It's like some guy shooting himself in the foot multiple times then trying to endlessly hop on that one bloody, disfigured foot.
Varsoon, you're not stupid. Stop pretending to be.
Have everyone at the start of Day 2 and maybe even Day 3 state their strongest town or scum read.
Cop will need to crumb their Night 1 result, so letting them hide their result within that will help. And if the Cop still dies prematurely, we have something to go off of.
I'm glad I have been following the thread - I was halfway through working on a program to give us odds on doing follow-the-cop. No need to do that now.
ika, I disagree on voting for who the cop checks. I think it makes it too easy for the scum to hunt the cop. I think it's better (at this point) to play it straight.
I've been saddened by the replace-outs and hurt feelings here, and feel sort of weird about it all right now.
notscience
, I had actually drafted a post yesterday I intended to post in the Mafia Discussion forums after this game was over, but it seems appropriate to post now. (It's behind the spoiler because it's longish and I'm not sure how game-relevant it is, but maybe it will be helpful to you.)
Spoiler: It's Okay to Be Wrong
In post 2335, 22 wrote:Start up there is actively doing nothing, but nobody is calling him out for it.
Not saying I have a read on it as of yet, but it's weird as hell that nobody else seems to either.
I agree on this. (I also think similarly on SXTLHGaiden.)
I'm getting kind of irritated that this game is going on so blasted long. I don't know if it's even fair to express that, though, seeing that some people are enjoying the billion-pages-a-day-with-lots-and-lots-of-fluff-posting pace, so I don't know what to say. I suppose I'll just state that my preference is to get a lynch soon, and I think that the continued pace of this game is bad for scumhunting.
In post 2459, 22 wrote:Stop fucking spamming. It took me long enough to catch up since yesterday.
Agreed.
In post 2470, Varsoon wrote:I'm so low on that list, it's painful.
I guess I was always the sort of loser who gets suspected.
I think voting for the cop check is the best. It clears up who we all think is most likely to be scum.
The primary issue I have with it, though, is that:
This outs the cop on D2.
There's no strat to protect the cop N1 outside of blind guessing.
In post 2471, Varsoon wrote:So, basically, we need a cop claim now. The issue is that, if Team 9 isn't lying, then Team 9's dead in the water tonight and we're down to a macho cop and a macho doc.
:l
NONONONONONONO
The cop protection is obscurity. Outing him is
terribad
.
FOS: Varsoon.
I'm not interested in a 22 lynch today, and I also think any ambition to break a record for D1 posting pages is anti-town. I'm tempted to vote the spammers just to make it stop.
I'm not done with posting, but I just want to get this down before another frickin' post is made.
"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning." -
In post 2474, Team 9 wrote:No the cop doesn't claim.
I'm a designated kill tonight and outing cop now will just give scum a free cop kill N2.
So you soak tonight's kill (probably)
Cop doesn't claim ever,
How do we know who the cop Innos are?
againwe are voting on who it is going to be. ill tally it up in the end and if they get guity they should claim half way thorugh next day to catch them off guard. if they got inno they remain quiet.
You know, in 512, my goal was to spam the thread and get people as off topic and confused as possible with hopes I'd get a whole slew of apathetic replacements who'd never find my scum team after my eventual lynch.
P-EDIT: I only suggest outting the cop if we had docs to protect him, but it seems like that won't be the case?
Right now, I think the strategy is for us to NOT vote for who the cop investigates, and then every day start we all act like cops and claim our innos/guilties. That way, if the cop ever does die and flip, then we'll have a ref to look at.
The Bulge isn't going to be lynched today. Looking at the people not on the wagon, enough have expressed disinterest in the wagon (or active opposition) that it can't make.
UNVOTE: The Bulge VOTE: SXTLHGaiden
I want real pressure on the people who are deliberately not providing content. I would happily move my vote to startfromtheheart (
especially
if it puts an end to the posting diarrhoea).
"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning." -
We will deal with what the cop should do tomorrow. Let me suffice it to say that I think they should remain as underground as possible. Time to put these votes to good use. (I'm going to try to do a temp votecount meanwhile.)
"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning." -
soooo, why isn't the bulge gonna get lynched? is that the only reason you moved your vote?
Would any lynch satisfy you?
You're not going to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. S*Gaiden will not make long cases, write stunning insights, or sugar coat his words. He is not the man for multi-paragraph eloquence. He is, however, being honest to a fault, and it comes across in his writing.
In post 2541, SXTLHGaiden wrote:soooo, why isn't the bulge gonna get lynched? is that the only reason you moved your vote?
Would any lynch satisfy you?
See the reason I gave when making the vote switch:
In post 2538, Thesp wrote:The Bulge isn't going to be lynched today. Looking at the people not on the wagon, enough have expressed disinterest in the wagon (or active opposition) that it can't make.
I'm explicitly disinterested in a 22 lynch (as stated). There are various other players I would oppose wagons/lynches on.
What about you? Do you still like your vote on davesaz? Why or why not?
"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning." -
i still like for reasons i can't really put into words.
You're not going to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. S*Gaiden will not make long cases, write stunning insights, or sugar coat his words. He is not the man for multi-paragraph eloquence. He is, however, being honest to a fault, and it comes across in his writing.
You're not going to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. S*Gaiden will not make long cases, write stunning insights, or sugar coat his words. He is not the man for multi-paragraph eloquence. He is, however, being honest to a fault, and it comes across in his writing.
gonna be honest here, i feel like delivering divine justice to flubber or maaaybe 22.
You're not going to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. S*Gaiden will not make long cases, write stunning insights, or sugar coat his words. He is not the man for multi-paragraph eloquence. He is, however, being honest to a fault, and it comes across in his writing.
You're not going to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. S*Gaiden will not make long cases, write stunning insights, or sugar coat his words. He is not the man for multi-paragraph eloquence. He is, however, being honest to a fault, and it comes across in his writing.