SMITE Role Madness Mafia (OVER AT LAST!)

[RachMarie]

/confoim

4 pages already :O

[RachMarie]

I have been in many games with Nacho as both town and scum and he is pretty darned good in both roles.

Tammy do you have any scum games? You have been town in all the games we have been in together well save for that one where I turned you from town to scum (I still feel bad about that and it did turn out to be a mistake, should have gone for someone more nullish I guess )

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Is feeling like Tammy is ignoring her

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I think there is a fair bit of posturing between the hydrae atm. We have not even begun the game yet?

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what we are not doing RVS?

I guess I will spend some time sorting peeps out tomorrow its late here.


Psst Tammy even though it was pregame I really WOULD like to check out a couple of your scum games.

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Yeah tell me about it I am not even sure who has not posted yet? I need something from everyone before I can start sorting some of the slots out bah

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Those of you who are already town reading me could you explain WHY?

Bit is actually better at being scum than town. Do not let the VI routine fool you.

Of the 3 votes on me his seems the scummiest. No reasoning giving just a bald vote after two votes have already been cast. It looks like he is going for low hanging fruit.

VOTE: Bit

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As for why I did not vote after asking why not RVS is because I did not see a point to doing a joke vote when we clearly were bypassing the RVS since without all or most people participating the RVS really kinda loses its ability to help sort people out.


PEDIT how do you figure that out Bit? Just because a couple people have already said they have a town read on me? When I had not yet posted much? Which makes me nervous because I hope that fery/falcon and nacho/tammy are town.)

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Thanks Tammy especially since you often see me as scummy that makes more sense on you and Nacho, so yeah you can go in my likely town pile And that jives with what I know about Nacho who does tend to read me as town generally.


Still want to know from SW (fery and falcon) about why their early town read on me.


Farside I did not say everyone voting me was scum, I was basing my read and vote on the WAY that Bit joined the wagon, and the fact that peeps were brushing him off as town and VI. I have seen him pull some pretty good stunts as scum before and even 3rd party.

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Xombie if you want an active neighborhood, ask questions, post your thoughts, push people to talk.

The early froofroo with SW and Imperium feels like t v t so both go in the town pile. Vezo feels like town to me too.

I realize this is Role Madness so no real VTs but could we not be throwing around claims, fake or otherwise already? It muddies things up and only helps out scum.

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Welcome Mastin and Mantiz

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How do you figure that House, Scum already have the info on who is town and we are not supposed to reveal anything about our role PMs in the neighborhood. So it is more of discussion like in the game thread.

My point was since Xombie is a Newbie that I was giving him a pointer which is if you don't like how quiet it is make it less quiet. Discussion is good.

We have 25 players, how likely do peeps think this is multiball? Most larges I have been in have been multiball rather than one large scum team or 1 large scum team plus SK.

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That was not what I meant.

Right we can claim all we want, though it makes sense this early in the game NOT to claim. I am not fond of fake claiming by town under any circumstances but that is because I have seen it backfire more often for town than be useful. But the rules did say not to do the reveal thingy which would I gather back up our claim just like quoting role PM would. However that does not stop you from discussing things in the neighborhood like who you think is town, or who you think is scum just like you do in the game thread.

Scum already knows who is town, even in multiball they know who is not part of their team. By discussing things you may trip them up and catch them in the smaller setting of a neighborhood, so I disagree with you that the neighborhoods are useless.

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Refresh my memory FFX game?

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ohhhh ok thanks for the link

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ohh that Player list I wish I had been must have been a fun game.

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Matin why are you voting for someone who has been pretty much a non entity in the game? Until he responded to the prodding he was such a non entity that I thought you were making a joke vote and did not realize he is actually playing

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In other words, do you have anything to say about the people who ARE posting? You have vote hopped like mad and bragged about your scum skills and that is about it.

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Mastin
I call conf bias on me. I can't remember offhand a game when you did not think I was scum and every time I turned out to be town, so I would not be pushing on bragging rights just yet. BTW I am not happy with the response of I think you are scum but I am gonna vote this other dude who has not contributed to the game and might end up being replaced, because you have champions in SW and Imperium. If you think I am scum do not let that stop you. You are wrong, but seriously you should vote who you think is scum not hide behind other players.


Blonde
I would like to know more of why you think Mask is scum? Shrugs is not an acceptable answer.


Bit
I can't answer for Mastin, but in my experience AP town tends to fake claim and do gambits a lot, I will have to look back at previous games to see what I can pull out about scum AP, he tends to stick out more as town.

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Purple because it is NS's favorite color and I love him ♥

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Not sure how that helps you out there Vezo lol

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Vezo how the h e double hockey stick does the fact I pick my fiance's favorite color prove I am town?

I need to see more from Pere before I put him in a pile, I admit I tend to read him as scum and have a bit of confirmation bias with him.

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Question for those not voting someone at this point...

Why not?

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Mod you have Brantz listed twice one with 2 votes and once with 1 vote Does that mean he has 3 votes on him?

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FT why Mantis? Has she even posted anything yet?

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Welcome to the madhouse, Cephir.

I am going to take a closer look at some folks and see if I can narrow my reads down more. Right now its mostly meh

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Not voting:

theaceofspades,

ZZZX, Solar Wind, VysePresident


Deadline a little over a week!


Why are you not voting?


SW

You seem to be awfully focused on Imperium What about the rest of the crew here? Personally I feel the froo froo tween the two hydrae is definitely T v T and a distraction here. Girls, girls you are both pretty. We need to get a handle on others.

I need to ISO FT did he really say multiple neighborhoods? I am only in one and I doubt the mod would put us in more than one.

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Oh and Happy Birthday ace

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Hey all can we keep personal attacks out of it, it is a game. How about focusing on the other players?

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Tammy then talk to Dram about it he is the mod, bringing it up here in the game does not help us figure out who the scum is. All it is doing is causing drama since we can't see it unless we are in the same neighborhood.

I understand why you are upset, but we really need to focus on the game.

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Vote Tiphaine

I'm gonna give Ceph a chance to catch up, but I'm pretty sure he's scum.

Your case on Mantis was coming in voting someone and splitting? She was then replaced by Cephir so whats up with this read?

Ok i'm here. Finished reading too. Just dumping my thoughts.

First, to xombie's and someone else who i can't remember thing about neighborhoods.

Yes plural. This isn't a new mechanic is it? Been done before. Don't think so. Yes they (plural) help me.

MS is pretty much almost obvitown. Idk much about him though.

Bitmap Rach Ihouse imp and solar wind are also fairly strong townreads.

xombie i'm reserving judgement on.

Everyone else is almost as lurky as me. Except in a few cases

Read vezok ISO. Strong townread.

I'll iso the other guys in a moment too

How can you be in more than ONE neighborhood? Sounds like a scum slip to me.

Eh what? Everyone is lurking including me except for those who are not lurking?

VOTE: Ace dude

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Falcon and Tammy could you please focus on the game? Seriously it is really hard to sort people out with posts and posts of your personal argument not to mention the fact that then people are having to comment on that rather than figuring out who is scum and who is town which is what we need to do, We also need to start consolidating our votes so we make sure we have a lynch before deadline, preferably one that is not last minute.

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Aeronaut

You can't vote MS or Mastin today based on a PR action that took them both out of play for D 1.

How about putting your vote somewhere where it counts? In other words who else are you scum reading besides MS?

His PR was annoying but it does not seem like something that would be given to scum. And his action was mod confirmed. So it was not a fake claim.

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(Not game related) Ceph nice to meet you and I am sure that you know my fiance NS. I LOVE your avatar that warthog ROCKS ♥


Game related

Ceph goes in my town pile for now. I do want to take a look at some of his other games, but feels pretty towny to me.

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Did I screw up? meh I will go back and check that. I thought it was MS and Mastin that were removed from actions on D 1

umm mod why do you have 7 on ace one place and 1 on ace another?

Theaceofspades (7): AngryPidgeon, Farside22, vezokpiraka, mastin2, xombie, PeregrineV, Cephrir
FourTrouble (1): The Mask, iHouse
vezokpiraka (1): Skybird
TiphaineDeath (1): FourTrouble
AngryPidgeon (1): theaceofspades
theaceofspades (1): RachMarie
Rachmarie (1): Ooba
Cephrir (1): TiphaineDeath
iHouse (0): beastcharizard

[RachMarie]

You are right it is Bit and MS that are out not Mastin, carry on.

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I was looking at ISOs fery which is why I missed it, and how does making mistakes have anything to do with my alignment?

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Ace, Skybird, Aeronaut

I was focusing on what has happened since the big froo froos. Emotion and logic can not coincide and I am working on logically sorting a rather large group of people out for my reads.

I have some good town reads, and a scum read and working my way through some of the others to see who else will go in my scum pile.

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because that happened before all the froo froos that is why I need to go back to the earlier stuff still to sort some others out, but that means dealing with the distractions so I was starting with the easier ones first.

I have a town read on all the participants of the froo froos anyways I need to narrow down some other peeps.

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Saving Mastin for later she has a lot of content and she is one of those who I struggle with pegging especially early on.

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mastin

Since I have not yet read through your voluminous ISO (about all I remember about you atm is you contantly harping on being a scum hunting god and finding myself disagreeing with you.) I also know I tend to have trouble pegging you to the point of conf bias of reading you as scum and being totally wrong.

Could you explain WHY you think I am scum?
What do you think of the wagon on Ace?
What other scum reads do you have at this point?
What is your logical analysis of the froo froos?

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Not willing to lynch today or most likely ever that froofroo was SO TOWN V TOWN duh:

Solar Wind
Imperium


Not willing to consider much today because they are out of action

MS
Bit (have a scum read and not seeing all the town praise)


Feel pretty good about being in the town pile:

Cephrir
House
Ooba
vezokpiraka
FourTrouble

Skybird This is a weaker read since not much here yet, but feels like a good start.

Farside22 This one is a bit weaker I would feel better if she had more town reads at this point, she seems to be focused only on her scum reads for the most part. But she gets town points for trying to push activity and pushing on others. Her read on me seems strange, but meh does not prevent her from being town.

Still sorting out Due to harder for me to sort, or lack of presence

Mask
TSO
Ank
VysePresident

PeregrineV conf bias/not much to go on

Angrypidgeon This bothers me I want a better read on him bah I know he was V/LA waiting to see if he catches up and starts doing the flamboyance of his normal towny self

Beast Not much to go on, a few posts about specific peeps but those posts feel towny, I wish I had more to go on with him and a better read from him on other people in the game. Which is why he is not in the town pile at this point.


Scummy feelings and not good feelings about

Aeronaut Plays the summary game (IIoA) and keeps his vote on MS? even though he knows MS is out of the game for this day? Could be MS, Aeronaut, and Bit are all team mates, but too soon to tell especially untill we gat some flips.

Ace (My vote stays HERE)
Everyone is lurking except for a few cases. Umm what? Seriously whining about lurking but not pushing activity gets you mucho scum points dude. Not to mention the lack of logic and IIoA in that statement. Plus I hate everyone and I do not do meta or any other things that help with scum hunting just does not help. It is DAY ONE dude there is not a heck of a lot to go on or analyze unless you look at meta, how much experience players have etc. ESPECIALLY when so many are lurking.

Pretty sure that those who are out of the game, one is scum and the other is town. Though there is the possibility they are working together and came up with a scheme to prevent them from getting lynched.

Sorry for the wall but there ya go my reads meh as they are.

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opps still sorting out Mastin, leaving her ISO for last because its long winded.

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I may have missed someone else should be 24 reads or not yet reads on the list

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umm SW I would say with role madness that the scum are not VT and not likely to claim VT. What fake claims they may give might be problematic. They may have mod provided fake claims, but I am not sure on this though. In my experience I have had games where the scum were provided with fake claims and games where they were not, Same with modding games I have done it both ways, though more often not given fake claims unless it was something like role madness U Pick. Which is why I think it could be possible here.


Pedit to farside
I get the feeling Vyse can be sorted out tomorrow he will either have caught up by then or he will be replaced. Right now there really is not much to go on. I have had times like that where I was so busy I just posted a few catch up posts/prod dodges and I was sometimes scum sometimes town. So it could just be he is really busy. Anyone check to see if had any completed scum games on site?

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I think we need to consolidate on Ace at this point. I would hate to see us get down to the wire on someone and have to really compromise or end up worse yet with a NL on D 1. That is such bad juju

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My point about the I hate everyone and yeah I saw it in his ISO is that it can be a flip way to get everyone to laugh and slip him into towny pile without really LOOKING at the fact that it is flippant and does not give much info or analysis.

Overall he seems scum to me, you do not have to agree. but I will push my scum reads and try to get peeps to vote for them. I also will compromise if I have to in order to help get a lynch on D 1 to avoid the bad juju.

So basically Farside, your scum read of me is predicated on my scum read of Ace?

What about my reads on OTHER people in the game?

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beast last I looked the hydra replaced out and house replaced back in. I know it is confusing.

Xombie I did not mean to overlook you leaning town on you especially since you look like you are fairly new to the game. You seem like newb town.

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Sorry all been really busy with work stuffs will catch up here over the weekend

I will do what I can since deadline is so close in this game

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This is bloody ridiculous we have 18 HOURS peeps and we are all over the place

Of the other wagons besides the one I am on, I feel most confident of Imperium and SW who are my top town reads.

Not sure why either Ace or Magua does not have a vote? But we need 9 more votes to lynch AP We need 7 more voted to lynch Ace

We need to consolidate or we will have a NL

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People not voting and people on the low wagons down at the bottom of the list

who of the top wagons would you vote for?

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VOTE: AP

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SW we can deal with that tomorrow we need to lynch someone before deadline now

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mod can we have extra time since we just had a replacement? Pretty please with sugar on top?

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On V/LA

Will try to catch up ASAP

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Major work stuffs sorry

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I am so sorry everyone but I am really swamped with work stuffs we have to work harder than usual because we are broke The joys of working for yourself

Go ahead and replace me Dram I really am SO SORRY