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Post Post #2375 (ISO) » Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:16 pm

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In post 2365, T S O wrote:lots of these don't make sense.

thats not a case

it fails this test
In post 1048, AxleGreaser wrote:I will expect you to show me the stuff that you saw back then that is so bad(disgreed with) (not just that it is unarguably bad) but that you conclude for it to be that bad Aneninen must be or is quite likely to be scum, because as town he would not be that bad.


at best you have argued Aneninen is not a good player.
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Post Post #2376 (ISO) » Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:17 pm

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Re: Anen read. I'm not necessarily asking for this from TSO at this time. Anyone voting Anen who has a reason for it feel free to answer.
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Post Post #2377 (ISO) » Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:19 pm

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In post 1048, AxleGreaser wrote:I will expect you to show me the stuff that you saw back then that is so bad(disgreed with) (not just that it is unarguably bad) but that you conclude for it to be that bad Aneninen must be or is quite likely to be scum, because as town he would not be that bad.


can you show me one piece of evidence from my ISO which fits this. or anyone's. doesn't even have to be this game. as long as it's not a scum qt slip or some shit.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #2378 (ISO) » Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:19 pm

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In post 2374, goodmorning wrote:
In post 2364, TierShift wrote:CAN THE AXLE TSO SHITSTORM STOP

VOTE: pere
pere you are not in my huge pool of townreads and I feel super comfortable sheeping egg and anen is not scum :3

This is also a reminder to myself that I should stop putting stock in TSO's reads.

this post is oddly disquieting

YOUR ISO WILL COME TOMORROW

why?

List of ISO's for the near future: gm muffin pere garmr nero cain
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Post Post #2379 (ISO) » Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:58 pm

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If I knew then it wouldn't be odd.
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Post Post #2380 (ISO) » Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:02 pm

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Start with which word, or words, were disquieting. Focus less on the oddly part.
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Post Post #2381 (ISO) » Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:07 pm

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In post 2379, goodmorning wrote:If I knew then it wouldn't be odd.

Why is everything so vague with you this game?
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Post Post #2382 (ISO) » Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:12 pm

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In post 2377, T S O wrote:
In post 1048, AxleGreaser wrote:I will expect you to show me the stuff that you saw back then that is so bad(disgreed with) (not just that it is unarguably bad) but that you conclude for it to be that bad Aneninen must be or is quite likely to be scum, because as town he would not be that bad.


can you show me one piece of evidence from my ISO which fits this. or anyone's. doesn't even have to be this game. as long as it's not a scum qt slip or some shit.


In this
you made zero steps in that direction. I dont think you are that bad at town.

You showed and made no mention of scum intent.
You did not show he was under pressure and flailing. or ...
you did not show anything alignment indicative and say "it was alignment indicative for reason X".

For you Anenine is bad == lynch him

whereas with Csaero you knew that Csaero being bad did not make him scum

That is you being worse than I can reasonably imagine you being as town.

How did you do that as scum? (after all getting scum PM doesnt IME make you stupid.)
You made a mistake, you misjudged whether or not anyone would call you to account for not a having real reason for voting Aneninen.
and now when you look at his filter while it has things from back then that you can call bad, it does not have things you can legitimately call scummy.

You also hypocritically misrep Aneninen right there " him thinking he can read Thor perfectly with 1-1 sampling,"
No. while he does give Thor a fairly solid town read, the words he actually used tell a story different to the one you make up.
Aneninen said: "Thor is town. His posts are good, they are about scumhunting. (Also, I've seen town-Thor and scum-Thor –
though
only 1–1 games – and This is Town-thor. He's another player I'd sheep if needed ^_^)"
he used the 1-1 as specific qualification of his accuracy, "
though
only 1–1 games"
at no point there does he say he can read Thor perfectly, that is a bit you made up.
His Thor read is also rather obviously based on what Aneninen regards as good posts in this game. Here is him linking one, in the very same post you claim is
scummy
.
(pedit: actually you dont, you only say it is "don't make sense.")
In post 418, Aneninen wrote:Thor, – goodpost.



Its hypocritical as you claimed Aneninen could comment on your meta () of not lurking based on less than 1 game para 3....
Then later challenged us(unamed) to find where you had played with him?
Its almost like you are not reading and thinking about the posts of the guy you scum read.

You are starting with the answer you want "Aneninen is
scum
does not make sense" then retro fitting facts.
That is not how townies play,
Youre scum.
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Post Post #2383 (ISO) » Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:30 pm

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In post 2368, AxleGreaser wrote:
In post 2364, TierShift wrote:CAN THE AXLE TSO SHITSTORM STOP

k


if you dont like shouting for effect.

this is odd.
In post 2378, TierShift wrote:YOUR ISO WILL COME TOMORROW


also I suppose its just personal thing, but i really dont like promises, I like Yoda
There is no try(promise), there is only do or not do.

Yoda, (like skip) is never scum
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Post Post #2384 (ISO) » Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:33 pm

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also just to be clear, I interpreted the call for the SHITSTORM to end to be an appeal for less outrageous display of mock anger..
(and the fact that it (the call for an end) was in capitals to be parody)
hence 2378 is odd.
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Post Post #2385 (ISO) » Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:59 pm

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In post 2357, Thor665 wrote:
In post 2352, davesaz wrote:I don't see the big "we gotta lynch someone" that I'd expect from town

I did that for a while.
Then people acted like everything was great or that I was a jerk being holier-than-thou.

So I stopped caring.
I embrace the derp lynch that will soon happen, and the joy of watching people comment on Day 4 that some of the votes are "hard to read".

Acts holier than us, in a post claiming to be upset for being called out on being holier than thou. Grade A trolling, 10/10 would get trolled again.

Do us all a favour and drop the appeals to emotion pls.
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Post Post #2386 (ISO) » Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:38 pm

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also
@Garmr
you have been gone for a while and have catching up to do.
dont miss &

@thread
unless as per and things change, I am kinda (AFAIK) committed to a PereV lynch today.
given the time and the apparent lack of enthusiasm for it I intend not to be voting TSO again today.

I would however of course hammer it (based on my recent post), unless of course he somehow suddenly became town.
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Post Post #2387 (ISO) » Fri Oct 24, 2014 4:00 pm

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In post 2365, T S O wrote:feel really awful about not posting that godSmurf case so here's something. lots of these don't make sense. specifically, him thinking he can read Thor perfectly with 1-1 sampling, Cho being scum for voting me (also scum), etc.

You have shown evidence that he is playing weakly, I suppose, as I agree that meta based off 1-1 is hardly deep and accurate.
That said, I see no evidence that town him would *not* do these things and fail to see the scumgenda.

In post 2372, TierShift wrote:I see Pere has been online. Pere, if you think you won't get back before deadline, please claim now, as it looks you are going to be run up to L-1 soon. No claim because V/LA won't be accepted.

He has claimed Neighbor with Pere and I - so basically VT with a QT.
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Post Post #2388 (ISO) » Fri Oct 24, 2014 4:00 pm

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*Egg and I
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Post Post #2389 (ISO) » Fri Oct 24, 2014 4:36 pm

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I still think TSO is a better lynch but I will come back just before deadline to hammer if necessary
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Post Post #2390 (ISO) » Fri Oct 24, 2014 4:50 pm

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In post 2350, Aegor wrote:
Votecount 1.19


[6]
PeregrineV:
Egg, Thor665, Scripten, The Fonz, AxleGreaser, davesaz
[5]
Aneninen:
Shiro*, TierShift, Garmr, T S O, PeregrineV
[4]
Thor665:
goodmorning, Nero Cain, flubbernugget, Izariael
[1]
goodmorning:
Slandaar
[1]
T S O:
Muffin
[1]
Shiro:
Grayfoxxxx

[3]
Not Voting:
beastcharizard, Aneninen, Boonskiies

@Muffin - yeah, because that wagon is totally about to spring into action with you offering a vote move.

Pere is at L-5, and is the runaway lead wagon.
There are three days left.
The gak?
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Post Post #2391 (ISO) » Fri Oct 24, 2014 4:57 pm

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In post 2381, TierShift wrote:
In post 2379, goodmorning wrote:If I knew then it wouldn't be odd.

Why is everything so vague with you this game?

idk, i just feel vague?
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Post Post #2392 (ISO) » Fri Oct 24, 2014 5:40 pm

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Were you planning to ever get around to that analysis of the wagon on me and how you feel about your co-voters and their reasons I asked for you to do?
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Post Post #2393 (ISO) » Fri Oct 24, 2014 5:42 pm

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In post 1997, goodmorning wrote:Alright, it's on the list. I'm at home all day tomorrow so...

You promised to do it Tuesday, functionally.
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Post Post #2394 (ISO) » Fri Oct 24, 2014 7:24 pm

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@TSO: 677 is false (though phrased as a question, there's a clear accusation there). Claiming that he didn't respond to your #420 is false (oh, and you mean rebut, not refute). Claiming his vote on you was reasonless as opposed to poorly-reasoned is false.

Essentially, he, for whatever reason, interprets your 'I don't agree with anything' as 'I'll never agree with anything,' you point out this makes no sense, but then seemingly due to this, you dismiss out of hand his subsequent better point, that it seems contradictory to dismiss csareo's 'meta' of you because of small sample size, but then to expect other people to know
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Post Post #2395 (ISO) » Fri Oct 24, 2014 7:29 pm

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... your meta off of one game. Feels like he's understandably aggrieved by this.

I'd also like to know why you bothered to quote his RVS vote if it's neither to call him scummy nor bad.
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Post Post #2396 (ISO) » Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:21 pm

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In post 2390, Thor665 wrote:
In post 2350, Aegor wrote:
Votecount 1.19


[6]
PeregrineV:
Egg, Thor665, Scripten, The Fonz, AxleGreaser, davesaz
[5]
Aneninen:
Shiro*, TierShift, Garmr, T S O, PeregrineV
[4]
Thor665:
goodmorning, Nero Cain, flubbernugget, Izariael
[1]
goodmorning:
Slandaar
[1]
T S O:
Muffin
[1]
Shiro:
Grayfoxxxx

[3]
Not Voting:
beastcharizard, Aneninen, Boonskiies

@Muffin - yeah, because that wagon is totally about to spring into action with you offering a vote move.

Pere is at L-5, and is the runaway lead wagon.
There are three days left.
The gak?

Dunno what you mean by "the gak" but TSO is a quality vote and you should sheep it for great justice
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Post Post #2397 (ISO) » Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:23 pm

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In post 2383, AxleGreaser wrote:
In post 2368, AxleGreaser wrote:
In post 2364, TierShift wrote:CAN THE AXLE TSO SHITSTORM STOP

k


if you dont like shouting for effect.

I don't like your argument, but shouting for effect is...decent when not used too often I spose.

this is odd.
In post 2378, TierShift wrote:YOUR ISO WILL COME TOMORROW

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Post Post #2398 (ISO) » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:02 am

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In post 2389, Muffin wrote:I still think TSO is a better lynch but I will come back just before deadline to hammer if necessary


you voted me for apparently not having reasons to vote pere
I proved you were spouting shit
now I'm still a great vote? w o w
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Post Post #2399 (ISO) » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:02 am

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just not gonna respond to axle. I know I've said this so many times but I really need to stop it.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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