Open 18 - Game Over - before 424

[LyingBrian]

Open 18 - C9 + 2

• Status:
  Game Over -
  Town
  
  
  
• Vote Count:
  
  
  
• Lynch:
  
  
• Deadline:
  
  
  
• Wiki Page

[LyingBrian]

Game Information:

• Player List:
  • IH
    (
    Doctor
    ) - Night 3
    
  • John
    (
    Townie
    ) - Day 2
    
  • mustafa15
    (
    Townie
    ) - Endgame
    
  • Panzerjager
    (
    Townie
    ) - Endgame
    
  • Ripley
    (
    Townie
    ) - Night 1
    
  • Simenon
    (
    Goon
    ) - Day 4
    
  • Skruffs
    (
    Cop
    ) - Endgame
    
  • spectrumvoid
    (
    Goon
    ) - Day 3
    
  • The Central Scrutinizer
    (
    Townie
    ) - Endgame
    
    
    Replaced:
    
    
  • _Converge
    (
    mustafa15
    ) - Link
    
  • bird1111
    (
    Skruffs
    ) - Link
• Timeline
  • Day 1
    
  • Night 1
    
    Ripley
    (
    Townie
    ) -
    Mafia
    
    
  • Day 2
    
    John
    (
    Townie
    ) -
    mod-killed
    
    
  • Night 2
    
  • Day 3
    
    spectrumvoid
    (
    Goon
    ) -
    lynched
    
    
  • Night 3
    
    IH
    (
    Doctor
    ) -
    Mafia
    
    
  • Day 4
    
    Simenon
    (
    Goon
    ) -
    lynched
    
    
  • Endgame
    
    mustafa15
    (
    Townie
    ) -
    survived
    
    
    Panzerjager
    (
    Townie
    ) -
    survived
    
    
    Skruffs
    (
    Cop
    ) -
    survived
    
    
    The Central Scrutinizer
    (
    Townie
    ) -
    survived
• Miscellaneous:
  • Player Roles
    
  • Night Choices

[LyingBrian]

Rules:

1. This is a game, please have fun, do your part, and don't let anything get personal.
   
2. The game will start in
   DAY
   .
   
3. Votes to lynch a player must be in the following format:
   Vote: ?????
   . All votes must be bolded and contain a colon directly after the word, or it will
   NOT
   be counted.
   
4. You do
   NOT
   need to
   Unvote:
   before casting a new vote, but you may
   Unvote:
   if you do not wish to be voting for anybody. Simply follow the format from the preceding rule to choose a new player to vote for. Your vote will be counted towards the
   LAST
   person you voted for. Like the voting format, if you wish to
   Unvote:
   , it
   MUST
   be bolded and contain a colon directly after the word, or it will not be counted.
   
5. During
   DAY
   , once a player has reached a simple majority of votes, they are lynched. Their role will be revealed and
   NIGHT
   will begin. You MAY
   Vote: No Lynch
   . A majority of these votes will end the day without a lynch.
   
6. NIGHT
   phases will last for 72 hours. If you do not submit a choice, no choice will be made.
   
7. DAY
   phases will last as long as necessary. If discussion lags, a deadline may be imposed. If discussion resumes, the deadline may be retracted. If a deadline is imposed and reached, and no player has reached the majority of votes to be lynched, no player will be lynched.
   
8. This game is not to be discussed outside of this thread unless your role
   SPECIFICALLY
   states so. All discussion outside the game thread will occur during the night phase, and
   NO ONE
   should be communicating with anyone during the day phases.
   
9. Once you have been declared dead, do
   NOT
   post to the thread for
   ANY
   reason.
   
10. Do
    NOT
    edit or delete previously submitted posts. Do
    NOT
    quote
    ANY
    PM’s from me.
    
11. Do
    NOT
    use invisible text, and do not use text smaller than size 8.
    
12. Treat this game as a commitment. If you anticipate being unavailable for more than 48 hours, please place a notification in the game thread or by PM to the mod.
    
13. If you have not posted or given notification that you are involved in the game within
    72
    hours, you will be prodded. If you do not respond to the prod either in the thread, by PM to the mod, or within the Vacation/Limited Access thread within
    48
    hours, you will be replaced/mod-killed.
    
14. If I feel that
    ANY
    of the rules have been broken, I will send you a warning via PM. If you ignore the warning, and repeat the offense, you
    WILL
    be replaced/mod-killed.
    
15. If you have
    ANY
    questions concerning
    ANY
    facet of the game, please feel free to send me a PM.

Roles:

• One of the following four setups is used for this game:
  • 2 mafia, 1 cop, 1 doc, 5 townies
    
  • 2 mafia, 1 cop, 6 townies
    
  • 2 mafia, 1 doc, 6 townies
    
  • 2 mafia, 7 townies
• There are 2 KNOWN roles in this game:
  • GOON
    
    You are a member of the MAFIA with XXXX.
    Each NIGHT, the MAFIA may attempt to kill 1 player by sending a PM to the Moderator containing that player's name.
    You may talk to your partner during NIGHT only.
    You win when you the TOWN has been eliminated, or when nothing can prevent this.
    
    
  • TOWNIE
    
    You are a TOWNIE.
    You have no special abilities.
    You win when the MAFIA has been eliminated.
• There are also 2 POSSIBLE roles in this game:
  • COP
    
    You are a COP.
    Each NIGHT, you may attempt to investigate 1 player by sending a PM to the Moderator containing that player's name.
    If the player is still alive at the start of DAY, you will be told whether that player is GUILTY or INNOCENT.
    You win when the MAFIA has been eliminated.
    
    
  • DOCTOR
    
    You are a DOCTOR.
    Each NIGHT, you may attempt to protect 1 player (not including yourself) by sending a PM to the Moderator containing that player's name.
    That player will be protected from a kill attempt that NIGHT.
    You win when the MAFIA has been eliminated.

[LyingBrian]

• Status:
  Day 1
  
• Lynch:
  5 votes

[LyingBrian]

• Vote Count:
  • 2) Panzerjager
    • John
      
    • The Central Scrutinizer
  • 1) bird1111
    • _Converge
  • 1) John
    • Ripley
  • 1) Ripley
    • Simenon
  • 1) spectrumvoid
    • bird1111
  • 1) The Central Scrutinizer
    • Panzerjager
  • 2)
    not voting
    • IH
      
    • spectrumvoid
• Lynch:
  5 votes

[LyingBrian]

• Vote Count:
  • 2) The Central Scrutinizer
    • Panzerjager
    • The Central Scrutinizer
  • 1) bird1111
    • _Converge
  • 1) John
    • Ripley
  • 1) Ripley
    • Simenon
  • 1) spectrumvoid
    • bird1111
  • 3)
    not voting
    • IH
    • John
    • spectrumvoid
• Lynch:
  5 votes

[LyingBrian]

Vote Count:

• [2] John
  • Panzerjager
    
  • Ripley
• [2] Panzerjager
  • IH
    
  • spectrumvoid
• [1] The Central Scrutinizer
  • The Central Scrutinizer
• [1] bird1111
  • _Converge
• [1] Ripley
  • Simenon
• [1] spectrumvoid
  • bird1111
• [1] NOT VOTING
  • John

Lynch:

5 votes

[LyingBrian]

Vote Count:

• [4] Panzerjager
  • IH
    
  • John
    
  • spectrumvoid
    
  • The Central Scrutinizer
• [2] John
  • Panzerjager
    
  • Ripley
• [1] bird1111
  • _Converge
• [1] Ripley
  • Simenon
• [1] spectrumvoid
  • bird1111
• [0] NOT VOTING

Lynch:

5 votes

[LyingBrian]

Vote Count:

• [4] Panzerjager
  • IH
    
  • John
    
  • spectrumvoid
    
  • The Central Scrutinizer
• [2] John
  • Panzerjager
    
  • Ripley
• [1] bird1111
  • _Converge
• [1] Ripley
  • Simenon
• [1] spectrumvoid
  • bird1111
• [0] NOT VOTING

Lynch:

5 votes

[LyingBrian]

Vote Count:

• [3] Panzerjager
  • IH
    
  • spectrumvoid
    
  • The Central Scrutinizer
• [2] Ripley
  • John
    
  • Simenon
• [2] The Central Scrutinizer
  • bird1111
    
  • Panzerjager
• [1] bird1111
  • _Converge
• [1] John
  • Ripley
• [0] NOT VOTING

Lynch:

5 votes

[LyingBrian]

Vote Count:

• [2] Panzerjager
  • IH
    
  • The Central Scrutinizer
• [2] The Central Scrutinizer
  • bird1111
    
  • Panzerjager
• [1] bird1111
  • _Converge
• [1] John
  • Ripley
• [1] Ripley
  • Simenon
• [2] NOT VOTING
  • John
    
  • spectrumvoid

Lynch:

5 votes

[LyingBrian]

_Converge has already been prodded, and has exceeded the 48 hours, so i am seeking a replacement... please continue to play w/o him until i can find a replacement, or decide to modkill him...

[LyingBrian]

Vote Count:

• [3] John
  • IH
    
  • Panzerjager
    
  • Ripley
• [2] Panzerjager
  • John
    
  • The Central Scrutinizer
• [1] bird1111
  • _Converge
• [1] Ripley
  • Simenon
• [1] The Central Scrutinizer
  • bird1111
• [1] NOT VOTING
  • spectrumvoid

Lynch:

5 votes

[LyingBrian]

Vote Count:

• [3] John
  • IH
    
  • Panzerjager
    
  • Ripley
• [3] Panzerjager
  • John
    
  • mustafa15
    
  • The Central Scrutinizer
• [1] Ripley
  • Simenon
• [1] The Central Scrutinizer
  • bird1111
• [1] NOT VOTING
  • spectrumvoid

Lynch:

5 votes

[LyingBrian]

Vote Count:

• [3] Panzerjager
  • John
    
  • mustafa15
    
  • The Central Scrutinizer
• [2] John
  • IH
    
  • Ripley
• [1] mustafa15
  • Panzerjager
• [1] Ripley
  • Simenon
• [1] The Central Scrutinizer
  • bird1111
• [1] NOT VOTING
  • spectrumvoid

Lynch:

5 votes

[LyingBrian]

Vote Count:

• [3] Panzerjager
  • John
    
  • mustafa15
    
  • The Central Scrutinizer
• [2] John
  • IH
    
  • Ripley
• [1] mustafa15
  • Panzerjager
• [1] Ripley
  • Simenon
• [1] The Central Scrutinizer
  • bird1111
• [1] NOT VOTING
  • spectrumvoid

Lynch:

5 votes

[LyingBrian]

all players not posting within the last 72 hours have been prodded... just a note for future reference, i'll probably be checking now 2x a week, Sunday & Wednesday since those are my off days & i have more time...

[LyingBrian]

Vote Count:

• [3] Panzerjager
  • John
    
  • mustafa15
    
  • The Central Scrutinizer
• [2] John
  • IH
    
  • Ripley
• [1] mustafa15
  • Panzerjager
• [1] Ripley
  • Simenon
• [1] The Central Scrutinizer
  • bird1111
• [1] NOT VOTING
  • spectrumvoid

Lynch:

5 votes

[LyingBrian]

Vote Count:

• [3] John
  • IH
    
  • Ripley
    
  • spectrumvoid
• [3] Panzerjager
  • John
    
  • mustafa15
    
  • The Central Scrutinizer
• [1] mustafa15
  • Panzerjager
• [1] spectrumvoid
  • Simenon
• [1] The Central Scrutinizer
  • bird1111
• [0] NOT VOTING

Lynch:

5 votes

[LyingBrian]

one of the posts lost in the move was a post where i notified everybody of a rule change... i am going to reinstate that rule as follows:

• Votes to lynch a player must be in the following format:
  Vote: ?????
  . All votes must be bolded
  and contain a colon,
  or it will
  NOT
  be counted.
  
• You do
  NOT
  need to
  Unvote:
  before casting a new vote, but you may
  Unvote:
  if you do not wish to be voting for anybody. Simply follow the format from the preceding rule to choose a new player to vote for. Your vote will be counted towards the
  LAST
  person you voted for. Like the voting format, if you wish to
  Unvote:
  , it
  MUST
  be bolded
  and contain a colon,
  or it will not be counted.

also, it has been over a month since this day started, so i am now imposing a deadline of one week... this is of course retractable, but it would require at least 7 players PMing me to retract the deadline... remember this rule

If a deadline is imposed and reached, and no player has reached the majority of votes to be lynched, no player will be lynched.

you still need 5 votes to lynch, so get to it...

[LyingBrian]

Vote Count:

• [3] John
  • IH
    
  • Ripley
    
  • spectrumvoid
• [3] Panzerjager
  • John
    
  • mustafa15
    
  • The Central Scrutinizer
• [1] mustafa15
  • Panzerjager
• [1] spectrumvoid
  • Simenon
• [1] The Central Scrutinizer
  • bird1111
• [0] NOT VOTING

Lynch:

5 votes

[LyingBrian]

Has there been a prod on bird1111? Two brief posts, the last one March 31st...

assuming this is for me, he requested replacement... still waiting on somebody to volunteer for the job...

if anybody knows anybody else that would be willing to replace in, please PM me & let me know...

[LyingBrian]

_______________

***MOD NOTE***

Skruffs

replaces

bird1111

effective immediately

[LyingBrian]

Vote Count:

• [3] John
  • IH
    
  • Ripley
    
  • spectrumvoid
• [3] Panzerjager
  • John
    
  • mustafa15
    
  • The Central Scrutinizer
• [1] mustafa15
  • Panzerjager
• [1] spectrumvoid
  • Simenon
• [1] The Central Scrutinizer
  • bird1111
• [0] NOT VOTING

Lynch:

5 votes

Deadline:

WED 05/02/07 01:00 AM EST

[LyingBrian]

@Simenon
neither your unvote nor your vote will be counted as they do not contain a colon... yes, unfortunately, i am going to be that picky...

[LyingBrian]

Vote Count:

• [4] John
  • IH
    
  • Panzerjager
    
  • Ripley
    
  • spectrumvoid
• [3] Panzerjager
  • John
    
  • mustafa15
    
  • The Central Scrutinizer
• [1] The Central Scrutinizer
  • Skruffs
• [1] NOT VOTING
  • Simenon

Lynch:

5 votes

Deadline:

WED 05/02/07 01:00 AM EST

[LyingBrian]

Vote Count:

• [3] John
  • IH
    
  • Panzerjager
    
  • spectrumvoid
• [3] Panzerjager
  • John
    
  • mustafa15
    
  • The Central Scrutinizer
• [1] The Central Scrutinizer
  • Skruffs
• [2] NOT VOTING
  • Ripley
    
  • Simenon

Lynch:

5 votes

Deadline:

WED 05/02/07 01:00 AM EST

but the mod is not counting Simenon's vote.

only b/c he did not use the correct format...

[LyingBrian]

@spectrumvoid & everybody else

if you live in a different timezone then EST, and you need to figure out when the deadline ends, look at Post 162, round up to the next hour, and that should be what time in your timezone the deadline ends...

also remember the deadline is retractable, but i still need 7 PMs total...

about 14 hours from this post.

more like just over 13 hours

[LyingBrian]

End of Day 1

Vote Count:

• [4] John
  • IH
    
  • Panzerjager
    
  • Ripley
    
  • spectrumvoid
• [3] Panzerjager
  • John
    
  • mustafa15
    
  • The Central Scrutinizer
• [1] The Central Scrutinizer
  • Skruffs
• [1] NOT VOTING
  • Simenon

Despite a looming deadline, the town is unable to come to a decision about whom to lynch. Consequently, no one is lynched, and the town goes to sleep very restless.

It is now NIGHT, choices are due by:

Deadline:

SAT 05/05/07 03:00 AM EST

[LyingBrian]

Night 1

In the morning, everyone wakes up to once again find and eradicate the Mafia. Everyone, that is, except for Ripley.

Ripley [

Townie

] - killed Night 1

8 players alive, 5 to lynch, GAME ON!

[LyingBrian]

Vote Count:

• [1] John
  • IH
• [1] Panzerjager
  • The Central Scrutinizer
• [6] NOT VOTING
  • John
    
  • mustafa15
    
  • Panzerjager
    
  • Simenon
    
  • Skruffs
    
  • spectrumvoid

Lynch:

5 votes

Vote: John

Vote:John

either one of these is acceptable... the main part for votes is the first 5 characters being "vote:", and for unvotes, the last 5 characters being "vote:"... i don't care how many spaces do or don't come

after

the colon, just no spaces

before

the colon... i don't even care if you abbreviate, misspell, or totally slaughter the username as long as i know who you're talking about... in fact the

only

reason i have you bold it is to signify a true vote, and not just screwing around... the reason why i'm so picky about the "vote:" is b/c when i pull up the newest posts, that's what i search the page for....

[LyingBrian]

Vote Count:

• [1] John
  • IH
• [1] Panzerjager
  • The Central Scrutinizer
• [1] The Central Scrutinizer
  • Panzerjager
• [5] NOT VOTING
  • John
    
  • mustafa15
    
  • Simenon
    
  • Skruffs
    
  • spectrumvoid

Lynch:

5 votes

[LyingBrian]

• This game is not to be discussed outside of this thread unless your role SPECIFICALLY states so. All discussion outside the game thread will occur during the night phase, and NO ONE should be communicating with anyone during the day phases.

the only players that should be communicating about this game should be the Mafia, and that should only occur at

NIGHT

... thank-you for continuing to follow this rule...

also, i will clarify the rule about voting one more time...

vote:panzerjager

Vote: John

Vote:John

Vote spectrumvoid

Vote: TCS

Vote:TheCentralScrutinizer

VOTE: The Central Scrutinizer

VOTE : The Central Scrutinizer

Vote;The Central Scrutinizer

Vote::The Central Scrutinizer

Vote : The Central Scrutinizer

the votes in

blue

are votes that

WOULD

be counted, the ones in

red

are votes that

WOULD NOT

be counted...

also, the 1st post has the most current vote count complete with a post # of the last post i have read... i would encourage everyone to turn on the "Always show First Post on every Topic Page:" option under your profile to ensure you have a current vote count at the top of each page... i really feel like this doesn't need any further clarification, but if you have any questions, as always, feel free to PM me... remember, don't necessarily listen to other players on whether or not your vote was counted or not counted, check the 1st post, then check the post #, and if you still don't see your vote, check your last post... if everything looks correct, shoot a PM off to me, and i'll be more than happy to take a look at it, and see if i screwed up... it's rare, but it does happen once in a while

Brian

[LyingBrian]

Vote Count:

• [2] The Central Scrutinizer
  • Panzerjager
    
  • Skruffs
• [1] John
  • IH
• [1] mustafa15
  • spectrumvoid
• [1] Panzerjager
  • The Central Scrutinizer
• [3] NOT VOTING
  • John
    
  • mustafa15
    
  • Simenon

Lynch:

5 votes

[LyingBrian]

Vote Count:

• [2] Panzerjager
  • Simenon
    
  • The Central Scrutinizer
• [2] The Central Scrutinizer
  • Panzerjager
    
  • Skruffs
• [1] John
  • IH
• [1] mustafa15
  • spectrumvoid
• [2] NOT VOTING
  • John
    
  • mustafa15

Lynch:

5 votes

[LyingBrian]

End of Day 2

Vote Count:

• [2] Panzerjager
  • Simenon
    
  • The Central Scrutinizer
• [2] The Central Scrutinizer
  • Panzerjager
    
  • Skruffs
• [1] John
  • IH
• [3] NOT VOTING
  • John
    
  • mustafa15
    
  • spectrumvoid

After John ignored a warning from God, hand-deliverd to him by a prophet, the next day out of the clear blue skies, a bolt of lightning came from the heavens and struck him dead.

John [

Townie

] - mod-killed Day 2

It is now NIGHT, choices are due by:

Deadline:

THU 05/17/07 04:00 PM EST

for the record, Skruffs had told me about John's attempt to communicate, and i sent John a warning... then John talked to Panzerjager, so i mod-killed him... Panzerjager has received a warning, but since this is his 1st offense, he will not be mod-killed...

[LyingBrian]

Night 2

In the morning, everyone wakes up to once again find and eradicate the Mafia. Yes, that's right, everyone!

7 players alive, 4 to lynch, GAME ON!

[LyingBrian]

Vote Count:

• [1] The Central Scrutinizer
  • spectrumvoid
• [6] NOT VOTING
  • IH
    
  • mustafa15
    
  • Panzerjager
    
  • Simenon
    
  • Skruffs
    
  • The Central Scrutinizer

Lynch:

4 votes

[LyingBrian]

Vote Count:

• [1] Simenon
  • Panzerjager
• [1] The Central Scrutinizer
  • spectrumvoid
• [5] NOT VOTING
  • IH
    
  • mustafa15
    
  • Simenon
    
  • Skruffs
    
  • The Central Scrutinizer

Lynch:

4 votes

[LyingBrian]

Vote Count:

• [2] Simenon
  • Panzerjager
    
  • Skruffs
• [1] The Central Scrutinizer
  • spectrumvoid
• [4] NOT VOTING
  • IH
    
  • mustafa15
    
  • Simenon
    
  • The Central Scrutinizer

Lynch:

4 votes

Tricky... mod?

i did count Skruffs Post 318 as a vote for Simenon... basically, if it's not in a quote box, i'm gonna count it as long as it follows the rest of the rules for a vote... i'm not going to take the time to read the context of each vote to make a determination on the intentions of the voter... obviously if it's in a quote box, i'm not going to count it... also, if Skruffs does not want his vote on Simenon than he can

Unvote:

... he has visited the thread at least 2 times since i updated his vote to see it, so it is now his responsibility... not trying to be mean, but i am not going to try to read into people's posts... if it's in the correct format outside a quote box, i'm going to count it... if it's not in the correct format or inside a quote box, i'm not going to count it...

thanks,

Brian

[LyingBrian]

End of Day 3

Vote Count:

• [4] spectrumvoid
  • IH
    
  • Simenon
    
  • spectrumvoid
    
  • The Central Scrutinizer
• [2] Skruffs
  • mustafa15
    
  • Panzerjager
• [1] Simenon
  • Skruffs
• [0] NOT VOTING

After a no-lynch on Day 1, and a mod-kill on Day 2, the town of Open 18 finally lynches a player. They set their sights on spectrumvoid, and lead him to the gallows.

spectrumvoid [

Mafia

] - lynched Day 3

It is now NIGHT, choices are due by:

Deadline:

MON 06/04/07 02:00 AM EST

[LyingBrian]

Night 3

In the morning, everyone wakes up to once again find and eradicate the Mafia. Everyone, that is, except for IH.

IH [

Doctor

] - killed Night 3

5 players alive, 3 to lynch, GAME ON!

[LyingBrian]

End of Day 4

Vote Count:

• [3] Simenon
  • mustafa15
    
  • Skruffs
    
  • The Central Scrutinizer
• [2] NOT VOTING
  • Panzerjager
    
  • Simenon

The town quickly decides the remaning mafia must be either Simenon or The Central Scrutinizer, and pick Simenon as the first victim.

Simenon [

Mafia

] - lynched Day 4

TOWN wins!

[LyingBrian]

Endgame

mustafa15 [

Townie

] - won in endgame

Panzerjager [

Townie

] - won in endgame

Skruffs [

Cop

] - won in endgame

The Central Scrutinizer [

Townie

] - won in endgame

[LyingBrian]

Player Roles

• Mafia
  - Simenon
  
• Mafia
  - spectrumvoid
  
• Cop
  - Skruffs
  
• Doctor
  - IH
  
• Townie
  - John
  
• Townie
  - mustafa15
  
• Townie
  - Panzerjager
  
• Townie
  - Ripley
  
• Townie
  - The Central Scrutinizer

[LyingBrian]

Night Choices

• Night 1
  
  
  • Mafia
    (spectrumvoid) attacked Ripley [SUCCESS]
    
  • Cop
    (Skruffs) investigated spectrumvoid [GUILTY]
    
  • Doctor
    (IH) did not submit a choice
  
  
• Night 2
  
  
  • Mafia
    (Simenon) attacked Skruffs [FAILED]
    
  • Cop
    (Skruffs) investigated mustafa15 [INNOCENT]
    
  • Doctor
    (IH) protected Skruffs [SUCCESS]
  
  
• Night 3
  
  
  • Mafia
    (Simenon) attacked IH [SUCCESS]
    
  • Cop
    (Skruffs) investigated Panzerjager [INNOCENT]
    
  • Doctor
    (IH) protected Skruffs

[LyingBrian]

good game, Town!

i apologize about the recent lag, but i have been dealing with some very serious, personal issues... please feel free to post your thoughts, likes, dislikes, etc. i am always open to suggestion, and as always, feel free to PM me...

[LyingBrian]

mod

is there any particular reason why you're insistent on the voting format? Just curious.

hmm, i thought i had already explained this... when i update the vote count, rather than read the entire thread, i wanted to just pick out the votes... so on each page i would search for the word "vote"... unfortunately that was creating too many hits, so i thought to myself, if i search by "vote:", that should return only the actual votes... that was why i instituted the rule, and why i was so insistent, or picky about the format... i hope it didn't cause too much inconvenience on your guys' part, b/c it really did make things convenient on my part...