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[The Central Scrutinizer]

i still vote for panzer, but this time its cause he sucks as charades and cant act out the phrase "vow of silence"

Ouch. Buuurn. For amusing me to this extent, I'm going to follow your vote all day.

vote: panzerjager

[The Central Scrutinizer]

unvote, vote: Sage

[The Central Scrutinizer]

unvote, vote: the central srutinizer

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Wow, I misspelled my own name. If that's not scummy, I don't know what is.

unvote, vote: The Central Scrutinizer

By the way, I'm not going to follow your vote anymore after this one. Meanie.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

damnit. it was fun while it lasted.

Unvote

i never thought of it but u can vote for yourself can't you?

Yes. It's often a desperate scum ploy, as if to say, "Oh! Look! I'll dramatically sacrifice myself for the good of the town!"

Sometimes it's also the play of a frustrated townie who is under a lot of pressure he/she feels he doesn't deserve.

Sometimes it's a scum faking the above.

Sometimes it's chaotic_diablo.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

My bad. I'm all for a panzer-lynch.

unvote, vote: Panzerjager

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Unvote, Vote: TCS

Not liking how you put Panzer one from lynch when there isn't even a reason behind the bandwagon.

Asking for reasons is a scumtell.

FOS: bird1111

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Unvote, Vote:TCS

for being the most incredibly scummy player I've ever seen and i agree that john's posting is ridiculous and the OMGUS vote was also stupid.

Uh-huh. Ridiculously scummy. Talk louder please, I don't think you're believable enough.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I was applying pressure to Panzerjager.

His reaction by no means makes me want to remove my vote from him.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I'm not too sure whether TCS stands in my LOS at the moment, since he's pretty much inscrutable most of the time.

I still haven't figured out if this is a good or bad thing.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

After reading through once, I'm finding John to be seriously spammy, but I'm not quite sure if I think he's mafia or just naturally spammy. I think that so far, Panzerjager is the player I least like, I'm finding him overaggressive, so I'm going to

vote:Panzerjager

.

I'm getting a good feeling about TCS, but I don't quite know why. Call it a hunch, I guess.

Good feeling as in TCS=town or TCS=scum?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I'm getting a good feeling about TCS, but I don't quite know why. Call it a hunch, I guess.

Good feeling as in TCS=town or TCS=scum?

Town... I think...

No, I'm just curious how one gets such a good feeling for me as town when Panzerjager is 120% sure I'm scum. Oh wait, I voted for

him

.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Can we just lynch panzer? Or maybe talk about why we should lynch panzer? LB's going to mass-modkill if we don't start doing shit.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Yep. This game is moving at a slow pace, john is at -1 to lynch, and I honestly don't see a good reason to let this game drag.

I think spectrumvoid is scummy. But that doesn't mean it's not proper for john to claim at this point.

John's not at -1. Oops?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Responding to prod, I'm still on board for a panzerscum lynch.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

vote:panzerjager

I see no reason not to change my tune.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Your tune yesterday was following John's votes around. You didn't have a tune of your own. SO what tune aren't you changing?

If you read past page 3, I stopped following John. My vote was on panzer solely for his reaction to the wagon, and his subsequent disappearance is just what I'd expect of panzerscum.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I know: You followed John around until it put Panzer at -1, and then when John unvoted and moved around to other votes, you stayed on Panzer. This seems pretty innocuous to me and therefore suspicious. You can claim to be folliowgn john onto panzer but have no reason to explain why you stayed on him, becayuse the reason you vote him was because John voted him. I said this on my posts leading up to deadline,a dn instead of addressing them, you said you were just going to follow your tune.
My experience with you is mostly limited to Love Boat mafia where tyou were scum and proxed your vote to me, so proxying your vote (in a different format) to John day one seems awfully awfyuly scummy to me. : ) Surely you understand. Please explain ywhy uou did what you did yesterday.

I just did, and I've done it twice now. I followed john during randomvoting nonsense, didn't like Ppnzer's reaction to being at -1,

really

didn't like what panzer did when the pressure was off him, and so my vote stays where it's at.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Well, first he OMGUS voted me in the same post that he accused John of OMGUS voting, then said he didn't need to explain himself, then went on to explain himself, then took his vote off of me because the town needed to "get serious." Then he kind of laid low for the rest of the day and said that he didn't care about Day 1 because it was stupid and he wanted to live in order to get to the real action, thus abdicating himself of responsibility for anything that occurred Day 1. It looks to me like early-game scum fishing for an acceptable strategy.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

EBYOP since I hit submit instead of preview (wanted to check whether I voted correctly.)

TCS: Why did you not present your case against panzer in its full detail yesterday? (I'm not saying I buy the case yet till I've done a read.)

TBH, because I missed a large portion of the game from, April 27-May 5. I was shocked to come back and see the no-lynch. I would have laid down the hammer just to get a lynch if I had been here.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

He actually talked to me about that in class. That only two people were going to die last night. Ripley or SV.

Modkill plz kthx

[The Central Scrutinizer]

TCS, only reason you want a modkill is that you scum. If i get modkilled, john should also get modkilled.

I <--- 0% scum

panzerjager/john <--- 50% scum

I'll take 2 modkills for discussing outside of thread.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

EBWOP: Should read "at least 50% scum"

What part of your argument for my scumminess is anything but OMGUS?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I'm not certain panzer is scum anymore. I still think his activity is scummy and he merits consideration, but it would be kind of unfair for LB to only modkill the town player were there town and scum involved. At least, I hope.

Acting on the assumption that panzer and I are both town, then it's possible the scum are just allowing us to go at each other without pursuing other possibilities.

On that vein, I think that if panzer isn't scum, I'm looking primarily at Simenon, IH, and Skruffs.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Well, knowing that SV is scum, and SV was voting Mustafa yeseterday, and Mustafa isn't scum... in conclusion, if SV is voting TCS, TCS must not be scum.
Hmm. *puzzle*
And I was sure he was, too.
IH, are you scum?

How sure are you that SV is scum?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Soo... SV/Simenon?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

If you didn't get it, I've got a strong gut feeling on Simenon... mainly cause I think he took a very ambivalent position towards panzer-TCS.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Skruffs: Let's look at your logic here.

You have only played with me when I'm scum. So just because I play the same way this game, I'm scum too? Has it occured to you that I play this way all the time?

Simenon: So why do you think TCS is town?

TCS: I'm pretty sure the mod is neutral. John was killed for talking twice. Panzer was warned for talking once. It has no reflection on their alignment. You're reaching.

That's not the cornerstone of my argument. I'm not letting PJ off the hook. But I think we should explore other options just in case panzer isn't scum.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

So, Simenon, have any explanations? I'm willing to be vote number three on this wagon, but I want to make sure no one is going to lay the quick hammer.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Simenon: I completely fail to see this 'case for SV very well known'. Lying scum. Consider an OMGUS

fos: Simenon

Hm. I'm also curious to know why panzer is defending me for absolutely no reason at all. Also, whence the case for Skruffs? (besides the bad case for me, that is.)

TCS: 2 people are at one. What vote number 3, and on which wagon?

So... the case for me is still metagaming? I've pointed out what's wrong with it already.

Simenon has two votes on him.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Tricky... mod?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I had a long weekend away. I don't think Skruffs is scum at all. His play is pretty consistent with Skruffs playing bored, ergo aggressive townie. I think Mustafa is town as well, because his vote for Skruffs is at least legitimate. Panzer's vote for Skruffs, on the other hand, looks scummy as hell. I think it fits with the typical scumplay of FOSing a partner and voting a townie.

I'm thinking panzer/simenonscum at the very least. I don't buy the case on SV yet, but IGMEOY anyway.

So for the moment, if I am voting,

unvote

and

vote: Simenon

. If he's scum, I put panzer's likelihood of being scum at about 80%.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Also, SV, if Simenon turns up scum, the same scumplay I attributed to panzer applies to you as well, so I definitely GMEOY.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

earth to panzer

yarly

All this focus on Simenon, after I only passingly mentioned his scumminess, means a) the scum are lurking b) he's getting bussed by someone, or c) our scum are being obvious. Any which way, I think we get a lot of info from this lynch.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

@ Simenon: I think there's so many people accusing/defending/ignoring you completely that lynching you is going to help us hunt out the other scum.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Unvote

You're at -1? Wow. Not any more, thanks to me!

*proud*

No, I was not trying to lynch you, simenon. I was trying to get more information about you and such out. If I thought for sure you were scum, I'd defintely be saying that you shuld be lynched. Other people are trying to bypass what I said about SV in getting you lynched, misconstruing things nad such forth. Panzer is one of those people. TCS is another. One of them will get checked out tonight.

FOS:Skruffs

[The Central Scrutinizer]

And you're saying that hopping off of a fairly reasonable wagon at the last second isn't deserving of a FOS?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Especially in concert with a pretty much contrived case against SV?

Come on, man.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I wanted you to say it. It's not like you were going to get a lynch without it, and it's not like they would have let you live.

vote:spectrumvoid

I think it's Panzerjager fo sheezy. Simenon is the close second.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Blah, I am the densest of the dense.

Just NK me, someone, ftw.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

If he is lying, then we kill an innocent, another innocent is killed overnight, and then we lynch skruffs, leaving us with 4 people and 1 scum, and then another town is killed overnight, making it a 3 person 1 scum game... Oooerr...

why do you think there is only 2 scum in this game?

Open setup.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Yeah, I noticed that today when I looked back >.<
stupid me.

Bah, you as good as claimed cop a page before I realized what was going on. If I hadn't been so dense I would have kept my mouth shut. I think I just wrote off your initial argument against SV and ignored any later posts to the point.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

vote: Simenon

This game is over.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Vote : Simenon

I just don't get why the mafia didn't kill mustafa - who i cleared yesterday.

Yeah, I agree, that pretty much stumped me. Maybe they gave up.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Huzzah. I feel 3% better about myself.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

On the other hand, my opinion of Skruffs has gone up like 10,000 points in the last couple weeks.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Stop ruining my perfect watched topics list!