The MafiaScum Minecraft Thread - AllTheMods 9!!! - NEW Vanilla?

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wow oso that is so pretty! i never saw one before XD

wait i wanna be whitelisted! I dunno if I'll play regularly but I want the option

Done. (Grimm as well per your last post with any usernames in them... if this is wrong... yell at me).

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Redstone is like a

fun puzzle

stick in the eye, Reck.

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Please whitelist me, minecraft name ArchReplicator.
I prefer modded but can't view the blog because blogspot is blocked where I am now. Back in the US next weekend...

I should have also said, so I'll try out the vanilla one till then.

I normally play SP. Any guidelines on separation, like 200 from spawn etc?
Is it survival or creative? Allow mode switches or not? Some of the screenshots look like flying.

Hey dave! Welcome to MS. Both servers are survival only. As far as separation, people like to keep spawntown (on Vanilla) looking nice, so I usually go out about 100 blocks or so because I'm not a great builder, but there's no firm rule on that, as long as there isn't like, a wooden box in the center of spawntown.

Basic rules for any community apply, really, just don't be a jerk (i.e. no griefing, stealing, building in other people's property, etc.)

For modded, same basic rules, but nothing really about spawn. We all go out on our own pretty much and visit each other from time to time

You've been added to the whitelist for Vanilla for now.

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AFAIK, a player actively loads a 3x3 chunk area around their position. Unless he, or someone else, is in the area for the entire growth cycle, he won't see any changes.

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AFAIK, a player actively loads a 3x3 chunk area around their position. Unless he, or someone else, is in the area for the entire growth cycle, he won't see any changes.

What? They only grow if you're around them? What the fuck?

yep. To keep the server from disintegrating, essentially, the game unloads areas if no one is in them. Otherwise you'd have areas loaded all the time, be unable to have an infinite world/map, and serious lag pretty much constantly.

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That's a native minecraft thing, applies to single player as well.

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LOL not in it, but within 24 blocks of it. ish.

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Ah ok. There you go. I didnt think it was that far out from position though.

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What you need to do is make sure that you are standing directly on top of the melon stalk. If you can't get up on there, just keep.jumping. Then watch them for 3 hours give or take an hour.

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(dont do that... )

I'll come check it out after work today. What are your coords?

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Space above where the melon grows can't be blocked (no idea why). Putting the pistons under the dirt where the melon will grow will harvest them and keep the stalks intact.

They need to be sticky pistons.

The other way you could this is a line of regular pistons facing the grow space.

xyz

Where x is the stalk, y is the melon, and z is the piston facing y. If you don't have slime balls, that's the way I'd think to do it. You'd need to increase the width by at least... 5 in the center. 2 spaces for each line of pistons, 2 spaces for each line of repeaters, and one space for the redstone down the middle. There's probably a more efficient design though - I'm a caveman at redstone.

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omg rhi i have been looking for a vid like that my entire mc life.

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Can I be whitelisted?

cinnanexus

Done.

By the way, Vanilla minecrafters...

I'm in need of a co-admin for Vanilla.

This person would receive OP rights for the purpose of adding people to the whitelist when/if necessary (I'm pretty good about seeing these quickly but if you're already around that's awesome too), helping out with bugs/glitches, refunding oopsies, etc. Preferably it should be someone who spends a lot of time on the Vanilla server and is easy for me and others to reach. Also someone responsible so there's no OP ABOOS.

If you're interested, send me a PM. <3

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Ooh I'm home now. Checking on how I do that.

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VANILLA SERVER UPDATE!

Updating to 1.8 Release.... NOW!

Yay!

Also,

Untrod Tripod

is our new co-admin. Say YAY! If I'm not around, bug him He has my contact info and everything.

To update your launcher, select the profile you're using for the snapshots, and click "Edit Profile".


Select "release 1.8" from the list under "Use version..."


Then click "Save profile"

When you're finished downloading the new stuff, click Play and you're all set!

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k dunno what's going on fuck you all

whats wrong

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wow UT... more patience than I have.

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My. Brain. Fucking. Hurts.

I just finished work on a pretty huge maze... I think it's something like ~4000 blocks? I ended up blocking myself in while finishing it and it took me 25 minutes to find my way out. Lol. I'm going to finish the roofing/cosmetics/victory room tomorrow...

@MODS: Any way we can get some sort of prizes put in chests at the end of the maze?

That's what we did on the old server and it was really great

yuuss

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wow holy shit oso that looks incredible! well done!

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Spoiler:

omg i love this so much

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Digiminer rocks!

def one of my favorite items ever

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Spoiler: Some screenies from the modded server

These are just mine, cuz I don't know what other people want to share.

This is how I started. Just enough walls to protect me at night, a hole in the ground for initial mining of resources, and a little farm.


The idea I had was to make a floating base above water. I wanted something with enough space to hold everything I wanted. This is the initial outline for the platform. It has a radius of 32.5 (counting the center block).





Then I added a power hub underneath, to hold my main power generation for machines (a Big Reactor):


Under that is the first observation deck, where I'm growing sugar cane.



Looking up from the next deck down.


I sectioned off the quadrants for different purposes. Top left is farms. Top right is tech and magic. Bottom left is displays (armor, hats, trophies, etc) and enchanting. And the bottom right will be storage and an airship dock.



As you can see in the last one, I started adding petals to the outer edge. They will go all the way around. The base will be called "The Lotus". I also finally capped off the water flow under the sugar cane. The next deck will be surrounded by a tree orchard, with many of the fruit trees from Pam's Harvestcraft.


Edit: Orchard deck complete.


And switched the old tree area over to a Pam's garden.


More to come, I hope!

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can i be whitelisted? jothchapman of course

I will be getting better internet on Tuesday and thus I may elect to begin playing this again.

I assume this is for Vanilla? Added.

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Does anyone object to a reorganization of the OP?

I'd like to remove the PE/Xbox info because neither of our servers are accessible from those platforms and I don't know why it's there. Also wanted to clean it up a bit. It's rather cluttered.

Does anyone object to me spoilering in the current whitelist/player usernames in the OP?

Otherwise, I will output a list to google docs weekly and distribute the link to the co-admins. I hate rebuilding these things/searching the thread for usernames, and if or when someone else takes over, I want to make it easy for them to pick it up without issue.

Thaaaaaaaaanks.

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It's rather cluttered.

It is. I want to make it stream-lined and easy to read.

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I think you should be fine using the wiki. In addition to the aforementioned randomness of user pages, I've used the wiki to create pages for MishMash Survivor games, and much Song Contest information is stored there. I don't think one page for MS's Minecraft community should hurt anything.

This now exists under Minecraft (probably something better to call it... but.. this will do).

Feel free to spiff it up with your mad wiki skillz if you have em - just don't edit the lists.

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On other news, I'm kinda bummed by the whole "Microsoft Buys Minecraft" thing

ME. TOO.

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Lol those are wisps from thaumcraft. The little guys with backpacks are pechs. Also thaumcraft. The wisps are hostile mobs. The oechs are only hostile if you mess with them, but they'll trade thaumstuff for expensive things like gold.

Pedit what fbn said

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Spoiler: You know what really ticks me off?

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I thought you were going to say "not having exactly the same amount of Ardite / Cobalt".

lol that doesn't bug me as much cuz look how much I have, plus I use cobalt for things like the hammer/lumberjack due to its speed.

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ooooooooooooooo

Rhi that bridge looks so prettyyyyy!!!!!!!

Also Oso I'm jealous XD

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Ok.

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Spoiler: I love mods

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RIP Fuckhead, 2014-2014.
:'(

There will be a memorial service held in his honor at 4pm this Sunday, in the meadow on the shore.

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.......yes

Hey be nice. Not everyone knows everything. I didn't know that until like... 6 months ago.

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MODDED SERVER

IT'S TIME

So who's in? Say, in a few hours?

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What do you mean "because strongholds"?

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's not a hard task, really.

It is when you don't have rogue dungeons, jetpacks, or safari nets.

But good on you Claus If yall can find a stronghold, I'll be happy to post the seed.

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Or perhaps, include slime balls as part of a prize for stuff.

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awwwwwwww i missed you! come back tomorrow night! i will be around! i will give you the grand tour! i will give you gifts!!

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I'm in class late tonight but I'm glad you got a good welcome I will definitely be around Sunday.

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Rhi - Dav is directly east of spawn, and I'm a little farther east. If you hit the volcano biome, go north and you'll find my place.

You should spawn with a book from Tinker's Construct. My advice would be to start with Tinkers For power, mekanism is the easiest and best to start with. easily upgradeable once you get some resources going, has the diginiminer and the ultimate processing items (can up to 5x ores!)

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About how long should it take? Hmm... well.. if you just go straight to mining, rather than prettifying shelter, maybe a few hours or so to get from nothing to basic processing and intro power.

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Look up aroma1997 in NEI as well and make the portal. dav, oso and I have one. iLooks like stone bricks with bright cyan molding. It leads to the mining dimension that is eternal day and mob-free

edit: it's also super flat but has caves and stuff!

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that's fine maru.. lol.. just travel a bit so you're not building right on top of my mining area Dont forget to waypoint where the portals are.

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It leads to the mining dimension that is eternal day and mob-free.

Rude. You don't even play with us and yet you come here to ridicule people...

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modded

SP 3.2 Update

Added two new mods, and fixed recipe conflicts and some ID issues in NEI.

Get the update and more information here

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modded

SP 3.2 Update

Added two new mods, and fixed recipe conflicts and some ID issues in NEI.

Get the update and more information here

I broke things. Fixing it now. Please stand by...

All better!

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Spoiler: I made a new friend!

Toad from Witchery!

Spoiler: Bonus Witchery area screenie XD

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mhm definitely always cobweb trees have spawners underneath BUT under the spawner is TREASURE

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cobble in smeltery = seared bricks

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but if you have no casting table... nevermind.

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You cant just sift dirt for enough pebbles?

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Modded Server:

Hi hi! Someone is pulling things out of an enderchest with the code white-white-white, which is generally reserved for community use. This isn't really a rule or anything so it's not like you would have known, but another enderchest and a sacred oak sapling have been lost into it because someone has it hooked up to some system that is removing the items. Please don't do that Change the code or put a diamond on it, and let me know who you are so I can recover the enderchest and sapling from you.

THANKS!

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lol

/popcorn

You'll need to find my place on your own. But I guarantee its not me pulling from www

I think you may recognize the above picture....

because it is yours

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irrespective of whether I keep playing or not, what's your plan for replacing chunkloaders?
Modded can't really function properly without them working, this is pretty serious

For now, MFR chunkloaders are being provided along with a power and essence frequency on a tesseract (777)

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Admin anchors sound like the way to go. Do either of you know what the vertical range is, if there is one?

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mk -

If you need to replace a chicken chunks chunkloader, admin anchors are located at spawn. If you haven't made one yet but later on need one, just make a chicken chunks chunk loader and trade it with an anchor from the chest.

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Are you building near honeyopolis or somewhere else entirely?

In new honeyopolis.

Hotel Gaunt

ooo this sounds like a haunted house lol.. make it creepy looking with rs torches, jackolanterns, and vines!

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2) Atomic Disassembler acts as a scoop!

That is pretty fuckin awesome lol....

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By the way, Rhi - I set up an MFR tree farm in Aroma, and it wasn't dropping any saplings when chopped by the Harvester. Have you been getting sapling drops from your rubber trees?

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Spoiler: Drunk Osota is funny

[21:09] <Osota> and why did you leve out some of the coolist biomes

[21:09] <ETL> like which ones
[21:09] <ETL> lol
[21:10] <ETL> you weren't around when we decided which biomes to keep in
[21:10] <ETL> you should pm me all the stuff you wanna see in the next pack

[21:10] <Osota> uh please hold dealing with drunk guy...one sec

[21:10] <ETL> lol
[21:11] <ETL> osota taaaaa

[21:11] <Osota> ok ready...

[21:11] <ETL> i'm going to netflix.

[21:11] <Osota> shhhh

[21:11] <ETL> lol

[21:12] <Osota> ConiferousForest=true

[21:12] <ETL> yeah.. what are you doing

[21:12] <Osota> Crag=true

[21:12] <ETL> noooo
[21:12] <ETL> no crag
[21:12] <ETL> omg
[21:12] <ETL> dont tell me this stuff now lol

[21:12] <Osota> copying from dconfig file

[21:12] <ETL> PM it to me on ms

[21:13] <Osota> shh you asked crag is awesome, the cobble is so colrful haha
[21:13] <Osota> SacredSprings=true
[21:14] <Osota> i meqan that biome is so pretty....and i am a guy it looks awesome...and i am telling youit looks pretty
[21:14] <Osota> haha

[21:15] <ETL> lol
[21:15] <ETL> you really are drunk

[21:16] <Osota> no it really think. it look pretty, ...seriously i have been married for over 7 years. i can use the word pretyy and still be ok with my sexual preferance...
[21:17] <Osota> haha sadly beer has not helpped my spelling

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Is Aroma the mining world?

Yep. Aroma's Mining Dimension. I haven't quite decided what to call it.

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I just found a stronghold on vanilla.

oooooooooooooo yall know what that means?

When is it? I can get on and get me some gear for it.

Totally up to the active players. Server's been somewhat dead lately.

Vanilla Ender Dragon run anyone?

Anyone who participates will receive a dragon egg. I'll be on to deliver them. I have the following times free:

Friday 10 pm EST

Saturday 3pm EST
Saturday 5 pm EST
Saturday 7 pm EST

Sunday 3pm EST
Sunday 5 pm EST
Sunday 7 pm EST

If you want to participate, post the time slots you are available and we'll make it a date

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Ill be on the road...

Next weekend then, instead of this weekend?

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I encourage suggestions and discussion about new mods. <3 I don't always get to see the new things, so I do rely heavily on the playerbase to let me know what they want to see.

Maestro is also very experienced when it comes to modded minecraft. For those of you who are new, he was the admin before me and taught me most of what I know about taking care of the server. He does have a somewhat "purist" perspective when it comes to how a mod balances the pack, but it's good to have input from a different POV. It's valuable to the discussion.

EE3 was a mod we all missed moving from 1.5 to 1.6 (or was it 1.4 to 1.5?) so I'm definitely interested in taking a look at a new iteration of it. Alchemical Reactions was an attempt to fill that void, but it wasn't the same. EE3 was well balanced and had a fair cost - the minium stone didn't last forever and you had to fight monsters in order to get the pieces to make another. In AR, all you needed was a bit of gold and dirt to get started IIRC, and from there you could make anything you wanted within your hole in the wall - no real cost whatsoever. Sometimes it takes testing out a new mod to see that it is indeed not worth it (though tbf - AE is awesome modded inventories can becomes just too large to handle).

As an admin, I'm against forcing a play-style, so I like to provide options. There will always be players who seek the easiest route, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Others prefer the challenge and refrain from certain things until later, and that's fine too. The thing that makes Minecraft great is the freedom given to literally do whatever you want. Modded enhances that by adding new toys. That's all So definitely, let's talk about new things and find out what might and might not work for us. ♥

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Wow really? There was something I knew about those that Oso didn't XD that's a first. I love EIO conduits. If it wasnt for M's 1.7 test pack I probably never would have learned how to use/make them. Same for the SAG mill/Alloy furnace.

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Spoiler: Added a dome to my base

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lol...

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Nice dome, ETL. But I was getting used to warping to your place and then jetting off the side to explore new lands.

lol yeah i was thinking about that - no more jumping off the end BUT... i was planning to have the back end of the storage quadrant for an airship dock, and i think what i'm gonna do is open up a little hole and make like an "airlock" type tunnel that would give access to the outside from within the dome.

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blockception

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Hey Oso? Remember how we were JUST bemoaning the lack of conduit support for Mekanism Gases...?

https://twitter.com/CrazyPantsMC/status ... 0686063616

Can we go 1.7.10 now or is it too much to constantly nag you about, ETL?

i love that you're nagging me about it.

means you're willing to make suggestions and show me what we have available for 1.7

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septupled the machines for 5x processing. time for a test run

--

Moving to 1.7 most definitely means a restart. I just wont deal with the issues that would come from trying to convert. Plus, it's a chance for us to review what's included and take out/add in things.

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I would love to take a look at and mess around with that 1.7.10 mod pack. (hint hint, nudge nudge haha)

lol osota.. he posted it on the last page in big letters for you

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I was waiting for 1.8 forge before even looking at 1.7 mods. I won't be thinking about 1.8 for a very, very long time.

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Yah i'll be home in 10 minutes

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Fuzzy i suck can you whitelist osota's buddy? I'm in bed on phone >.< was so tired after i got home

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M that's Davesaz' kid lol...

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tbh: I didn't know he was your son, but now it makes sense.

why he's so incredibley adorable?

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dead vanilla server is dead

yah..

but it's there if people want to play it. i'm hoping activity will pick up over the holiday. if it's still dead by the end of january, i'll likely shut it down and put up the world to download. it's not expensive, so i don't mind.

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Speaking of which:

THE 1.7.10 PACK FROM 2 MONTHS AGO

There's the link, Osota. The purple text that lists the most recent update is a hyperlink that you can follow to the pack download. I

think

it's got our configs included...? I'm not sure how much I tweaked; I don't think I changed tons from default but I honestly don't remember. That Google doc and that download are both 2 months old at this point. I might morph them into a 1.7.10 port for ETL's ScumCraft to see what she'd lose and what she'd gain from going 1.7.10.

Also, dav, it wouldn't

necessarily

involve a new world, but as always it'd be

most

more stable to restart the world. And Ender Chests are an easy way to bump things over to 1.7.10.

amazing what they can do with technology these days...

the red things that say "not updated", are those included in the download still or no?

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LOL klaz...

Ender trick not happening anyway lol.. everyone gets a fresh start together for 1.7.

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Are we planning on switching to 1.7 for the modded server? When would we be switching?

It wont be for a month or two at least. I've barely just started looking at 1.7 mods, let alone have a list even.

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When we do could I get a backup of the 1.6.4 world? I've done a lot of building in there that I am proud of and I would love to be able to run through it in a solo instance.

absolutely i do try to get a link up on the blog to download the previous world when we reset.

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I do! post anything that really interests you or PM it to me or send me a link when you see me in IRC

I should probably just make a google doc for suggestions anyway. I'll do that.

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Lol I don't have an issue with it, I'd just rather not do it and have an item corrupt a world that we haven't even begun to play in yet.
Finding a good spawn is hard man.

i dunno why you thought we would do this anyway.. it's not like the world is corrupt and we have to save things. it's a totally new version of MC. we always clean reset for that.

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lol dav... a whole page or so for nothing

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I know we are using Warp book, but I just love the idea of this Mod.
http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/ma ... -portals-3

Oh yeah me too. Klaz mentioned this as well. It looks really neat. On old servers, we often had a "central hub" to reach other people's bases. (Would definitely remove the need to provide pages to new players ) So even if we had warp book as a thing you could make if you wanted to (rather than given on joining), or if you lost your book, you could still visit people to remake your pages.

We're getting Mystcraft back too and that has portals as well, but I like how pretty and customizable these are.

(And apparently you can transfer items, liquids and energy through these! )

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It's fine. They're here and involved now ya know, it's not like they are gonna go find it among the 600+ pages

And I'm probably not as involved as I should be. I'll put up some info this weekend if I have time. I've just been slammed with OT for a while.

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lol..

I dont mind the rehash at all. They are conversations that need to happen and will always need to happen with every new group of players. Just like yall did with me

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Hahaha

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no one is getting rid of ocean biomes. i love them too

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There should always be a good balance. There's currently an ocean between my place and Osota's old place that was pretty expansive. The entire trip took about 2/3 of the potentia stored in my harness. I'd say that's about the limit of what I'd want to see for oceans. But a decent sized ocean should also be relatively easy to find. Like within 1000 blocks of spawn there should be one, and that'd be about appropriate I think.

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Modded server crashed

Somebody placed a chunkloader from chicken chunks somewhere that is now ticking and crashing the server. I need to know who did it and where it is so we can get rid of it and get the server back up. Just PM me and let me know. Or dav. Otherwise I'm going to have to backup to this morning or yesterday. No idea when or where the loader may have been placed, but it needs to be removed.

Edit: I just disabled chickenchunks. You'll need to do this in your own pack. When you open up MultiMC, right click on the instance and choose "Edit Mods". In the list, look for CB - ChickenChunks (NOT core) and uncheck the box next to it. Save and then load up the pack.

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Hmm, lost the connection and can't get back in. But the server is replying to !players requests, so it appears it isn't completely dead. And it still lists me as logged in.
Given it's almost 1am, maybe this is a good time to stop for the night anyway.

Not sure what happened there - I didn't see anything in the console. I just gave it a restart.

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AW-SO!

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this is so awesome!!!

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nooo it was really great oso!! i'm impressed. i also think it's hilarious that you say "awh-so" XD i say "oh-so"

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Spoiler: LOL

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Modded server down temporarily

We're having some kind of permissions glitch that the host needs to look at. A ticket was sent in and we're just waiting to hear back. So don't freak out if you try to connect and it says it's not available.

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Still nothing from QN just yet. Will update when I hear from them.

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Well. I just went into it and tried to start the server, and it let me. I also just checked the server properties file again and I'm able to access it now, but no word from QN about anything they may have done, so I still want to know what's going on.

I don't know what starting it up actually did, because it didn't join IRC. If you're on now, I could use someone to test the connection since I'm at work and don't have access to an instance of the game.

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Has it always used BungeeCord 1.7.10_R0.1 .jar file?

Yes. You have my phone number - no need to clutter up the thread with this kind of minutia. Text me or PM me.

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Right right. Sorry.

Second note: I keep getting massive chunk loading issues in my SSP Dw20 1.7 instance. How can I fix it? It's literally unplayable.

Try reducing your permgen settings by 64 until it works better.

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permgen and min/max ram are different things. put permgen at like 128 to start. put min ram at 512 and max at 1.5 GB.

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Still nothing from QualityNode. If I don't hear from them by the end of the evening, I'm going to upload our worlds to another host and cancel the service with them. This is pretty unacceptable.

It's likely the backup that will go onto any new host's server will be the morning of the crash or the day before. I'm willing to replace anything major that was lost.

I forget who it was that mentioned the cloud host - maybe Maruchan or Maestro? - if one of you could send me the link for that again, that would be great.

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I got an email about that. But it's been over 2 days now, and nothing.

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Yep. I'm F5ing every few minutes...

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thanks maru! i sent them an email for information.

Update on servers

I've downloaded the worlds for both vanilla and modded, and am looking for a new host as I still have not heard anything from QualityNode. I seriously think something disastrous happened over there because I got a few emails about downsizing, and moving servers around, and other stuff, though none of that specifically should have affected ours. Regardless, the reason I chose them in the first place is because they offered chat support and near instant ticket response. That is no longer the case and it's time to move on. There are other hosts out there that are cheaper who will not make me wait 3 days to hear from them.

Unfortunately, embarrassed to say, because I just paid for the servers to QualityNode for the month of November, I can't buy another one until I get paid on Friday. I will be asking QN for a refund but my hopes are not high there.

Anyway, that's the story for now, and I'll let yall know more when I know more.

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mate of mine wants somewhere we can play on so if you see him yeah

Acros8869

love u ETL

will do, as soon as i get the new server/host settled tomorrow.

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We'll see They did respond to my email in a few hours, but overall seem normal. The only thing that goes above and beyond is the mixed RAM option of the cloud. I like that. I hate having multiple invoices for different servers and things all discombobulated.

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New server purchased at ExileServers - just waiting on activation. I'll be home tonight around 6 pm EST to upload everything and get us back online. Sorry again for all the delay. <3

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Cool, fingers crossed that it goes smoothly.

XD it sort of did. I had some trouble figuring out how to connect to the FTP to get things uploaded since this cloud server works a bit different, but I just figured it out and am uploading now.

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I have decent internet and could probably do it in 4 hours. Just send me the stuff.

sooooo just speedtested starbucks wifi.

To compare, mine at home is 1.27 Mbps download, .30 Mbps upload.

Starbucks is 56.21 Mbps download, 11.63 Mbps upload

LOL.........................................

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i uploaded the world in about 4 minutes dav. so i went ahead and uploaded pretty much everything i could just in case. lol... should be up momentarily here.

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GREAT NEWS GUYS! I DID SOMETHING RIGHT! VANILLA IS BACK!

162.223.8.203:25568

will update OP and stuff.

still working on modded. stupid quirky weirdo things

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lol i will fix that right now.

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Update on the modded server

I... don't know how I could possibly have done such a stupid thing, but after all that trouble, I somehow managed to delete everything. So... I'll be back at Starbucks tomorrow morning. I'm sorry. I'm the worst admin in the world.

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If by everything you mean

everything

, we could use that as incentive to update?

nah just on the server side. i have everything we need on my computer and backed up online. it's just that my internet blows

besides, jingle and sthar wanna build cthulhu or something lol... and if update to 1.7 now, we'll have NO server for like.. a long while. it's ok. I solved a lot of the initial issues tonight, and figured out half of my problems, and the guy is helping me through all of this through my support ticket. I should be able to get everything up and running *smoothly i hope* tomorrow morning. Starbucks opens at 5

No you're not. Shit's stressful.
Don't worry about it. <3

Hang in there, I for one am 100% behind you!

<3 thanks guys

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SUCCESS?!?!???!!!!!!

[11:47] <ETL> now then. to get theright world
[11:47] == SP3 [~fircSrv@162.223.8.203] has joined #mafiacraft
[11:47] <ETL> WAHOOOOOOOOOOOO LOOK ARCH
[11:47] <ETL> OSO-AFK
[11:47] <ETL> LOOKIE!
[11:47] <SP3> * aerialspring has joined the game
[11:47] <ETL> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[11:48] <SP3> <aerialspring> TEST
[11:48] <ETL> YES!
[11:48] <SP3> * aerialspring has left the game
[11:48] == SP3 [~fircSrv@162.223.8.203] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[11:49] == SP3 [~fircSrv@162.223.8.203] has joined #mafiacraft

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Everything is fixed! AND no progress was lost!

new IP addresses

Vanilla Server IP: 162.223.8.203:25568

Modded Server IP: 162.223.8.203:25566

Not sure if whitelist transferred over correctly - it should have - but if you are unable to log on, send me a PM.

<3

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If you use mapwriter to keep the large map of all your explored areas, a directory needs to be renamed to bring the data over.
Under the saves directory, look for mapwriter_mp_worlds directory. Inside is a directory with the old server ip and port. Rename this to the new server ip and port.

If you use JourneyMap (pressing J for the big map)

Go to /instances/SP3/minecraft/journeyMap/data/mp and rename the qualitynode folder to "162.223.8.203_0" without the quotes

If you use Zan's for waypoints

Go to /instances/SP3/minecraft/mods/VoxelMods/VoxelMap/ and rename the points file in there to "162.223.8.203~colon~25566" without the quotes

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ETL, another one wants in heheheh

Boon666

added to vanilla - i trust that you know these guys and they are not trolls/jerks/griefers, yes? <3

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Can I join maybe? IGN Banakai_

Hey there did you want vanilla or modded?

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Vanilla, I can't run most mods...

all set!

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ETL: Are you still taking suggestions for what biomes should be in the 1.7.10 pack?

yes I'll put a link to the suggestion doc on the blog so it can be easily found.

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It doesn't look like it. Are you using the old IP? Check the OP - we switched hosts.

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You saw nothing...

lol...


In other news, I made a lot of progress on my new bee area, despite losing all my bees.


(^ this is an old screenie but I already logged out - machines and apiarist chest, etc are all set up now )

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wow bulb that's intense!

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HAPPY SCUMDAY FUZZYNUT!

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ETL did you add that suggestion doc yet? I don't see it.

yes...

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I just played 1.8 for the first time yesterday, after it having been out for so long.

happy birthday jack!

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[21:35] <SP3> * Osota has joined the game
[21:35] <SP3> <Osota> Oso are you on IRC?
[21:38] <SP3> * Osota has left the game
[21:58] <ETL> HEY
[21:58] <ETL> dammit osota!

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deeeeeeathhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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Every one I've ever encountered has just eaten me, taken my shit, and gave zero fucks about it.

when i read this, i'd forgotten the previous posts and was wondering

who

you were talking about and why you were posting about it here....

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clean up with a block on it then break the block

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IC2 for SP4?

sans gregshit of course...

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MODDED SERVER - PACK UPDATE

I've posted some information about the update on the blog, just to keep you in the know on how this goes (especially for our newer players). I've started working on the new pack and the TL;DR version of the post is that we should be ready to launch SP4 in about a month. YAY! Lots of awesome new updates and new things to come. I'm very excited for this update.

Don't forget to add your suggestions to the pack spreadsheet so I can take a look at things you want to see. This is the best way for me to know what you want - telling me in IRC means I'll see what you said and then forget it immediately. My memory is terrible and I'm usually doing something, so unless I'm working on the pack at that moment, I wont remember. I love new suggestions because I don't always know what's out there or what you guys are looking for. It really helps me out! Here is a list of mods for 1.7.10 if you don't know where to start. I'm checking out what's on there as well. The list has over 650 mods, so definitely take a look and see if something catches your eye.

And just to say - I love all our players, and I'm really happy to do this kind of stuff. If I do something that you don't like, I want to know about it! My job is to make sure the server is something we are all happy to be a part of (as well as keep it running as bug-free as possible!), so keep that in mind and let me know what you think.

Thanks! ♥

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This list has a few more for those interested.

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Ahhh thanks! <3 I was looking for the other mods. I didn't see Lucky Blocks on the one I posted but I knew it existed.

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Biomes O' Plenty biome survey!

Please fill this out. It's only two questions and there's an imgur album with a picture and short description of every biome that comes with this mod.


Thanks!!

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SUCCESS!?!

First draft list loaded without too much trouble!

Can anyone find the cool new thing I've added?

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Carpenter's blocks plates do have settings you can change with the hammer - trigger on player only (like obby plates), on hostile only, or on animal only.

Will look for Roguelike again. Do you prefer that? Was thinking might be good to try something new.

Enhanced Portals 3 is not the mod I was thinking about. The one I had in mind is cheaper. I'll let you know.

k on open c and cc - just don't want unnecessary redundancies. The list will need to be trimmed somehow - over 100 mods is very hefty.

JourneyMap does everything that those different maps used to do together and more now. it is client side so you are free to change it out. I'm including journeymap unlimited as the pack map.

pedit nether ores is on the list - CoFH took that over (along with mfr) from powercrystals

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This was the one I was thinking about:

Spoiler: Colourful Portals

Not super cheap but about the same effort as getting ender pearls, and you can have multiple destinations in a single portal based on the order you created them in. And it comes with a portable portal you can grab and take with you. Another cool thing is you can create these ender pearls that create a portal to random destinations. I haven't done a ton of research on EP3 as for some reason I thought it was Colourful Portals. I'll compare the two.

I'm hesitant to include warp book again only because it's so easy to get - we never had it on other servers, but I'm not going to force it if it's really wanted (I do like easy things myself ) The other thing is that each pack should be something new and different, even if it includes some of the basic stuff we always use (like Tinker's).

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Oh and dynmap is a server thing only - you wont get it in the pack download. it allows people to "connect" to the server and see an interactive map and chat with players from the web.

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Re: Computer Craft and Open Computer

I don't use computers so I need information from those who do, because I'm not familiar enough with it to know what each mod offers. Which of these mods offers something the other doesn't while still providing the same utility? How well integrated are they in terms of working with the other mods we have (like Thermal Expansion, Big Reactors, etc.)? What are the pros and cons of including one over the other - a comparison of the two?

Are they meant to be installed together or do they provide the same functions in different forms? Meaning, do they augment each other or are they stand-alone versions of the same type of mod?

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LOOKIT PRETTY COLORS!

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Binnie's new AMAZING compartments!

The above is just the first tier (wooden). You can name the tabs, give them an icon, color code them. Very cool. Goes wooden, copper, bronze, iron, gold, diamond in tiers. Love it!

Also totally compatible with piping/conduits etc. of course.

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YAY M! ♥

1. Atum:
   This mod was in Alpha when we looked at recreating the 1.6 pack, and when I started looking at 1.7 mods. In my opinion, it did not offer much of anything that other mods didn't (like Tinker's, for the weapons), and the treasure found in the pyramids and such was mediocre by the time you'd be strong enough to even beat them. I'm probably not going to include it at this time.
2. OpenComputers/ComputerCraft:
   Sticking with CC as it is a trusted mod that plays nice with most of our others.
3. MineChem:
   Probably not. I've had some issues with it in the past breaking things from other mods. It's a very neat concept and probably ok with Vanilla and not much else. The focus of this pack is certainly more than just Vanilla so we're leaving this out.
4. Aesthetic Beacons:
   M -
   Is there any bad reason to include a mod that says 1.7.2 on it? The mod page for this didn't offer a 1.7.10 version so I wasn't sure. If it's fine, I'll add it. It looks beautiful.
5. Buildcraft:
   Re API issues: Forestry recently updated their API which RC, BC, and Binnie's mods rely on. With Forestry's latest version in the pack, BC is broken. If you did not have Forestry, that is probably why it worked fine, but also, High Seas was created before the update. I'll look further into it but we already have Mekanism, Thermal Expansion and EIO, not to mention Extra Utilities offering some tech options as well. I likely will not bother with this as it's too much head ache. (You know I love logistics pipes and would include BC just for that, but we don't need it.)
6. Mariculture:
   This mod brings a lot of *stuff* to the game, and much of it is covered by other mods. The only unique aspect is the fish breeding, which I would gladly include if it weren't for all the other junk that tags along - like excessive world gen. Re: jewelry from other mods - Azanor's Baubles mod has opened up a whole new section of the inventory that a lot of mods have taken advantage of - TE, Thaum, Artifacts, and Botania to name a few. I'm definitely planning on exploring that when the pack launches. Right now, no on mariculture. Too much headache to go in and disable almost everything just to breed fish (when we already have bees).
7. IronChests:
   After some testing with Binnie's compartments, I've decided to keep Iron Chests as another option. We're getting the compartments with Binnie's mods anyway. The reason is only because there are no "in-place" upgrading options for the compartments - you have to empty them and then use the box in the crafting recipe to upgrade. I'm definitely going to be using them, but Iron Chests is here to stay as well.
8. Metallurgy:
   In the current pack, iron and gold create an alloy called angmallen, which is not only mediocre as a tool material, but impossible to get out of the smeltery any other way. Disabling extraneous ores is one thing, but I couldn't disable them from the smeltery. It was a problem, and somehow messed up the liquid registry in NEI as well. I loved Metallurgy - beautiful shinies, tons of armor to display, useful early game machines, but such a cluttered ore table. It completely crowds out many other ores and there's no real way to balance it. There's just not enough room. Remember SP2? Ores for days and days and days. You couldn't mine in peace and there was
   almost
   not enough stone. Not worth it. It would be all or nothing for this mod. With the amount of other mods we have that require oregen, this one is out.

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Just as an FYI, it seems several people didn't know about the tabs at the bottom of the document:


There's more information about the pack on those tabs, such as a link to download the current test pack.

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I use warp pages for two main purposes, going between fixed known locations (which portals can replace easily) and to jump back home from random locations or to mark a temporary spot while exploring and jump back to it later (which doesn't work for portals at all). On SSP I can address this 2nd need by teleporting to waypoints. An intra-linked mystcraft link book might provide a reasonable alternative, though using a link book in hand drops it on the ground which makes it a less desirable solution.

You can make the book have a quality called "following" so it doesn't drop from your inventory when you use it. It does take some work but being able to teleport home from anywhere should be something to work towards.

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To be honest, I'm not familiar enough with the new way MystCraft does things. It's definitely on the list to test right now, so I'll get back to you on that.

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If CC is the one that sticks (which seems to be the case), then we probably want a chunk loader peripheral. But I don't know if it's even updated, not on the mcf modlist. I also added a peripheral mod to the suggestion list.

Oh yeah that's right. We used to have some addons for CC. Klaz would know. I'll take a look.

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porgorsm

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EtL whitelist me >.>

Done!

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Ur da best. I died, why do I suck at this game.

Step 1. Break tree, get wood.
Step 2. Build castle.

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Hey all!

We're including Biomes O' Plenty again. Take a look at this imgur album to see a screenshot and short description of each biome type. I've started a list of "biomes to disable" on the modpack document. Please let me know in some form - forum PM, sitechat, IRC, email, blog comment, ESP, carrier pigeon, etc. - which biomes you DEFINITELY

DO NOT

WANT. Feel free to let me know one or two you absolutely must have as well, in case there's a conflict somewhere.

Thanks!

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Why the flower field?

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Oh yeah the red chicken.

And I love the cherry blossom biome. Plus you can run the pink generator off the leaves.

Word of advice to everyone: if fuzzy tells you to warp to ETL's base, IT'S A TRAP!!!

This is a friendly PSA from jmj.

lol.... yeah my base got lagged out but if anyone needs something from my storage, it is accessible in the Aroma dim - I have a Q Bridge out there that connects the ME system there to the one at my base.

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A test pack is now available!

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[03:05] <aphix_386> Making a dirt tunnel through a laval pool! like a boss.
[03:07] <aphix_386> aphix_386 burned to death

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Magic legos

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Do we have a vanilla server anymore?
And/or does anyone play there?

We do have a Vanilla server and people do play on it. The Vanilla server isn't as active as it used to be but there still seems to be a steady stream of players every other day or so. Modded server is by far more active but I think it may be due to the fact that we are connected to IRC.

Are users segregated by platform?

Like other said, Mac/Linux/PC players can all play together, doesn't matter. Gaming consoles like PS3/4, Xbox 360/One are segregated.

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New test pack available. Contains modified configs and updated mods list.

(Link to the doc)

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Is the doc updated with those mod/config changes?
I'm in Cleveland on hotel internet so I'd rather look than download.

Yep!

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A test server is available!

Download the pack linked above.

REMOVE EiraIRC!

Test server IP 162.223.8.203:25569
(Everyone should be in creative when they join - spawn stuff in and do your best to break things!)

Now with 100% more Dynmap!

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I also need to find a good seed. What is a good time next weekend that everyone can be on the test server with me?

Edit: If you've been messing around with the pack in SSP and happen across a seed with a nice spawn area (mostly flat and clear but with trees and water in sight), you can type /seed in the game chat to display the seed. Post a screenshot of it here with the seed number so we can pick one.

♥

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I am assuming it is a Biomes O Plenty seed we need right?

anything you find online won't apply as our pack is unique and that will affect the world gen

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so having a seed from your Dino pack wouldn't work

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we often like to build a little welcome area for new players. so something with a bit of open space and a easy to navigate way out of the area (i.e. not surrounded by mountain or volcano biome or taint etc). I also have plans for a portal hub at spawn so if there enough space to accommodate that would be fine.

usually we pick something that is like meadow or plains biome where an ocean is nearby and trees are not too far away.

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I am assuming it is a Biomes O Plenty seed we need right?

anything you find online won't apply as our pack is unique and that will affect the world gen

oh I know that, but when you create a SSP in SP4 you want us to make it a Biomes of Plenty instance right? Else the seed will not have those biomes o plenty biomes.

Oh! Yeah. Klaz answered but yeah.

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'14's askin' for stuff
#gerroffmahlawn

stop yellin at my hydra

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XD

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Test server is back with the following changes:
- Sanguimancy removed.
- Pam's HarvestCraft added (see doc for link)

You do not need a new config file at this time.

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the way the mod works changes my biggest issue with it, which was full inventory of seeds when I just want wheat. they don't drop from grass anymore. you have to find them. and most of the other players like and want it so it's not a big deal since that change was made.

also the change log tab hasn't been updated in a while. I've been busy with school but I'm gonna do some work on it this weekend so it should be updated by then.

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Thanks dav!

ScumPack 4.0 is ready!

The blog has been updated with the new information for the SP4 server. There is a download link there as well. I'll be uploading a copy of the SP3 world for anyone who wants it.

The OP has also been updated - please note that the modded server IP is different! Come to the IRC to join us!

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nexus is so nice!! thanks nexus

I will bring you gifts.

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no you were already white listed

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it will be back in a few hours. thanks for posting the notice arch. I'll be done in a little bit.

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Alright.

If you have questions or information about a server issue - please send it via PM on here, in IRC, or text message.

I'd rather not have everyone posting theories with only half the information. The admins will take care of it and keep you all updated.

Thanks. ♥

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I just mean send the above kind of stuff to pm or irc so the thread isn't clogged up with it and so people don't come in with responses when I will respond with all the information.

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it looks AMAZING!!!!!

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Modded Server Pack Update 4.1

The pack has been updated and a full changelog can be found on the blog. You will need to download the update and apply it before you can log back on to the server. This update fixes a severe crash issue with Thaumic Tinkerer and MystCraft, and also addresses other minor issues. Redstone Arsenal has also been added.

Come to IRC if you have any questions or need help.

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So, what was the issue with colourful portals?

Just bad code mostly, the way they kept the areas loaded caused a LOT of lag and maxed out the CPU. As soon as we took them down, there was a huge improvement.


I AM THE PINK FAIRY ANGEL OF DOOM!

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Gaia is one crazy B.

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Slight problem if we give the descriptive book a name when creating it, we don't get an age number like it would have if no name is given.

Easy, Create the Age, note the Number, then rename the book. Course, that doesn't help with any you have already created.

There's a link modifier in the hub. When you put a book in it, you'll be able to see the number again. If I rename a book, I usually put the Age Number in parentheses.

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Im fine with my nitor

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fixed!

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Reminding everyone that age deletion is happening today - I haven't heard from anyone so I am assuming that anything not listed on the doc as claimed is safe to delete.

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Spoiler: SeriousYes has an enderman problem

They like to redecorate.

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Interresting O.o, I have never really played on any servers with mods..

I'll probably join sometime later today

heya heya! Come to the IRC and introduce yourself. Plus we can help you get set up with the pack more easily there. (There's a link in the OP for it, but its on esper.net, channel #mafiacraft.)

Also, you'll need to be whitelisted.

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*Oven timer dings*

What pigs?

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Also, the servers are temporarily down as there's some issue with our control panel. A ticket is open and we're in touch with tech support. More news when I have it.

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MODDED SERVER

1. Server should be back up sometime tonight.

2. I will be away all weekend for my anniversary, beginning early Friday afternoon. I will not have my laptop. Please only text for absolute emergencies that Dav or Klaz can't handle.

3. Today is Oso's 50th birthday, so he should get a party and some goodies. Dav or Klaz, you are authorized to spawn him something he would like, within reason. Definitely fill his place with cake though XD

4. Myst Ages up to age 28 that were not claimed are now gone.

That's all!

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^not etl

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lol oso

ITS BACK YALL

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TASTY

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awww that's too adorable for the oven!!!!








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