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Post Post #4550 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:19 pm

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HighShroomish 6 (shos, Nero Cain, ProHawk, The Goat, Oversoul, neil1113)


Nero Cain 3 (Squirrel Girl, neil1113, Lord Mhork)

xofelf 2 (BBmolla, ActionDan)
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Post Post #4551 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:20 pm

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In post 4537, notscience wrote:Who should I vote

Shroomish or neil.
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Post Post #4552 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:21 pm

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In post 4544, Abomination wrote:Why is this scum fuck not dead yet?

VOTE: BoP

Seriously how does anyone townread that?


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Post Post #4553 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:21 pm

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In post 4551, Majiffy wrote:
In post 4537, notscience wrote:Who should I vote

Shroomish or neil.


Not Neil.
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Post Post #4554 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:22 pm

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In post 4543, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4529, Majiffy wrote:Coughskcough

remind me why you stopped pushing Shos.

there should be a role that can sort him. If we cant get him figured in a day or two I am totally down with lynching him.
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Post Post #4555 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:23 pm

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In post 4553, Malakittens wrote:
In post 4551, Majiffy wrote:
In post 4537, notscience wrote:Who should I vote

Shroomish or neil.


Not Neil.

Why not? Please address why he has twice ignored my requests to provide quotes and arguments for neroslip case.
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Post Post #4556 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:23 pm

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In post 4546, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4480, Nero Cain wrote:s.
In post 4479, Birds of Prey wrote:The last comment about Goat being more useful than he is just seems out of place, as if you would be trying to link the two together.

How in the world is that trying to connect Goat and Neil?


Goat hasn't exactly been useless, just what he posts tends to be scummy.
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Post Post #4557 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:24 pm

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In post 4552, Malakittens wrote:
In post 4544, Abomination wrote:Why is this scum fuck not dead yet?

VOTE: BoP

Seriously how does anyone townread that?


Because its not scum okay!!


Seriously, I'm just the wagon people push if they want to avoid content. I'm used to it.
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Post Post #4558 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:29 pm

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In post 4556, Birds of Prey wrote:
In post 4546, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4480, Nero Cain wrote:s.
In post 4479, Birds of Prey wrote:The last comment about Goat being more useful than he is just seems out of place, as if you would be trying to link the two together.

How in the world is that trying to connect Goat and Neil?


Goat hasn't exactly been useless, just what he posts tends to be scummy.

ok.....you think his posts are scummy so....me saying that Neil is less useful than Goat is connecting them?

*head explodes*

Maybe someone else can explain this to me 'cause I'm not getting it.
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Post Post #4559 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:35 pm

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You're connecting them by a) encouraging comparisons where Neil comes out townier than someone else widely suspected thus creating an "alternative" to lynching Neil, b) causing subsconscious associations to form regarding things that frankly aren't true and c) serves as a backhanded discredit to both slots as well.
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Post Post #4560 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:40 pm

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In post 4547, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4545, Moogle Dance Troupe wrote:
In post 4543, Nero Cain wrote:
pls add SG and Mhork to your pool of possible targets.


And oversoul and xof and we're perfect.

remind me of your XOF case. Why are you scum reading OS?


Spoiler: Xof case
Flavor

Foxfire as an undead detector. This is unbelievably stupid, it's like having an ability called "Shoot fire at a player: you learn whether that player's role is, because fire does that."

Shippo has no roleblocking or non-self commuting abilities. Shippo's principle contribution to the team's efforts throughout the series is to distract, stun, or confuse enemies, or to provide single person transport (usually for kagome). It's insane that ceph would design a shippo with 9 abilities, none of which are "manipulative/blocking"

Rolename

Again with the hexmage thing, a hexmage hexes. Look at the hexmage from FE:A. Almost all her abilities are offensive and blocking/manipulative (because that's what hexing is). Yet shippo the hexmage has no such abilities.

Night actions

No one commutes when they're under the scrutiny she was, no matter how inept. There were several claimed PRs who sounded far more dangerous than she had made herself out to be, and she had every reason to
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that she would be investigated if she were town. Instead she commuted N1.

N1 she decides to investigate her counter-claimant, BBmolla. Instead of checking whether he's undead, which she claims to be able to do, she checks one of his abilities and discovers it's roleblocking/manipulative. This makes no sense. BB had claimed JoAT, essentially. It makes no sense to check one of his abilities and hope that it's somehow incriminating rather than checking his alignment directly. Also, BB's claim suggest that she likely lied about her ability, and probably followed him rather than "ability copped."
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Post Post #4561 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:46 pm

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As for oversoul, BB's action makes things fall into place there.

BB blocked me, and naraku prob had me perform the kill. I hadn't thought of that possibility, and I bet naraku didn't either. One of the missing kills was likely naraku's last night.

With at least one failed kill coming from naraku, oversoul's looks like a pretty glaring scumslip. Conveniently, it's other players I suspect who wanted to call it otherwise. Couple that with , where he hopes Y&B is the SK? That makes no sense, no SK in the world would fakeclaim something that's impossible to maintain for an entire 28 player game. It comes from the mindset of someone who knows Y&B is not groupscum, but maybe actually thinks they're scum.
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Post Post #4562 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:48 pm

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In post 4559, Birds of Prey wrote:You're connecting them by a) encouraging comparisons where Neil comes out townier than someone else widely suspected thus creating an "alternative" to lynching Neil, b) causing subsconscious associations to form regarding things that frankly aren't true and c) serves as a backhanded discredit to both slots as well.

but I'm town reading Goat so this connection shit is stupid and in my op I said "Goat is being more useful than you are." You being Neil and that is NOT me claiming Neil is townier than Goat as you contend.
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Post Post #4563 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:51 pm

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re: Mhork: I dunno; I think that the fact that he *actually* prepared for a long time, in a way, the claim that there is an undead non-scum makes me sorta believe him. I don't think he should be our lynch or vig target. Mhork, if you're town, you should step up your game.

Why should I add SG to my viglist? she's a confirmed doublevoter, right?

I can add oversoul easily
no reason to do that with xof though, it's like BoP, this will be taken care of as the game evolves and progresses.
I can also add abomination very easily with that stupid 4544 and general lack of anything.

re: counterwagon to lemni: I dunno, honestly. if he was my partner, double-bussing is obviously a legit move for distancing. if I am town and he is scum, which is the case, then I absolutely see no reason for him not to vote me. so no idea; on both shos-alignments I would buss my partner if they were my cw if I were him. probably derped or something?

Dat Flavor part in the Xof case is intriguing, actually. in fact the whole case sounds good.
I like. but still I think this should be addressed later.
What if Xof claimed all his abilities? I mean he's a JOAT, he surely will be killed eventually if he's truly town, and as long as we're tons of people, we can make sure he is protected and help directing his abilities.


pedit: pshh, hot damn, that does look like a scumslip. MDT be town if he flips scum. I'ma go for it. VOTE: Oversoul and wonder what to do with shroomish somewhen later/

pedit2: leave these slots alone for the while, they are not relevant
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Post Post #4564 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:53 pm

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In post 4555, Majiffy wrote:
In post 4553, Malakittens wrote:
In post 4551, Majiffy wrote:
In post 4537, notscience wrote:Who should I vote

Shroomish or neil.


Not Neil.

Why not? Please address why he has twice ignored my requests to provide quotes and arguments for neroslip case.


Because I fucken said so. Read between the lines, litterally.
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Post Post #4565 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:54 pm

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Xof is a girl btw.

Then again Shos always calls me a boy too sooo~
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Post Post #4566 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:55 pm

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In post 4565, Malakittens wrote:Then again Shos always calls me a boy too sooo~

We'll aren't you a tomBOY?
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Post Post #4567 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:55 pm

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In post 4564, Malakittens wrote:
In post 4555, Majiffy wrote:
In post 4553, Malakittens wrote:
In post 4551, Majiffy wrote:
In post 4537, notscience wrote:Who should I vote

Shroomish or neil.


Not Neil.

Why not? Please address why he has twice ignored my requests to provide quotes and arguments for neroslip case.


Because I fucken said so. Read between the lines, litterally.

I dont care. Im tired of neil playing incredibly antitown and he needs a good kick in the ass to set him straight.
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Post Post #4568 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:00 pm

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Btw, time for a....readlist!

Lord Mhork - town, just stated why. his subtle softclaiming of being undead town looks genuine to me.
ProHawk - in the game?
BulbaFenix - scum, will probably be my vig target tonight
Oversoul - scummy, and the last mention of a possible scumslip in this page above here makes it today's lynch
Squirrel Girl - doublevoter...I always think they're town. no reason to lynch or kill.
beastcharizard - in the game?
notscience - vig target quite possibly too. scuummy mcscum
Birds of Prey - town through claim. that crumb was amazing and I highly doubt commuter scum.
ActionDan - null
Moogle Dance Troupe - null in general; if OS flips scum then UBERTOWN
Svenskt Stål - oh I forgot all about him. to my viglist, too. ah so many choices.
Majiffy - null leaning scum. his answer to my question disputed my townread on him and Sven, and his play is SO MUCH subpar. I mean this is Majiffy, I expect better
Nero Cain - probtown
Malakittens - town, this slot has been my townread since like gamestart
Young and Beautiful - town through claim iirc.
neil1113 - town through super softclaim confirmed by others
Abomination - scummy mcscumfuck lescum
The Goat - MEEEEE/nullish
Venmar - didn't he replace out.?
Hey mod, can you update first post?

BBmolla - nullwierd
xofelf - probscum through case, but claim keeps him alive for the while
Egg - non contributor entirely. I mean wut. more 'in this game?' than the other above
HighShroomish - probscum; how comes it's been so long and there wasn't a single counterwagon rising against his wagon, which still lead by 4 before I voted OS?

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Post Post #4569 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:00 pm

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*sigh* wouldn't it just be better if neil claimed (alone)?
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Post Post #4570 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:03 pm

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No itd be better if neil wasnt scumvp
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Post Post #4571 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:05 pm

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In post 4567, Majiffy wrote:
In post 4564, Malakittens wrote:
In post 4555, Majiffy wrote:
In post 4553, Malakittens wrote:
In post 4551, Majiffy wrote:
In post 4537, notscience wrote:Who should I vote

Shroomish or neil.


Not Neil.

Why not? Please address why he has twice ignored my requests to provide quotes and arguments for neroslip case.


Because I fucken said so. Read between the lines, litterally.

I dont care. Im tired of neil playing incredibly antitown and he needs a good kick in the ass to set him straight.



Imma give him a kick in the ass. I just need a Watson to my Sherlock atm, okay?!!!
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Post Post #4572 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:11 pm

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Oh youre the sherlock huh well find another watson BUDDY
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Post Post #4573 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:12 pm

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Lynch Shroomish?
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Post Post #4574 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:13 pm

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In post 4563, shos wrote:re: Mhork: I dunno; I think that the fact that he *actually* prepared for a long time, in a way, the claim that there is an undead non-scum makes me sorta believe him. I don't think he should be our lynch or vig target. Mhork, if you're town, you should step up your game.

I was slightly suspicious of Mhork early game 'cause I think scum like to be "mb isn't confirmed, you slipped" but common sense says this game was very likely to have multile killing roles. He has some posts about being lost and not knowing whats going on and those read really fake. I also think his hop onto me is totes bullshit and 20x more likely to come from scum then town.



Why should I add SG to my viglist? she's a confirmed doublevoter, right?

Confirmed role=//= confirmed town.

I think SG is scum for wigging out when I noticed her flip on the Abomination alignment. I think her defending Neil is scummy as F all since she was avoiding the actual conversation and playing revisionist. Town doesn't or shouldn't do either of these.
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