the Slandaar flip and a no kill night, would have been a good day to do that, frankly.
Why do you think you'll need a hard reset tomorrow?

@Boon - do you believe the BP claim from the Wolf and how do you think that effects your own claim?
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Post Post #7042 (ISO) » Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:40 am

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@Pine - could you please explain Majiffy's town/town/Mafia comment as best you can?
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Post Post #7043 (ISO) » Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:41 am

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In post 6746, Slandaar wrote:I guess I better make sure you know; Town/Town/Maf. Cry at me postgame if you already knew but I feel I need to make sure.

This one.

Also - Slandaar, not Majiffy.

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Post Post #7044 (ISO) » Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:18 am

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In post 7033, Thor665 wrote:It bugs the living feth out of me.

that's the point!
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Post Post #7045 (ISO) » Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:21 am

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Nero continues to play pro-scum in this game by avoiding commenting on what is happening.
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Post Post #7046 (ISO) » Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:24 am

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In post 7045, Thor665 wrote:Nero continues to play pro-town in this game by getting scum lynched.

this is the comment you are looking for.

Boon is prob still the last scum so yea.
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Post Post #7047 (ISO) » Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:40 am

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What are your thoughts on his BP status considering Pine's current claim?
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Post Post #7048 (ISO) » Sun Feb 01, 2015 6:32 am

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I think it makes perfect sense for me to be a BP town. It causes confusion between the scum roles.
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Post Post #7049 (ISO) » Sun Feb 01, 2015 7:05 am

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But wouldn't that be a negative applied to the Wolf team that is not properly balanced as a negative to the Mafia team?
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