Open 25 - Jester Mafia (Jester Wins/Mafia 2nd) - before 462

[JDodge]

Vote: Yogurt

[JDodge]

This is why Yogurt is a good lynch choice.

[JDodge]

I

vote ThAdmiral

, because he hasn't posted yet.

*bangs head on desk*

[JDodge]

Battle Mage is a jester in all games he's in, regardless of his role.

BTW, Yogurt is scum. Just thought you might want to know.

[JDodge]

Unvote, Vote: Gorckat

[JDodge]

Erm- why?

Because it makes the scum not want to kill the Jester; make the town afraid of lynching and pick them off one-by-one.

[JDodge]

Gorck as he is not the Jester.

[JDodge]

More BS.

Your entire theory revolves around telling the scum what to do. I would not kill Lawrence in that situation if I were scum.

Besides, you can just tell yourself and Lawrence what to do at night anyways, no need to drag it out into the daytime.

[JDodge]

Then you would lose. If Lawrence makes it through the night, he is 100% scum and should be treated as such.

If the town must lynch someone today, then hit me and go after Lawrence tomorrow if he lives. I'm not the Jester and it won't lose the game if I hang.

And I'd really like to hear why Thad is also still voting Lawrence. I'm not convinced a Jester wouldn't make that statement (I'm scum or Jester, figure it out). Can someone can cite previous examples? I understand it seems

plausible

, but its a testable claim as I've described.

Everybody lies.

[JDodge]

'Cept well-behaved townies.

Not really.

Lynch All Liars is bad.

[JDodge]

Fair enough, but that's another debate.

So tell me. If you were scum, how would letting Lawrence live be in any way possible the right play?

Why would the town want to lynch the jester?

[JDodge]

You are using craplogic every time.

Allow me to pull some arguements out of thin air as well if you're going to completely ignore my reasoning.

[JDodge]

EVERYONE. LIES.

Do I need to bold it, print it out and mail it to you for you to understand that?

I could EASILY see it as a gambit.

[JDodge]

I've seen a similar thing in Vengeful setups where a townie will claim GF to figure out the scum.

[JDodge]

Open 15.

[JDodge]

Hey! Guess who missed the point entirely?

When you read it, notice that the person who was most vocal about the GF claim was the real GF.

[JDodge]

No, I'm trying to prove that Lawrence could easily be townie and thus prove your logic wrong.

[JDodge]

If someone has an example of scuh a gambit in a

Jester

game and it

worked

, then I'll consider revising that stance, but as it is, we don't lose not lynching Lawrence.

If there was such an

example

of a

Jester

game, then I would

show

you. No need to get all

angry

and start using

italics

in excess like I

normally

do.

[JDodge]

I'm not angry- sorry if I gave that impression

I'm just saying a failed Vengeful gambit isn't equivalent to what we have now.

Fine then, we'll go with your poorly-designed strategy. When we hand the game to the scum, you will be hoping you'd listened to me.

[JDodge]

JDodge:

Why would a Townie false claim? What is the logic behind it?

Did you read the game I referenced, and read my posts at all?

[JDodge]

Basically, a townie claimed GF, and the real GF was the one who went on and on and on about it. If we (I) had

listened

to said townie, we would've won.

[JDodge]

Unvote

Need to rethink my plan.

[JDodge]

I would vote Gorck again but I have a sneaking suspicion he's jester.

Vote: Qman

LURKER!

[JDodge]

I would vote Gorck again but I have a sneaking suspicion he's jester.

Vote: Qman

LURKER!

...

I posted on the same bloody page you called me a lurker on!

OMGUS!

I PLAY BY MEMORY!

UNFORTUNATELY MY MEMORY IS BAD.

Unvote

[JDodge]

I say vote gorckat cause he has the boggest wagon.

Boggest wagon? What do swamps have to do with anything?

[JDodge]

If I'm not...

Unvote, vote: No Lynch

I don't want a gorckat lynch. He's either Jester or town.

[JDodge]

Jdodge, why dont you think he is scum?
oh and good point about the jester thing. Gorckat was lying about being able to hammer himself-he was at L-2.

Guess based on the way he's playing.

[JDodge]

I voted no-lynch because I didn't think gorckat was a good lynch choice.

Now I do.

Vote: gorckat

[JDodge]

No.

[JDodge]

I care not to tell at the moment.

[JDodge]

I care not to tell at the moment.

Why not?

Because it will mess up my strategy, of course.

I know you aren't the jester, gorck. Otherwise it would be stupid to be voting you.

[JDodge]

Yes.

[JDodge]

Nothing.

But you're making me happier with my vote with every sentence.

[JDodge]

I disagree. The scum can make the town fear a lynch if they leave the jester alive.

[JDodge]

Dumbasses.

[JDodge]

Dumbasses.

I take it that you know that BM is scum...?

No, but it doesn't exactly take a brain surgeon to figure that out.

[JDodge]

IT WAS SO FREAKING OBVIOUS BM WAS SCUM.

AND THAD WAS JESTER.

[JDodge]

Damn! I had a sick feeling that I'd chosen wrong (hence the

"And I know I probably just lost the game."

part in my hammer vote)

I wish YB'd said something in his defence though. How did he hope to convince me BM was scum by just saying

"Bm is scum"

?

But, I admit, I messed this game up for the town on day 3...

BM is scum. But since nobody ever lynches BM because they just assume he's acting normally, he should never be allowed to live into an endgame situation.

[JDodge]

@Jdodge-its always obvious when the roles are revealed.

It was obvious. As a matter of fact, I was talking about this game over AIM with someone, and they asked me who I thought the scum was:

[01:44:20 PM] jdodge1019: BM is one of them, I'm guessing
[01:44:27 PM] jdodge1019: Slightly more erratic than usual

Other good quotes from that convo:

[01:46:08 PM] jdodge1019: Town's going to lose that one, I can tell
[01:46:17 PM] jdodge1019: They're all acting like morons

That conversation took place on Jul 10