Mini 462: Just another game of Mafia... over

[Nekka-Lucifer]

I think it means hold their voting back until day one actually starts!! Though, it would make more sense for mafia

[Nekka-Lucifer]

I don't even know if that's a joke or not :S

[Nekka-Lucifer]

Ahhh.... what a refreshing day. I'm just going to look over the pages and depending on if anyone looks scummy, I may use the dice


Oh, and I've just seen. I've practically been number 9 in every game. Coincidence? :S

[Nekka-Lucifer]

EBWOP: I won't post for a bit. got things to do.

[Nekka-Lucifer]

Ahh, ok.. I'm here now.

I've got suspicions on 3 players; names I will not say for the moment unless they start acting abit more town.

I don't like random votes anymore, so I will stick to waiting for good proof and linking it through stuff... (If anyone understands me, please say, because I don't (I do))

[Nekka-Lucifer]

Ok, I'll make it clear now... I've given it enough time, I was only suspicious of one person but by exagurating that I now have people worried and that can be a strong scum tell... Anyone catch my drift now?

[Nekka-Lucifer]

hand banana, I don't think you understand completely. I was suspicous about one person, but by exagurating, some people got worried. Pro-town don't get worried if they are suspected by 1 person, even if it is just the 2nd page.

In other words; you are looking quite scummy...

[Nekka-Lucifer]

It seemed like a good trick to pull as Mafia would get worried and so an easy choice of a vote

[Nekka-Lucifer]

EBWOP: Sorry.

[Nekka-Lucifer]

It was actually you, hand banana. It was weak proof, I must admit but you got shocked, first person to say IVE NOT DONE ANYTHING and the allsorts for that matter

If I was in your position (Which is always hard because we dont know his role) then I would have said, you seem scum, Vote: so and so...

I wouldn't have said all that other stuff... To myself, I don't seem to be making much sense so I really feel sorry for the rest of you.

[Nekka-Lucifer]

EBWOP: you also seem to think you are incharge, saying

i'd like inactive players to take part in the game, or be prodded.

instead of something like
Mod: Can we get a prod on the inactive players (btw I don't forward the motion to get a prod)

[Nekka-Lucifer]

lol, I've just seen the 2nd page vote count, and where Jenter voted Tarhalindur, but said Tarwhatsyamacallit, that's what the Mod actually put

[Nekka-Lucifer]

I thought it was just worth making a point

[Nekka-Lucifer]

@hand banana:- If you play agressively, why aren't you attacking me, this seems wierd to me. It seems you had partial evidence to claim me as scum, but you seem to have backed off. I feel his claim for agressive play was just a blanket incase he wanted to band-wagon...

[Nekka-Lucifer]

EBWOP: Not claiming you as scum, I just want an explanation for now.

[Nekka-Lucifer]

EBWOP: Not claiming you as scum, I just want an explanation for now.

it seems you have partially neglected to explain (or you didn't see the post)
Anyway, that deserves a

Vote: Hand Banana

in my books

[Nekka-Lucifer]

Post 99: That has to be the scummiest post I have ever seen in my life.

He neglects to explain his justifications ONLY because he doesn't feel like it. He could say he'll get back to it but he obviously doesn't.

Then he goes on to say that he has found all 3 scum. Anyone else feel like voting him yet?

[Nekka-Lucifer]

Once again, he ignores my statement about him explaining himself. I'm FULLY convinced he's scum now, unless he comes up with a full-proof explanation w/out any loopholes, or anything for that matter.

In other words, I wont be changing my vote from now till Day 2.

[Nekka-Lucifer]

According to his opening posts about agression, he isn't showing much of it.

[Nekka-Lucifer]

Oh, while I'm here, I would just like to ask if anyone has been making a vote leaf diagram thing of this game?

[Nekka-Lucifer]

Actually I read somewhere that only 73% of statistics on the web are true and the rest false. But on tv, it goes up to 98.2% that are true. (Actual figures)

[Nekka-Lucifer]

After that, I feel that he has no choice to understand his inquiry. He probably will get suspected by most town to be scum, though we will need the support of all town except 2/3 unless the mafia decides that he is a lost cause and also votes him

Making it simple, it's explain or get lynched.

[Nekka-Lucifer]

@Khel: You can use the EBWOP (Edit but with-out post...) when you forget something in mafia games.

Hand banana... He's just confusing, a lost cause, and a failure. I officially stick my vote and will not change till day 2...

[Nekka-Lucifer]

Wow, I've obviously missed out on alot of content while I was away. I just want to raise suspicion back onto Hand Banana, personally I don't believe his claim. The suspicion I would like to raise is on Post 127. In the last bit, didn't he outloy his future plan to catch scum, or did I misread it?

[Nekka-Lucifer]

Are my posts invisible now that conversation has started up again? I was making a very useful statement and seeing if it was right or wrong. (Post 153)

[Nekka-Lucifer]

panzer you scum, you are so going down tonight.

I'm sorry, but this seems to set off the final alarm of scum tells... (Apart from 2 which I will not say as he will probably avoid doing)

[Nekka-Lucifer]

Outloy:- I would say is the dictation of something. Basically telling someone something. Just a smart way of saying telling. Hope that helps

[Nekka-Lucifer]

I'm sorry, but I have to OMGUS hand banana and khelvaster

Hand banana for his idiocracy of saying that he will kill XXX and if YYY and ZZZ is killed, he is confirmed scum... NOT TRUE. Now that he has said this, if he was pro-town then the scum will catch onto this and lynch XXX or even decide that they will not lynch and see only one lynch being XXX... I hope you catch my drift so far

Adding to that, if he was scum then the scum will OBVIOUSLY lynch XXX if it means that they keep a player in their little scum group.
Another thing I would like to point out is he says if he is scum, there will be 2 night kill things (YYY and ZZZ) meaning he has come out with a serial killer or some other thing. In other words, it's incredibally likely after that one little mistake that we have already caught a SK if there is one of course.

Now, Khel... He says that Hand Banana is CONFIRMED vig and there is nothing else to it. For this mistake, it's either a horrible pro-town mistake or a Scum buddie situation (Which isn't the case if HB is SK)

That's all from me...

[Nekka-Lucifer]

Ok, sorry for not posting, I had a really big post and it came up with the quota I'll get back to sending it when I remember what I said. Sorry for inconvinience.

[Nekka-Lucifer]

Just one thing FOR NOW, are Masons any useful to the town (seeming we have any)

[Nekka-Lucifer]

I am most amazingly menacing after such one night, if we lynch two people. Though could there be 3 kills (SK vig and mafia) or is that INCREDIBALLY unlikely?

Oh, and as for the unseen post:-

Hand banana, I apolagise for things between us and I will

Unvote

but depending on the next day I may put back on and ATTACK... (slight quote there from a song, but you can forget it)

Also, I was attacking Khel in the previous post but I've forgoten what it was so I will lay off for the moment.

[Nekka-Lucifer]

Looks like everyones onto Khel...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he defend Hand Banana

[Nekka-Lucifer]

I think I missed that and will browse over asap...

[Nekka-Lucifer]

To Nekka

:

Wow, I've obviously missed out on alot of content while I was away. I just want to raise suspicion back onto Hand Banana, personally I don't believe his claim. The suspicion I would like to raise is on Post 127. In the last bit, didn't he outloy his future plan to catch scum, or did I misread it?

Could you clarify this? I'm not sure what you mean by "outloy" (English not being my first language), and I'm not sure what exactly you find suspicious about hand banana's post 127.

Outloy:- I would say is the dictation of something. Basically telling someone something. Just a smart way of saying telling. Hope that helps

Why is "telling" a future plan to catch scum a scummy action?

Sorry, the website went down as I was answering your question FOR THE SECOND TIME (damn server)...

The answer is that if he gives his plan , then the scum will obviously know how he's going to implement it and not do what he is looking for... It's that obvious and I really wonder why some people didn't catch on.

Now for Hand Banana... I feel he is just a lost and confused vig in a counterclaiming world (Except the counterclaim part, I just needed something to fit ). 2 things wrong with his fight...

Also, he claims to have found at least one scum (post 90) or even three scum (post 99), but he didn't give any reasons.

these are simply lies..
id didn't like his style here at all. i think he just picked up on nekka's mistake and he's trying to exaggerate arguments against me. and then he starts making them up.

Not true, you DID say this a while back:-

i also think we need more pro-town players in this discussion, cause i feel that all 3 scum are actively participating, and we won't be able to do much in a situation like that.

I took away some brackets so it's easier to read

Then,

Remember, being town doesn't mean you're going to decide correctly. Also, we can't actually be sure you're protown. Giving a possible scum a free nightkill of his choice would be terribly stupid.

when i asked about "what free nightkill" and pointed out that scum already
has a nightkill, he answered:

"That's why giving them an extra free nightkill would be disastrous."

i really didn't understand this, and it puzzled me for a very long time.
if i was scum, i wouldn't get an "extra free kill" by just a mere belief from town that i'm vig. and this came after i claimed. so he's making stuff up again, and subtly implying that i should be lynched.

What I think he means, is that if you're about to lynch a power role and they strongly claim against it, then the mafia could lynch them then... Ever think of that?

That's all from me

[Nekka-Lucifer]

EBWOP: Mainly aiming somewhere onwards near solving this wild goose chase... We're at page 11. Although, we do have the Khel situation...

[Nekka-Lucifer]

Breadcrumbing is good, but saying you have breadcrumbed is bad... Makes people look for it INCLUDING SCUM... Breadcrumbing is mainly used to support a claim in later game incase you are lynched.. If you say you have breadcrumbed but don't point it out. No-one may believe you except scum which will get you NKed

[Nekka-Lucifer]

Just seen, ac1983fan's thoughts on monday.... ...

[Nekka-Lucifer]

For Khel:- Why are you telling us to seek it? If you were near to lynch/in trouble, you wouldn't say... I BREADCRUMBED, GO FIND IT... That would probably be a wild goose chase, and breadcrumbs are for future REFERANCE where you can explain it, or people can find them and say something else to get off your back as they feel you are a power role but don't want to out you.

So, either give up telling us the breadcrumbs and wait till you're nearer lynch, OR come right out and say it.

[Nekka-Lucifer]

Ok, I really don't understand if anyone actually

does

know what he is claiming to be

Oh, and Happy Birthday Hand Banana, just because I attacked you earlier, doesn't mean I shouldn't say it...

Hip Hip...

[Nekka-Lucifer]

I see what you're claiming, but you can't pull that one off till you actually use it and tell the rest. I'm glad I'm still not voting anyone...

[Nekka-Lucifer]

Oh, but

Vote: Jenter Brolincani

for bringing Khel out to claim... He MUST have seen that he will only claim at -2 and that he is just trying to see what role he is.

[Nekka-Lucifer]

No, sorry, can't find it.

I'll

unvote

anyway. Seriously, this game is confusing me really badly. Sorry I'm being so little use, but it's a steep learning curve for me.

Khelvaster's post 298 makes it very clear that he's claiming cop.

I'm a little mistrustful of the cop claim (it's not too hard for a mafioso to claim cop and start claiming innocent results on players who are known to be pro-town - after all, if they get called out on it, they can bus a scumbuddy...), but the fact remains that Khelvaster is, for the time being, an uncounterclaimed cop, and we shouldn't lynch an uncounterclaimed cop on Day 1.

Unvote

Well done for blantently telling everyone that it's a cop claim... Due to his post records the first post isn't included because I think it's a /confirm post

Not everyone would have found it, making scum finding it less! And you just happened to tell everyone after I made a DISCREET chat about it to Khel while you told everyone...

I would vote Panzerjager now, but he's got 4 votes already, two of which are from players who are likely to be replaced (roland's random vote and elias's vote from several pages back). FAKEVOTE: Panzerjager pending replacements.

I'll look at getting up a PBPA on Panzerjager later tonight.

[Nekka-Lucifer]

No, sorry, can't find it.

I'll

unvote

anyway. Seriously, this game is confusing me really badly. Sorry I'm being so little use, but it's a steep learning curve for me.

Khelvaster's post 298 makes it very clear that he's claiming cop.

I'm a little mistrustful of the cop claim (it's not too hard for a mafioso to claim cop and start claiming innocent results on players who are known to be pro-town - after all, if they get called out on it, they can bus a scumbuddy...), but the fact remains that Khelvaster is, for the time being, an uncounterclaimed cop, and we shouldn't lynch an uncounterclaimed cop on Day 1.

Unvote

I'll look at getting up a PBPA on Panzerjager later tonight.

Well done for blantently telling everyone that it's a cop claim... Due to his post records the first post isn't included because I think it's a /confirm post

Not everyone would have found it, making scum finding it less! And you just happened to tell everyone after I made a DISCREET chat about it to Khel while you told everyone...

I would vote Panzerjager now, but he's got 4 votes already, two of which are from players who are likely to be replaced (roland's random vote and elias's vote from several pages back). FAKEVOTE: Panzerjager pending replacements.

EBWOP: I put it in the wrong bit due to a forward/back situation (Forward/back throughout the website till I came back to this)

[Nekka-Lucifer]

Ahh, well I didn't think of the doc protection part... I guess I can let you off, but it is kinda telling people that he claims cop, and that includes mafia. I guess I have to remember this for future games.

For now

Unvote

I also want to remind everyone that HB is not a confirmed vig. I'm also gonna do some in depth read through of what vigs do and stategies they can implement.

Also, apologies for English skills so far. Personally when I skim through my posts, I can't see many errors but I guess I can't put that flaw down to anything on my character except mabye I can be clumsy? I have no idea.

Oh, and remind me again what Roland looked like before he was replaced. Did he act scummy or any of the allsorts?

[Nekka-Lucifer]

My acute son only night protects a reaper the next era. Remembering alot leaning somewhere leant everywhere except that way can be confusing.
It's apart of my English Homework that makes the brain wonder... (It's really some wierd famous person's but I copied off the t'internet)

Anyway, back to the game. I think we let one live.

Say one claims someone as guilty. Then say that we lynch that person and he comes up the real cop. We have found a mafia!! (Unless sanity becomes an issue)

Say we lynch the other person... then (if HB is vig) we can nk him. Or if he isn't we can lynch next day!

[Nekka-Lucifer]

It says you are masons with alsleet and win with the town when all town threats are gone... and also, hav* no special abilities

*Mods spelling mistake, not mine

are you guys kidding me..
when i saw the title "Just another game of Mafia..." i expected just the opposite, but this..... omg

I think the words sarcasm and irony come to mind