Open 19 - Nightless (Over?) before 430

[John]

/in

[John]

Just to make sure, Nightless does not allow NKs right? its all death by lynch?

[John]

It's okay, I still love you.

Damn right you do.

[John]

Vote: occult

His avatar is way too cool to not be a bad guy.

[John]

Ha Ha, noone posted above you.

Unvote, Vote: Elias the thief

for having bad luck with posts.

[John]

That is the absolute best reason ever, Vitamin. Bar none.

[John]

Your voting based on something I said in pre-game, but besides that, I was simply clarifying what the rules were.

Why should I not be concerned about scum powers? You think we should know nothing about the opposition? It would be just as dumb going into day 2 and having something i didn't see coming happen. I've never played nightless before, and there are no power roles mention in the first posts, I was curious because of the mafia's inbuilt ability to NK.

Maybe i should have reworded it, but it's a little late now.

[John]

It should IMO, But thats regardless.

It has nothing to do with scum or town. It has to do with who is ignorant of the situation or not. Your twisting this on me.

If its a valid question, then why the vote?

FoS: VitaminR

[John]

The FoS is because i feel Vitamin is putting it on me, twisting what he admitted was a perfectly honest question.

[John]

True, but you at least realize how weak your reasoning really is, right?

But it is early, and its as good a place as any to start I guess.

[John]

This is my first nightless game. Is a quicklynch a little less suspicious in a game where there are no night kills? I'd imagine so, if only because we're not guaranteed to start out down two if we misfire on Day 1.

unvote

Not going so far as to vote John yet until I get an answer to my semi-noob question.

What question? You have 4 posts, none have a question.

[John]

I would say it's less supicious, but it doesn't help us. We get no night info whatsoever, so if we speedlynch a townie, we become at a slight disadvantage, with absoulutely no help.
There is a possiblity that the person will be scum, but I don't think it's worth the risk.

[John]

Implications are hard to acertain with text, NAR. try cold hard evidence.

Unvote, FoS: NAR

Just cause i think i had a vote on him, but i forgot so this is just in case. this new server thing is almost like a fresh start to me.

[John]

Same here. and i ALWAYS am the most jummpy.

Even with all this suspicion, i dont know if i really think he is scum. i think scum would think alot more about what they would say.

[John]

I had just unvoted in an earlyer post.

Just to make everything clear, i think we should have wipe the slate clean, have no votes then move from there, i think some votes got lost.

[John]

don't ignore completely, but just don't judge him based off NAR

[John]

I was suggesting that i wish there were night kills? huh. if your refering to the post in which i said night kills give information, you grossly misinterpreted my post. i was explaining why a quicklynch in nightless was utterly useless with no power roles or no NK's. as evil and sick as it may be, NK's provide alot of information.

[John]

Unvote

because i think that vote is outdated anyway.

MFoS: Occult

[John]

I'm here

Damn

[John]

When were we friends?


And no, i minor finger of suspicioned you due to other scummy statements. it should be more of an IGMEOY. im just stating that your not innocent in my book yet.

[John]

Okay so me and occult are nto friends, and for future reference, agreeing with someone on something doest make them friends. besides, the whole thing about my pregame question is rediculous in my opinion.

scruffs, you seem to get your facts a little wrong. i dunno if its skimming, or if its because you replaced, but i dont like it at all.

tony has a very, very weak case against Vit. (o yea i listen to vitaminR by chavelle, good song!)

romanus, try to post more than 3 words please. thank you.

[John]

Whoa. what the hell.

Unvote, Vote: IH

You follow someone elses vote yet again right after someone votes for them. plus your absense is weird. An you vote because he was trying to make a connection, which is not scummy in my opinon.

I also find it weird that 3 votes are on occult on page 9, when not much has changed since the last page.

Im not defending occult, im meerly curious and disturbed on how fast the became L-2. IGMEOH, as i stated earlyer, but the tables turned way too fast in my opinion.

FoS: Mustafa

because he gave better reasons to vote for other people, yet voted occult anyway. you say that Aimee's and Tony's behavior are scummy... yet you dont do anything about it. you seem hellbent on lynching occult, and weather or not your right, focusing on one person when more evidence surrounds you is simply not helping.

[John]

Your right IH. i ment the 9th page. i have no idea why i said second.

Unvote, FoS: IH

[John]

As far as taking a stance on occult, i will not. doing that is a lose lose for me. i have had my suspicions on him for a while, why do yu think we are scumbuddies. if i defend him or dont vote for him, or vote for someone else with no good reason, you will accuse me of being his scumbuddy. If i place my vote on him, you can veiw it as distanceing, you can say i was trying to save my own ass. I cant win. so i won't play (the vote occult game). when i come up with a good reason for a vote.

just so it out there, here are my top 3 suspicions for scum, though none of them are scummy enough to merit a vote in my opinion:

Elias- you go through the game in a sort of demanding way, and you seem very stubborn, which is not helpful at all to the own. Your also, as of late, non commital.
Romanus- he seems to be lurking in a clever fashion to me.
IH- maybe its his play style, or his agression twards me, but i dont like it.

[John]

Agression is not a scum tell in my opinion. it matters why they are aggresive, and at who, but being agressive in general is not a bad thing.

[John]

I have not given up on this game. i simply have been overwhelmed with work and school. im graduating in a few weeks, so thats priority #1. plus ive been working many long shifts at work.
but ill try harded.

Regarding the votes against me after a very,very brief read, i cant say much. other people have defended me. what can i do about that?

ill post again real soon with a better post.

[John]

Okay, first, i want to

FoS: VitaminR

because in another game i was with him, he was scum, and very good scum at that. this seems like a subtle attempt to start a bandwagon.

also, i dont see why lynching me would be better than lynchin some others, skruffs included. lynching skruffs would provide almost as much info considering the scummyness of the peson he replaced.

Id like to know what more specfcly that ive done that is scummy, and to void the fact that people have defended me, due to the fact that i have NOTHING to do with that. lynch them, not me.

i dont feel that ive done much that is scummy. i feel that people have reacted to me in a scummy way and that people disscussed what the posts may mean, and now scum is redirecting the finger at me, since i was at the center.