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Post Post #4350 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:49 pm

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In post 4345, Shiro wrote:
He(
?)
was always my third pick. He(
?
) lurked the whole game and the little he spoke coincidentaly when mentioned/votes was meh
Btw it seems I was remembering right that he defended Boon. He(
?
) did defend him when you(axle) said town shouldn't give him(boon) a free pass on the VI meta right ? Cause if so we do have a contradiction here.


I am confused.

Who do you claim did that
?
(name please)
then who are you voting?
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Post Post #4351 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:49 pm

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Thor:
I kinda have to do more work than you, and I had a meeting. Now that I'm back, I'll post my reads.

Thor665:
goodmorning, Izariael, reinoe, Flubbernugget, davesaz, Josh_B, Boonskiies, Shiro, Nero Cain(Intent)


If Thor is town:
- davesaz, Josh_B, and Boonskiies are in the prime scum slots on a wagon (If those slots are similar to smaller games.)
- Nero Cain's push for Thor to claim and immediate backing off is a little suspicious. Reads like rolefishing rather than pushing the game state.
- Goodmorning is likely scum, since she started the wagon, but hasn't pushed it nearly as hard as others on it.

If Thor is scum:
- Shiro is likely scum. Thor pushed him when the day started, but never really built up much of a wagon on him. Would be a pretty by-the-book bus attempt.
- Nero Cain is a little less suspicious in this case.

Regardless of Thor's flip, I see Izariael and reinoe as town for their play when interacting with the wagon. Goodmorning could potentially be scum, though I'd like to see more from her in light of recent events before making a call.

Thor? Your turn, if you would please.
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Post Post #4352 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:51 pm

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In post 4350, AxleGreaser wrote:
In post 4345, Shiro wrote:
He(
?)
was always my third pick. He(
?
) lurked the whole game and the little he spoke coincidentaly when mentioned/votes was meh
Btw it seems I was remembering right that he defended Boon. He(
?
) did defend him when you(axle) said town shouldn't give him(boon) a free pass on the VI meta right ? Cause if so we do have a contradiction here.


I am confused.

Who do you claim did that
?
(name please)
then who are you voting?


Beast did that.

And I am voting beast right now
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Post Post #4353 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:53 pm

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Oh the second He is Nero

First and second He are Beast third is Nero
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Post Post #4354 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:54 pm

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:facepalm: ^And I meant third on the first sentence
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Post Post #4355 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:58 pm

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In post 4318, Nero Cain wrote:I also don't think that Thor is an easy mislynch.


Indeed you dont, you claim believe he is

In post 3373, Nero Cain wrote:I'd pl this
<thor>
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Post Post #4356 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 2:03 pm

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In post 4355, AxleGreaser wrote:
In post 4318, Nero Cain wrote:I also don't think that Thor is an easy mislynch.


Indeed you dont, you claim believe he is

In post 3373, Nero Cain wrote:I'd pl this
<thor>
slot.

:igmeou:

Me being willing to PL Thor 'cause I'm unsure on him=//=my belief in how hard/easy he is to lynch.
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Post Post #4357 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 2:07 pm

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In post 4352, Shiro wrote:
In post 4350, AxleGreaser wrote:
In post 4345, Shiro wrote:
He(
?)
was always my third pick. He(
?
)
lurked the whole game and the little he spoke coincidentaly when mentioned/votes was meh

Btw it seems I was remembering right that he defended Boon. He(
?
) did defend him when you(axle) said town shouldn't give him(boon) a free pass on the VI meta right ? Cause if so we do have a contradiction here.


I am confused.

Who do you claim did that
?
(name please)
then who are you voting?


Beast did that.

And I am voting beast right now



So you really mean
In post 4352, Shiro wrote:
In post 4350, AxleGreaser wrote:
In post 4345, Shiro wrote:
He(
beast?)
was always my third pick. He(
beast?
) lurked the whole game and the little he spoke coincidentaly when mentioned/votes was meh
Btw it seems I was remembering right that he(
nero?
) defended Boon. He(
nero?
) did defend him when you(axle) said town shouldn't give him(boon) a free pass on the VI meta right ? Cause if so we do have a contradiction here.


and your actual reason for your third best pick is "
lurked the whole game and the little he spoke coincidentaly when mentioned/votes was meh
" (active lurker?)

whereas you have your current points on Nero?

You seemed unfocused and fuzzy...
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Post Post #4358 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 2:08 pm

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In post 4341, AxleGreaser wrote:Early D1. reasons (ask fonz what awas decent at 1119 (IIRC I saw stuff but did say anything (was busy))


weak kneed limp wristed pushes. 2600

Contrary to his memory he argued several points in defence of Boon. 2975 has a spoiler with links back to what he said. and it just keeps going.... 3026

3383 discrepancy between how bad NC claims the pereV case is today (horrible) and how much he said or did anything about that.
3541 << example of explicit (convenient) shift in how the PereV case was viewed. (3576 3580 3581
3585 Scummy ground shifting Bullshit.

and then there is the intent to hammer stuff (for the purpose of getting a claim(intent)) from just before

your "reasons" are bad.

I thought you were scummy for claiming that Boons contradicted himself, when he didn't. Your reaction was to start questioning me and treating me like a scum read, which is the definition of a OMGUS attack. Yes, I know that OMGUS does come from town but it also comes from scum and I think its hard to tell the difference between the two. IF you called someone scum and they attack you back, would you think they are scum or town?

Yea, I never said that I didn't defend Boons. Now I did say that I'm not using his VI status to call him town. Is that what you are talking about? If so, there's a big difference.

The rest of the stuff about my belief that the PV case was lame and that I contradicted myself is more rubbish.

You are also retroactively claiming that I was scummy on d1 despite not saying anything until I attacked you. Still ok with pling Axle.
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Post Post #4359 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 2:10 pm

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In post 4356, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4355, AxleGreaser wrote:
In post 4318, Nero Cain wrote:I also don't think that Thor is an easy mislynch.


Indeed you dont, you claim believe he is

In post 3373, Nero Cain wrote:I'd pl this
<thor>
slot.

:igmeou:

Me being
willing to PL Thor
'cause
I'm unsure on him
=//=my belief in how hard/easy he is to lynch.


Sorry WAT
you PL NULL reads (== unsure on him?)
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Post Post #4360 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 2:12 pm

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I am also not a fan of a Beast wagon. Yea, he lurks as town and does nothing. He might do that as scum but I've never played with scum him. I'll switch my vote to Thor or Josh here soon or maybe even start a Tier or Scripten wagon.
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Post Post #4361 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 2:13 pm

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In post 4357, AxleGreaser wrote:You seemed unfocused and fuzzy...

I am a little unfocused and fuzzy it is 3am I am not sure why I am still here tbh xD



P.Edit Did I just see someone willing to vote Garmr slot? Is this happening ?
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Post Post #4362 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 2:14 pm

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In post 4358, Nero Cain wrote:You are also retroactively claiming that I was scummy on d1 despite not saying anything until I attacked you. Still ok with pling Axle.


Nope. I said ask FONZ.

I indicated i thought i saw stuff. But indicated I was busy.
(which also indicates its not major, or it would have breached the busy doing other things level)

You like the saying you will PL people schtick. It saves you having to actual claim scum intent on anything you read.
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Post Post #4363 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 2:21 pm

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In post 4359, AxleGreaser wrote:
In post 4356, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4355, AxleGreaser wrote:
In post 4318, Nero Cain wrote:I also don't think that Thor is an easy mislynch.


Indeed you dont, you claim believe he is

In post 3373, Nero Cain wrote:I'd pl this
<thor>
slot.

:igmeou:

Me being
willing to PL Thor
'cause
I'm unsure on him
=//=my belief in how hard/easy he is to lynch.


Sorry WAT
you PL NULL reads (== unsure on him?)

YOU are claiming that my being ok with policy lynching him is ALSO my claiming that that I think he's an easy lynch. Wich makes about as much sense as TSO with a paragon scummie. Yes, I am unsure on Thor 'cause he did three things that I didn't like yesterday. He called me townish but didn't back this up. Said my reads were bad but when I asked him to explain why they are bad he didn't do this. I did not like his PV case but this is more null 'cause town can push bad cases as well so that is why I've been willing to PL him since yesterday. And thats what PL's are for. Its lynching reads that you are unsure of.

What exactly are you asking Fonz?
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Post Post #4364 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 2:49 pm

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In post 4198, Thor665 wrote:
Claim: 1-shot JKer

Target - GM

I still don't believe that you are a Town PR.

I don't like this Thor/Scripten discussion, it feels sleazy.

[quote="In post 4267, Boonskiies"Thor...and Flubber...come on. Two always easily mislynched people.[/quote]
lol wut

In post 4273, TierShift wrote:Here gonna come the great townlist:
Thor
Fonz
Reinoe
Axle
Tso
(Flub)
(Iza)
Between brackets are shaky.
All the other players are game!

How in the flying fuck do you have Fonz as a townread???????


what the fuckkkkkk

In post 4279, TierShift wrote:I so hope gm somehow confirms thor's claim s we can flashwagon this

Do you think before you speak?? The only way I'd be able to confirm that anyone targeted me with some sort of roleblocking capacity would be if I were to claim a PR that receives results, and did not receive them last night due to being roleblocked.

PRs that receive results are generally not that brand of expendable.

In post 4311, Izariael wrote:
In post 4302, The Fonz wrote:So, seriously, who's up for putting up with this kind of 'analysis' every day until deadline? Lynch him now, or forever hold your peace!

(If Boon survives today, I will not be voting for him later on barring the aforementioned awesome case).

Omg Fonz for town mayor. I support this message.

I disagree.
1. It's ridiculous to take people off the table just because oyu're being cranky.
2. Even if Boon is being 100% ridiculous, at least he's posting. If we have to PL someone, at least it should be beast.

In post 4351, Scripten wrote:- Goodmorning is likely scum, since she started the wagon, but
hasn't pushed it nearly as hard
as others on it.

bitch please
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Post Post #4365 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 2:50 pm

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Literally though

1-Shot JK is totally a Scum PR for when the Scum investigative finds a Town PR


literally

that shit is not a fucking town pr
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Post Post #4366 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 2:58 pm

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In post 4362, AxleGreaser wrote:It saves you having to actual claim scum intent on anything you read.

This is also false. I have scum reads, I posted them in my last list. I know you know this 'cause you quoted me.
Most
of my reasoning is in thread or in my pt so if you knew I had scum reads why would you lie and claim that I don't? And if you didn't know/understand something. Why not just ask?
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Post Post #4367 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 2:58 pm

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goodmorning wrote:Literally though

1-Shot JK is totally a Scum PR for when the Scum investigative finds a Town PR


literally

that shit is not a fucking town pr


In post 4226, reinoe wrote:

addendum
3) Hiplop claimed Jailkeeper even though he was a scum roleblocker.
Scum typically need to fabricate reasons for scumreads...

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Post Post #4368 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:01 pm

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So I take it this is everyone's first actual mafiascum game besides goodmorning and myself?

Welcome to mafiascum everyone. Now I understand that this is apparently everyone's first mafiascum game so just go ahead and sheep me and GM for great justice.
Scum typically need to fabricate reasons for scumreads...

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Post Post #4369 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:03 pm

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Might sheep you on Thor but the rest of my reads are solid so what else ya got?
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Post Post #4370 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:04 pm

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In post 4364, goodmorning wrote:
I don't like this Thor/Scripten discussion, it feels sleazy.


Oh?

How?

In post 4364, goodmorning wrote:
In post 4351, Scripten wrote:- Goodmorning is likely scum, since she started the wagon, but
hasn't pushed it nearly as hard
as others on it.

bitch please


Disagree? Show I'm wrong. Muffin and Izar took up the majority of the case; that puts you in a prime scum-leading-town slot. Of course, you only really have to worry about that if you know Thor is town.
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Post Post #4371 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:06 pm

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In post 4366, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4362, AxleGreaser wrote:It saves you having to actual claim scum intent on anything you read.

This is also false. I have scum reads, I posted them in my last list. I know you know this 'cause you quoted me.
Most
of my reasoning is in thread or in my pt so if you knew I had scum reads why would you lie and claim that I don't? And if you didn't know/understand something. Why not just ask?


and yet with all those scum reads and reasons you claim to have

In post 4356, Nero Cain wrote:Me being willing to
PL Thor 'cause I'm unsure on him
=//=my belief in how hard/easy he is to lynch.


you wan to PL Thor
because
your unsure on him

You may be selling this stuff but i am not buying it.
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Post Post #4372 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:06 pm

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In post 4364, goodmorning wrote:2. Even if Boon is being 100% ridiculous, at least he's posting. If we have to PL someone, at least it should be beast.


Well... I did vote beast over Boon, FWIW. I'm in agreement on this.
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Post Post #4373 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:08 pm

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In post 4369, Nero Cain wrote:Might sheep


Oh gawd no youre sheeping,
not PLing,
not lynching because on D2 you suddenly noticed the PereV case was all kinds of horrible.

yeah Ok, sure.
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Post Post #4374 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:09 pm

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In post 4342, Thor665 wrote:
In post 4240, Nero Cain wrote:I've been willing to pl you since d1 and I still don't care if you die but getting you to hurry up and claim is moving the game along.

My bad, that sounds super pro-town when you explain it like that.
:neutral:

I AGREE! but like, you refusing to claim until there was intent on you is stalling.



In post 4240, Nero Cain wrote:What have I done?

It's more 'what haven't you done'?
To which I would answer - scumhunt and offer a fair spread of reads.

I've done just as much, if not more today. You were TOWN reading me yesterday. So what has changed? Same thing that I told that other fluff monkey---I JUST posted a list of reads. I have no clue why you two are playing revisionist and claiming things that happened really didn't.
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