InuYasha Mafia (Game Over)

[neil1113]

Would if I could.

Is that... Jesus?

By the way, hello everyone. I won't be voting Shrooms very much this game unless something serious happens. I still have nightmares about my tunnel from a previous game... *shivers*.

I've got a lot to catch up on, but just out of curiosity, is there anything specifically related to this game that I should know about on my journey through this endless amount of text? Like persay a fake claim that's already been exposed so I don't go hopping around for joy when I see a claim I think is fake in my early reads? Or perhaps anything concerning the game mechanic? Have we figured out if Demons and Undead are specifically aligned divisions between town and scum, or are they blended? What about the commonality in the characters, is the evil characters in the show seemingly evil in this game and good characters good, so on and so forth or are there bad characters that are good? My lack of knowledge in the show might be kicking me in the butt here... forgive me.

[neil1113]

@Nero - I don't think it counts as an overreaction when I point out that there is no scumhunting theory behind your question and call it scummy. Yes, I *could* have just given the simple answer. But...that was the point, the answer was so obvious as to make one wonder what the actual issue was - it was obvious either I'd forgotten or I had lied. That is the option. One is alignment neutral, and the other doesn't make sense to have happened. That's why I attacked you for even asking.

There was no overreaction.
There was a negative reaction.
Those are different things.

And if your new stance is that you *weren't* calling me scum for the question...what were you doing? You still haven't addressed that, and I've asked.

I may be the only one who believes SG here, but it makes a lot of sense and is exactly how I read it to be when I read over it, I didn't take it the way Nero perceived it at all. What's ironic is that Nero seems to be guilty here of doing the very thing they accused SG of doing...

In NY172, Mastinscum was scum reading two players, lurked, then came back and called them town or maybe it was the other way around. Obviously you aren't mastin but that looked like a similar type gaffe. Regardless, I think its a natural reaction to WANT to have things that look like contradictions or w/e to be explained. You ARE right, that, even if you are scum that all you could say is "opps I forgot". Its not just about the question but how you REACT to the question and I think your reaction was the angry/argumentative SG and not the SG from Mala's mini.

So this reads, that your making a point based off of what somebody else did in some other game completely irrelevant to anyones playing style here, as to why somebody else who is completely different, in a completely different game, is guilty? I feel like stretching would almost be an under-qualified word to describe that action...

[neil1113]

Did someone ask me to vote?

VOTE: Nero Cain

Better?

P.S. Does anyone actually believe Nero to be town? Or am I good without having to lay out the obvious?

[neil1113]

It is ludicrous how hard it is to get a shos lynch.

This made me laugh.

By the way, why is Nero not hung yet? Does anyone actually believe Nero to be town?

[neil1113]

xof or BoP. Why do you have BoP as a townread?

This is because we are so amazingly beautiful, we townread ourselves. Wow, that's a softball. It still missed.

Oh and playing well with others is a scumtell? Really... now you can just shut up too considering this is the first real content after your votepark.

Scum are getting lynched. I'm leading the charge. Deal with it.

- VFT -

And if they flip town?

[neil1113]

Here is a

curve ball

from my

magic 8ball

,

neil1113

is

scum

Woah you got me! How did you know?

[neil1113]

I told you Young and Beautiful was town. Sigh.

Now everybody, time to vote actual scum. Let's lynch Nero.

[neil1113]

was TSO silenced somehow?

@Majiffy: the same accusations you make on me - you can make on you. just sayyan. you've done nothing all game but say LYNCH SOS OMG clinging to a single post which you misunderstood and calling it a slip. at least I'm not commenting cuz I'm lazy..

You're not actually reading this game are you?

TSO replaced out.

Why is Nero not lynched yet?

[neil1113]

So between Xof, Lem, and Shos?

UNVOTE: Nero
VOTE: Shos

The idea of Shos being scum is much more appealing to me, then Lem flipping scum (though she'd be my second vote... sorry babe!) or Xof (which I don't see the case against, at all.)

[neil1113]

But really. Xofelf claimed JOAT.

Is that a town claim?

- b -

If it was a true claim, yes normally.

By the way, get your vote off of BoP. They may be 100% confirmed scum, but I'm also 100% guarantee-ing that you will not be getting 15 votes before deadline on a "they are totes scum guys, trust me!" Hell you could say you're a day cop, and just investigated, have the mod come on and confirm it, and you still probably couldn't get all the votes needed before deadline.

If you want to go after Nero, I'm all for it. But for some sad reason, people have missed it for the moment. So the next best bet (and most assured lynch to flip scum) is Shos.

So vote Shos. I'm fairly certain, BoP will be lynched tomorrow. Or Nero. Or we'll have 400 wagons again.

[neil1113]

I'm not sure how I feel about the miller claim but its easily confirmable. The thing that gets me, is that Lem told her friends NOT to confirm her, and NOT to give themselves up. Why would she not want to be confirmed? The only reason I could think of, is if she really believes the other options are town power roles and is literally trying to sacrifice herself.

But UNVOTE: if we're going to wagon on someone quickly, the uselessness of Mist would definitely do it.

VOTE: Mist

[neil1113]

There is absolutely no way Shannon is able to come up with a fake claim like that, so I'm more likely and inclined to believe her. She's smart, but she doesn't have THAT type of experience yet.

Where'd everyone else disappear to?

[neil1113]

WOAH

WOAH

WOAH

WOAH

WHAT?!?!?!?

Really? We're pushing a lynch on a claim that is EASILY able to be proven, rather than pushing a lynch on somebody that someone has EVIDENCE in their own flavor that the other person is lying, and is nearly confirmed scum?

Because of deadline?

Yeah no. I'm more in favor of lynching scum, then lynching a testable claim that can be potentially dangerous to scum, all because of deadline. The fact that you're still even pushing up a wagon, knowing that someone is not able to be killed at night and would be a danger to scum, is literally doing scum's job for them. What the hell is wrong with you?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Shos

Mist is just an inactive person that suddenly came alive near deadline. I don't like that, but with a claim like Shos, I feel like Shos would be the better lynch subject. I didn't realize Majiffy had evidence.

(Sorry Majiffy.)

P.S. Molla is basically confirmed scum. Look at that ISO, look at it... tell me I'm wrong.

[neil1113]

Did BOP just soft claim????

Also

VOTE: Nero Cain

I was sort of fooled by Shannon, but after it was all said and done, I knew I was biased. Damnitt. Never again.

[neil1113]

*yawn* your scum team along with shit players like AP couldn't mislynch me yesterday, it won't happen today.

Lol this is great. I can't wait to see your look when you're lynched and flip scum. The only thing I'm trying to figure out is, why are you so scummy? I figured you'd at least try to pretend you're town...

[neil1113]

we can lynch neil scum tomorrow, but tonight we dine on birds (of prey)

Hahahahahahaha. There's no way in hell you can lynch me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're funny though. Most people know I'm town, and for those who don't I'm easily confirm-able. You won't ever pull off a lynch on me. Period.

*yawn* your scum team along with shit players like AP couldn't mislynch me yesterday, it won't happen today.

Lol this is great. I can't wait to see your look when you're lynched and flip scum. The only thing I'm trying to figure out is, why are you so scummy? I figured you'd at least try to pretend you're town...

This is implying they don't know they are scum. That makes 0 sense what so ever.

You're more of an idiot than I thought you were. I'm impressed. This is implying that he's scum and doesn't realize he's seriously going to be lynched, so when he does, his face is going to be priceless. Then when he flips scum, I'm going to gloat. And laugh at his pathetic scum play. Over. And Over. And Over. And Over Again.

SO..... I have one question for you. Are you generally this stupid, or did you make this a special occasion?

[neil1113]

Are you claiming a guilty on me? That would make my year.

I have a guilty on Birds of Prey.

Lynch it with fire!!!!!

[neil1113]

Why the hell would I seriously claim a guilty on someone, and

NOT BE VOTING THEM?

[neil1113]

^ Vote that please.

Neil, why aren't you voting BoP

Because I don't find BoP scummy enough for a vote? Not when someone like Nero is running around here.

[neil1113]

Wha, hunh? I'm here!

I don't know what to do though. Sadly.

[neil1113]

3/28 doesn't seem broken at all.

If it was 6/38, it'd be pretty broken don't you think?

[neil1113]

Unvote: Majiffy
Vote: neil1113

Laugh My Fucking Ass Off.

You're pathetic.

Read The Fucking Game

and you'll realize how wrong you are.

Or perhaps you know it, and you're either scum, or just not interested in actually lynching scum? Either way...

Fuck. You.

[neil1113]

Unvote: Majiffy
Vote: neil1113

Well that response was completely out of nowhere.

Sorry, that was uncalled for and out of character for me. I apologize. I'm not going to bother explaining or trying to make excuses, so I'll leave it at that. Sorry.

[neil1113]

Votecount 2.7

Birds of Prey 5 (Young and Beautiful, BulbaFenix, Majiffy, Nero Cain, Mist7676)

xofelf 3 (ActionDan, Moogle Dance Troupe, BBmolla)
Oversoul 3 (Egg, ProHawk, Lord Mhork)
neil1113 3 (shos, beastcharizard, Svenskt Stal)

Majiffy 2 (Squirrel Girl, Always)
Nero Cain 2 (Squirrel Girl, neil1113)

Svenskt Stal 1 (Venmar)
Moogle Dance Troupe 1 (HighShroomish)
Young and Beautiful 1 (Birds of Prey)
HighShroomish 1 (Abomination)
Mist7676 1 (geists)

Not Voting 4 (everyone else)

14 to lynch. Deadline: August 3, 3 PM EST.

And why the hell am I even a liable lynch? :/

[neil1113]

Sigh.. really? Fucking computer. Hold on.

[neil1113]

Still want a xof lynch. Her commuting is insane, and completely contrary to what town would do in her position. Mhork is pretty suspicious for defending it, too.

Everyone seems to have the same conclusion, Mhork is scummy. Mhork defending XOF is very telling, but I feel like it'd be better to lynch Mhork, and if Mhork flips scum, we have their partner lined up. That's 3/7 possible scum down by Night Three. And IF (and this is a big IF) Shos is who Shos says he is, then we have a vig who can help us find the 4th scum. If not then by Day Four we lynch Shos and BAM! 4/8 scum/SK down.

Can't get much easier than that?

VOTE: Mhork

I feel like it'd be easier to see Mhork hung right now than XOF, considering other's reads...

P.Edit: Tis was me.

[neil1113]

What?

She checked her email and private messages. I thought she logged me back in. When it refreshed, it logged me in. I didn't realize I had to wait for it to bring me to this page again in order for it to register my name.

[neil1113]

Still want a xof lynch. Her commuting is insane, and completely contrary to what town would do in her position. Mhork is pretty suspicious for defending it, too.

Everyone seems to have the same conclusion, Mhork is scummy. Mhork defending XOF is very telling, but I feel like it'd be better to lynch Mhork, and if Mhork flips scum, we have their partner lined up. That's 3/7 possible scum down by Night Three. And IF (and this is a big IF) Shos is who Shos says he is, then we have a vig who can help us find the 4th scum. If not then by Day Four we lynch Shos and BAM! 4/8 scum/SK down.

Can't get much easier than that?

VOTE: Mhork

I feel like it'd be easier to see Mhork hung right now than XOF, considering other's reads...

P.Edit: Tis was me.

Hence why I wrote that in the post edit before I submitted the post.

[neil1113]

BoP has claimed an incarnation of naraku, hakudoshi. If that's true, or even if it's a mod-provided fakeclaim, it suggests that the incarnations are town.

I'm not that knowledgeable about flavor. I'm just going off of actions and what makes sense setup-wise.

Not shos today Bulba. The claim is out there and he won't be able to work around it. It will become clear soon enough.

Okay. Tomorrow though.

Unvote

Vote Birds of Prey

-Bulba

Why pursue this avenue over Mhork? What is your read on Lord Mhork or on Xof?

[neil1113]

Umm... That was really, really weird

Well I'm still going to

VOTE: Neil

Because of that out of nowhere response

vote:neil

he and lemi prob have the same alignment.

I'm confirmed town you idiots. Your vote and case against me cannot go anywhere. But good luck trying.

Also notice this team work. Mhork's OMGUS is terrible also. When Mhork flips scum, Xof and Nero should be the next two looked at. And with the universal read pretty much of everyone who's commented on Nero except one person, Nero is already pretty much confirmed suspicious. In fact honestly, I'd prefer Nero's lynch first, and then Xof after Mhork's lynch.

[neil1113]

Wait how did you get confirmed?

Read through the game. There are several specific people who have stated me as confirmed town for no reason. Well, there is a really damn good reason for it. Besides that, I don't plan on talking any more about this unless we're really stupid enough to not read the game and push a lynch on me (like a couple of those have already pathetically tried.)

How are you confirmed town?

Plus if you and lemni can share a game, I'm VERY hesitant to believe that you can opposing alignments. Who's to stop you from reading each other's PMs?

Shut up scum.

Also, I'm sure you've never heard of it, but there's a thing called "honor" and "respect." We respect the game enough not to cheat. We've already proven ourselves both in different situations where we could have cheated, I'm sure, but we didn't. In fact, the idea never crossed our minds.

And with the universal read pretty much of everyone who's commented on Nero except one person, Nero is already pretty much confirmed suspicious

If you are town then you should stop listening to scum. I don't think any townies have ever suspected me.

LMAO!!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This guy. I can't wait to see him die.

[neil1113]

Well that response was completely out of nowhere.

totally. that was odd. I'll stick with my vote there.

How about you read the rest of the posts after that? Maybe it'll help you actually play Mafia? I'm confirmed town. You're not doing yourself, or the town any favors by being ignorant. Read up, replace out, or shut up. Either way will be helpful and productive right now. I just called the scum team out, Mhork is obviously upset because I'm right, as well as Nero. Why do you think they are trying to push this lynch so hard? Come on Shos, I know you have a brain somewhere up there... use it.

[neil1113]

Bitch don't you talk to me about honor. I'm not the one using other accounts. Fact is that you threw a little fit over one vote and are trying to confirm yourself because 'everyone has claimed town reads on you for no reason.' Bullshit. There's no town motivation for that shit.

PEDIT:
Yes I'm upset because you started scum reading me because I defended xof who...hasn't flipped? Right

This isn't even fair. I can't respond to you in the same way you're talking, because then you cry a bunch of tears and beg the mod to force replace people. We've been through this dance before, and you've already proven to not be half the man that I am, and can't handle what you pathetically try to dish out. This will be the last I say of it. Other than that, you're nothing more than scum filth in this game to me.

As far as anything you said that had actual content in it? Well "I threw a little fit over one vote." Nope, I threw a fit over one wagon. Because one wagon could lead to a mislynch, and since I'm confirmed town already, that'd be pointless to go through.

"Everybody has claimed town reads on me for no reason."

That's not what I said. You're hilariously trying to flip this to make me look out to be the bad guy? Why the hell would it matter to you if Lem was scum and we were cheating? We're not, as we've been proven not to do, but the fact that you're clinging to it so hard makes me wonder if you two weren't on the same team, and now you feel like you're fucked? In fact... yes, that's what I'm going with. It makes no sense why you'd get so offensive so quickly, and fight as hard as you're doing. Hell, it's your meta as scum to do as such.

UNVOTE: Whoever I was voting.
VOTE: Lord Mhork

Nice to know your scum. And with your little pathetic outburst, I've learned your partners too. You and Xof (which you're still trying to ride on her dick for literally no reason with your pathetic distancing attempts), at least. Nero I'm not sure if you're on the same team with, or if you're both on different scum teams. Or if there's one scum team, if the other isn't the SK himself. Especially since you're so quick to talk about Xof, but you don't let Nero's name touch your lips... hmm. Or perhaps that's your attempt at distancing from Nero? Damn I'm wifoming myself to death right now, I need to stop.

Everybody, confirmed Mhork scum here. Let's wagon, and eliminate scum today. Please and thank you!

P.Edit: Shos, it wasn't everyone who has town reads on me at one point. There are select people in this game, certain ones that have me as confirmed town in their reads, when there is absolutely no reason to. Why would that be? I can't give you any more hints at this point than that.

[neil1113]

You know, the /other/ game where you said I had a tiny dick and was scum because I was less of a man than you

Oh Lord. #1. I didn't say you had a tiny dick. It was a reference to something else that apparently everyone else caught EXCEPT you. #2. Nobody said you were scum because you were "less of a man than Neil." Everybody thought you were scum because you were "SCUMMY"... *gasp* omg, is that possible? Mhork? Scummy?

You were mislynched, because you were a terrible player who played as scum, though was actually unfortunately town. (Though the scum was much appreciative of you.) Now you're being lynched, because you ARE scum, who just got caught for the wrong reasons.

Also:

Relevance, your Honor?

[neil1113]

@Neil - Can you give me a name or two as far as the confirmation goes? Because I'm certainly willing to believe that if I read back through this whole game I could find some people calling you town - but I am uncertain why that should affect my vote. I understand you're soft hinting at something, but it's such an ephemeral thing it's not likely to get much traction without you being more explicit. If you're unwilling to be more explicit that is fine, but then I would advocate finding a different defensive angle.

I also forgive you for the cursing, my fragile inner flower feels better

You're on the right path. I don't want to reveal any names... I'm not asking to find someone that said Neil was "town"... but rather, Neil was "confirmed town." Or even, those who made a list, and said it's not in order of confirmed town, and if it was, we'd replace Neil and ??? (will not mention name) with MTD and someone else (forgot who the other person was.)

you two should stfu and be polite *is angry*

...neil, can you link me to some of those 'conftown read' posts? I must've skimmed them?

I can't expound much on it, I'd rather not right now. If you catch it, great. If not, keep looking. Don't pursue a lynch on someone that could potentially already be confirmed town, just because you're too lazy to look.

PEDIT:
Neil used this case to 'prove' I was scum last time we played together. That I was not a man and had a tiny because I couldn't handle his attacks. Which also made me pussy scum.

This is terrible. Nobody made a case on him for not being a man, or whatever his ridiculous inuendo is. Everybody voted him off because he was scummy as hell, and was acting that way the entire game, screaming how he was totally town and anyone who didn't think so was stupid and a terrible Mafia player (which meant, the whole game was filled with terrible mafia players because you'd be hard strucken to find someone who thought he was truly town..)...

And even if he DID get lynched that game, how the hell does it clear him during this game? This is the worst attempt at trying to strawman someone that I have ever seen in my entire life.

[neil1113]

Neil stop being a dumbfuck. What are the differences between my mean girl play and this play?

Second 'everyone' didn't think that. /You/ pushed that because I had thin skin, I had to be scum

Hey cutie, this may sound crazy, but it takes more than one person to lynch someone... *sigh*

Yeah I remember one or two players saying emphatically neil's town.

That was good enough for me on day 1. It's good enough on day 2.

This.

[neil1113]

Ok I will.

You do realize #1 - you're attempting to out a power role(s) by asking to clarify an obviously town role. #2 - you're vote parking on confirmed town. But #3 - you're okay with that because you're too lazy to look and see for yourself that I'm confirmed town???

[neil1113]

SG why is Neil town?

I dunno, why is he?

You're on the right path. I don't want to reveal any names... I'm not asking to find someone that said Neil was "town"... but rather, Neil was "confirmed town." Or even, those who made a list, and said it's not in order of confirmed town, and if it was, we'd replace Neil and ??? (will not mention name) with MTD and someone else (forgot who the other person was.)

I vauegly recall that weirdness with the replace name one - I read that from someone.
This is weak, but I didn't really like Nero's move on you in any case.
Vote Nero with me?

Unvote: Neil
Vote: Oversoul

I'd be more than happy to vote Nero, but it doesn't look like many others are sold unfortunately. What is your take on Mhork, especially the latest page or so of his... uh... "defense?"

[neil1113]

I wonder if Shroom is trying to be lynched, or just terrible at Mafia???

I will say this. I find Mist more scummy with that deflection vote onto me, and then trying to make up the worst case in Mafia history to try and justify their vote??? That's a lot more scummy than not even trying to play this game, and placing a vote on one of the leading wagons. I can't really read someone who isn't even trying to play the game (Shroom)...

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Mist

[neil1113]

For example- look at neil, look at Lemin, look at them together. What do you see?

~P

Ohhhhh I know, I know! Pick meeee!

I see a beautiful married couple, madly in love, and a guy who's super lucky to have such a beautiful wife! I also see a woman who betrayed her husbands trust, and wanted to kill him.... unfortunately. But that's nothing therapy can't get us over!




.... why?

[neil1113]

Goat is so fucking town it hurts, BoP's attack is terrible

Lol, this!!! ^^^^^^^^^

I want Mist or this bird creature to die today. Yep, that's how it's going to be. Plus, the bird people aren't even reading the game. They've missed the obvious hints and someone even clearing me and showing I'm confirmed town... or rather, they just don't care? Either way, they need to die.

Damn I wish I was a vig.

[neil1113]

Goat is so fucking town it hurts, BoP's attack is terrible

Lol, this!!! ^^^^^^^^^

I want Mist or this bird creature to die today. Yep, that's how it's going to be. Plus, the bird people aren't even reading the game. They've missed the obvious hints and someone even clearing me and showing I'm confirmed town... or rather, they just don't care? Either way, they need to die.

Damn I wish I was a vig.

I will admit, despite the friendly nature toward me...

...it made my skin absolutely crawl. Jebus.

Why? I wasn't trying to be creepy or dangerous...

P. Edit: I didn't clear Goat. I'm saying, I can see Goat as town more than you. And your attack is absolutely terrible.

[neil1113]

Ah damnitt... actually I don't want BoP dead. I remember Titus, and this is not Titus' scum game.

Just... terrible.... play. :'(

Why couldn't you draw scum BoP???

[neil1113]

Goat is so fucking town it hurts, BoP's attack is terrible

Lol, this!!! ^^^^^^^^^

I want Mist or this bird creature to die today. Yep, that's how it's going to be. Plus, the bird people aren't even reading the game. They've missed the obvious hints and someone even clearing me and showing I'm confirmed town... or rather, they just don't care? Either way, they need to die.

Damn I wish I was a vig.

Like you just cleared Goat & Molla cleared Goat? Why can't I just eat my bullshitburger and like it.....?

Uh no.

~P

If I read correctly, some others are aware of what he's talking about, and seem to back him

I have no idea what he's on about.

I'm aware of what those others are thinking about Always but Always did not confirm it.

~ T

It absolutely was confirmed as much as soft-claiming can be.

You're pushing for more information to be revealed right now, that initially would only benefit the scum for it to be revealed at this time. Think about what/where you're pushing right now...

And then go push somewhere else.

[neil1113]

Goat is so fucking town it hurts, BoP's attack is terrible

Lol, this!!! ^^^^^^^^^

I want Mist or this bird creature to die today. Yep, that's how it's going to be. Plus, the bird people aren't even reading the game. They've missed the obvious hints and someone even clearing me and showing I'm confirmed town... or rather, they just don't care? Either way, they need to die.

Damn I wish I was a vig.

I will admit, despite the friendly nature toward me...

...it made my skin absolutely crawl. Jebus.

Why? I wasn't trying to be creepy or dangerous...

P. Edit: I didn't clear Goat. I'm saying, I can see Goat as town more than you. And your attack is absolutely terrible.

I was referring to BBMolla's post. Don't exactly know why, but it pinged the Goatdar.

As irritating as what has occurred today has been for me...it makes sense.

If BoP is scum...he's playing it incredibly cool. I won't be voting him today.

Oh absolutely. I agree with those points. I don't find Molla as a post, even though I agree with Molla's conclusion (to a lesser extent I think.) I don't think BoP is scum, at least not with the information that's been available. Although knowing them, I'm sure if they are scum, it'll become apparent soon. For now, because of Titus, I'm reading them as town.

[neil1113]

Goat, your gut isn't compelling. You should vote for HighShroomish, or give a good reason why not.

Curious what your take of my post was?

I wonder if Shroom is trying to be lynched, or just terrible at Mafia???

I will say this. I find Mist more scummy with that deflection vote onto me, and then trying to make up the worst case in Mafia history to try and justify their vote??? That's a lot more scummy than not even trying to play this game, and placing a vote on one of the leading wagons. I can't really read someone who isn't even trying to play the game (Shroom)...

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Mist

[neil1113]

No. The thing is, Always isn't a cop. Nor is she saying confirmed. Always is just really confident and that's confidence we don't share. We are both scumreading Neil now, and we're both voting him.

You're way off. There was no cop claim, nor was anyone thinking a cop claim. I'm not commenting any more on this. Plenty of others have seen it and understood it, I doubt both of you have that rough of a time looking at evidence, and drawing the right conclusions from it.

With that said, either put your vote somewhere useful, or shut up and stop wasting 40 pages of you talking back and forth with others and getting nothing accomplished by doing so. I'm not being today's lynch. Period. Get over it. If you're scum, you're more than welcome to try and kill me tonight. But for today, there are other lynch wagons that will be happening, I am not one of them.

[neil1113]

Neil, your perspective of Mist is determinate on your alignment of which I am not aware. I'm not sure what you are getting at re: Shroomish, but too scummy to be scum isn't a real thing.

It was determined based off of the way they both placed their votes. Mist's vote trying to justify it (albeit, rather crapily) to make them look less scummy, was a hell of a lot more scummy in my opinion than someone who admittedly is not even playing the game, and placed a vote on one of the leading wagons of the moment. I'm not saying Shroom's vote wasn't scummy, just that I believe Mist's vote to be more scummy in nature.

[neil1113]

Actually come to think about it ProHawk, I never once mentioned anything about Shroom being "too scummy to be scum"... I've never once participated in that fallacy here...

[neil1113]

Actually come to think about it ProHawk, I never once mentioned anything about Shroom being "too scummy to be scum"... I've never once participated in that fallacy here...

I wonder if Shroom is trying to be lynched, or just terrible at Mafia???

Maybe you should clarify that above then?

Sure:

"That was a terrible vote/play."

[neil1113]

Meaning he is too scummy to be scum, because you obviously don't think he is scum, but think his play is terrible. Amirite?

If you add words in to what I was saying, like you did, you can draw that conclusion. If you take my words for what was ACTUALLY said, you get:

That was a terrible vote.

Not, that was a scum vote, but it was so scummy, you're obviously town because you can't be scum.

Two very different responses.

[neil1113]

Usually when people say that was terrible, or that was bad, or the like usually implies scum. So if you think it was just terrible-town maybe you should be a little more specific.

Or it was just... terrible?

Terrible play as scum, terrible play as town. Either way, terrible is terrible.

[neil1113]

Then what is the point of saying something is terrible? To be a jerk?

Generally, to get you to move it or explain it or explain it better.

But you also generally ask if it's the last 2.

~P

This.

I'll do a full catchup later but I instantly dislike the shroomish wagon 'cause there's only one town read on it. Neil or BOP seem the best lynches for the day.

This post is ridden with scum-motivation. *facepalm*

Unvote: Oversoul
Vote: Mist

I don't like either the Neil or Shroomish pushes.

Nero Cain remains a good wagon that no one will even talk about with me.

The bolded is important. Nobody is talking about Nero, regardless of the obvious scum that he is. It's okay, give it a couple days, Nero will be lynched. I'm positive.

Mist in my opinion, is the best lynch for today.

[neil1113]

If you outted me as scum why do I have less votes than you?
You're not even voting me. And I'm "outted" scum. I guess I'm less outted than BoP, but...

yeah, # of votes=/=alignment.

Lol!!!!!

[neil1113]

I don't like either the mist or Shroomish wagons :/

Remember this when one of them flip.

Also, Mhork, why don't you like either one of them? Do you have town reads on their slots?

[neil1113]

So.

Ever get this feeling you have a townread who's actually scum. I'm feeling that right now with Geists for some reason. Don't know why, but just am.

Sven that Venmar vote is bad and you should feel bad.

Also as much as Y&B is confirm able in terms of the role.. Part of me wants them dead.

I get that feeling sometimes.

He's got the feels. :O

Sven, that vote is terrible. Don't do that.

Everyone who's not voting Mist: Why? Why is Shroomish a better vote than Mist?

There needs to start being responsibility for votes. Shroomish over Mist is a bad decision. And there needs to be responsibility for that.

[neil1113]

Everyone who's not voting Mist: Why? Why is Shroomish a better vote than Mist?

There needs to start being responsibility for votes. Shroomish over Mist is a bad decision. And there needs to be responsibility for that.

This.

[neil1113]

Nero, I don't care who you kill. But you really should reconsider killing myself, or Always. We can both confirm each other are town, for good reason. We've both soft-claimed why. If you kill me or Always, I can assure you, you're playing against a town win-condition. Others have seen it, you and I think one or two other people are the only ones who seem to miss it. Besides Mist who's wanting to role fish. Nero if you're so suspect of me, how come I'm not lynched? How come others aren't pushing for my death as adamately as you think I'm scum? If it ever came down to it, I'm easily confirm-able. Others have seen it, that's why I won't be lynched. Period. There's literally no reason to shoot me, except for selfish gain.

In that same sense, I really don't think you SHOULD mention who you're going to kill. Or even if you're going to kill. Otherwise... shenanigans.

[neil1113]

so if my kill tonight does not go through I'll go shouting TARGET IS NARAKU.

scum have a roleblocker, and there are many kinds of kill-prevention things this game.

...all this may be wrong, though

By no means am I trying to tell you how to go about your role... but I will say, it might have been better if you kept what you received a little to yourself until later on in the day when we were closing in on the lynch.

But now that you've shown your cards, I imagine your best play would be to tell us who you're targeting right when someone gets lynched. That way we have an idea if your kill doesn't go through, and you get targeted for whatever reason and you're not protected, that we might be able to figure out who Naraku is.

With that said:

Nero, what's up? What'd you do last night? What happened?

Curious...

[neil1113]

Wow just caught scum red handed.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Nero Cain

He's not a vig, he didn't get blocked, he doesn't have a shot... he's a liar. A lying scum that now officially needs to die.

[neil1113]

BoP... lynch all liars philosophy. It doesn't help town at all, especially this early on in the game. It'd be different halfway through the game. Or with less people.

[neil1113]

Must be my color blindness and dyslexia

Nero. Why didn't you use your vig?

He's not a vig, he's a liar. And he tried to role fish, albeit terribly, and seemed like he was attempting to out other power roles with his fake claim.

He needs to be lynched. Prompto.

[neil1113]

It seems like my vote is best served here.

VOTE: Highshroomish

Even though I highly suspect it to be wrong, it doesn't seem like the majority is really interested in lynching scum.

*Sigh*

[neil1113]

I know exactly what NS is doing. It matches my role. It's a great idea too.

Shos, you should

NOT

vig NS.

Also, we should not lynch NS.

[neil1113]

I know exactly what NS is doing. It matches my role. It's a great idea too.

Shos, you should

NOT

vig NS.

Also, we should not lynch NS.

I'm debating outing this because town needs to know about it but at the same time some people might misuse it

While I agree outing this might be a good idea, I don't think this early it would be most profitable. I can see it easily being misused (or taken advantage of come night time)...

[neil1113]

I don't actually have shards, but from what I know, and from my role PM, I can support that they are in the game. And I knew NS was doing that, I'm not sure why ActionDan felt the need to state outright (including all the people who probably aren't reading this game, probably wouldn't have even noticed) that NS had one, it kinda blows my mind. I disagree like I said before that now was the time to come out and say that, I was trying to protect NS' shard for the time being. Unfortunately once it's outed, we can't do much...

[neil1113]

I don't actually have shards, but from what I know, and from my role PM, I can support that they are in the game. And I knew NS was doing that, I'm not sure why ActionDan felt the need to state outright (including all the people who probably aren't reading this game, probably wouldn't have even noticed) that NS had one, it kinda blows my mind. I disagree like I said before that now was the time to come out and say that, I was trying to protect NS' shard for the time being. Unfortunately once it's outed, we can't do much...

My whole purpose was not to say I have a shard like NS, but that I knew where NS was coming from, and because of that we should NOT string him up. That simple.

[neil1113]

She's not alone in her QT, and

lemon revealed that they have daychat.

It's very likely she didn't come up with this claim, and she's not accustomed to playing along with convoluted lies and fakeclaims, hence why she's botched this up so much.

This is terrible logic. Lem also declared there was two scum teams. She was obviously trying to deceive us. I wouldn't take what she said with anything more than a grain of salt.

Nero I know that you're lying

everyone one knows that I'm not a vig 'cause I said I wasn't.

This is crap. Terrible, terrible crap.

But I see how Nero could be classified as terrible town.

[neil1113]

Goddamnit I'm pissed of 'cause I wasted my one watcher shot on you, Neil, 'cause I figured you as a vig would probably get shot. But no one targeted you so it's just been wasted

UNVOTE: Neil

Wha...?

Someone please vig neil.
Someone else please use an inv against shos.

LOL!!!!!! If someone vigged me, they'd be a terrible vig. Like it or not, I'm town and there's not a damn thing you can do about it.

Someone please vig neil.

I agree that Neil is useless and needs to go however, he claimed to have a shard so why vig him instead of lynching him to get molla the shard?

Wha...? I never claimed to have a shard. You, Peanut Butter, and Mhork are ridiculous, I never claimed to be a vig, and I never claimed to have a shard, and you don't lynch / vig confirmed town.

Idiots.

I know Mafia can be a difficult game at times but damn! I didn't realize you could be this... ignorant.

[neil1113]

I never claimed to have a shard.

TBF, I thought your post about having the same role as NS was a shard claim and I guess I sorta missed your claims that you didn't have a shard afterall.

You might be town but you are a stick in the mud and you're doing very little to help your supposed town wincon.

I'm most definitely not "stuck in any mud." You're simply confused, or not reading. Either way, I'm easily one of the farthest ones away from the mud in this entire game. Pretty much nobody in this game is as confirmed as I am. Simply put.

Unless...

You really believe I'm "stuck in the mud" in which case, please, be my guest... lead my lynch.

Bahahahahaha it'll never happen!

Now get over it, realize I won this, place your accusations, suspicions, and ponderings somewhere more productive (which is literally almost anywhere EXCEPT here), and move on.

[neil1113]

According to Google, that's Kyou. Why would you want to lynch her? >:(

[neil1113]

Holy shit shos, what the fuck are you even doing? Why are you flailing so hard?

Also Kagami, what happens is I transform into someone for the night and the next day they are required to post a 100 character or less message I've prepared for them within their first 5 posts of the next day. They can't change what I've said or add to it. They're allowed to talk about it, and I can't make them vote.

I can actually see this as a scum ability. You can easily frame someone by making them say something confessing to be scum or something and pretending to have enough of this.

However, I think it's more likely a town ability.

[neil1113]

Xofelf, you used the word flailing...

And how does the quote in 5209 make sense as a town ability.

It can be used like an IC.

[neil1113]

By having someone confirm they got a message from them and telling everyone they are town... actually I forgot it is a message they create themselves...

[neil1113]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Xofelf

[neil1113]

Really? VOTE: Shos

[neil1113]

Nero, I feel like I don't even want to entertain your pathetic pushes again.

I'm not being lynched, ever, period. Sorry. You're more than welcome to try though, it's cute.

Also, Nero is so far from town leader, saying statements like "if X happens, you will be lynched" is ridiculous and a hilarious statement in and of itself. In fact, I'm more than willing to push anyone that Nero tries to incriminate others with, just so see Nero's reaction when he realizes how absolutely pathetic and powerless he is the next day, when he yet again pushes another "lynch" through that nobody even fucking listens to.

Ah... I'm reminiscing. Sorry.




P.S. Mala is confirmed town you dumbasses. Mala cannot flip scum.

[neil1113]

I guess you should claim your other results too

My role isn't as simple as just "tracker".

Bah, don't even entertain blatant anti-town role-fishing.

[neil1113]

I guess you should claim your other results too

My role isn't as simple as just "tracker".

Bah, don't even entertain blatant anti-town role-fishing.

thats not even rolefishing you turd.

I'd like to hear how you and Mala were confirmed to you.

Soon enough princess, once Mala flips.

[neil1113]

Myself and PA are conf. town, our flavor makes no sense with either of us being scum. Period.

Oh and hi guys.

Nero Cain was killed.

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3

And of course:

VOTE: Lord Mhork

Someone claims a character from the Bo7, and you leave him alive??? Are you that terrible? :O

[neil1113]

Neil, does your role PM confirm that your neighbors are the flavors that they claim?

what flavour

They're presumably the wolf pack.

Indeed.

[neil1113]

Who replaced MDT?

[neil1113]

I'm MDT, it was a hydra with kaze, but he had to take a leave of absence from the site.

... but I like you. :/ I'll choose to ignore this for now.

[neil1113]

PEDIT:
Is Neil even still in this game? Last I remember, he insulted me, called himself confirmed town, and then vanished.

Then you have a terrible memory. I'm here, reading through again.

[neil1113]

So pretty much nobody here thinks BBMolla is town, yet we're leading wagons on people that the town is split on?

VOTE: BBMolla

I do feel like this is the best place to be. BoP is town to me. I will not be participating in their wagon.

[neil1113]

Could SG be a vote manipulator instead of a double voter?

How does eliminating BB Molla incriminate YandB? If Molla flips scum, then we know Molla is scum. You still have WIFOM around YnB. YnB could have picked scum, as town unknowingly. But if YnB gets lynched, and flips scum and nothing to do with a friendly neighborizer, then we know Molla lied and should be lynched the next day...

I don't see the benefit of a Molla lynch right now over YnB if you are insisting on going that route.

[neil1113]

After p301:
Goat, just edit it in. It really isnt hard if it bugs you so much.

Bbmolla is not comftown but if he is scum it will solveitself when SK targets YnB

Why are you assuming the SK would target YnB? Did I miss something?

Kagami, you pushed that clearing town is SK hunting, instead of scum hunting or scum misrepresentation, how could you make that assessment? Do you feel like 3rd parties try to clear town more than town or scum do?

Oversoul is almost too easy of a target, it makes me nervous.

Birds: How come you're so adamant against BBMolla? What would his flip help? You seem to assume Molla's flip would help our read of YnB but I beg to differ. If Molla flips town, yes it confirms YnB as town. But if Molla flips scum, we have WIFOM. It does not confirm YnB as scum in any capacity, though it does hinder the confirmed town status she's currently wearing. However if we lynched YnB we'd have the same issue. If YnB flipped scum with no relation to friendly neighbor, then we have a second confirmed scum in Molla. If YnB flips town and is a neighbor, we have WIFOM with Molla. It isn't relevant to Molla's alignment if YnB flipped town.

The difference? Lynching Molla at best, could clear town. Lynching YnB at best, could expose scum. Why would you pursue Molla over YnB?

Also.... I'm sticking to my guns. BoP is not SK, or scum. Their play is not consistent with anything other than a town mindset. ESPECIALLY not an SK mindset.

[neil1113]

Because it is either killing a conftown or killing scumX2 so it is prpbably the best kill

If BoP is either conftown or scum.... doesn't the suspicion of scum invalidate the conftown status?

[neil1113]

YnB, not BoP.

YnB will never be lynched becausemolla vouches for them. So it is effectivly conftown OR two scums. Ahooting Molla may result in proofing the conftown status of YnB. Shooting YnB removes any cpnftown town might have, and if it is scum, then SK earns even better - 2 scum die..

Why do you seem more worried about protecting us from the SK than from scum? Yes, conftown would die if YnB does flip town, but if not... 2 scum are confirmed and will be dead following it. Yet you're more worried about it benefiting the SK than town? What type of town mindset is that?

In fact, I didn't even think of the SK when positioning this idea and throwing it out there... do you have the SK on the mind?

[neil1113]

I definitely agree with your suspicion on YnB. Which is why I've been pressing the YnB vs. Molla idea, I'd like a YnB lynch currently. The idea that we could get two scum for the price of one (so to speak) is thrilling. Though it would be at the cost of a town. I don't know if we can really honestly say YnB is conftown until Molla flips, because there aren't many people who would read Molla as town for sure. So it'll be that constant wonder anyways. By the time we get to a place where YnB can be considered conftown, she'll probably be dead by scum anyway. While I like the idea of forcing scum to get rid of conftown, I like the idea of lynching two scum possibly better.

[neil1113]

Jesus fucking Christ

I wish people would actually read what Neil writes instead of going, "lol neighbours must be town"

I've ignored you a couple times because, well frankly, your posts are as worthless as your opinion. But I'm curious, what exactly it is that makes you so furious when I post? Specifically my last post, if you have a problem with it, talk to me. I'm here. Don't just try and invalidate it with useless strawmanning. Filler texts do nobody no good.

[neil1113]

I definitely agree with your suspicion on YnB. Which is why I've been pressing the YnB vs. Molla idea, I'd like a YnB lynch currently. The idea that we could get two scum for the price of one (so to speak) is thrilling. Though it would be at the cost of a town. I don't know if we can really honestly say YnB is conftown until Molla flips, because there aren't many people who would read Molla as town for sure. So it'll be that constant wonder anyways. By the time we get to a place where YnB can be considered conftown, she'll probably be dead by scum anyway. While I like the idea of forcing scum to get rid of conftown, I like the idea of lynching two scum possibly better.

The possibility of lynching two scums = 0%

The cost: one townie = 100%

Seems like bad odds to me. Why don't you go to your local lottery shop or raffle and try your luck there? It's the idea of earning a million bucks for the price of 5 bucks.

So you mean to tell me it's impossible for scum to try and fake claim something and have another one of their scummates confirm it? It's a 0% possibility?

You mean like Lem tried to do? And it appears scum left her hanging for whatever reason? You mean where she got the idea from another scummate, considering she doesn't have the knowledge to come up with that herself?

You mean like what has already happened and almost got caught doing so?

You mean like that?

[neil1113]

It's a 0% possibility because I know the answer. From your point of view, let's say 10%.

The possibility of lynching two scums = 10%

The cost: one townie: 90%


Those are very generous odds. I'm sure your bank interest rate doesn't even come close to that amount.

Unfortunately, it still seems like a bad deal.

I'd like to know how you're figuring your odds and percentages? Since you want to use them, you must have an accurate formula?

Jesus fucking Christ

I wish people would actually read what Neil writes instead of going, "lol neighbours must be town"

I've ignored you a couple times because, well frankly, your posts are as worthless as your opinion. But I'm curious, what exactly it is that makes you so furious when I post? Specifically my last post, if you have a problem with it, talk to me. I'm here. Don't just try and invalidate it with useless strawmanning. Filler texts do nobody no good.

Because you're incredibly obviously scum

Oh okay. Well, most of the town here would agree with you. But good luck with that.

[neil1113]

It's a 0% possibility because I know the answer. From your point of view, let's say 10%.

The possibility of lynching two scums = 10%

The cost: one townie: 90%


Those are very generous odds. I'm sure your bank interest rate doesn't even come close to that amount.

Unfortunately, it still seems like a bad deal.

I'd like to know how you're figuring your odds and percentages? Since you want to use them, you must have an accurate formula?

I made those up. I'm trying to prove a point, silly.

So you actually have no ground or stance to take that could disprove why my theory about lynching you is bad? Only "lol im town, this is bad. im going to make up some percentages and stuff to make you think your idea is bad" yet you couldn't actually provide anything to show your point?

You're attempt at muddying the waters of a pretty good idea (if I do say so my biased self), is noted. Then again, I can't blame you for it. I wouldn't necessarily want to support an idea that wound up lynching me. ESPECIALLY if I was scum.

P.Edit: Yes but if we lynch BB and he flips scum, that doesn't MAKE YnB "probably scum"... in fact, it doesn't support it either. It's only WIFOM. And it could lead to a mislynch, should YnB be town. We have more to gain by lynching YnB than we do Molla at first.

[neil1113]

If oversoul flips scum, btw, I'm forcing a Neil lynch through tomorrow or making the game unbearable til it happens

And then you'll die accordingly. You'll be lynched far before I ever am.

[neil1113]

As much as I disdain YnB, the risk averse option is the better play. If we haven't solved the game, the goal is to shut off mislynches.

If we were certain only two scum remained and we had this many alive, I might want to proceed in the other order.

I am pretty solidly townreading you Neil and even I am a little paranoid of BB scum YnB town Neil scum with these exchanges. If I was choosing between zmuffin and you, I would pick zmuffin despite you voting Molla. The evidence for zmuffin toen is greater.

On the contrare, me and PA are confirmed town, we don't need to be townread lol. The flavor in our role PM's and the evidence behind our characters prove it. There's literally no way we can be scum, none. (Especially seeing the revealed deaths, proves the theory to be fact.)

We are the ONLY real confirmed town. If you guys really want to just give in, I'm okay with that, and I won't push YnB any longer. If the risk is higher than the reward in our opinion, then we shouldn't go down that route.

I'm perfectly fine with Molla being lynched, as I'm not reading him town anyway.

P.Edit: Shos do me a favor, get off of BoP. What's your opinion on Molla, and why? Oversoul, is too easy to me. I find apathy more town-aligned emotion than scum or SK-aligned.

[neil1113]

Y and B, you think you have more exp. with Titus than me, or Mala?

Now neal, why would I do that? (You a favor to unvote bop)

Neil. * And because that's what town do? They work together with other town to find and eliminate scum. Or, are you really the SK? Which makes sense why you'd question working together with town...

[neil1113]

Y and B, you think you have more exp. with Titus than me, or Mala?

Now neal, why would I do that? (You a favor to unvote bop)

Neil. * And because that's what town do? They work together with other town to find and eliminate scum. Or, are you really the SK? Which makes sense why you'd question working together with town...

Yes.


And mala is dead. She was a good person.

Okay, seeing as I don't know who you are, I can't argue that point. But me and Mala both have a lot of exp with Titus, and a lot of different experiences combined, and we both read her strongly as town. You claim to have had a lot of experience and have a different result conclusion, so don't blame me for doubting this meta read of yours.

[neil1113]

You know what's bad? I can't say 'okay, let's call it a day, let's just get a cop to check BoP and look at someone else', because LolAscetic.

What a cop-out.

Terrible. Annoying.

Bahahahaha I see what you did there.

Y and B, you think you have more exp. with Titus than me, or Mala?

Now neal, why would I do that? (You a favor to unvote bop)

Neil. * And because that's what town do? They work together with other town to find and eliminate scum. Or, are you really the SK? Which makes sense why you'd question working together with town...

Yes.


And mala is dead. She was a good person.

Okay, seeing as I don't know who you are, I can't argue that point. But me and Mala both have a lot of exp with Titus, and a lot of different experiences combined, and we both read her strongly as town. You claim to have had a lot of experience and have a different result conclusion, so don't blame me for doubting this meta read of yours.

Mala is dead. Are you talking with the dead?

Birds of Prey was pretty much a non presence while mala was alive; except for Day 1 where Mala herself was a non presence. I don't see how she could possibly get any legitimate read on BoP.

Even then, reads change throughout the game. So that's invalid.

No but Mala WAS in our thread outside of this game... before she died.

And really? Funny before Mala died, everyone was crying (including you) about how BoP was scum. So I'd say it's pretty valid.

[neil1113]

I love Titus like I love Y. However, I have no feelings for you.

- b -

What... about... me?

[neil1113]

AD, Lord Mhork, Majiffy, BBmolla, zMuffinMan

That is my lynch list.
AD is playing to his scum meta currently. Mhork claimed Bo7, Majiffy I think has prior knowledge that Shos might be the SK because he is scum. Regardless, I think one of the puppets is scum, Majiffy has been the most useless. Although, where is notscience? Haven't seen him in like a week and a half. Replace him. BBmolla because his claim is weird and his whole push against Xo did not really seem genuine. Reminds me of Majiffy just trying to get Shos lynched. zMuffinMan because I don't really think he is trying this game. Maybe that is how he is good at scum. :shrug:

VOTE: BoP

I think you're town, Titus + Pere but no one is moving at all. I think the stagnation of the votes was purposeful but I can't be arsed to go and read all of it given the large amount of noise in this game.

I am sorry it has to be like this.

:O :O :O :O :O !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are. You. Kidding. Me!?