Open 569 ~ Hope + 1 ~ Game Over!

[Team 9]

/⑨

[Team 9]

vote: Sakura

thx a lot for making me join a game when I shouldn't be signing up for any games. are you town?

-Rumia

[Team 9]

dayvig: Varsoon

-Rumia

[Team 9]

I shall try. however I have literally 0 motivation for mafia atm, so I don't have any confidence

are you obvtown yet?

[Team 9]

It should be a sin to dream this big.

no comment to me dayvigging you?

this is supposed to be war

-Rumia

[Team 9]

and they prob have a QT spy too. even though it's still a bastard role

who's the scumvig who can also become a 2nd godfather if he wants?

-Rumia

[Team 9]

no shit. I'm still fucking mad at that setup. especially after you all lolkilled me N1

and we were totally gonna make the longest masonry ever, until that happened. I still haven't seen anyone break 300 like we did that quickly \o/

-Rumia

[Team 9]

the best part about that mason QT was how we posted so quickly we got the post numbers to desync

I still haven't been able to do that anywhere else

I legit thought we'd break 1000 posts if we were able to keep going

[Team 9]

legit townread on dave

discuss

-Rumia

[Team 9]

is that serious?

either way, I am offended you don't trust me when we've cleaned house together previously

-Rumia

[Team 9]

You may clean houses, but I clean toilets. I can see you're full of shit from a mile away.

serious or not serious?

bc I am actually at least somewhat serious. or semi-serious, anyway

-Rumia

[Team 9]

do you think a newb scum who almost certainly is in his 1st game would post smth like this:

Feel free to post incriminating evidence so that I may use it against you later.

immediately when the game starts?

rather, the entire opening came across as open in a way that gave me town vibes. it's possible but it seems unlikely a newb scum could fake that right off the bat.

get on my level n00b

[Team 9]

got anything better then, Varsoon god-of-mafia-sama?

same with you Gaiden

[Team 9]

Notscience wagon is hot.
I'm not getting any answer to my question and notsci is bouncing around into conversations without dedicating heavily to them.
Then again, that's fairly null. Still, it's a good excuse to park a vote and squeeze a guy.

since when was not answering a question that's not supposed to be serious a good excuse for squeezing a guy?

also I'm not sure what you even mean by the 2nd point. where is NS doing that?

-Rumia

[Team 9]

vote: Sakura

thx a lot for making me join a game when I shouldn't be signing up for any games. are you town?

-Rumia

You say this to who now?

VOTE: Team 9

I don't do RVS.
But this is no longer RVS.
This is war.

I need to insert a youtube video here but sadly I'm on tablet right now

I came back to the site hoping to roll a scumgame with this one, but I'm town here.
It's probably karma.

You have no idea how much I want to roll scum these day.

It was cute.
It made me jealous.
Like I am of the Team 9 hydra.
;_;
I should have never taken a break.

There's always a slot open for Wriggle!

do you think a newb scum who almost certainly is in his 1st game would post smth like this:

Feel free to post incriminating evidence so that I may use it against you later.

immediately when the game starts?

rather, the entire opening came across as open in a way that gave me town vibes. it's possible but it seems unlikely a newb scum could fake that right off the bat.

get on my level n00b

Uh... let's talk about this on skypc when ur around

Notscience wagon is hot.
I'm not getting any answer to my question and notsci is bouncing around into conversations without dedicating heavily to them.
Then again, that's fairly null. Still, it's a good excuse to park a vote and squeeze a guy.

Sure thing
VOTE: notsci

-Cirno

[Team 9]

top

[Team 9]

Then why are you not voting any of them you cheeky scumfuck

-Cirno

[Team 9]

The moment he reaches L-1.

-C

[Team 9]

I'm pretty sure you're scum.

Pretty sure I'm not.
(Note to self: kill Bitmap n1 silently)

Good Avatars are avatars that I like.
GuyInPie is currently null.
Though I have Pie in the permanent "Paranoia Zone".

And that's why I'm here for, right?
I'm easy as hell to read if you know what to look for.

Sakura, why do you think NS was run up so quick but the game is stillbehaving like RVS for the most part?

Because people don't seem to want to analyse or question? That's my guess.

No its because notsci huge wagon on early d1 is nothing unusual.

-C

[Team 9]

hi guys

--Mystia

[Team 9]

Varsoon is a charming guy and pie suck at making a good RVS vote.

[Team 9]

Oh hi fery it's about time you chime in

[Team 9]

To be fair, I appreciate being the third wheel so I can drop in whenever I feel.

-M

[Team 9]

sorry that was too many caps, people will realize I'm not ffery.

[Team 9]

Pie's way too srs to make the best random vote.
The list of head is in the OP.

[Team 9]

We're Cirno, Rumia and Mystia at the moment!

But don't tell Feirei that!

I'm the long-lost third member tee hee hee.

-M

[Team 9]

(Plus fery and kuribo)

[Team 9]

(Plus fery and kuribo)

Right, sorry, forgot them.

[Team 9]

But seriously, I have a varying degrees of townreads on Dave guy, flubber, notsci, and Titus.

P-Edit: when I'm in hydra, people tend to not read me and try to read my hydra partner instead (without much accuracy), so that's my first "hi guys I exist too" post.

[Team 9]

Tbh, with this playerlist, it's not a surprise if the RVS reaches 15+ pages

[Team 9]

You should be grateful that I'm even posting at this point because that's not what I promised with pie when we hydra'd. I was supposed to be at the background and let pieguy do all the work.

-C

[Team 9]

Serious about what?

[Team 9]

Tbh i find you harder to read than pieguy GiF

But what about me?

-M

[Team 9]

Dammit mystia

[Team 9]

Dammit Cirno!

[Team 9]

The mod has banished me to the Shadow Realm!

Goodbye woooorrrrrrrlllllldddddd!

-M

[Team 9]

;-;

-C

[Team 9]

VOTE: Bins

asfsafsafsafsafhadh aetsaf sadfas

[Team 9]

No it's MVP for most visageous player. (Is visageous even a word?)

[Team 9]

Which one?
This one or MVP?

Because this one technically has 9 heads while MVP is only 3.

-C

[Team 9]

lolwut

Why do you have 9 heads

lmfao

Me, pieguy, natirasha, hanasawa, fery, kuribo, nacho, thenewearth, and Varsoon for future member :3

-C

[Team 9]

Currently only 2. Third one has posted but he was banished into the shadow realm.

-C

[Team 9]

As I said, third head posted.

P-Edit: yes.

[Team 9]

Varsoon's town.
You touch him, I cast Icicle Fall ~Easy~ on you.

-C

[Team 9]

No pie is Rumia.

Mystia was... someone else lol

[Team 9]

why?

Gut.
And my gutread on Varsoon is never wrong.

-C

[Team 9]

That was when I tried to logic-read you~

[Team 9]

After those two games I learned that my gut read is far more superior to my logic read.

[Team 9]

Oh. How do I know this isn't one of scum-Gif's tricks to buddy me like Scum gif always does?

Leap of Faith obviously.

[Team 9]

hey bitmap rvs is over

"Help me Bitmap!"

[Team 9]

Yeah I fucked up that vote because I misspelled "leap of faith".
But I was too late when I realized that.
(Oh also, thank you for reminding me of mutiny on pieguy)

[Team 9]

VOTE: Bins

[Team 9]

The fuck happened to this game

-Rumia

[Team 9]

Totally relevant.

-C

[Team 9]

a

[Team 9]

RECAP OF PREVIOUS EVENTS SO FAR BECAUSE I'M A NICE GUY

- Wild "Mystia" appears and soon shunned to shadow realm.
-

VOTE: Bins

WAGON HO

But seriously, she's scum

But notsci, you lovable piece of town you, why is she scum?

Because she's avoided talking about anything and is avoiding the thread

and she insulted my honor

But on a more serious note, townreading atm-

Pie- I don't think he sounds like he's spent all of pregame spamming the scum QT

Varsoon- I'll probably reevaluate this later but I haven't hated what he's posted

dave- Because gif said so and pie seemed town so he gets to be town

bulge- Because obv is bins is scum he is town

-

bulge- Because obv is bins is scum he is town

What. (Also why didn't Bins comment on this?)

-

(because it's a joke and i just laughed)

-*ppl votes Bins*

-*shit happens*

You're welcome.

[Team 9]

Let me introduce you to notsci's scumgame...

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=28540

/runs

-C

[Team 9]

I have NS and dave as town. my original dave townread was kind of a bullshit reaching reason in order to try and get the game away from RVS, but both me and GIF liked his 3rd post. Sakura is null-town, but there was smth that pinged me:

I dunno I found him opening with a vote and asking me if i'm town kinda awkward, I'd think pie would omit the "Are you town?" part and just wait for a reaction, It maaay be a bit of a stretch, but that's what I'm going with for the time being.

this is indeed kind of a stretch, but that's not the point. why was your response to my reach out to alienate yourself from me right from the get go? this is not what I was expecting from you, especially given you told me you really wanted to play another game with me.

-Rumia

[Team 9]

I didn't see it as a reach out, i saw it as a "OMG PIEGUY'S BEING WEIRD" kind of stuff.

how was it not obvious it was a reach out? what did you think I was going for instead?

-Rumia

[Team 9]

and I don't like the way flubber jumped onto that wagon either

-Rumia

[Team 9]

Well i don't know, I'd expect a reach out to be a "Let's work together and beat the crap out of scum!" instead of a "Here let me vote you and ask you if you're town".

and you didn't see "are you town" as an invitation to work together?

cos that's what it was

-Rumia

[Team 9]

I wanna vote tn. that wall has literally nothing of substance in it

-Rumia

[Team 9]

tn what the hell are you trying to accomplish with anything in that wall? I'm used to you providing content when you're town. that wall has 0.

-Rumia

[Team 9]

Nope I didn't, when i think of reach outs i think of like a paragraph or a wall text like the stuff i once said to town where i was hard defending scumcho or when i reached out to notty in touhou upick 2, Not just a simple "Are you town?" there's no emotion in that to be reach out.

what's your current thoughts on tn?

-Rumia

[Team 9]

The game is still in RVS and yet you accuse ME of not having substance?

there are several things that have happened that aren't RVS

-Sakura's scum read on me
-Bins wagon and the way various ppl interacted with it
-most of the ppl have legitimate content
-our reads are all serious

so, try again

-Rumia

[Team 9]

2

macho

doctors

[Team 9]

My current thoughts is that I didn't like his wall. Nor the fact that he ended the wall with no conclusions but with a joke.

how does this fit into your meta view of tn?

I hate to bring up #lolmeta but, iirc, when tn's been town previously he's had no problem spinning content out of RVS and trying to drive the game forward. the exact opposite of this game where he seems to be content with having no content and floating along (not to mention, he completely missed everything that actually did happen).

[Team 9]

I personally didnt like his cherrypichking

where was he cherrypicking? I can't find it

-Rumia

[Team 9]

Like the only thing i remember of him related to mafia is him linking an ongoing mafia game on irc mafia and me getting mad about it and that's about it...

http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/search.php?auth ... 8&t=199573

not too focused on it bc #lolmeta, but there it is

[Team 9]

you and I must have different definitions of cherrypicking. mine is when someone selectively applies logic to one person but not another person. although I do agree the lack of of anything substantial is scummy

-Rumia

[Team 9]

By that logic, the very existience of this game is scummy because there is nothing of real substance here.

So now it seems like YOU are cherrypicking.

Which is it?

there are several things that have happened that aren't RVS

-Sakura's scum read on me
-Bins wagon and the way various ppl interacted with it
-most of the ppl have legitimate content
-our reads are all serious

try again

-Rumia

[Team 9]

Also does anyone else find it odd that tn complains about the lack of content and he doesn't generate any?

^this

-Rumia

[Team 9]

nvm tn might be town. I'd rather give him some room for now

@tn:

you've already got a summary of a lot of the content that happened. do you have any comments about any of it?

-Rumia

[Team 9]

it's literally right above you

-Rumia

[Team 9]

What made you change your mind?

do you think tn-scum would get visibly frustrated enough with you to consider replacing out?

I do admit it was kind of a knee jerk reaction. looking at it again it comes out of nowhere and it seems fakeable. but either way I'd rather give him some room and see what he does for now

-Rumia

[Team 9]

390 has my eye on Team 9 now.

why?

-Rumia

[Team 9]

After I got banned for doing stuff like that?

did you miss his comment where he asked you to give him a reason not to replace out?

or are you saying you disagree

-Rumia

[Team 9]

hey tn

Sure, have someone else do your thinking for you so you can get back to fluffposting. I don't see how people see this and don't think "scum".

1. we're not fluffposting at this point. everything after 295 that you pointed out was serious.
2. what's the scum motivation in fluff posting? I can see scum hiding behind it, but we have a shitton of content. like, do you apparently think we're scum who's deliberately fluff posting for whatever reason?
3. why do you think we're letting someone else do our thinking for us? if you were reading the thread (or even our ISO in any depth), you would know that I

just posted my thoughts on you right before asking Sakura.

also, fluff posting isn't alignment indicative, even if it pisses you off.

I don't see the need to respond to the rest of the post bc it doesn't look like you thought through it at all, so this is as much of a reach out as you'll get from me. if you're town, you're on the wrong track.

-Rumia

[Team 9]

I have no reads from the threat to replace out. Yours are weak and you've even admitted it. But you still want to give tn room. Meanwhile tn continues on this whole fluff rant while still trying to prove everything is fluff instead of pushing for reads. And the room you're giving him is just making him defensive. Maybe you're onto something, but if you're not, I'm scum reading your defense.

what's the scum motivation in giving tn room? generally if someone looks visibly frustrated or doesn't have enough time for the game, it's better to give them more room and see where it goes instead of directly interfering with them. ex: if I had continued pressuring tn, there might have been a chance he'd just shut down and then we wouldn't get all these walls to analyze.

[Team 9]

Oh pie

my sweet sweet masonbuddy

why are you reaching out to scum

I'm undecided on tn's alignment. most of these angles about fluff posting are really odd and/or shallow, but I almost wanna write him off just bc he's pushing really really hard - he's drawing a shitton of attention to himself in a way I'm not sure he would as scum. there's nothing cautious about his play.

do you disagree?

-Rumia

[Team 9]

10/10

-Rumia

p-edit: re: hydra

[Team 9]

TN is looking better than Sakura, imo.

why?

-Rumia

[Team 9]

If you don't have the time to write relatively decent posts you NEVER should have started playing forum!mafia/stopped playing irc!mafia.

So I heard that the playstyle attack should be returned with a playstyle attack.

[Team 9]

I'm still a bit salty about it.

You should've been. That was my second policy lynch ever.
While I appreciate that you're trying to fix that, being an elitist is no way to fix any playstyle, ever.

[Team 9]

I'm not sure if you've even replied to my wall toward you yet, I'll look and get back to it if you did.

No chance. I don't read quote-strips.

[Team 9]

SH is town.
notscience is town.
Team 9 is scum.
Bins is scum.

Sure thing.

Yes
Yes
Wrong
Yes

[Team 9]

About the osu game, I LOL'd when you guys assumed that "get on what what you're going to do anyway" was a scumclaim.

Actually that was the point where my read on you went policy.

You (assumed town at the time)had already decided that I was scum and nothing I said would have cleared me.
I was doing my best to bait the scum into quickhammering me so town would get suspicious of them.

In order to pull that off, you need to balance that with the townread on you. Also giving up just because you reached L-1 was totally unacceptable. Even Sakura can change her read when ppl try enough.

-C

[Team 9]

Also whoever is scumreading tn needs to consider these factors first.

1) Hypocricy != scum

2) Are you scumreading him out of pride damage or actually a good reason to scumreading that is not #1?

[Team 9]

390 has my eye on Team 9 now.

why?

-Rumia

I have no reads from the threat to replace out. Yours are weak and you've even admitted it. But you still want to give tn room. Meanwhile tn continues on this whole fluff rant while still trying to prove everything is fluff instead of pushing for reads. And the room you're giving him is just making him defensive. Maybe you're onto something, but if you're not, I'm scum reading your defense.

^
Towniest post I've ever seen in this game.

[Team 9]

Yeah, bullshit

O u wanna fite?

[Team 9]

Wait a minute.
Is anyone townreading Bins in this game?

[Team 9]

Bulge

Who's this guy?

Also I had a feeling that Bert doesn't care about Bins

[Team 9]

Wait a minute.
Is anyone townreading Bins in this game?

I asked this because

You know, you should try things like that when everyone including Bert and Bulge have come and interacted.

2) any town looking from the outside by SHOULD HAVE SAID THIS IS A BAD WAGON
like holy hell how long do i have to wait for my knight to come

I don't see this coming from scum.

-C

[Team 9]

mfw slash doesn't work

[Team 9]

actually, that post is wrongly formatted as hell. Lemme repost.

[Team 9]

Wait a minute.
Is anyone townreading Bins in this game?

You know, you should try things like that when everyone including Bert and Bulge have come and interacted.

I asked this because

2) any town looking from the outside by SHOULD HAVE SAID THIS IS A BAD WAGON
like holy hell how long do i have to wait for my knight to come

I don't see this coming from scum.

-C

[Team 9]

Make a list of your reads so far bc I dunno where you stand at and your quote-strips makes me glaze over.
Massive quote-strips are just as bad as massive fluffing.

[Team 9]

The only reason why our reads are different is because I have no skype access right now and don't have time to consolidate our reads.

[Team 9]

Scum
Sakura

If I say "Hey I can read Sakura much better than you do and I say she's town so kindly back off and sheep me or I will use my 'Icicle Fall -Easy-' on you", will that change your mind?

Because I'm very good at pointing out TvT and TvS.

P-Edit: What's the point of me moving my vote when pieguy's gonna put it back in? We need to get together and consolidate before we move our vote. I already have someone in mind.

-C

[Team 9]

"WAIT LEMME TALK ABOUT WHO WE SHOULD SCUMREAD BEFORE YOU POST"

This is called "Sound of Silence when town".

[Team 9]

GIIIIIIFFFF

talk to me about 407. I don't think it's that town. "Maybe you're onto something, but if you're not, I'm scum reading your defense." isn't a natural thought process imo. he also says tn is ranting about fluff but didn't do anything or comment about it while it was going on. he also said all that while he was on the wagon we're on and without voting either us or tn.

I don't think Bins is scum. feel free to move our vote

also I hated Titus' post, but I wanna see how it develops until I'm sure

-Rumia

[Team 9]

No. Sakura accused me of not participating, and continues to do so.

She's asking for me to death tunnel.

And this is the point where your pride is taken a hit enough to scumread the opponent for non-alignment-indicative reason.

[Team 9]

GIIIIIIFFFF

talk to me about 407. I don't think it's that town. "Maybe you're onto something, but if you're not, I'm scum reading your defense." isn't a natural thought process imo. he also says tn is ranting about fluff but didn't do anything or comment about it while it was going on. he also said all that while he was on the wagon we're on and without voting either us or tn.

I don't think Bins is scum. feel free to move our vote

also I hated Titus' post, but I wanna see how it develops until I'm sure

-Rumia

I'll explain later because it's kinda complicated.

Then without further ado,
VOTE: Titus

[Team 9]

@543 You've made it abundantly clear that you aren't really reading my replies when they stray outside of your agenda, so you can forget me replying to your walls until you stop.

Read: "I can't counter her points anymore because she's right"

And this is the point where Sakura is confbiased enough to take everything that tn says as scum.

See, I told you. TvT.

[Team 9]

I mean, if you expect all scum to play cautious like I do then sure, he could be town

But have you never seen someone go on and whine about something like that to look busy?

generally I wouldn't expect scum who are trying to look busy to do it by making a bunch of wall posts and polarizing the entire thread. plus, the arguments he was pushing are really odd and I'm not sure if scum who's trying to look busy would bother with it - on the other hand, given everythign else he did, I can see him as town pushing that as an argument.

plus his conviction feels town as fuck.

do you disagree?

-Rumia

[Team 9]

btw I agree with GIF. Sakura is 99% town and anyone who thinks otherwise should just sheep us.

-Rumia

[Team 9]

Join ths fun then!
Wagoning Titus will get us more info than Bins wagon at this point will go nowhere.
We can always come back to Bins when we find something suspicion from her again.

-C

[Team 9]

I think Titus might as well be Bins scumbuddy instead of flaffy, mostly because of her "You're scum" but not wanting to participate in the wagon because she didn't want to be busing.

that's not what pinged me about her post

what pinged me didn't have anything to do with associative tells either

I'd rather not out it tho until I'm more sure about it. bc she will probably continue displaying it if she's scum

-Rumia

[Team 9]

I'M TERRIBLY SOWWY FEIREI IT'S ALL MY FAULT IT'S ALL MY FAULT IT'S ALL MY FAULT IT'S ALL MY FAULT WAAAAAAAAA ;-;

[Team 9]

Would you rather see your townread fite your townread?
I don't think you do.
Do you?
(We obviously meant "sheep our read on sakura")

[Team 9]

Anyone who disagrees with you should sheep you? :S It's shit like this that makes me think you are scum. You lack anything close to logical consistency.

Sakura is obviously town, but no one should sheep because they DISAGREE.

you're missing the point

anyone who's scumreading Sakura is wrong and should sheep us bc we have the most experience reading Sakura and there is no way we're wrong

I think you're being deliberately obtuse about this. it's p fucking obvious that's what I meant.

-Rumia

[Team 9]

Well now that's been cleared
Why are we scum?

[Team 9]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... &start=175

LIKE SERIOUSLY
LOOK AT THIS WAGON

I thought it was a fucking joke wagon.

That was my first serious vote.

And it wasn't because you didn't do anything.
It was more of because I didn't like the way you laughed off notsci's scumread on you.

[Team 9]

because i can't read GIF

I still await for someone who actually try to read me and actually read me correctly ;-;

[Team 9]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... &start=175

LIKE SERIOUSLY
LOOK AT THIS WAGON

I thought it was a fucking joke wagon.

That was my first serious vote.

And it wasn't because you didn't do anything.
It was more of because I didn't like the way you laughed off notsci's scumread on you.

[Team 9]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... &start=175

LIKE SERIOUSLY
LOOK AT THIS WAGON

I thought it was a fucking joke wagon.

That was my first serious vote.

And it wasn't because you didn't do anything.
It was more of because I didn't like the way you laughed off notsci's scumread on you.

notsci likes to joke around a lot. not sure if this is relevant.

It is.

[Team 9]

TN, I've frankly skipped your walls. Responding inline is the fastest way to get ignored.

Flubber, have you played in any games beyond the newbie game

Meanwhile,

Bins just flails... (MVP is notscience...)

Actually that MVP was me.

[Team 9]

His push on me is lamesauce.

I'm not pie.
Also your push on us is lame too so we're even then!

P-Edit: No he's talking about GIF-way of secretly policy lynching someone.

[Team 9]

And I can only vote for one scum read at a time, geez.

why is Bins scum?

[Team 9]

Really, I've caught Team 9. :S So the whole "easily caught" thing is not true. I also don't see him being aggressive. His push on me is lamesauce. I've seen harder pushes by well anyone.

you are my first hard scum read. I am not going to be overagressive towards someone I don't seriously believe is scum.

however, it's bc of a pattern I observed starting with one post, which I am continuing to observe in your play

I am not going to hard push that until I'm absolutely sure about it

also, you are aware you're asking for internal consistency from a hydra, correct?

-Rumia

[Team 9]

PIE

FFS

NOW I CANT EVEN DO IT

sorry bins I have to stay on your wagon now

what do you need?

fwiw, I agree with Titus scum

-Rumia

[Team 9]

I needed you not to reveal that was what I was tlaking about and for GIF to come in and help me pull it off

fuck. sry @_@

[Team 9]

@Flub:

why is Bins scum?

[Team 9]

I needed you not to reveal that was what I was tlaking about and for GIF to come in and help me pull it off

DW.
If we ever get to pull it off no one will see it coming.

[Team 9]

Ok pie let's do this

Unvote
Vote: Titus

Bins eyebrow raise is justified and titus is doing actions that dont make sense for a townie to be doing.

Since when do I make sense to you SH? The last time I recall making sense to you was Micro Me.

And you're scum reading the one of the most out-of-the-box players in this site for not making sense.

[Team 9]

No I was talking about me right there.
I lynch claimed cop, claim third party as town for hell of it, I townread someone on purpose of getting reads when I don't actually have a townread on them, and 90% of my post is a reaction test.

[Team 9]

No because in the end, it all solves out and everything I did magically make sense.

[Team 9]

So no signing = Natirasha?

He's mystia.

[Team 9]

(Also I proudly brag that twice I tried to lynch a claimed cop twice they were scum. One was actually lynched the day I pushed him and the other one was lynched the next day I pushed him.)

[Team 9]

The game had started a while ago.

[Team 9]

Good. The game is started. Anyone RVSing from here (seriously) gets a death tunnel.

You see, last time you tunneled on me in NY game you tunneled me so hard that my feeling went past the frustration and reached the point of enjoying being tunneled like a masochist.
In this game I'm not feeling this.

-C

[Team 9]

That would be because I am not tunnelling you.

What is this shit?
You say you've "caught" me and you're not even bothering to tunnel?
COME AT ME BRO
TUNNEL ME LIKE YOU'RE A FUCKING SADIST
I WILL GLADLY RECEIVE IT LIKE I'M A FUCKING MASOCHIST

[Team 9]

Aw that was disappointing.
I was getting myself ready.

[Team 9]

I am a masochist I think

Believe it or not I once realized that I'm more of a sadist than a masochist.

[Team 9]

Didn't he say "context"?

[Team 9]

Good. The game is started. Anyone RVSing from here (seriously) gets a death tunnel.

this is forced as fuck

like I know it's Titus, but fucking really? this seems more like moonlogic more for the sake of moonlogic, as opposed to actually believing the game didn't start until now.

-Rumia

[Team 9]

we're not lynching tn

Sakura, notsci, get off and sheep me

-Rumia

[Team 9]

top

[Team 9]

top

no fluff pls

No way.
This is my secret art of being awesome at playing mafia in general.
Fluffing time to time makes me able to focus and clear my head from frustration.
Also, first amendment.

-C

[Team 9]

I'm kinda scared that tn is slowly turning into Wake before his amendment.

[Team 9]

I'm kinda scared that tn is slowly turning into Wake before his amendment.

Does this remotely resemble the town tn from that game where you policy lynched him?

No.
And this game shows that he's trying to move away from that regardless of his alignment.

[Team 9]

I wasn't aware that I had signed up for a marathon game. This is extremely tiring. I'm honestly considering never playing again.

Welcome to most of the fast-paced game ever.

[Team 9]

I linked it. Only me and Sakura knew that I basically policy-lynched tn in that game and no one else knows that.

[Team 9]

@sakura, NS:

what do you think of 706?

both me and GIF are positive tn is town. on the other hand, I don't believe Titus legitimately thinks RVS didn't end until she made that post. even if it's Titus, this makes literally 0 fucking sense for anyone to even think.

on the other hand, this is smth I see all the time from Titus scum - she'll generally say or do things that make absolutely no sense just for the sake of it in order to get read as town. this is exactly what she is doing here.

do you disagree?

[Team 9]

Funnily enough, I townread all of your scumreads.

You must be scum.

-C

[Team 9]

^
To Titus

[Team 9]

Hey Team9 is this good enough for you?

I mostly wanted your case in order to get a better read on you, bc GIF thought you were town and I disagreed. neither me or GIF are scumreading Bins and it's probably unlikely to change for the time being. I haven't looked through your case yet in detail, but the parts I did read looked town on a gut level.

-Rumia

[Team 9]

No. Sakura accused me of not participating, and continues to do so.

She's asking for me to death tunnel.

And this is the point where your pride is taken a hit enough to scumread the opponent for non-alignment-indicative reason.

@543 You've made it abundantly clear that you aren't really reading my replies when they stray outside of your agenda, so you can forget me replying to your walls until you stop.

Read: "I can't counter her points anymore because she's right"

And this is the point where Sakura is confbiased enough to take everything that tn says as scum.

See, I told you. TvT.

[Team 9]

Why the fuck does officially ending RVS make no sense to you?

you're completely missing my point

the point is, you claimed RVS had only ended when you made 706. which is complete bullshit and I don't believe anyone can actually think that - on the other hand, it reads as moonlogic for the sake of moonlogic, since everyone knows Titus = moonlogic.

so, how did you completely miss the fact there was a shitton of content before 706?

-Rumia

[Team 9]

Funnily enough, I townread all of your scumreads.

You must be scum.

-C

0 fucks given

Good. The game is started. Anyone RVSing from here (seriously) gets a death tunnel.

this is forced as fuck

like I know it's Titus, but fucking really? this seems more like moonlogic more for the sake of moonlogic, as opposed to actually believing the game didn't start until now.

-Rumia

-1 fucks given

Then again its a hydra so, you know, hard to read. That's why I'm leaning town rather than having a stronger townread. Team 9's motivations aren't totally clear to me.

You obviously had some fucks given on those posts since they were worth mentioning.



-C

[Team 9]

I meant that 'you' gave 0 fucks.

But if I have given 0 fucks would I post that at all?
You thinking that I'm diligent enough to do that is silly.

-C

[Team 9]

I'm legit pissed that tn's being obvscum and no one even cares about lynching him, my townread on pieguy's suffering because of that hard defense of him

Woah. Don't take my credit.
I'M whiteknighting him.
Not pieguy!

[Team 9]

Then let it suffer.
Just be ready to atone that once tn flip town.

I originally was gonna stop y'all by force but sometimes it's just better to let it continue until everything sorts out by itself.

[Team 9]

And that's the first thing I agree coming from tn!

[Team 9]

That's probably the confbias talking.

Implying i have confbias means that you think or know i'm town, so what made such change?

Didn't I tell you that he wasn't actually scumreading you?

[Team 9]

Considering this game so far, laying low is the best plan for scum while everyone else tears each other apart.

^

[Team 9]

Didn't I tell you that he wasn't actually scumreading you?

His vote certainly says otherwise.

His vote is a spite. His posts against you is a spite. He's literally attacking you out of spite. And that's town.

[Team 9]

This game depresses me.

Lot of town are gonna fight against each other until everyone is exhausted and apathetic.
Scum's gonna steamrolling this game from D3.
We'll die n1 so we won't be able to save this game.

It's just that this sucks that despite I can see everything coming, I can't do shit about it.

[Team 9]

You know what's even more depressing?
I correctly guessed every one of your moves at skype.

[Team 9]

This game depresses me.

Lot of town are gonna fight against each other until everyone is exhausted and apathetic.
Scum's gonna steamrolling this game from D3.
We'll die n1 so we won't be able to save this game.

It's just that this sucks that despite I can see everything coming, I can't do shit about it.

Then start with fucking pointed questions. Defeatism helps no one.

Better get this thing over with than later.
Even though it's feel like eternity, it's only been like 24 hours.

[Team 9]

Yes and that game is where you tunneled me to everliving hell.

[Team 9]

We'll blurt out our depressions until page 26, and then we'll resume this game with more optimism.
Are we good on this?

[Team 9]

That was to Sakura. I have foreseen her beginning, middle, and the end.

[Team 9]

Claiming outside communication?

Yes. With pieguy.

[Team 9]

We'll blurt out our depressions until page 26, and then we'll resume this game with more optimism.
Are we good on this?

Time machine...

I meant 36. I can't see small letters.

[Team 9]

No pls
stop this townbloc stuff
I need to save this game so I'm not allowed to die n1 dammit

-C

[Team 9]

<3

[Team 9]

Reject Titus
Add Bins

[Team 9]

#swag

[Team 9]

Dunno if that's a good thing or bad thing. I've never been with geeks before
But what I do want to do is to shift the focus on someone who really hasn't been given much attention and I believe is to be coasting around.

VOTE: startfromtheheart

-C

[Team 9]

beetlejuice too OP

[Team 9]

No, 39.

[Team 9]

Because we're the shining pinnacle of townhunter.

[Team 9]

Also whoever is scumreading tn needs to consider these factors first.

1) Hypocricy != scum

2) Are you scumreading him out of pride damage or actually a good reason to scumreading that is not #1?

Y'all are too slow

[Team 9]

My pride isn't damaged

I just don't like elitists

And I've already said I feel like most of his bitchmoaning about fluff+the fight with sakura were to make him look busy

"Hating the elitist attitude" was implied in point 2.

I never called him scum for being a hypocrite, I called him scum because of the way he put my posts and called them fluff seems like he just threw a bunch of posts and called them fluff just to fit what he was saying earlier about more than half my ISO being fluff, which is what i cotinued to arguie with him and then he started making up reasons to scumread me.

Yes. I think you're also in #2. Your pride was damaged as he called all your posts fluff and you had to fortify your pride by turning to "I dare you to scumread me come at me bro" stance.

[Team 9]

And then you proceed to hurt tn's pride in return and so the war began.

[Team 9]

And now both sides try hard to "scumpaint" each other because y'all's pride was at the stake and both sides ended up bringing every nitpick thing as possible to scumpaint each other as more as possible.
You say he was scum painting you for silly reasons, but in his pov, you're the one who's scum painting him for silly reasons.

The only reason people were wagoning tn was because you had a town points to start with.
I daresay that if tn had more town points than you did at the beginning, the game would've taken a very different direction.

/reality check

[Team 9]

Your pride was damaged as he called all your posts fluff

Because they aren't fluff, there was content and he's using the fact that he called them fluff for not commenting on anything, you know, that's how this whole thing started.

Exactly.
The whole thing that started the flames was his elitist attitude, not something scummy.

[Team 9]

aaaaand you completely avoided my point.

Actually I think I'm spot on for this.

[Team 9]

I know for sure that if I say one sentence, all pressure/suspicions on Bins will disappear, but saying that one sentence is antitown as fuck.

[Team 9]

We don't need no 20 pages of notsci turning into a scrub though.

[Team 9]

I swear ppl will call me a fucking sage at the end of this game.

[Team 9]

So why do you say this:

Bins you should come duo with me

Instead of trying to support me on my argument against tn considering you're also scumreading him?

He did that a page ago.

[Team 9]

You know I'm voting bert right now right

[Team 9]

She said she's gonna proxy. I'm not voting titus right now.

[Team 9]

Oh

Unvote:
Vote: startfromtheheart

And while you prod dodge, read my reality check post a few times.
And try to think about it as an objective view.

[Team 9]

What good will that do?
Let her have her time. Have her time to freshen her mind and stuff.
Then let her come back to this game at her own will and go on.

[Team 9]

Do you have experience with her doing this?

Even if I didn't it's still the best way.

[Team 9]

It's still amusing to see that all this happened in less than 48 hours.

[Team 9]

It ain't flubber.

[Team 9]

If there was a scum in Bins wagon and Bins is town, Titus is the most likely to be scum.

[Team 9]

Wrong town

[Team 9]

Is that to me or scrubsci

P-Edit: for me I'm poking some of the ppl who hasn't been getting attention.

[Team 9]

Well we're on the same boat on that one.

[Team 9]

a

[Team 9]

and here i thought you joined to troll with me.
i feel betrayed.

i actually didnt join until i saw you had joined, i wasnt comfortable knowing that i would be the only troller

But your trolling is sub-par.

[Team 9]

Titus is still scum. I'll elaborate on this after I convene with GIF (at class atm). also I hate her choice of things to comment on recently. she's supposedly scumreading us and Bins, but she's not doing or saying anything to actually push either of us - whereas in my town game with her, she put a shitton of effort into chasing her suspects and never gave up on it.

-Rumia

[Team 9]

Titus - Town. Typical Town Titus. Calm, collected, even when getting wagon'd.

why do you think Titus is town?

I completely disagree - in fact the way she's playing here is so off from what I have experience with there's no way I think she could be town. what are your thoughts about her push on us?

-Rumia

[Team 9]

Titus - Town. Typical Town Titus. Calm, collected, even when getting wagon'd.

why do you think Titus is town?

I completely disagree - in fact the way she's playing here is so off from what I have experience with there's no way I think she could be town. what are your thoughts about her push on us?

-Rumia

Since when did she push us?

-C

[Team 9]

I feel like if we lolflashlynch one of the random minimum posters were gonna have a scum lynch.