NY 178: MASQUERADE -- GAME OVER

[Shiro]

But what happens when Iz flips scum, Shiro?

I never said it not possible. I mean I can see him panicking over anen having a plan he was not saying in the hood thus leading to anen demise but with us knowing about it, it kinda make him seem even worse than fighting off whatever Anen had planned.

[Boonskiies]

Which is why I believe he chose to kill Egg, as it goes with his thought process. I think we may have a second scum party/SK in our neighborhood. Thoughts on Goodmorning?

[Izariael]

Wait, so now I'm guilting for killing Egg? WHICH IS IT BOONSKIIES. DID I KILL ANENINEN OR DID I KILL EGG, OR DID I KILL ANYONE BESIDES YOU BECAUSE I WAS VYING FOR TOWNCRED.

Get your story together Boon.

[Izariael]

Like seriously...

The straw-grasping is REAL.

[Izariael]

Hmm, I missed that post.

I'm not basing it off of Anen's reads alone.

I was trying to test Iz during the night as well.

And it's a mixture of everything that has happened during the night.

Lies. You had

four posts

during the night, and

none of them were directed at me.

What

ACTUALLY

happened was this:

I claimed that I have a protective role in the thread, and also asked who people thought would be worth protecting.

To which I gave my answer: no one. You shouldn't be asking

us

to make

your

decisions for you.

However, if this was your form of "testing" me, then I've already called you out on it:

3) The majority of his scumhunting here and in neighborhood thread has to do with garnering reactions to his claim. While it's certainly valid to do so, I think limiting himself to that alone is not effective (see #2) I think a town player would be looking at multiple facets of the game, and his fixation on this one topic makes me think he could be fakeclaiming as scum and is trying to look like he's scumhunting effectively/actively.

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He said he was new to neighborhoods, yet he also gave a detailed explanation on neighborhood strategy and balance.

I offered my thoughts on the neighborhood set-up, some of which you have already misrepped and some of which I have since changed. Yes, I'm new to neighborhoods, so *GASP* I've been THINKING ABOUT THEM? What a shock!?

[AxleGreaser]

It still hasn't really sunk in for me that Aneninen flipped town.

I have no idea where to go from here.

one place you could go is...
yesterday you claimed you had legitimate reasons for voting Aneninen...
you promised to give them to the thread. 1865 you even claimed you were doing it.
you didnt.
Now that scum conveniently killed him for you....

I imagine you now have no intention of ever providing the reasons you repeatedly claimed that you had and were getting together.
What a convenient shame.

Axle can you please stop fucking posting because my access is shitty quality atm and your insistence to quote fucking every post on the page lengthens my scrolling severely.

says the man with the most posts in the thread
they are vacuous because you dont refer to what you are talking about (links nor quotes)
nor do you provide reasons as you claimed you would for your plenty of scummy things the now flipped towny did.

However me stop posting
Sure thing

prod dodge.

[Boonskiies]

Your thought process on the neighborhood from a new person's perspective doesn't sit right with me.

If there is a 4th neighborhood, specifically if you are a two person neighborhood, it would be wise to out yourself now. Iz's perspective makes me feel he KNOWS that there is a 4th neighborhood, and I believe his scum partner is in it.

[Izariael]

Boon, the one who speculated that a fourth neighborhood would exist with 2 players was ANENINEN. GO READ THE DAMN NEIGHBORHOOD THREAD.

[AxleGreaser]

The only way that becomes an issue is if everyone else treats it as a 1 v 1. Otherwise it is simply two players cross voting - aka, two wagons.

Intent is important. Doesn't the intent to spawn a 1v1 make you cringe?

It does/did me, because to "really" want a 1v1 as bad town you have to already be 100% sure the other guy is scum...
(I know he is 100% wrong but you dont) So ignoring that
However from your point of view read back and find where his 100% conviction comes from? does it even make sense?

Look at 2613, try and talk yourself into believing that at that time Garmr was on the verge of being 100% sure I was scum,
that he is nearly so sure that he wants to commit to a 1v1 (where at least his if no one elses) attention can tunnel down on his one sure scum read?

yeah bullshit.
Garmr's 1v1 is a convenient pile of an excuse. It smells of scum expedience. It is playing into his own self aware meta.

[Nero Cain]

vote:Axle

[Izariael]

Boon, Aneninen was also the one who mentioned 1/2/3/4/5/6 player neighborhoods (totaling 21 players.) Are you wanting to accuse me of that as well Boon? You're using his comments about the neighborhood set-up spec to make a scum case on me as though I said them. It's not gonna fly Boon. My comment about a 4th neighborhood was very specific. (It included a link. Check the link Boon. It's literally the only reason I ever stated for thinking a fourth neighborhood was possible.)

In fact, I posted the exact same reason for thinking a fourth neighborhood being possible here on Day 1:

If the wording of the opening neighborhood post is the same for everyone in such a hood, then I think we may have 4 neighborhoods in total (possibly with 1/4 players each?), each neighborhood being a different "corner" of the room.

I re-stated

this exact reason

in neighborhood, where I had the luxury of linking to the exact passage that it referenced. That's all I've ever mentioned about a fourth neighborhood Boon. I've never speculated beyond that or mentioned it beyond that. Everything that has followed about 4th neighborhood has been you and Aneninen.

I'm getting fed-up with your shenanigans Boon, and PR claim or not I will lynch you if you keep up this bullshit.

[T S O]

Actually, Axle, the hood asked me to do it, and I posted today that I was going to.

but, yeah, please -do- stop posting.

[Flubbernugget]

Who was in the boons/iz hood?

[Flubbernugget]

@shiro who is scum?

[Izariael]

Who was in the boons/iz hood?

Boonskiies, Shiro, goodmorning,

Aneninen

and myself

[Flubbernugget]

@Shiro can you comment on the current accusation Boons has on Iz?

[Flubbernugget]

If gm is here some commentary after Shiro's would probably help sort this out too.

[Thor665]

It's a problem if posts get lost in the noise and conversation is stopped because of it.

That is either a problem of people not reading or people not making clear points - neither are caused by intent to 1v1.

If so are you saying hes scum because he replaced in, then read, then voted? WAT?

Why do you think this is what I said?

[Boonskiies]

"While I suspect a 4th neighborhood (your corner of the Masquerade 4 corners?) I have not seen confirmation or statement of it in the thread..."

You said this, Iz.

Aneninen then replied with what you are saying. It was

you

that brought it up.

[Boonskiies]

You aren't going to flat out say your scum partner is in the 4th neighborhood.

[Boonskiies]

And your scum partner wouldn't be the one to out the neighborhood. And the townie in that final neighborhood will probably be afraid that they might be lynched, so we're in a tricky situation.

[Shiro]

@Shiro can you comment on the current accusation Boons has on Iz?

I can attest that Boon is over the top. It is kinda terrible but Anen did say he was planning something that he couldnt say in the thread and his death took it with him.

It can be unrelated though and the plan was rushed that I didnt quite realise what it was all about to begin with.

All in all I left the night thread townreading everyone in it. I dunno I think I am way too noob for those big game.

I guess you could connect Anen death to Iz but it is a thin line that had more cons that pros

[Shiro]

What boon is saying is not impossible. It makes sense but it is far fetched so to speak

[Boonskiies]

It isn't though. I'm trying not to say certain things due to the neighborhood aspect. Look at Goodmorning's last post, Shiro.

[Boonskiies]

last post in the neighbor thread.