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Post Post #5775 (ISO) » Sun Dec 28, 2014 9:54 am

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I sort of thought he was just derping with that commentary, myself.
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Post Post #5776 (ISO) » Sun Dec 28, 2014 9:55 am

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In post 5774, Flubbernugget wrote:Nero has claimed that thor has no gun. So he's fucked his whole scumteam by your theory unless you want to argue me as a fourth wolf.

How would you be a fourth wolf??? The dead one... you... and... ??? and ???

Didn't realize that NeroCain was a gunsmith, that's a super wolfie role. Mafia might have a wolf-detecting role too.
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Post Post #5777 (ISO) » Sun Dec 28, 2014 9:57 am

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Depending on what you do or don't think the cop investigated.
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Post Post #5778 (ISO) » Sun Dec 28, 2014 10:01 am

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In post 5777, Thor665 wrote:Depending on what you do or don't think the cop investigated.


Explain?
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Post Post #5779 (ISO) » Sun Dec 28, 2014 10:03 am

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The cop was a little awkward in defining what his investigation revealed or didn't reveal.

That said, on the flip side, I will agree that Reinoe tried to couch his counterclaim in terms of being a very specific cop, which may suggest Mafia does indeed have a specific cop.

But it's a bit muddy - and thus 'depends on what you do or don't think the cop investigated'.
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Post Post #5780 (ISO) » Sun Dec 28, 2014 10:10 am

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I iso'd beast, it's pretty clear that his results were town / anti-town. So wolves, SKs, Mafia.
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Post Post #5781 (ISO) » Sun Dec 28, 2014 10:12 am

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In post 4780, beastcharizard wrote:Finally read the game and these are my reads.

Scum:
Reinoe
goodmorning
AxleGreaser
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Leaning Scum:
Josh_B

Null:
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Leaning Town:
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Town:
TSO
Slandaar

as such

VOTE: Renioe


Was this posted Day 2? If so, TSO/Slandaar might be innos.
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Post Post #5782 (ISO) » Sun Dec 28, 2014 12:08 pm

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In post 5748, AxleGreaser wrote:Never said I doubted my scum read on Pine

Well I honestly don't see a ( valid) reason to unvote a scumread.

In post 5774, Flubbernugget wrote:Nero has claimed that thor has no gun.

I'm actually not a GS but I do think Thor is prob not scum. I mean maybe one of Ren/Scrip was bussing him but meh...
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Post Post #5783 (ISO) » Sun Dec 28, 2014 12:19 pm

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In post 5782, Nero Cain wrote:I'm actually not a GS


So what is that bit that is being referred to?
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Post Post #5784 (ISO) » Sun Dec 28, 2014 12:24 pm

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That I said Thor didn't have a gun
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Post Post #5785 (ISO) » Sun Dec 28, 2014 12:29 pm

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Why would you say that unless gunsmith?
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Post Post #5786 (ISO) » Sun Dec 28, 2014 12:40 pm

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Though it would be funny, also possibility to draw some scum actions.
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Post Post #5787 (ISO) » Sun Dec 28, 2014 1:30 pm

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ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME
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Post Post #5788 (ISO) » Sun Dec 28, 2014 1:32 pm

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VOTE: nero
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Post Post #5789 (ISO) » Sun Dec 28, 2014 1:34 pm

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Are you? I think you are literally the only person (besides DGB who hadn't been here and hadn't read it) who was taking the claim seriously - and that only late in the day.
Why in the universe did you never ask him for his other results if you thought it was legit?
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Post Post #5790 (ISO) » Sun Dec 28, 2014 1:51 pm

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In post 5786, Nero Cain wrote:Though it would be funny, also possibility to draw some scum actions.


Seems like a strangely specific joke, though.
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Post Post #5791 (ISO) » Sun Dec 28, 2014 2:14 pm

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In post 5789, Thor665 wrote:Why in the universe did you never ask him for his other results if you thought it was legit?

??

In post 5471, Flubbernugget wrote:Also axle are you reading the game because you missed something important


apparently Flub missed doing/thinking something important?
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Post Post #5792 (ISO) » Sun Dec 28, 2014 2:26 pm

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In post 5779, Thor665 wrote:The cop was a little awkward in defining what his investigation revealed or didn't reveal.

While it *was* true that it was little awkward.
he did eventually say

In post 5215, beastcharizard wrote:He said I got guilties on anti-town entities. Mafia or WW or SK or anything like that was not specified. I do know I get a false guilty on Millers though. Doubt that helps.


Which is not at all unclear. Beast was not a faction cop.




In post 5781, DrippingGoofball wrote:Was this posted Day 2?
If so, TSO/Slandaar might be innos.


Beast was fully claimed out in the open PRIME night cop. He had no reason not to state innos if he had them, and as he was a prime(2,3,5,7,11,..) night cop, and claimed to have got a guilty night 2. Either he lied (a lot) or he had no innos.

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Post Post #5793 (ISO) » Sun Dec 28, 2014 2:27 pm

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EBWOP clarity
In post 5791, AxleGreaser wrote:
In post 5789, Thor665 wrote:Why in the universe did you never ask him for his other results if you thought it was legit?

indeed ??

In post 5471, Flubbernugget wrote:Also axle are you reading the game because you missed something important


apparently Flub missed doing/thinking something important?
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Post Post #5794 (ISO) » Sun Dec 28, 2014 2:41 pm

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In post 5789, Thor665 wrote:Are you? I think you are literally the only person (besides DGB who hadn't been here and hadn't read it) who was taking the claim seriously - and that only late in the day.
Why in the universe did you never ask him for his other results if you thought it was legit?


So mafia can know how many shots he is?

Why didn't you comment on my unvote right after he said it?
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Post Post #5795 (ISO) » Sun Dec 28, 2014 2:57 pm

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In post 5792, AxleGreaser wrote:Axle: Keeper of the truth.


Silly me, I forgot isn't a prime number.
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Post Post #5796 (ISO) » Sun Dec 28, 2014 2:58 pm

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"I forgot ONE isn't a prime number" EBWOP
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Post Post #5797 (ISO) » Sun Dec 28, 2014 3:04 pm

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In post 5791, AxleGreaser wrote:
In post 5789, Thor665 wrote:Why in the universe did you never ask him for his other results if you thought it was legit?

??

I don't see what is unclear about that question. Flubber also apparently understood it - so...?

In post 5794, Flubbernugget wrote:So mafia can know how many shots he is?

Why didn't you comment on my unvote right after he said it?

1. So you presumed he was limited shot?

2. Didn't even register to me.

Why would a Gunsmith clear on me make any difference - even when you voted me a blind man could see that if I was anyone's scumbuddy it would be Scripten, not Reinoe - so...if I was a wolf I wouldn't have a gun. So...?
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Post Post #5798 (ISO) » Sun Dec 28, 2014 4:03 pm

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In post 5797, Thor665 wrote:I don't see what is unclear about that question. Flubber also apparently understood it - so...?


sorry next post tried to make it clearer I was doubling up on the question, as i found I wanted to know that too.
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Post Post #5799 (ISO) » Sun Dec 28, 2014 4:12 pm

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In post 5797, Thor665 wrote:Why would a Gunsmith clear on me make any difference


Just a local culture question.
Spoiler: prolly not relevant to MS forum players, but Id like an answer, from experienced/long time forum player, please
previous observation.
The NKs did not specify a kill method.

Ive seen forums where they ordinarily play WW vs seer etc. Ones where they play mafia vs cop.

Do Were Wolves always(100%) not have guns. Thus is a GS always a faction cop and never detects WW.
Ok so even if it always has been true, I have never seen a prime night cop either....
Would it be not normal, or just breaking with tradition? (more or less breaking than prime night cop?)
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