InuYasha Mafia (Game Over)

[Majiffy]

My role PM distinctly says you count as a demon so I'm inclined to agree Nero.

[Moogle Dance Troupe]

Because I think it's Bo7 vs naraku vs everyone else.

Also, there aren't really bad humans in inuyasha that aren't undead. (there's tsubaki, but that's about all I can think of).

[BulbaFenix]

@bulba - that is not necessarily a bad mod, ya know. take an example from my game LotR - good chars were good, bad were bad. as long as there are enough roles for fakeclaims - it just forces scum to think. which is better, I like that as a mod and as scum

Then your theme games are broken. Experience tells me that Ceph's games will not be.

so anyways...the reason why I suggested doing a limited mass claim is 'cause well my role pm says "you count as a human". I think its sort of silly to tell me that I'm a human and then tell me that I count as a human, its kinda like duh. So it makes me think there's some purpose its there, like this game has maybe specific race counts or something...idk. Or it could just mean nothing and I'm reading in to much. Discuss.

I'm thinking a team of undead and a team of demons if multiball or a mix if single. There would likely be an investigative role for each type and undead and demons spread throughout the town to give false positives.

-Bulba

[ActionDan]

unvote

That actually makes perfect sense. Can you tell us why you thought two scum teams though or will that tell us too much about your role?

I am 100% positive poison is a anti-town Kill. there you go. I thought maybe it was due to Naraku's Miasma at first but then research showed that one of the band of 7 specializes in poison.

[Egg]

Yeah mine says I count as my race. Actually didn't notice that on Day 1.

[ActionDan]

Vote Moogle Dance Troupe
for now.

[BulbaFenix]

I take it you think MDT is town AD. Why?

-Bulba

[Nero Cain]

Yeah mine says I count as my race

interesting....

[shos]

My role PM distinctly says you count as a demon so I'm inclined to agree Nero.

I disagree. there are mechanics which relate to race - like my selfwatch - so it is necessary to tell the person what they count as. for example, I am half-demon, so I have to be told what I count as(demon). this is just the way the role PM is built, you guys are digging into it too much.

@bulba - that is not necessarily a bad mod, ya know. take an example from my game LotR - good chars were good, bad were bad. as long as there are enough roles for fakeclaims - it just forces scum to think. which is better, I like that as a mod and as scum

Then your theme games are broken. Experience tells me that Ceph's games will not be.

I urge you to go see my game. scum were given safe nameclaims.

if a massclaim went down D1, it would be the Frodo, sam, pippin, merry, bilbo, legolas, boromir aragorn, gimli, elrond, galadriel, treebeard, smeagol. this is not broken in any way at all. you're welcome to try and guess which of these 13 is a scum fakeclaim.

[BulbaFenix]

I know which one of those were fake claims. I was in the game. It was one of the worst games I've ever played. Mastin was in the game as well. Oh, and btw, I talked endlessly about flavor gaming using FE:A as an example, which is funny, since you claimed in this game that you had never heard of FE:A before, when I had explicitly brought up the FE:A fakeclaim example multiple times both in the LotR game thread and Dead QT.

-Bulba

[Nero Cain]

if a massclaim went down D1, it would be the Frodo, sam, pippin, merry, bilbo, legolas, boromir aragorn, gimli, elrond, galadriel, treebeard, smeagol. this is not broken in any way at all. you're welcome to try and guess which of these 13 is a scum fakeclaim.

Aren't those all pretty mainish characters except for maybe like the last 4? Who were the fake claims?

[geists]

I take it you think MDT is town AD. Why?

-Bulba

Why do you think they're scum?

[ActionDan]

I take it you think MDT is town AD. Why?

-Bulba

Specific role information about Naraku that doesn't seem like bullshit
claim to be a miller to trackers and watchers that doesn't seem like bullshit
interactions with flipped scum that doesn't strike me as sharing the same alignment
generally seems town anyway from posts.

[ProHawk]

I think Gimli and Legolas were fake-claims IIRC

[BulbaFenix]

I take it you think MDT is town AD. Why?

-Bulba

Why do you think they're scum?

Paranoia reasons + #1120. It looks like inside information in the same vein as Lemni. They were also one of the ones pushing hard the idea of a 4 person masonry. I don't find the two coincidental.

-Bulba

[Nero Cain]

Can you guys not speculate on who the fakeclaims are, let Shos answer in his next post.

[geists]

Majiffy

[Egg]

Yeah mine says I count as my race

interesting....

Why? A few others have said the same

[BulbaFenix]

Nero, the fakeclaims were Legolas, Gimli, and Galadriel. There were also some other fakeclaims that didn't make sense with the rest of the game design, like Tom Bombadil and Sauron. The three we chose were the only possible ones to choose.

-Bulba

[shos]

See bulba. you guys lost as scum just because you got extremely unlucky - you got vigged and your mates played poorly in mylo, getting lynched one after the other. not by claims. after D1 I was *sure* you guys are going to win.
see:

if a massclaim went down D1, it would be the Frodo, sam, pippin, merry, bilbo, legolas, boromir aragorn, gimli, elrond, galadriel, treebeard, smeagol. this is not broken in any way at all. you're welcome to try and guess which of these 13 is a scum fakeclaim.

Aren't those all pretty mainish characters except for maybe like the last 4? Who were the fake claims?

noooope. that's the point; the claims are not a contributing factor. scum were given the fakeclaims: Galadriel, gimli, legolas. town lost their BP and friendly neighbour before I made a first VC, then lynched their bodyguard. scum goon was vigged, scum vanillaizer didn't even try using his power at all, scum rolecop claimed galadriel - perfect. how they managed to lose, meh. bulba played very very well that game, I can understand his disappointment.

[BulbaFenix]

Tbh, I want to forget that game ever existed. Can we move on?

-Bulba

[shos]

sure.

point is when there are many characters - like in inuyasha or lotr - flavor cannot break the game

[BulbaFenix]

Then why are you trying? If flavor cannot break the game, then it's doubtful that the game is as easy as all scum are undead. I'm actually thinking we have a mix and some unclaimed town undead.

-Bulba

[Nero Cain]

Yeah mine says I count as my race

interesting....

Why? A few others have said the same

Who? I must have missed this

Nero, the fakeclaims were Legolas, Gimli, and Galadriel. There were also some other fakeclaims that didn't make sense with the rest of the game design, like Tom Bombadil and Sauron. The three we chose were the only possible ones to choose.

-Bulba

this makes me think Shos is scum again. Those are some p important characters so like shos' "a main character can't be a fake claim" is p silly.

[shos]

nero. I think inuyasha is a titbit more main than these, lol.

bulba. because there

are

some powers in the game that relate to the race. it makes flavor cop an alignment cop, and for example, I can know if I was targetted by town or scum or both at night. do I need to explain further? it's almost 3 am :-\