InuYasha Mafia (Game Over)

ProHawk · Post Post #108 (isolation #0) » Fri Jun 27, 2014 2:30 pm

Should have started this game with a disclaimer.... that I love large games.

VOTE: Always

In post 51, mastin2 wrote: Town.

Prob-town.

Prob-scum.

Scum

ProHawk · Post Post #318 (isolation #1) » Sun Jun 29, 2014 4:24 am

In post 226, Always wrote:
In post 108, ProHawk wrote:VOTE: Always
Scum
Prob-town.

Well, you aren't very fun.

In post 232, Abomination wrote:
In post 227, shos wrote:guys abom has too little votes.
Can we lynch this guy for real though?

Sure.

VOTE: shos

Just a quick disclaimer: I make no promises to be capable of keeping up with this size of a game. But I will pretend.

ProHawk · Post Post #324 (isolation #2) » Sun Jun 29, 2014 4:44 am

In post 320, ActionDan wrote:I don't

Don't be a sour puss.

ProHawk · Post Post #540 (isolation #3) » Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:08 pm

Whoops, way behind, lets see what's new...

ProHawk · Post Post #602 (isolation #4) » Wed Jul 02, 2014 8:08 am

Who's got the family jewels?

ProHawk · Post Post #604 (isolation #5) » Wed Jul 02, 2014 8:17 am

Weren't we talking about getting hitched earlier?

ProHawk · Post Post #606 (isolation #6) » Wed Jul 02, 2014 8:38 am

Thats what I am trying to find out Moogle. Thats what I want to know.

ProHawk · Post Post #656 (isolation #7) » Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:31 pm

What would you like me to post ffery?

ProHawk · Post Post #659 (isolation #8) » Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:47 pm

In post 657, geists wrote:I haven't called you out. You've posted enough that I have a tentative read.

That's fine, but I am here (but not caught up), so lets bounce reads. I see you voting xofelf, walk me through that.

ProHawk · Post Post #660 (isolation #9) » Wed Jul 02, 2014 2:16 pm

In post 468, shos wrote:You will never lynch me if I claim. Lets halt at that.

In post 478, shos wrote: I won't get lynched or killed actually. it's just useless lol. I won't even need to claim -_-; but seriously, why am I being voted.? anyone at all..?

I don't think anyone commented on these. We need to challenge this soft-claim.

ProHawk · Post Post #838 (isolation #10) » Sat Jul 05, 2014 3:42 am

In post 817, geists wrote:Prohawk, I thought we were going to talk reads.

Right. I can see where you are coming from on xofelf, but not my first choice. I have scum-readsish on Dan, AngryIece, and Shos.

ProHawk · Post Post #839 (isolation #11) » Sat Jul 05, 2014 3:44 am

In post 660, ProHawk wrote:
In post 468, shos wrote:You will never lynch me if I claim. Lets halt at that.

In post 478, shos wrote: I won't get lynched or killed actually. it's just useless lol. I won't even need to claim -_-; but seriously, why am I being voted.? anyone at all..?
I don't think anyone commented on these. We need to challenge this soft-claim.

Shos, comment on this ^

ProHawk · Post Post #840 (isolation #12) » Sat Jul 05, 2014 3:46 am

In post 621, Always wrote:Thus, it's best to keep the jewel shards as much as possible out of scum's hands.

How would one go about doing this?

ProHawk · Post Post #850 (isolation #13) » Sat Jul 05, 2014 5:24 am

Rheago I could lynch today.

I haven't paid much attention to Y&B, I will look at them with a more scrupulous eye and get back to you.

In post 845, HighShroomish wrote:but I correctly read them both the last two game days I am going to die in a pool of my own tears.

I don't get it, and yes, you have AI and Always in the wrong categories.

ProHawk · Post Post #852 (isolation #14) » Sat Jul 05, 2014 6:05 am

Read where AngryPidgeon come in and how he interacts with Mastin.

ProHawk · Post Post #860 (isolation #15) » Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:01 am

Shos, you claim to be unkillable/unlynchable even without a claim, so are you against running you up to prove your claim?

ProHawk · Post Post #885 (isolation #16) » Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:52 am

In post 478, shos wrote:I won't get lynched or killed actually. it's just useless lol. I won't even need to claim -_-; but seriously, why am I being voted.? anyone at all..?

ProHawk · Post Post #1161 (isolation #17) » Mon Jul 07, 2014 3:43 pm

Hmm.... I am supposed to be ISO'ing people, but haven't had time yet. I don't really want to lynch xofelf...

ProHawk · Post Post #1631 (isolation #18) » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:34 pm

... I think someone asked me to look at Y&B. I liked the joking humor in their posts, don't wan't to see them go today. Best leading wagon so far is Shos. I don't want to see xofelf go today either.

VOTE: Lemniscate

I guess if people don't want shos, we can throw up another contender.

ProHawk · Post Post #1871 (isolation #19) » Sat Jul 12, 2014 7:34 am

I noticed the Y&B wagon seems to be dissipating... can I direct you all back to this lovely post and lack of trajectory?

In post 1796, Lemniscate wrote:UNVOTE:

VOTE: Young and Beautiful

After the past couple of pages, I'm okay with this direction.

VOTE LEMNISCATE

ProHawk · Post Post #1911 (isolation #20) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:27 am

In post 1908, BulbaFenix wrote:Explain Dan.

Gut.

ProHawk · Post Post #1946 (isolation #21) » Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:06 am

In post 1940, geists wrote:If you don't like the lemniscate wagon then you don't like Nati. This interests me greatly.

Or ProHawk. Other problem, weren't you an advocate of multi-ball at one point? I will evaluate the other players on this wagon as well...

ProHawk · Post Post #1952 (isolation #22) » Mon Jul 14, 2014 4:42 am

In post 1946, ProHawk wrote:
In post 1940, geists wrote:If you don't like the lemniscate wagon then you don't like Nati. This interests me greatly.

Or ProHawk. Other problem, weren't you an advocate of multi-ball at one point? I will evaluate the other players on this wagon as well...

Sorry for the confusion... this post was supposed to be directed toward Always/Mastin.

ProHawk · Post Post #1953 (isolation #23) » Mon Jul 14, 2014 4:43 am

Hello to you too Shroomy, you should really be voting for Leminiscate, any particular reason why not?

ProHawk · Post Post #1957 (isolation #24) » Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:11 am

In post 1956, AngryIcerink wrote:Mastin is towntowntowntown

Suck-up.

ProHawk · Post Post #2052 (isolation #25) » Mon Jul 14, 2014 4:23 pm

In post 2044, Lemniscate wrote:Nobody has actually made any case on me, but rather my predecessors.

Lets chat about your vote on Y&B.

ProHawk · Post Post #2057 (isolation #26) » Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:24 pm

In post 2055, Lemniscate wrote:I was sheeping the YandB wagon because nobody was listening to any other wagon

Is that what you meant by the last couple of pages?

Also, why the Nero Cain vote?

ProHawk · Post Post #2078 (isolation #27) » Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:11 pm

In post 2073, HighShroomish wrote:I'm not sure if my vote did it's job or Hawkie just decided to start posting. Either way-
UNVOTE

Says the man who actually didn't even

read

my post...

ProHawk · Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:10 pm

In post 2171, Lemniscate wrote:Just interested in hearing you quickly stumble over yourself to make a case on me.

ProHawk · Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:12 pm

In post 2079, notscience wrote:prohawk join me in my quest for glory

Your Mork Quest for Glory?

ProHawk · Post Post #2179 (isolation #30) » Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:03 pm

The past couple of pages....

So starting on Page 69, Y&B was at 10 votes, Xofelf 5 votes, Leminiscate 4 votes.

Y&B trying to defend themselves, SG and Jiffy conversing with eachother, HS making random comments and calling me into the thread. BulbaFenix committing Mists post to memory, and Mhork talking about Strawmanning. Gheists wanting to know where Katsuki was.

Page 70, Y&B at 10 votes, Xofelf at 6 votes, Leminiscate at 4 votes.

Y&B continuing with their defense, ActionDan talking about how HS's post doesn't make him town/how he doesn't like pbpa, BoP back and forth with Y&B, egg saying its gonna be hard to catch up, and gheists expressing their disapproval with one point of Y&B's defense. SG making a point to Y&B.

Page 71, Y&B at 10 votes, Xofelf at 6 votes, Leminiscate at 4 votes.

BoP attacking Y&B, Y&B on the defense and discussing HS with Dan, Nero making a ego-post?, TSO asking why Y&B have a scum-read on them, HS attacking Y&B, Majiffy addressing SG and responding to Y&B's comment about him being town.

Page 72, Y&B at 10 votes, Xofelf at 6 votes, Leminiscate at 4 votes.

HS attacking Y&B, shos complaining about spamming, Y&B defending, MDT making a post about their scum-reads, Sven with the feet selfie, SG responding to Jiffy and adding thoughts to the thread, gheists conversing with MDT, Mhork posting to Y&B, TSO conversing with Y&B and THEN comes...

In post 1796, Lemniscate wrote:UNVOTE:

VOTE: Young and Beautiful

After the past couple of pages
, I'm okay with this direction.

Then I ask, why did you vote for Y&B?

In post 2055, Lemniscate wrote:Okay? What about it? My vote was exactly what it appeared to be.
I was sheeping
the YandB wagon because
nobody was listening to any other wagon that was trying to form
at that moment and
I just wanted to get past Day 1.

So from my analysis, there was no one to sheep exactly from the last couple of pages (Votes were static), nor any other wagon was even being attempted to be pushed (Even Majiffy was being quiet about Shos at that point). From the statement "After the past couple of pages" leads me to believe that there was something IN the pages that led you to that conclusion, yet you say it was just a sheeping vote and you do not comment further on the question I asked.

This is not a town-response to these questions. Am I all alone in my reasoning here?

ProHawk · Post Post #2181 (isolation #31) » Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:40 pm

Mhork - Between This

xofelf 8 (Egg, ActionDan, AngryIcerink, Moogle Dance Troupe, BBmolla, Young and Beautiful, shos, TheGoat)

Lemniscate 5 (Squirrel Girl, Svenskt Stål, ProHawk, Nero Cain, geists)
shos 5 (BulbaFenix, Majiffy, Venmar, Lord Mhork, Mist7676)

Why did you sideline Lemniscate?

ProHawk · Post Post #2183 (isolation #32) » Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:43 pm

Sideline? Why didn't you include her in the deadline between "shos and xof" when she is tied in votes with shos?

Sideline being a reference to sports where you keep players out of the game.

ProHawk · Post Post #2185 (isolation #33) » Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:45 pm

You forgot the words with your meme AI

ProHawk · Post Post #2196 (isolation #34) » Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:21 pm

I hope all of you who are ignoring my post are scum so I don't have to hate you in the end.

ProHawk · Post Post #2201 (isolation #35) » Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:24 pm

Do you know how insanely hard it is to get 15 votes?

ProHawk · Post Post #2368 (isolation #36) » Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:57 am

In post 2316, Svenskt Stål wrote:
Ffer
,
squirrel
,
prohawk

Lets get the gang together and abolish this foolishness.

Nope nope and nope. Not one person commented on my case. Not one. I'm not moving from this foolishery.

ProHawk · Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:11 am

Sounded to me like he was trying to get me to move onto the leading wagon at the time? :S

P-EDIT: Go hide in a corner Tweety Bird. No one cares about you. And I don't have a read on Mhorky.

P-P-EDIT: Please forgive my comment about no one caring. I was also caustic.

ProHawk · Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:12 am

Oh, and when Leminiscate flips scum, I will spend all of D2 rubbing it in your face AI.

ProHawk · Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:30 am

In post 2379, AngryIcerink wrote:Don't think for a second that a scum flip from Lemon makes you probtown though

Maybe not, but it does legitimize my case after you see me flip town.

ProHawk · Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:36 am

At this point, you are correct. You should hop on.

ProHawk · Post Post #2593 (isolation #41) » Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:54 pm

In post 2592, geists wrote:I don't think he'd indiscriminately alienate other players in the process.

I think I have seen this happen before.

ProHawk · Post Post #2680 (isolation #42) » Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:36 am

Lemni's claim is super sketch. Four masons, and not one is willing to clear the other when this lynch was pretty clearly going to happen? Scum are also a type of masons together. And i'm not quick wagoning anyone, if I have to compromise on anyone it will be shos.

NS, what happened to that newb-flail?

ProHawk · Post Post #2682 (isolation #43) » Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:38 am

In post 2638, AngryIcerink wrote:I want someone to actually bring him [ProHawk] up.

In post 2372, AngryIcerink wrote:My god, if I acknowledge your [ProHawks] case will you stop being a whiny little bitch about it?

LO freaking L

ProHawk · Post Post #2683 (isolation #44) » Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:40 am

In post 2639, notscience wrote:I don't remember such a laid back prohawk.

I'll take this as a compliment.

ProHawk · Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:51 pm

In post 1469, AngryIcerink wrote:Can we talk about my Mist case? I want attention, god damn it.

~Pajaro.

Look what I found in ISO land. Sorry AP, guess I am not over you calling me a whiny bitch. You POS hypocrite-scum.

ProHawk · Post Post #2745 (isolation #46) » Thu Jul 17, 2014 2:10 pm

In post 2738, neil1113 wrote:The only reason I could think of, is if she really believes the other options are town power roles and is literally trying to sacrifice herself.

Or... her mason buddies are really scum-buddies in which case she wishes them to keep quiet for obvious reasons.

In post 2733, Svenskt Stål wrote:lol wtf prohawk, this is not how i remember you from skype mafia.

Yes, I am a bit more bold when I don't have to converse live.

ProHawk · Post Post #2791 (isolation #47) » Thu Jul 17, 2014 3:19 pm

If someone confirms Lemni, I will help lynch Shos.

ProHawk · Post Post #2853 (isolation #48) » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:24 pm

In post 2852, geists wrote:
In post 2835, AngryIcerink wrote:
In post 2833, notscience wrote:In FEA cephrir gave us 4 fakeclaims at the start of the game.

OK.

Has he ever done the thing where he lets scum request a fakeclaim on the fly to go with a particular ability fakeclaim?

This is one of the two possibilities listed in the 2-3 paragraphs.

- Iec

Didn't he tweak your fake claims on the fly in AMoL?

Yes. I am living proof.

ProHawk · Post Post #2855 (isolation #49) » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:33 pm

And the fake claims were very, very, elaborate.

ProHawk · Post Post #2973 (isolation #50) » Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:37 am

Aww man! They were going to be my opening vote for today

ProHawk · Post Post #2974 (isolation #51) » Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:42 am

Who is Le Cupcake? Abomination?

ProHawk · Post Post #2975 (isolation #52) » Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:43 am

In post 2869, Le Cupcake wrote:I'll put it simply that I have reasons to believe Lem's claim is not fake.

I would probably like to vote this, if I knew who it was... also they have some 'splanin to do.

ProHawk · Post Post #2990 (isolation #53) » Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:00 am

I was looking at Neil as well for possible scum-buddies...

In post 2911, neil1113 wrote:
WOAH

WOAH

WOAH

WOAH

WHAT?!?!?!?

Really? We're pushing a lynch on a claim that is EASILY able to be proven, rather than pushing a lynch on somebody that someone has EVIDENCE in their own flavor that the other person is lying, and is nearly confirmed scum?

Because of deadline?

Yeah no. I'm more in favor of lynching scum, then lynching a testable claim that can be potentially dangerous to scum, all because of deadline. The fact that you're still even pushing up a wagon, knowing that someone is not able to be killed at night and would be a danger to scum, is literally doing scum's job for them. What the hell is wrong with you?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Shos

Mist is just an inactive person that suddenly came alive near deadline. I don't like that, but with a claim like Shos, I feel like Shos would be the better lynch subject. I didn't realize Majiffy had evidence.

(Sorry Majiffy.)

P.S. Molla is basically confirmed scum. Look at that ISO, look at it... tell me I'm wrong.

But this post was one post before the hammer vote. I highly doubt he is this ballsy scum.

Maybe the mod can help me out since I can't seem to find it.

VOTE: Le Cupcake

ProHawk · Post Post #2994 (isolation #54) » Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:05 am

I also support an ActionDan lynch. Looks like a legit find from post #588.

ProHawk · Sun Jul 20, 2014 12:33 pm

I think Gimli and Legolas were fake-claims IIRC

ProHawk · Post Post #3075 (isolation #56) » Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:34 pm

Why not Birds? I thought I had seen a post of theirs that was suspect.

ProHawk · Post Post #3076 (isolation #57) » Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:34 pm

And I think we are more likely to catch bussing players than non IMO

ProHawk · Post Post #3129 (isolation #58) » Mon Jul 21, 2014 5:08 am

What is moon logic?

ProHawk · Post Post #3160 (isolation #59) » Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:27 am

I am going to shelf Le Cupcake against my better judgement (she avoided and is still avoiding my request) and help out with this.

VOTE: BoP

ProHawk · Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:09 am

In post 3181, Birds of Prey wrote:Gut says ProHawk

Yes, I suck. Go on.

ProHawk · Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:40 am

In post 3184, Titus wrote:Little content sudden wagon hops. You don't sound like BoS ProHawk

You should re-read my ISO. I don't know what BoS is.

ProHawk · Post Post #3247 (isolation #62) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:58 am

In post 3246, Le Cupcake wrote:I was simply being too smart for my own good.

Right...

ProHawk · Post Post #3313 (isolation #63) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:37 am

In post 3302, Egg wrote:So no one thinks Kat is scum? =/

I do.

P-Edit: What scum fakes a guilty D2?

ProHawk · Post Post #3322 (isolation #64) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:40 am

Y&B's claim is not a long con. I don't see scum there at this point.

ProHawk · Post Post #3331 (isolation #65) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:05 am

I don't like how people are ignoring Le Cupcake. She needs like a bajillion more votes.

VOTE: Le Cupcake

ProHawk · Post Post #3366 (isolation #66) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:53 am

In post 3346, geists wrote:Played much with katsuki?

Nope

ProHawk · Post Post #3369 (isolation #67) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:59 am

And? Leminscate was also a lurker lynch.

ProHawk · Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:06 am

Welp, better to lynch earlier than later if she is town and decides to play the "lets lie as town game to get what I want".

ProHawk · Post Post #3415 (isolation #69) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:20 pm

In post 3410, Kagami wrote:Actually, BoP's claim makes it almost certainly 20-7-1.

Could you maybe keep it to one account?

ProHawk · Post Post #3511 (isolation #70) » Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:00 pm

I don't get all the role stuff. People still want BoP dead?

ProHawk · Post Post #3539 (isolation #71) » Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:53 pm

In post 3520, Nero Cain wrote:or kat

ProHawk · Post Post #3611 (isolation #72) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:41 am

It was a legitimate question shos. I need some time to do some more associative analysis unfortunately.

ProHawk · Post Post #3709 (isolation #73) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:56 pm

In post 3708, HighShroomish wrote:
UNVOTE
VOTE: NEIL

And HS disappears into the murk again...

I probably wouldn't mind voting this.

ProHawk · Post Post #3712 (isolation #74) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:41 pm

VOTE: Shroomish

ProHawk · Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:08 am

In post 3763, shos wrote:ascetic scum? isn't that like, super, uber, extra overpowered?

Ceph likes extra overpowered scum roles IIRC.

ProHawk · Wed Jul 30, 2014 11:07 am

Modified Godfather Watcher Tracker Dreamwalker

ProHawk · Post Post #3799 (isolation #77) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:01 pm

In post 3798, Birds of Prey wrote:VOTE: neil

Time to move our vote where it will be useful.

Always, how do you know neil isn't a doublevoter? Solely bc Squirrel Girl is?

Survival Vote?

ProHawk · Post Post #3821 (isolation #78) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:49 am

Mhork

In post 3708, HighShroomish wrote:
UNVOTE
VOTE: NEIL

And HS disappears into the murk again...

Explain how THIS is town motivated.

Hint:

This is his only mention of Neil in his ISO (aside from a "Hi"). This vote also pushed neil into the lead IIRC.

ProHawk · Post Post #3839 (isolation #79) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:13 am

In post 3831, Majiffy wrote:ProHawk I didn't even realize you were in this game. Come be not-a-big-pile-of-nothing to me.

Uhh, what?

ProHawk · Post Post #3847 (isolation #80) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:30 am

In post 3840, Majiffy wrote:

Where have you been? What have you done? What reads do you have? Why do I not even know you exist?

Oh you know, nothing too big, just led the lynch on scum. What have you done? Pushed for shos D1, nice work there jiffy.

ProHawk · Post Post #3907 (isolation #81) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 4:53 pm

In post 3898, Always wrote:Ugh.

Fuck. Whoever said this felt town it actually rings town, but could be faked.

Conflicted.

Ill get Mastin's opinion if she ever comes back.

Shroomish is no amateur when is comes to "town-slips" of which we have played games together in which this topic had been discussed/attempted and covered. I wouldn't put this past him to try and fake, nor do I feel like its a great "case" for why he is town this far into the game. The best part about the slip is that he doesn't lose anything by saying "I'm a miller cause I am a Daemon". He either gets town points, or he get village idiot points. Very little risk-high reward play.

He hasn't been playing the game. Has no trajectory for the Neil-vote. Admittedly stated he won't play the game. Just got destroyed in a game letting this fly. Not this time.

ProHawk · Post Post #3908 (isolation #82) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 4:54 pm

In post 3906, Birds of Prey wrote:It's one thing to trust Mala's town. It's another to trust she's right.

If their squawking that Neil is town is only because of "reads" I will be very disappointed in them.

ProHawk · Post Post #3911 (isolation #83) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:02 pm

Because anyone claiming to be able to "read" someone is a crock of crap.

ProHawk · Post Post #3913 (isolation #84) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:09 pm

In post 3912, HighShroomish wrote:Cause fuck me if I didn't

Are you going to do yourself?

ProHawk · Post Post #3916 (isolation #85) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:57 pm

Start by being a contributor.

ProHawk · Post Post #4033 (isolation #86) » Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:12 am

Goat, your gut isn't compelling. You should vote for HighShroomish, or give a good reason why not.

ProHawk · Post Post #4037 (isolation #87) » Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:17 am

This is for Goat, who doesn't seem to be keeping up.

In post 3907, ProHawk wrote:
In post 3898, Always wrote:Ugh.

Fuck. Whoever said this felt town it actually rings town, but could be faked.

Conflicted.

Ill get Mastin's opinion if she ever comes back.

Shroomish is no amateur when is comes to "town-slips" of which we have played games together in which this topic had been discussed/attempted and covered. I wouldn't put this past him to try and fake, nor do I feel like its a great "case" for why he is town this far into the game. The best part about the slip is that he doesn't lose anything by saying "I'm a miller cause I am a Daemon". He either gets town points, or he get village idiot points. Very little risk-high reward play.

He hasn't been playing the game. Has no trajectory for the Neil-vote. Admittedly stated he won't play the game. Just got destroyed in a game letting this fly. Not this time.

ProHawk · Post Post #4039 (isolation #88) » Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:18 am

Neil, your perspective of Mist is determinate on your alignment of which I am not aware. I'm not sure what you are getting at re: Shroomish, but too scummy to be scum isn't a real thing.

ProHawk · Post Post #4041 (isolation #89) » Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:20 am

Keep Calm and Read my Post. Kthx.

ProHawk · Post Post #4046 (isolation #90) » Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:26 am

In post 4043, neil1113 wrote:Actually come to think about it ProHawk, I never once mentioned anything about Shroom being "too scummy to be scum"... I've never once participated in that fallacy here...

Neil wrote:I wonder if Shroom is trying to be lynched, or just terrible at Mafia???

Maybe you should clarify that above then?

ProHawk · Post Post #4048 (isolation #91) » Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:36 am

Meaning he is too scummy to be scum, because you obviously don't think he is scum, but think his play is terrible. Amirite?

ProHawk · Post Post #4054 (isolation #92) » Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:48 am

Usually when people say that was terrible, or that was bad, or the like usually implies scum. So if you think it was just terrible-town maybe you should be a little more specific.

ProHawk · Post Post #4056 (isolation #93) » Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:59 am

Then what is the point of saying something is terrible? To be a jerk?

ProHawk · Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:39 pm

We are two days away, both Shroomish and Mist don't really care that they are being lynched. I am good with either one with a preference of Shroomish.

ProHawk · Post Post #4092 (isolation #95) » Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:13 pm

In post 4087, geists wrote:I kinda don't think Lemni would have been lynched without Svenskt's help. Pere might want to rethink that read.

Because of his near/hammer vote?

Yeah, there were multiple peeps that voted Lemni after Sven. Sven even posted this once upon a time.

In post 2898, Svenskt Stål wrote:I am not voting lemniscate when her claim is confirmable.

I rather no lynch than doing something hasty.

Ohyeah, bbm is not looking very good lol.

Spoiler: Posts that Sven made about Lemni (4)

Tell me again how Lemni wouldn't have been lynched without the stalwart efforts of Sven?

ProHawk · Sat Aug 02, 2014 11:35 am

In post 4131, Moogle Dance Troupe wrote:Lemon lynch happened because of geists

Why am I feeling left out? Oh yeah. Geists were also another group of people that unvoted for another target IIRC. Then later flopped back on.

ProHawk · Sat Aug 02, 2014 11:47 am

In post 4098, Svenskt Stål wrote:That went horribly.

Prohawk-

I was on lemni before you, before anyone, when the slot was known as rhaego.

Get you facts straight or shut the fuck up.

Oh my bad.

I forgot scum never vote their partners D1.

I forgot that you never hunted Lemni/Rheago but instead made random comments about other people and game-state.

I forgot that you unvoted Lemni right after her "confirm-able" claim.

You should totally get ultra-town-cred for being the first person ever to vote Rheago and not do anything after that. Got it.

ProHawk · Sat Aug 02, 2014 11:54 am

In post 4139, geists wrote:
In post 4138, ProHawk wrote:
In post 4131, Moogle Dance Troupe wrote:Lemon lynch happened because of geists

Why am I feeling left out? Oh yeah. Geists were also another group of people that unvoted for another target IIRC. Then later flopped back on.

Was it scum-play?

Not unless you decided to tell Lemni to claim mason so that you could distance, which I don't believe happened. Just me being sad no one remembers me.

ProHawk · Post Post #4193 (isolation #99) » Sat Aug 02, 2014 6:35 pm

In post 4182, Oversoul wrote:ProHawk (didn't like him trying to take credit for Lem)

LoL, after you mention my awesome post. (Actually put it in a link and ask for commentary which you probably hoped people wouldn't click on anyway). Yeah, you can still be scum, and if you are, you picked the wrong person to push.

The reason you have me in your scum pile is a load of crap.

ProHawk · Sat Aug 02, 2014 7:37 pm

In post 4196, Birds of Prey wrote:
In post 4193, ProHawk wrote:
In post 4182, Oversoul wrote:ProHawk (didn't like him trying to take credit for Lem)

LoL, after you mention my awesome post. (Actually put it in a link and ask for commentary which you probably hoped people wouldn't click on anyway). Yeah, you can still be scum, and if you are, you picked the wrong person to push.

The reason you have me in your scum pile is a load of crap.

While I (drink Titus) thinks Oversoul is a pile of scumshit, I want to know why you think they have you as a scumread as I'm apparently prone to scumread Oversoul according to Dr. Who...

~Drunk Titus

"(didn't like him trying to take credit for Lem)"

Not sure I can infer anything else, don't think I was ever mentioned in any of his "catch-up" posts.

ProHawk · Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:31 pm

Shroomy, why were you so quiet after I called you out and you still lurked to the end?

VOTE: Shroomish

ProHawk · Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:00 pm

Shroom, why is Y&B scum aside from *role*?

ProHawk · Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:06 am

In post 4709, Egg wrote:If I forgot to ask or missed a good answer, let me ask again. Why am I wrong?

I don't think you are.

ProHawk · Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:59 am

Because people want to lynch him?
I realize the alignment of the slot changes, but do you still think Kat's slot is scum evaluating Oversoul?

ProHawk · Sat Aug 09, 2014 4:17 pm

In post 4809, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4806, Majiffy wrote:Someone please vig neil.

I agree that Neil is useless and needs to go however, he claimed to have a shard so why vig him instead of lynching him to get molla the shard?

Why aren't you voting Shroomish?

ProHawk · Sun Aug 10, 2014 4:56 am

In post 4829, Moogle Dance Troupe wrote:I don't imagine that ceph would make up a whole role PM for them

Wrong. All scum got entire fake role PM's in AMOL.

ProHawk · Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:38 am

IIRC he said he would, but let me double check.

ProHawk · Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:40 am

The answer to that is yes.

ProHawk · Sun Aug 10, 2014 9:32 am

I don't know what -10 means, but I hope it doesn't mean that Oversoul is the towniest person in this game...

ProHawk · Sun Aug 10, 2014 9:46 am

In post 4865, Serene2 wrote:I don't feel like giving a long explanation again. Check my post history if you want.

Do you have a link to the theory or is it a secret?

ProHawk · Sun Aug 10, 2014 4:37 pm

In post 4950, notscience wrote:vig neil please

For real? Or just trying to get on Mala's bad side?

ProHawk · Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:11 pm

In post 4986, shos wrote:

ProHawk - This is stupid, this guy literally gis not in my memory. I don't recall a SINGLE contribution from prohawk. Since he's been involved with me in his last few games, and he was town, I find this irritating. leaning scum.

I have been MUCH less useless than you. Maybe you should read the thread.

ProHawk · Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:13 pm

In post 4991, HighShroomish wrote:Shos why would you vig Bulba over say Abom or me depending on who gets lynched(assuming that it will be between Abom and I because we are the leading wagons.)

Why do you not care about being lynched?

ProHawk · Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:51 pm

Shos, I guess the better question is, why have you been ignoring me this whole game?

ProHawk · Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:23 am

SHOS!

ProHawk · Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:23 am

In post 5023, shos wrote:YESZ

Your reads post was pure BS wasn't it?

ProHawk · Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:28 pm

We have lynched one town. And one scum.

ProHawk · Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:39 pm

In post 5066, BBmolla wrote:Prohawk I forgot you were even in this game

Says everyone in this game. Every time they think of me. I am flattered.

ProHawk · Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:05 pm

In post 5069, Egg wrote:I just don't see a case.

Compare Day One play to Day Two, or even Day Three for that matter.

ProHawk · Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:56 am

Been busy, why aren't we running up HS?

ProHawk · Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:36 pm

In post 5221, Kagami wrote:Only problem is that if what prohawk said is true

This should read: if Cephrir decided to change his mod-meta...

Would you like me to provide proof?

ProHawk · Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:45 am

This vote count is depressing. Couldn't lynch Shroomish last game day. Can't lynch him today, I wonder why....

ProHawk · Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:45 am

In post 5279, Squirrel Girl wrote:My basic issue was really the one bit of randomness stuck in, and the overall pro scum utility of the claimed effects.
2 JOATs is certainly possible, but I think there's a fair argument that statistically it's less likely that they're both town even if they are both JOATs.

This post doesn't even make any sense.

ProHawk · Sat Aug 16, 2014 4:20 am

In post 5314, Birds of Prey wrote:

I could go for Shroomish as well but PH still freaks me out a bit.

This is the dumbest reason to not vote for someone.

I would rather see shos go over xofelf. His reads post on me was utter bull calling me a non-entity and then IGNORING my posts directly to him.

ProHawk · Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:09 am

VOTE: shos

ProHawk · Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:40 am

In post 5328, Majiffy wrote:[counterwagoning intensifies]

And?

ProHawk · Sat Aug 16, 2014 8:20 am

In post 5334, penguin_alien wrote:I was all set to deal with this game, and then my morning got derailed (in a non-awful way for a change) so I have to postpone to tonight. But I've already decided I'm giving up on reading the whole game for now. I'll get it in dribs and drabs of relevance.

You need to read a few pages, starting around where Lemniscate claimed and reactions to claim, etc.

ProHawk · Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:20 am

Why is Xof scum Molla?

ProHawk · Sun Aug 17, 2014 2:32 pm

In post 5398, Lord Mhork wrote:Shroom is town though~

What was your take on his reaction to Lemni's claim?

ProHawk · Sun Aug 17, 2014 4:57 pm

In post 2660, Lemniscate wrote:
In post 2659, geists wrote:I really don't like that lemni has disappeared again while the wagon picked up speed.

I'm sorry, I'm here. I've told my partner(s) to keep quiet and let my lynch go through, there's relatively nothing we can do and I don't want them to out themselves, especially since at least one of them have a decent power that can help us. I've got no real power, I'm just a Mason, so I don't have any real power role claim. So in my opinion, if Shos and Xof are telling the truth, my wagon would probably most benefit the town in terms of lynching, because at least we don't lose a power role.

I realize I don't have much to say, I'm sorry. Like I said, this whole day with how many people are in this game is slightly overwhelming for me right now. I'm not "new" per say (in response to someones inquiry earlier), but I've just never played in a large game before. Sorry. :/

If I'm lynched before I'm able to come back on, good luck. And I'm leaving this here for my partners later references:

Alpha.
Omega.
Zen.

Oh, and since I'm giving information, all the information we've really gathered that can help is that there are two scum teams from what our role PM's have given to us and if it matters, we have day talk and the way the mod clarified some of our questions, we suspect the two scum teams would too. That's really the only info I have to give that would be most beneficial.

In post 2661, HighShroomish wrote:What. The. Fuck.

ProHawk · Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:54 am

In post 5431, Lord Mhork wrote:Prohawk, I don't see how that response is indicative of scum at all. That looks town to me.

Why?

ProHawk · Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:15 pm

In post 5434, Lord Mhork wrote:Why would scum act confused at scum Lemni's claim?

Why would town thereby not try to clarify said confusion? (I don't think his WTF had anything to do with being confused by the way). Why would town then treat said claim as conf-town without clearing things up?

ProHawk · Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:19 pm

I have a gut feeling this xofelf is a bad lynch. Like xofelf is just playing bad, the end.

ProHawk · Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:39 pm

In post 5474, Serene2 wrote:
In post 5472, Nero Cain wrote:If elf flips town is Molla scum?

Nope, molla is conftown.

Do you actually win games?

ProHawk · Tue Aug 19, 2014 1:26 pm

In post 5525, shos wrote:Prohawk..

You're literally a moron. The end.

ProHawk · Tue Aug 19, 2014 1:36 pm

Can you shoot yourself? That would be epic.

ProHawk · Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:33 am

Hi guys, I'm town and I am a shard addict. Egg can't possibly be town cause he just gave scum a free shard. Also look for scum early on my wagon. I don't buy BB being town FWIW.

ProHawk · Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:36 am

I really hope scum getting shards isn't extremely overpowered. You guys lynching me because I am a shard thief is extremely hypocritical if you aren't lynching BB for getting powered up BY A SHARD!

ProHawk · Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:38 am

In post 5615, zMuffinMan wrote:wat

If you don't believe me just do it when I flip.

ProHawk · Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:52 am

I am Tsubaki, Town Human Jewel Thief I steal for youth and beauty or some jazz like that, but I figured I would take the jewel to keep it out of scum hands since you know ns decided to announce it to the world. My egg comment is based on the fact
That he considered his result as an absolute scum result when it wasn't and not considering the alternative gives scum ALL of the shards I may have obtained up to this point

ProHawk · Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:54 am

In post 5632, ActionDan wrote:I don't even wrt shos.

Prohawk's claim = not plausible at all.

Because Ceph gives not plausible fake claims.

You're prob scum cause I don't think you can get into an ivy being dumb

ProHawk · Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:55 am

In post 5636, zMuffinMan wrote:and considering you think scum want shards, it seems a logical conclusion to draw, no?

Yes, but it shouldn't have been the ONLY conclusion since apparently the way scum get shards is NOT from stealing them

ProHawk · Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:57 am

Ability is called dark spiritual power

ProHawk · Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:26 pm

In post 5644, shos wrote:so answer me honestly here: are you a third party?

No, my role says town.

In post 5647, shos wrote:
1. pro, explain the thought behind this post?

Shard fishing. I guess you could also consider it a crumb?

In post 5687, Egg wrote:So I still say we lynch Prohawk. Just in case he is telling the truth, hammer should be neil if mala flips town. If mala flips scum, I'd say notscience just because it was his shard to begin with and we've now confirmed that he had it, so it can't hurt to give it back I'd think. A protective role needs to be on whoever hammers. Like absolutely needs to. No exceptions. I wish I could personally help, but I have no action to use tonight.

Or, you know we could actually scum hunt like normal people in normal games instead of trying to beat the system that none of us really know about and are all speculating. If scum get shards from killing people then they will kill me. If they get it from being the hammer vote, then they are likely to get it if they are being universally town-read. If you want to lynch me, then link me to scum or get a real case on me.

In post 5693, Kagami wrote:Prohawk, did you know anything about the shards prior to stealing one? Do you know anything extra about them now?

Nope, I don't know how many shards make up a whole, nor do I know what the power is or does once the whole is combined. I only get told if I get one.

ProHawk · Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:34 pm

In post 5801, zMuffinMan wrote:would be kinda shit for whoever gets that fake-claim!

You get to pick your fake-claim. If you don't like it, you can request another super-duper-elaborate fake-claim be made. STOP TRYING TO FIND SCUM BY ASKING FOR FLAVOR.

ProHawk · Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:41 pm

In post 5824, Birds of Prey wrote:How would you know this?

I was scum in a Cephrir modded game.

ProHawk · Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:43 pm

In post 5826, Egg wrote:Are you really saying I haven't scum hunted this game. My result on you is a possible guilty. I usually vote those.

Still think I am a scum-jewel-thief? I am saying you are taking the easy way out with voting me. Still haven't seen why you think I am scum aside from me stealing a jewel which SURPRISE! doesn't make me scum.

ProHawk · Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:39 am

I personally think the hammering=gets shard thing is bogus, but that could just be me.

Also, random thought while I was doing some re-reading... if you knew you were the person doing the poisoning, would you early-claim poison-proof?

ProHawk · Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:46 am

I have this nagging suspicion that BC is the SK.

ProHawk · Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:57 am

In post 5305, Oversoul wrote:hmm.. town concentration seems to be the strongest on Abomination wagon although I feel like that wagon is on town.
I think that Shos is probably town, as well as Xof. Don't really like the reasons people are voting for her but I don't think anyone will give up on her.

*sigh*

VOTE: Xofelf

This post put the three way tie between Abom (scum), Xofelf (town), and Shos (?). To place Xofelf in the lead.

ProHawk · Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:04 am

VOTE: Oversoul

ProHawk · Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:34 am

Guys, there is an absolute lack of natural trajectory on Xof from Oversoul. He starts off with a large town-read on xoflelf due to "claim", but ends up picking xofelf over Abomination who started out as a maybe town and moved to town later on in his posts. The worst part is him trying to pin suspicion off the xofelf vote-hops and then go on to say that the wagon composition is full of town. Posts don't add up.

Spoiler: Relevant Oversoul-Xofelf Quotes

ProHawk · Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:38 am

In post 6033, shos wrote:eh, no; why would you do that? it just lets people know that there is a poisoner around. the role is a stealthy one, as in, if it is tracked or watched you can claim something else like doc etc...I don't see why one would do that. if Naraku's kills are through poisons, why let everyone know that fact?

I would say if beastcharizard were SK who poisons, it had a freaking good effect wouldn't you? His play is textbook third-party.

ProHawk · Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:41 am

In post 6046, Majiffy wrote:
That's great.

We have direct CCs.

That's great. Should we just speed lynch Aronis then?

ProHawk · Sat Aug 23, 2014 12:12 pm

In post 6054, shos wrote:@prohawk: that's interesting but it's weak and we have much bigger fish to fry now. keep it for tomorrow.

I may not be around tomorrow.

It's really not a weak association when considered with Katsuki's association with Lemniscate. IIRC Abom also soft-defended/went against a Lemni lynch.

ProHawk · Sat Aug 23, 2014 12:43 pm

In post 6072, shos wrote:@Pro: can anyone explain to me what people see in katsuki's ISO that I don't? and what about abom/lemni associations, what can you learn from it? we know they're together >_>;

but anyway, we'll look into it tomorrow when we're smarter, even if you're dead.

Katsuki said he had role info that lemni was telling the truth.

Aboms reaction indicates the general attitude that scum would have discussed in their qt

ProHawk · Sat Aug 23, 2014 2:37 pm

In post 6075, beastcharizard wrote:
In post 6023, ProHawk wrote:I personally think the hammering=gets shard thing is bogus, but that could just be me.

Also, random thought while I was doing some re-reading... if you knew you were the person doing the poisoning, would you early-claim poison-proof?

I haven't been brought up for like ages and now you are doubting my claim? What prompted the rereading?

Also, isn't this proven multiball with those three kills? Why wouldn't I be dead unless I was actually poison proof?

Flips prompted the re-read. You aren't dead because you aren't doing anything. You aren't a threat and your convenient claim allowed you to stay under the radar.

ProHawk · Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:28 pm

In post 6081, zMuffinMan wrote:2 doc counter-claims

Did I miss something?

ProHawk · Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:41 pm

Fine fine fine.

VOTE: Aronis

FWIW, the flipped scum make Shroomish's slot look not so scum.

ProHawk · Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:53 pm

In post 6088, zMuffinMan wrote:did people actually have a scum read on shroomish

I did.

ProHawk · Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:43 pm

Titus, people scum vote don't make them town FYI, and you need to read my Oversoul case. Oversoul is not likely town. At all.

ProHawk · Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:13 pm

In post 6108, Birds of Prey wrote:

Your case sucks shit. It mentions nothing of the vote context at the time and I do see a pretty clear trajectory there.

Oversoul is not confirmed town, but when two confirmed scum chainsaw someone, I'd need more than your lack of comprehension to remove them from the town category.

I really hope you are scum. The hate here is strong with you.

Let's try it this way... can you tell me why you think Oversoul is town aside from scum having voted him?

In post 6200, zMuffinMan wrote:
my slot is the only slot in this game with 100% participation in scum lynches (including before the tracker claim stuff happened) and 0% participation in town lynches

Not true. And your vitriol for shos is really ugly. Chill the freak out. And LOL at your 1/1 considering you only lynched one scum, played for one day. It's not a town-tell anyhow.

In post 6203, Egg wrote:Was Aronis trying to out a doc so they could kill him for shards? Or was it just a dumb random lucky moment? If the second, is Prohawk likely scum for stealing notscience's shard?

Welp, it obviously wasn't a very well planned claim and it was a lie, so what other reason can you come up with?

In post 6207, ActionDan wrote:Also I guess I'll begrudgingly call prohawk town.

Why?

ProHawk · Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:16 pm

VOTE: Oversoul

ProHawk · Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:25 pm

In post 6288, Young and Beautiful wrote:Do you have any powers that get boosted if you successfully steal a shard?

I kinda-sorta ignored you because I think someone suggested it may be anti-town to relay the info.... Flavor dictates that I get my youth and beauty - gamewise, I was not told specifically, but I do know that pieces make up a fragment. My guess is, for me no. But if scum get them, yes. Why are you curious?

ProHawk · Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:26 pm

In post 6289, zMuffinMan wrote:it is true though since everyone on the Aronis lynch after egg was after the tracker guilty

Kinda looked like your gigantic font, colorful Aronis vote was more vindictive than real, but maybe it was just me. Its really neither here nor there tho.

ProHawk · Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:42 pm

In post 6295, Young and Beautiful wrote:And there was no reason for you to steal notscience's shard, either. What, did you think he was scum?

Uhh, no, if scum was going to kill him to get a shard, it would be in my hands and not theirs. It looks like this whole shard thing is kinda not as important as we are all making it out to be cause its pretty clear that scum isn't killing based on shards.

beastcharizard wrote:Where did we fall on the whole me being scum thing?

Lol, we? It was a me thing and that's just cause I am paranoia central. You are playing a heck of a lot more like a third-party SK than Shos tho.

ProHawk · Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:44 pm

One other thing I have been thinking about, is a double-voter pretty much confirmed town as the mod essentially confirms the role? Are there scum-double-voters?

ProHawk · Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:07 pm

In post 6533, beastcharizard wrote:As scum I would have just wanted that hidden.

lol, how long do you think it would have stayed hidden just because you weren't role-claiming?

ProHawk · Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:44 pm

In post 6545, Birds of Prey wrote:Only scum have said they don't care for it.

You seem to keep implying that I am scum without saying it, all the while ignoring me.

ProHawk · Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:33 pm

In post 6690, Squirrel Girl wrote:
In post 6687, Birds of Prey wrote:The case on me is I am voting the scums and my VCA clears the obvious mislynch targets so they have to lynch me to discredit me.

I do recall rather liking the work you did even if it lacked pretty colors.

I guess I should let them re-state it to me. After all, I have two votes and am confirmed town except to silly peeps, who wouldn't want to court me at this stage?

Please demonstrate your double voting prowess today.

ProHawk · Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:57 pm

In post 6698, Squirrel Girl wrote:@ProHawk - In what manner and for what purpose?

@Mhork - Yeppers!

@Oversoul - Why is Ascetic a confirmed town sorta claim?

Can you still double vote?

ProHawk · Fri Aug 29, 2014 5:26 am

I don't get why people are saying I am town because of my claim. I hate that people aren't actually looking at my play. I STEAL SHARD FOR A LIVING. SCUM ARE KNOWN TO NEED SHARDS.

ProHawk · Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:45 am

Wait, I am the most scum on the Lemni wagon? I pushed it before it was hip. I actually made a pretty accurate case IMO. Walk me through this.

ProHawk · Fri Aug 29, 2014 11:25 am

In post 6760, Birds of Prey wrote:Who do you think was bussing Lemin?

I actually think scum cooked up her claim of masons in their thread, so I think, especially at the beginning they were trying to save her. If scum were on her wagon, it was after it was obvious she was still going to be lynched after a mason claim.

ProHawk · Fri Aug 29, 2014 11:31 am

Which has also been substantiated by who we know to be scum.

ProHawk · Fri Aug 29, 2014 1:08 pm

In post 6766, Titus wrote:ProHawk, if your belief about scum cooking up masons is accurate then BBMolla looks like scum right?

I'd have to look at it again, but I have had my suspicions about BBMolla anyhow. One thing that is bothering me, and this is kinda heavy flavor gaming, is that he claims to be boosted by ONE shard, however, my flavor says that multiple shards make up a fragment, which then make up a jewel and kinda implies stuff happens when a jewel is made, not from a shard alone.

ProHawk · Fri Aug 29, 2014 1:30 pm

BBMolla being scum isn't really alignment indicative of YnB being town or scum really.

I'm not really getting Kagami scum vibes. What link have you made there?

ProHawk · Fri Aug 29, 2014 1:59 pm

In post 6774, BBmolla wrote:If I was scum why wouldn't I lie about recieving the friendly neighbor message

Because said friendly neighbor would then know you are scum.

ProHawk · Fri Aug 29, 2014 2:02 pm

In post 6772, Birds of Prey wrote:A)They vote parked on scum
B)They are pushing Oversoul for vague reasons despite the fact it should be obvious he is town.
C) Kagami's reaction to our vote was to dredge up stuff from Day 2.
D) Their attack on our VCA sucks and it is a clear attempt to stop a townblock.

A) You should see Squirrel Girls' vote parking on scum. She did it twice with her second vote while pushing a different "main" vote.
B) I don't think Oversoul is town.
C) Does Day 2 not count?
D) I didn't like your VCA either, I just haven't had the time to break it down for you. (Mostly the part where you think scum voting Oversoul makes him town).

ProHawk · Fri Aug 29, 2014 2:03 pm

In post 6780, Oversoul wrote:
In post 6778, ProHawk wrote:
In post 6774, BBmolla wrote:If I was scum why wouldn't I lie about recieving the friendly neighbor message

Because said friendly neighbor would then know you are scum.

How exactly? They wouldn't know if they are blocked.

I suppose that's a valid point, but in that case, its a 50/50 scum or block right?

ProHawk · Fri Aug 29, 2014 2:12 pm

In post 6783, Oversoul wrote:YNB literally has no way of knowing if the action is confirmed. If sent to scum, they could just lie and get them lynched. They would do this in any scenario I think.
This probably means BBis grudgingly town.

Do you not logic?

If they die and flip town, that puts BB is a pretty bad light, not in a good one for getting someone mislynched. Like I said, its 50/50 BB would have lied or YNB gets blocked.

ProHawk · Fri Aug 29, 2014 2:34 pm

In post 6763, Squirrel Girl wrote:Yes.
Is your theory that a scum double voter would have lost the power at this stage (or yesterday - wherein I think I didn't have two votes in play)?
Because the only time I've ever seen scum with a loss of DV power is basically *at* lylo. And that was in a non-SK scenario.
So, again, I'm not sure where this is really going.

No, my theory is you are an X-Shot, or X-Day double voter. Your voting patterns have varied drastically since the start of this game. First three days were immediate double votes right out of the gate, never voted one person with both your votes (although you had threatened to). Fourth day you made no vote out of the gate, waited and then made one vote (Majiffy) but threatened the thread with your extra-vote which was never used. Today you have made no vote up to this point but have made well sure everyone knows you have two votes.

What I see is your caution level raised to the roof. Why?

I also see a weakness in your role which may include not having a second vote anymore, or not being able to vote the same person twice. I think the main issue with scum-double-voters is the power it brings because scum is the informed party in the room and their ability to manipulate the lynch based on votes is huge. These weaknesses make you less town in my opinion because it removes the over-poweredness of a double voter. Please prove me wrong.

ProHawk · Fri Aug 29, 2014 2:36 pm

Hey BB! What do you know about fragments and jewels?

ProHawk · Fri Aug 29, 2014 2:44 pm

In post 6787, Oversoul wrote:It wouldn't put BB in a bad light because he wasn't claiming a blocking action that could be accounted for.

I'm not really sure what this means, but what I am saying is that either someone interfered with the action, or BB was lying. I guess I can see that the chances of scum interfering with the action would be greater because their claim was out in the open,

but

there were also other claims (like shos') that they would have been more interested in messing with considering he was gunning for vigging scum in either Abom or Bulba. So then chances that Molla would have been lying increase. Lets not forget he got Xofelf mislynched due to his claims.

ProHawk · Fri Aug 29, 2014 2:46 pm

In post 6786, shos wrote:also except for Egg, nobody seems to be against massclaim, so shall we beginth?

Haven't most of us already done this?

ProHawk · Fri Aug 29, 2014 3:25 pm

Cause my role PM pretty much says shards are powerless.

ProHawk · Fri Aug 29, 2014 3:30 pm

Just realized it

ProHawk · Fri Aug 29, 2014 6:58 pm

In post 6800, The Goat wrote:I will be not part of a BoP lynch.

I want more people to vote ProHawk. Now.

Why?

ProHawk · Sat Aug 30, 2014 5:47 am

The manipulation is strong with this one.

ProHawk · Sat Aug 30, 2014 7:15 am

That's pretty reaching for a slip. A thread is a thread regardless of it being in a QT or onsite, but by all means, scum bring it on. Sorry that you can't hit scum on all your targets Egg. As much as you wish it to be so, my role PM won't magically change.

ProHawk · Sat Aug 30, 2014 7:20 am

If shos is SK, wouldn't he have already picked his target to die last night?

ProHawk · Sat Aug 30, 2014 10:03 am

Shos. People aren't making up their own flavor. Its given to them by Cephrir. If there is any discrepancy, its not because the discrepancy = scum.

ProHawk · Sat Aug 30, 2014 2:01 pm

In post 6801, Squirrel Girl wrote:Why? He seems like town.

I'm trying to sort you, could you not ignore me?

ProHawk · Sun Aug 31, 2014 3:14 am

Egg why the freak are you voting me dude? Why is anyone voting me? No one will answer this question. Don't let them go down without exposing them.

ProHawk · Sun Aug 31, 2014 4:07 am

Squirrel, you have a very odd notion of basically confirmed town. If I get pushed by scum today it's because they have at least one scum in that very category. Keep that in mind when you see my flip.

ProHawk · Sun Aug 31, 2014 4:12 am

Eggs vote doesn't make any sense as town to me.
I am still waiting to see the Goats explanation
Shos just took Eggs "slip" at face value, or it might be an English as second language thing.

ProHawk · Sun Aug 31, 2014 4:30 am

I agree with you on Shos, Egg concerns me a bit more. I will go into it a bit more when I have some time.

ProHawk · Sun Aug 31, 2014 4:47 am

In post 6893, Squirrel Girl wrote:I said nothing about confirmed town - I said confirmed *not Bo7* which is a huge difference, and also is pretty clear.

Okay, lets play semantics. So you don't think they are Bo7 but you also don't think they are basically confirmed town? Which means you still think they could be third-party?

ProHawk · Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:27 pm

In post 2028, Egg wrote:
In post 2013, notscience wrote:Can someone tell me why only like 2 people questioned rhaego early while he posts bullshit questions that he doesn't follow up and naked votes all the time while avoiding what's going on

I personally didn't because someone crumbed something about him

Hey Egg, can you tell me what this crumb was, who crumbed it, and what the crumb was? I am pretty sure I missed it.