NY 178: MASQUERADE -- GAME OVER

[Egg]

Tier, yeah, that stuff and your early interactions with TSO and Toby. (See my post 486). And did you ever answer 1630?

[Slandaar]

You said multiball blah blah. He thought you used the term multiball to mean 2 scumteams. His argument obviously was not talking about games with SK. How would you as scum know there is an SK? it's impossible. He clearly was not making that argument.

It was absolutely required that multiball in the entire discussion means 2 scumteams.

YOU did not tell him you meant SK+scum instead asking him to provide meta

Only then did you bring up the SK+scum meaning multiball when his meta showed that actually 2 scum teams is not that likely I think it was 2/7 doesn't matter though the number.

You are misrepresenting his argument by saying SK games should be applied because clearly that was not his argument.

It doesn't matter if he misinterpreted your meaning. The difference is I find it very hard to believe you thought he was talking about games with SK the entire time thus you didn't misinterpret you misrepresented.

[Slandaar]

Also I liked that film but don't feel like watching it right now

[Slandaar]

And in case you are wondering yes I think you would do that as town because you cannot concede an argument ever.

[Slandaar]

Slandaar, not the point. Pere has been saying all along that he thinks there is one team and a SK unless I'm remembering wrong. Why did you feel the need to answer for him?

Well that isn't what he has been saying.

I answered for him because he clearly was having problems defending himself so I am now his guardian angel. What of it?

[Egg]

Lol k

[davesaz]

I don't think you can call it misrepresenting when person B is correcting person A's interpretation of B's own statement. B said something, A used an incorrect meaning of B's words, B corrected A. Not a misrep.

@GM, I don't really care about the words you hilighted. I care about the words I hilighted, and those words say you're scum. It's a lie that you never have an agenda other than figuring things out.

[Slandaar]

You can say that too. I say: I might have skimmed over certain things in GM's posts.

You skimmed over the part where she explained her main scumread?

That seems quite an important part of her posting to skip.

[Slandaar]

I don't think you can call it misrepresenting when person B is correcting person A's interpretation of B's own statement. B said something, A used an incorrect meaning of B's words, B corrected A. Not a misrep.

It didn't happen like this.

He didn't correct him he said 'WELL INCLUDE THESE SK GAMES TOO SEE YOU'RE WRONG!!!'

[TierShift]

Tier, yeah, that stuff and your early interactions with TSO and Toby. (See my post 486). And did you ever answer 1630?

I'm not sure. I have a decently strong townread on TSO.
Scripten's 1105 was devoid of opinions; only fencesitting. That's why I called it empty.

You called my early interactions faked or something but eh...don't see that.

I'll effort tomorrow because I have nothing to do tomorrow. In-depth reads on egg and dave coming prolly.

[Egg]

In depth read on me because I called you scum? Lol

[TierShift]

No, why do you assume it's because of that?

[Slandaar]

Adjusted that for how it was used in the discussion.
Adding in the other SK ones changes it to a 6/13 ratio.
Meaning, roughly, 50%

This is not a correction, this is Thor saying PV is wrong it's 50% when clearly in the discussion PV was not meaning SK+scum games. At this point Thor should have realized (he should have before but this is the absolute latest) that PV meant only games with 2 scumteams.

This means when Thor says 'adjusted for how it was used in the discussion' he is misrepresenting PV because clearly that was not how PV was using the term multiball in the discussion.

It does not matter what Thor's original meaning was.

[Slandaar]

Everyone else is hinging on various levels of null for me.

Am I?

Yup.

I got the impression you had a variation of town read on me earlier. It doesn't feel right.

[Slandaar]

Alright just going to respond to this one line might do rest of post tomorrow

Still, it was misleading in my opinion.

What is your point?

Do you think I was actually suggesting you said those words?

[davesaz]

Adjusted that for how it was used in the discussion.
Adding in the other SK ones changes it to a 6/13 ratio.
Meaning, roughly, 50%

This is not a correction, this is Thor saying PV is wrong it's 50% when clearly in the discussion PV was not meaning SK+scum games. At this point Thor should have realized (he should have before but this is the absolute latest) that PV meant only games with 2 scumteams.

This means when Thor says 'adjusted for how it was used in the discussion' he is misrepresenting PV because clearly that was not how PV was using the term multiball in the discussion.

It does not matter what Thor's original meaning was.

I disagree. Thor's meaning is the only thing that does matter. Thor's case is that PV persists in scum reading him after learning that he misunderstood Thor's meaning. I'm also starting to think that PV's case is a SK slip.
VOTE: PeregrineV

[TierShift]

I'm also starting to think that PV's case is a SK slip.

Is this real life?

[Egg]

No, why do you assume it's because of that?

Timing.

[Thor665]

You said multiball blah blah. He thought you used the term multiball to mean 2 scumteams. His argument obviously was not talking about games with SK. How would you as scum know there is an SK? it's impossible. He clearly was not making that argument.

I agree that his argument makes no particular sense in any way?

YOU did not tell him you meant SK+scum instead asking him to provide meta

Yes, and then he acted like 'it happening about 33% of the time equates to Thor is wrong equates to Pere's tell is valid.'
Which it doesn't.
Even if we don't count SKs.

Only then did you bring up the SK+scum meaning multiball when his meta showed that actually 2 scum teams is not that likely I think it was 2/7 doesn't matter though the number.

Since my initial commentary was in response to someone using a tell that was based on the idea that 'this is valid unless there are scum that are not part of my scum team' then, actually, it wasn't the first time I brought it up though I will agree it was the first time I openly explained it. After the explanation Pere chose to debate *that* with me as opposed to reassessing the validity of his tell or explaining how it still worked even with my usage of the word.

You are misrepresenting his argument by saying SK games should be applied because clearly that was not his argument.

I am actually saying that I meant that SK should be included.
I actually never said whether his point was valid or not - I said his point didn't matter.

It doesn't matter if he misinterpreted your meaning. The difference is I find it very hard to believe you thought he was talking about games with SK the entire time thus you didn't misinterpret you misrepresented.

[Thor665]

Adjusted that for how it was used in the discussion.

Adding in the other SK ones changes it to a 6/13 ratio.
Meaning, roughly, 50%

This is not a correction, this is Thor saying PV is wrong it's 50% when clearly in the discussion PV was not meaning SK+scum games. At this point Thor should have realized (he should have before but this is the absolute latest) that PV meant only games with 2 scumteams.

This means when Thor says 'adjusted for how it was used in the discussion' he is misrepresenting PV because clearly that was not how PV was using the term multiball in the discussion.

It does not matter what Thor's original meaning was.

What do you think I meant by the bolded statement?

[TierShift]

No, why do you assume it's because of that?

Timing.

That's just a coincidence, I suppose. The real reason is because I'm expecting more from your slot than what I am currently seeing (or what I think I'm seeing, that's what the reread is for). Some people have called you town for strong analysis but I can't find that anywhere. We'll see tomorrow!

[Egg]

I fully admit I haven't done much. No need to reread just for that. Day 1 of a large, yeah, I got lost.

[TierShift]

do you agree your own two big walls are shit/insert other word here with the same meaning but sounding less harsh?

[Egg]

No. That's where I caught up and developed most of the reads I have. I do admit that it's nothing groundbreaking though.

[T S O]

i'll catch up even though i really don't feel like it. i think this shit will come tonight if i can get on a roll.

sorry.