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i have full intent o hammer. if this entire fuckign day is going to be over bludge i rather just lynch him and remove it so we dont have day 2 going "oh buldges i here, oh buldge is here" shit

The catch is The Collective will be intact and is a tastier target than Bulge who has some people defending him to the bone.

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why are you calling attention to that wagon again?
did you ever say why you want him lynched?
Can we lynch you?

What's your answer to the third question? I'm thinking yes after a thorough glance at Flubber's last post and vote. Unusually sketchy!

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Totally serious note that I must get out due to the serious nature of this particular game.

Gaiden I trust your reads fully. I have developed a newfound respect for your calm-as-a-possum demeanor and mafia wit. It is startling how much you influence mafia games.

I am 100% serious.

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Because he's a scum lynch at best and

a PL at worst.

That's moot.

His play does not deserve PL stature as a sole name, when there are much worse offenders (look at me! look at me!)

Seems like you're making up a story to explain your vote.

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(I also like how SXTLHGaiden seems to be putting forth some minimal effort into the game with my vote there.)

Gaiden's style is based on being a man of few words, and thus the illusion of "minimal effort." It's his mojo.

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Bulge is a mislynch, and scum don't need to fight it.

Prior to us subbing in and Bins speaking up, it looked like it was guaranteed to go through because town was pushing for it, and scum were comfortable with just blending in as town-Team 9 pushed it through. Thus, they had no need to help generate any counterwagon. The quote isn't saying that the Bulge wagon is scum-driven. It's not about the lynchers being scum, it's about the player who scum comfortably saw as a guaranteed lynchee being town.

so informed sounding and definitive.

youre scaring me. i am shuddering.

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EBWOP: I am worried though, you carried us in Quickness. That is no small feat, like the much-improved Metal Sonic.

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This goes in general and isn't really gonna be received well, but I don't feel as comfortable as some of you do about the replace-outs being

all

town. Not being dismissive of the reads but still. That earns them a day or two, but no more IMO. Seen weirder things happen.

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I'm weirded out by how there's no real counterwagon.

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Which ones did you shut down?

p-edit: Bins how well do you read Bulge? how confident are you

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Yeah, I think it's best I tone down my postings. Getting back to basics here.

Is it a coincidence that tn5421 showed up just today, and that now a wagon is beginning to form? Or are my eyes deceiving me

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Doc claim could be easily a gambit, hypothetically, as there won't be counterclaims unless one is dead already.

I repeat, hypothetically.

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off the top of my small brain

town bulge gaiden

probably town: bins notscience ika varsoon

idk: pie, thesp, tn

scummy as scum can be: dave marquis

scum: flubber

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anyone want to think that buldges is town and bins is wking the shit out of him as scum?

they're irl lovers though so idk idk

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VOTE: Flubbernoggin

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Gaiden already provided thoughts in the context of his playstyle, while playing within himself.

VOTE: Thesp

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President.

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Sorry your leg hurts

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we could just let both "claimed cops" live and see which one actually dies tonight, instead of lynching one right away

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i dont know why varsoon as scum would want to trade himself for a cop lynch that might not even happen though, so there's that

he has spunk though so maybe this is a town or scum gambit.

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Better than the actual cop dying. Unbelievably enough, 3137 I didn't realize Thesp was already dead...otherwise I wouldn't have proposed letting both "claimed cops" live.

I wish I hadn't gotten caught up around page 90 about the page record. My bad. My immediate reaction to the Thesp wagon flip was that Team 9 might be scum. Now, it's that scum probably bussed.

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The deathscene and the beginning of today made me think of Bed of Roses...

Spoiler: :D

-Bulge is scum, even if Thesp flips scum. the way Thesp pushed Bulge reeks of a bus and I already explained why: he backed off because "lol Bulge can't be lynched" despite the fact Bulge totally could have been lynched.

VOTE: The Bulge

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Yes I was just thinking that.

UNVOTE:

Tomorrow please.

I dig the Thesp wagon.

VOTE: Thesp

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Shit. I wasn't expecting that. There goes my credibility :<

This kind of reaction deserves a sonic cannon too.

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VOTE: dave

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My internet went down and you beat me to it. Was going to quote those same posts.

VOTE: The Bulge

Let's not get carried away on a quick lynch though, healthy discussion might help with finding the 3rd scum.

Yep, grey is right.

"Finding the 3rd scum"

Only one scum is dead.

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Bins, explain your strong bulge town read based on meta

When it has been said he has no past games as scum?

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I think you might be scum, Bert.

But I'll wait for Varsoon.

Expressing a coy "you might be scum"

Then you back off and cede responsibility of that read rwith
"Waiting for Varsoon?"

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He also provided reads lists.

Also, Varsoon may or may not be the cop.

How are you sure it's not a gambit

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I mean this, seriously, and I'm not here to speak in riddles. I don't see scum still believing and pushing against someone who claims that they're doctor. Scum would know this claim to be true, and would rest pushing it.

Not true. Just because they claim it doesn't ran scum automatically rest pushing it

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No clears because Team 9 died.

Let's all scream and shout

Let's let it all out

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I feel really dumb, though.
Because if he didn't die (was scum) then his target would have been me because he claimed he was protecting me so that the docs wouldn't cross protect.
I was just expecting some sort of bizarre kill on the side, like dave or bert or NS, and I wanted some hard validity on Team9's shit, at least to know if it was a gambit or not.
I'm still not convinced they were doctor, but the flip confirms.

Awwz. I was hoping you were throwing confetti as some kind of clever trap.

I am bitterly disappointed, Typhoon Baboon Pontoon Varsoon!

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Spoiler: Varsoon isn't what we thought he is. He's actually a...

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varsoon is probably town, he brought a lot of needless attention to himself too, a town monsoon varsoon baboon

The basic summary of events is that either Varsoon is cop and Dave is scum; or Dave is town and Varsoon is scum.

This does leave out a few explanations, such as:

1) Varsoon is trolling Mina and everyone that agrees with her (fakeclaiming cop/guilty as town)
2) They could both be scum together
3) There is a possibility they are both town and Varsoon is the cop.

since day opened this is your post. you giving me the "whichever way the wind is blowin, ill follow suit" vibe by not latching onto a suspect, what's up with that

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mina is a player who is not in this game!

also i am facing a quagmire cos i wanna sheep pie's reads too on Bulge, but then Grey is on point too if town

this game

ITS A TRAP

ITS A PLANT

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i just

it's not like i have a problem w/ it but like bert there's a huge shift in your play right now

cos ive been super busy the past month or two and i have a lot of free time this month!

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Sakura replaced out.
Titus replaced out.
Nobody REALLY wants to lynch bulge.

How about a fuck you.

Those replace outs are just that. Game continues. The person who said on D1 that "not enough people want to lynch Bulge, so the wagon won't go through" was scum.

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Your vote's already on the lead wagon though.

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Varsoon, how should we commemorate you at your funeral tomorrow? Do you have a speech in hand for us to read

I'll weep.

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ok hopefully it is as tear-jerking for the others as it is to me

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can I ask you two to vote dave

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please

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A 5 page Day 2 would be great justice.

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I am present and I will be active/around for the near future. Awaiting Varsoon's claimed result

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Why do I feel like Varsoon bussed Thesp

Why do you?

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TN, when it's time for you to die, townies will have all the reasons they ever need to vote for you (not that they need much convincing, your wagon has never been short of people). Today is Dave's day. Don't take away his spot in the limelight.

By the by, I find it interesting that you place a higher priority on defending yourself from a person

who is not even voting for you or attempting to lynch you today

than you do on finding scum to vote for. We just got a day 1 scum lynch in. Any townie would know that a day 2 scum lynch means this game is nigh-impossible for scum to win. And here you are... vote on no one... defending yourself...

Que que?

So basically you still literally have no proof of any kind.

VOTE: davesaz

Someone hammer this shit.

What did you think of Grey's "case/proof" about dave, because you followed it and hammered Dave

VOTE: tn5421

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why the fuck did no one die

why the fuck is no one commenting on this

either scum no-killed or their kill was blocked by a doc

the fact that most people here don't know

why

would explain why those that have checked in have been tight lipped about it

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varsoon has a history that is full of gambitting and maybe they dont believe him

or maybe he's not the cop, but in this case the real cop would just counterclaim today

what do you think it is, Bins? you are speaking like you are wayyy consciously bothered by the NK

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another theory: varsoon is impersonating a cop as town to hide the real cop, and the real cop sees town motivation to keep varsoon alive and not out just yet

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unless scum no-killed, the doc probably protected varsoon imo

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I now think Varsoon isn't the actual cop...but is town and is protecting the real cop.

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I had doubts because you had no need to counterclaim Thesp on D1 when you were the hammer vote anyways. I haven't been sure at any point, and still am not 100%. But last night sure looks like you're not cop lol

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it could still be a Varsoon scum gambit btw.

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Scum targeted someone other than me who was doc'd. (my guess)

OK, so let's say they saw through your "gambit."

GreyIce was the one leading yesterday and strong-arming lynches, so if town, that would make sense for scum (AND Doctor - another story) to target if just focused on taking out players. Without GreyIce (regardless of alignment), more swing is created in our voting patterns.

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Re: care.

Your self-vote suggests otherwise.

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Speaking of which, Bins why did you join the tn wagon?

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dibs on hammer

tn is at lynch -1.