Mini 442 - Beast Wars Mafia Game Over

[Albert B. Rampage]

-He could just be bored...which would make me really frustrated with him later on, if we find that out.

Stuck in my cell
The pen ain't nuttin like the county jail
When will they let me bail?

[JordanA24]

-He could just be bored...which would make me really frustrated with him later on, if we find that out.

Stuck in my cell
The pen ain't nuttin like the county jail

When will they let me bail?

Are you saying that you/we could somehow lift your restriction by doing a certain action?

[Save The Dragons]

Work sucks the life out of me.

Unvote

since I forgot.

I apologize for my tardiness, but I'm still not caught up yet. But make no mistake, I'm not going to be replaced.

[ryan]

-He could just be bored...which would make me really frustrated with him later on, if we find that out.
/quote]

Stuck in my cell
The pen ain't nuttin like the county jail
When will they let me bail?

Am I reading into this too much or is ABR fingering Fraggle to be scum and waiting for us to get through the day and to night so he can night kill him?

[FraggleScum]

-He could just be bored...which would make me really frustrated with him later on, if we find that out.
/quote]

Stuck in my cell
The pen ain't nuttin like the county jail
When will they let me bail?

Am I reading into this too much or is ABR fingering Fraggle to be scum and waiting for us to get through the day and to night so he can night kill him?

Whoa...I really hope that's not it. Maybe he was saying that I was right...and he really is bored and just posting that way?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Whoa...I really hope that's not it. Maybe he was saying that I was right...and he really is bored and just posting that way?

Now how can I explain how this game laced, plus with this fame
I got enemies do anything to break me, my attitude changed
Got to the point where I was driven, twenty-four/seven

Unvote

[ryan]

-He could just be bored...which would make me really frustrated with him later on, if we find that out.
/quote]

Stuck in my cell
The pen ain't nuttin like the county jail
When will they let me bail?

Am I reading into this too much or is ABR fingering Fraggle to be scum and waiting for us to get through the day and to night so he can night kill him?

Whoa...I really hope that's not it. Maybe he was saying that I was right...and he really is bored and just posting that way?

Is it possible that when somebody is lynched than he is able to spill the beans on who one of the mafia is? Who have you voted for so far Fraggle?

[FraggleScum]

Whoa...I really hope that's not it. Maybe he was saying that I was right...and he really is bored and just posting that way?

Now how can I explain how this game laced, plus with this fame
I got enemies do anything to break me, my attitude changed
Got to the point where I was driven, twenty-four/seven

Unvote

Well, that's good...I hope. I'm going to assume that as something good.

[FraggleScum]

-He could just be bored...which would make me really frustrated with him later on, if we find that out.
/quote]

Stuck in my cell
The pen ain't nuttin like the county jail
When will they let me bail?

Am I reading into this too much or is ABR fingering Fraggle to be scum and waiting for us to get through the day and to night so he can night kill him?

Whoa...I really hope that's not it. Maybe he was saying that I was right...and he really is bored and just posting that way?

Is it possible that when somebody is lynched than he is able to spill the beans on who one of the mafia is? Who have you voted for so far Fraggle?

I hadn't voted yet...I fingered Jordan a few pages back, because he had done some things which seemed inconsistent to me. I was thinking we would have more replacements and more information by now...and that hasn't happened.

When I did finger Jordan and was questioning Lowell...Albert voted for me, and he now just removed it. I still am not sure what that means.

[Sweenytodd]

What about the thought that ABR is a SK? SweenyTodd?

Sorry I haven't been as active this past week, I've been super busy with school. As for what I see, I think the notion that the mod would give to a Serial Killer a posting restriction to post violent lyrics is ridiculous... The serial killer is a tough enough role without standing out because of a posting restriction... I my thought on Albert's restriction is simply he is required to post in rhyme or verse and simply chooses music he likes and may or may not have too much bearing on the game...

Stuck in my cell
The pen ain't nuttin like the county jail
When will they let me bail?

To me this quote says that he is frustrated with his posting restriction and has a tough time being enthusiastic in this game not being able to post normally...

I apologize for my tardiness, but I'm still not caught up yet. But make no mistake, I'm not going to be replaced.

I absolutely understand STD but please try to give us your thoughts before we reach the deadline...

Sorry if I missed it. What's the deadline and deadline lynch rules?

Jordan got this one right, I PM'd the mod and it will take 7 to lynch at deadline which means we have a week to find scum... That said, my current suspicions are Jordan and Albert though I realize his posting restriction is frustrating and possibly affects my reading of him. I have never seen the case against Lowell as substantial so unless something changes in a week I don't think I'll be voting for him... I would like to here from everyone ASAP because we need to come to an agreement on a lynch to prevent no-lynch and that requires everyone's input. And I realize my vote is on STD and that will move as soon as he posts content, or before the deadline whichever comes first...

[ryan]

Sweenytodd: I'm not saying ABR has to post violent lyrics per say, but I think it's obvious that he has to post some sort of lyric or song as far as posting. I'll have to do some checking but I also noticed ABR seems to be able to post whenever somebody mentions him by name. I don't think he's scummish but he's definetly not a real big help in finding scum right now. Lowell had another scummy confrontations in the beginning for me to keep my vote there for now but Aimee for some reason is also starting to make me wonder if she's scum. A few early game good posts but alot of lurking since. I'll keep my vote where it is for now

[Sweenytodd]

I'm not saying ABR has to post violent lyrics per say, but I think it's obvious that he has to post some sort of lyric or song as far as posting.

My comment was more directed to fraggle...

If it is a certain restriction he has...then he probably has some sort of special role. I went back and read his posts/poems and they really hint at a possible vigilante or serial killer role. A lot of them are "I'm all alone against the system" kind of writings....just a thought.

I thought the idea of Albert as a SK came from here which is what I was commenting on in my post, not directed at you per say Ryan but good to have your thoughts... Aimee has lurked a lot but also provided insight... Plus I think she may be still getting back into things from her time away from the game so I'm looking forward to more contribution...

Ryan: Just to make sure I read your post correctly, your top suspects atm are Lowell and Aimee?

[chaotic_diablo]

Clarification on deadline.

June 20 at anytime I wish. Town must decide on an action through normal standards, not by majority. Seven to lynch before deadline or a no lynch will occur.

[ryan]

Sweenytodd: I agree that Aimee has given us some insight but I still feel the one liners haven't been much to offer and have been more of fillers than content helpers. Lowell is still my #1, than to be honest Aimee or STD. I don't like being promised some content and than not delivered, whenever that happens it always feels like somebody is posting something to get suspicion thrown off of them and than hope that the game forgets. ABR's content has been.......well "Different" to say the least (lol) I'm no sure I'm board with going after him but the SK theory has been thrown out (by myself as well) but I suppose he could be mafia and doing it to throw off suspicion (I mean look back through the thread, alot has been made of his lyrics) Unfortunately playing enough games with Albie he can annoying as hell and could have just imposed the restriction on himself to mess with us (that would be very ABR like)

[FraggleScum]

I am probably the one who keeps bringing up Albert's posts the most...but I think I am just gonna stop trying to figure those all out. I don't think he should be the lynch today, he may be playing different, but he has voted and posted regularly. And I agree...he isn't an SK with a post restriction.


@Sweeny: My quote that you posted above was from a ways back...I think even Albert's strange lyrical posting has evened out a bit since then.


My vote is leaning toward the players we have heard from the least. I don't know what to do about the replacements coming in (whenever the heck that happens)...but Aimee, STD, Hackerhuck, and Trustgossip need to come back in here and contribute. Right now, I think one of them should be the lynch today.

[ryan]

FraggleScum: Agreed on some content from those 4, especially STD who promised content when he replaced and we haven't really seen anything since. HackerHuck seemed to drop some town like tendencies early and I thought was beneficial to the game but than kind of fell off and has been quiet (still posting in other forums on the board I saw, so I know he's around) TrustGossip started out well and than kind of flamed out too. Getting 7 to agree in a short period of time (I realize 7 days away but still we've been plodding along for awhile now) is going to be difficult and I think a no-lynch will be a bad town move for Day 1.

[Save The Dragons]

\(O_O)/

I did it!

[Save The Dragons]

When I saw that the game was Beast Wars, I was hoping it would be like

animals fighting each other. Like, "RAWR! I'm a lion! I'm going to

kill you and sleep with your females!" But I guess not.

Albert B. Rampage: Rapper in training, or person with post

restriction? That took way too long for you guys to catch that.

Well if we are outta the "random voting stage"

Than..........

Unvote: deezr
Vote: Lowell

Who else saw this coming?

But to be honest, ryan, my first impression of you was wrong. You're

better than I thought you were.

AND voting because somebody ruined "another game you

were in"

That was Overtheunder voting for Lowell, not the other way around.

unvote

,

vote: ryan

, you understand that

playing it safe isn't actually that good a strategy for town?

Especially since you seem convinced Lowell is scum too.

Hmmm. You didn't really explain why playing it safe is bad for the

town, and I'm kinda curious what you have to say about ryan, cuz it

looks to me like you just jumped on the wagon and tried to take HH's

reasoning but misread what he said.

I'm not suggesting we should sacrifice you to gain information but I'm

willing to put you in danger to get some.

I see...

All that said, I'm no longer sure you're scum, if for

no other reason than because this connection between you and Jordan is

becoming too intense-- I would have expected a little distancing by

now if you were both scum.

Boo! Hiss! You dropped down a few notches on the pro-town list with

that one. Except that you're not scum. But still.

Lowell, WTF?! You are the worst scum I've come

across in a long time

he's not scum, though. I just said that.

What the hell does this comment mean?

Obviously trustgossip is losing his scumpartner, teffc, to some new

stranger he'll have to get to know and love.

Oh, I wish I was in this game sooner. I'd have had so much fun.

Just count yourself lucky I'm so convinced Lowell is scum, or you'll

be at lynch -2 now, you've just made my scumdar jump up and fly out of

the window.

There's your distancing, Lowell.

Thanks for misreading my post. I said

that when people try and fly under the radar it makes it easier for us

to vote them off because they aren't contributing anyway. Obviously

your scumdar needs a few screws tightened because it's WAY off if you

think I'm scum

Oh right, sorry.

At least my scumdar returned.

That's right! You slap your partner into shape!

Two of our quietest players are now gone, agreed, this

could be bad for us townies

Us townies, eh?

Ryan's post 163 is solid. Some of his other posts...well...aren't. But

163 is more important than posts like 174.

I found it funny that Ryan called Sweenytodd new even though

Sweenytodd signed up 10 days before Ryan (then again...I don't know

either of your pre-MS experience).

Sweenytodd gets a slap on the wrist for falling to peer pressure. Not

that it's a bad thing, but the following is scummy.

Trust: I recognize that L-2 is a dangerous spot

to place Ryan in, I considered not doing it but decided to get myself

on the record where I stood in my initial post. I realize that we

need more discussion from most parties involved in this game and so I

will

Unvote: Ryan

simply to be safe. This doesn't lessen my

impression that Ryan is scum, but I will play it safe to promote

discussion....

We can sit around singing Kumbaya and holding

hands until someone slips up and admits to being scum, or we can start

putting pressure on people and see what comes of it.

I thought that a lot of shit was being passed around at this

point...am I reading the same game you did?

Also, how are bandwagons inherently bad? I am of the belief we need a

random bandwagon to start day 1.

We...

need

...random bandwagons?

Lowell is clearly not scum. Joseph...I mean...uh...Jordan, you tell me

in your own words why you think Lowell is scum.

IMPORTANT NOTE: Anyone who takes this game too seriously

*coughryancough* is going to find a lot more people scummy.

I'll be honest, I think Jordan is town and he hasn't

done anything (as of now) that makes me suspicious.

You don't find the whole "I'm going to latch onto the first wagon I

see and use rhetoric like "Lowell is scum all the way hands down three

ways to Sunday," " thing to be a little odd?

Ok, maybe that's because it's pretty subtle.

Hey. I wonder if the scum are going to be all out batshit insane wierd

strange posting (Lowell) or if they're going to give subtle tells

(Jordan). Tell me which one of those scenarios is more likely.

Right, here's what I think:

Scum: Lowell
FraggleScum

WHY?

Yay!

Oh wait. You've been fairly quiet about your own suspicions,

HackerHuck...

Tell us, HH! Who's the scum? Is it that cute girl from across the

street? The angry bag boy at the grocery store? Or how about that emo

kid that nobody likes who cuts himself during class with pencil lead?

I've already given loads of reasoning for Lowell

(why isn't he dead yet?),

Quote yourself. It's hecka tech. I'm holding you to this. You said you

gave loads of reasoning, and then when confronted by Aimee later on,

you quoted Lowell, not yourself. You also insisted to HackerHuck that

you already said all of this. So...uh...quote it plz.

Wait a second. You just said you didn't like Albert's

post restriction ("because it makes it tough on him and makes him post

less") BUT than said "I can't think of why any of us would be post

restricted?" Huh???

You're giving me an anyerism. Yes, I'm aware I can't spell that word.

Have you thought that this is maybe Lowell's playstyle

at all?

I so <3 you right now.

Unvote

,

Vote: Lowell

I so </3 you right now.

That is ridiculous.... NO ONE in any frame of mind

would breadcrumb SK... That makes no sense...

Oh man. You don't know how much I want to do that in a game just to

see if I could get away with it.

I've got two scum now. Ryan and Albert. Discuss.

No on both.

Post restriction or not, Albert is playing a very

solid game.

He was until he started voting for Lowell.

I've made numerous good points about Lowell, me and

Ryan just happen to have the same opinion, but I've already said,

there's absolutely no connection between us.

My god, you really are scumpartners!

And Ryan, this isn't for you to answer. So don't. Let Jordan answer

first, so that I can finally see 100% what his case is.

Remeber what I said about that <3 thing? Yeah, I meant it.

Oh, you didn't do anything suspicious.
Hmm, except for echoing my opinions on every single person in the game

instead of coming up with your own ranking.

Dude, not only that, but:

And of course, I am loath to do anything in the absence of two

replacements that

we should have already, Mod, please

.

I do not feel comfortable casting a vote until we can hear from input

from absent players or their replacements.

This guy is practically trying to become you.

Nice save, Ryan (post 259)! You came so close to picking a certain

part of Aimee's post that was superfluous for you to talk about (258).

But you correctly answered her question as well.

I'm actually a little suspicious of HackerHuck. He's said jack shit

about his own thoughts.

FOS: Ryan

Oh noes...trouble in paradise...

I think the concern is, is that you stated you had work but would post and hadn't.

Go here.

With all seriousness, I don't work in front of a computer. I work in front of the carcasses of dead animals and slice them up onto people's plates (on good days I work in front of a cash register). It's demoralizing and I was not about to spend my free time to read over an entire game. It's a process that takes hours, something I have precious few of at the moment. I do apologize for my slow posting, but it's not something I can do much about.

Oh come on, SweenyTodd. OvertheUnder hasn't posted in a month. I just haven't posted in like a week or something. I've got like 23 more days before I become like him.

This was a joke. My post contains multiple allusions to a ryan-jordan scumpair. Those are jokes as well. In fact, you should probably assume everything I've said up until now was just for the hell of it. EXCEPT FOR THE FOLLOWING! STD'S PATENTED LIST OF SCUM!

Scum:

Primoris
Teffc/FraggleScum
Jordan

Townie:

Ryan
Lowell
Albert Rampage
Sweenytodd
Aimee
TrustGossip
STD

Unsure:

HackerHuck (wishy-washy, lacking opinions, typical semi-experienced scum)
deerz (impossible to tell)


Trust me on this.

Vote: Jordan

FOS: Primoris, FraggleScum, Hackerhuck

Discuss.

[Save The Dragons]

FUCK.

Sorry about the format.

[HackerHuck]

HackerHuck seemed to drop some town like tendencies early and I thought was beneficial to the game but than kind of fell off and has been quiet (still posting in other forums on the board I saw, so I know he's around)

Wow, are you thinking of a different game? You've been targeting me (behind lowell) since day one. Care to explain the sudden turnaround?

I got an uneasy feeling about this part of Sweeneytodd's post...

Ryan: Just to make sure I read your post correctly, your top suspects atm are Lowell and Aimee?

Now it looks like I've got to see what STD said.

Mod:

I appreciate the deadline, since it's certainly got this game back on track. My only concern with the deadline rules is based on the fact that we're still looking for two replacements. That means we need to get seven of nine players voting for the same person to achieve a lynch (7 of 10 if we vote for an inactive).

[HackerHuck]

I've been thinking about this a bit more. I don't think we should vote for a no-lynch, but it's not a bad play for today if we don't have a solid suspect.

Assuming the traditional three man mafia group, it's

very

unlikely that we'll be able to lynch without their assistance. That means we better have a decent case on someone (so the scum would want to vote and appear to distance), rather than just lynch someone because we just don't want a no-lynch.

Anyway, unless our replacement situation changes, we should just play it like a normal day and not worry about it too much if we get to deadline without a consensus. We'll at least have better information than if everyone ends up lynching a townie tonight.

@STD - I guess you're right that I've been pretty focused on Ryan. I should be able to put together a list.

[Aimee]

One thing I have thought just now is that perhaps Ryan is a townie, who got accused first, and Jordan is scum. Jordan is trying to link to Ryan so that if Ryan gets lynched, he looks more like a townie. I think their whole defence is totally bizarre, as is the case against Lowell. However, I see Jordan as scummier than Ryan at the moment.

[ryan]

STD: Very nice analysis. I do notice not much brought up about ABR and his "lyrics" any thoughts on that? I think the Jordan argument is a compelling one and I hadn't really noticed him trying to tag along to keep himself out of the limelight and knowing that I am a townie I should have been more aware of somebody coming along for the ride BUT with Jordan it looked like he was making compelling arguments. HH all of a sudden ready to present his case is interesting as he's been on me the entire game with not much of anything and yet nobody but you seemed to pick up on that.

The deadline looming with our replacements not in sight does make me a little nervous, we are still 6 days away with time to spare, and I still feel confident we can get some newbies in here and give them time to catch up so to speak.

[ryan]

Assuming the traditional three man mafia group, it's

very

unlikely that we'll be able to lynch without their assistance.

But isn't it possible too HH that the inactives are mafia? You seem to be assuming that the mafia is being active in the game currently, OR maybe you

know

they are being active?

[Lowell]

One thing I have thought just now is that perhaps Ryan is a townie, who got accused first, and Jordan is scum. Jordan is trying to link to Ryan so that if Ryan gets lynched, he looks more like a townie. I think their whole defence is totally bizarre, as is the case against Lowell. However, I see Jordan as scummier than Ryan at the moment.

This is EXACTLY what I was thinking as I read it.

unvote, vote Jordan

Remember, we need to get to 7, so let's get moving.