Micro 304: Vengeballl: Day V??

[Cabd]

Dammit mala isn't in this game to tease her about penguin's micro. The only one that gets the joke is my scumbuddy.

[Cabd]

Also why are people voting anything but the bert slot?


VOTE: tunnel mates

How to make bert-notsci hydra's alignment obvious:

1. Run up to L-1
2. Laugh
3. ???
4. PROFIT

[Cabd]

notsci bert should obvtown themselves so that mollie can hide behind them, and then we douse em both ok?

[Cabd]

Shouldn't that be L-4 not L-3 to start, mod?

[Cabd]

oh god the tunnel people are scum aren't they

Welcome to cabd, a page ago.

[Cabd]

Kaze's butthurt feels pretty real.

[Cabd]

what exactly is he butthurt about

Fu's stance on him, obv.

[Cabd]

Scum-mollie likely hedges her bets here on me and pretends to waffle on me more to keep me open as a mislynch option, as she's one of the few that can manage it.

So

{cabd, kaze, pollie, 2 more}
{tunnelmates, 3 more}

[Cabd]

Maybe butthurt is the wrong term for it.

"feeling grated" maybe?

[Cabd]

What? I'm voting them and want them dead. You're the one being distracted by shiny fu over there. Help me give them their release.

[Cabd]

Like what the actual fuck is this 180 from me telling you that we should lynch the obvscum that stepped out on page one?

[Cabd]

I RVS'd them, then they claimed scum. Go figure.

[Cabd]

But by all means, if you think I'm bussing, then help me out, since it's clearly lynching scum.

[Cabd]

well I am going to push for tunnel people so you have lots of time to work out that fakeclaim!

I'm gonna go with hider. It's always a good fakeclaim.

[Cabd]

....Again, tippy?

[Cabd]

@Cabd: what makes you think mollie isn't trying to keep you as a possible mislynch? given her push on you I don't see any reason she can't be doing this. also explain Kaze town

Re the first one, meta tell that I'm not sharing yet.
Re the second one, see the first one, but i'll give it away later I guess.

[Cabd]

Less likely town than my town list. Along with you, tippy, and the rest.

[Cabd]

Fucking called it? Fucking called it.

[Cabd]

This ought to be good. Do tell.

[Cabd]

Also cabd is likely red.

Back the fuck up, why am I more likely red than say bussing from the getgo blue?

(Hint, for those playing at home fu is the godfather of blue maybe)

[Cabd]

Thread is tiny, we can play on.

[Cabd]

Thread is tiny, we can play on.

Actually, seeing how much is gone upon a re-read, I'd prefer to wait till the posts are restored actually. It's the mod's call though.

[Cabd]

<------My joke





<----mollie's head

[Cabd]

what happened to fud creature and kaze being a scumteam?

Oh hun this is multiball

U may be part of the other indies

Plz don't vote me guyz until notty gets to post Tia

For those of you playing at home, THESE posts were the ACTUAL scumclaim(s). Especially the second one.

[Cabd]

at best

interesting choice of words here.

[Cabd]

It depends on what you define "those people" as. You'd know my play already, you replaced into lylo and voted with town-me to win the game in xenogears

[Cabd]

I never said it was. I'm stating that you had to read my play there, so you should have some idea of what kind of player I am.

[Cabd]

If you say so. I'm tired of you going weird on me for no good reason. Also, I'm not voting until the other posts get put back, so yeah.

[Cabd]

Like what the actual fuck is this 180 from me telling you that we should lynch the obvscum that stepped out on page one?

Like the fact that you think scum-me wouldn't go back and find the exact page they started posting on is something else. Hyperbole is a thing.

[Cabd]

e

You really ought to get that looked at.

[Cabd]

You're acting like it's somehow a scum-thing to see your RVS vote into a lynch.

When I voted in RVS, I had a 50% chance of my vote landing on scum. Why should I not push that to a lynch if their posting determines I hit heads?

[Cabd]

"Oh sorry guys, I know bertsci is caught scum but since I RVS voted them I have to lynch elsewhere"

[Cabd]

You're acting like it's somehow a scum-thing to see your RVS vote into a lynch.

When I voted in RVS, I had a 50% chance of my vote landing on scum. Why should I not push that to a lynch if their posting determines I hit heads?

don't think so...

This setup is 9 players, 5 town, 2 red, 2 blue. I'm town, so that means the pool of potential vote targets is:

Town Town Town Town
Red Red
Blue Blue

1/8th chance of hitting each player works out to:
1/4th chance of hitting red
1/4th chance of hitting blue
1/2 chance of hitting scum of either color
1/2 chance of hitting town

[Cabd]

I've never played with TiP, but considering Cabd's reaction, I can see that being his meta. However, it does open him up for some flak that a GF wouldn't want, so my stance on that stands.

Tippy wins games based upon "too dumb to be scum" so don't fall into the trap of townreading him that early. That said, yolohammers such as the one he did are alignment neutral for him.

[Cabd]

I don't; but it's not nearly as strong of a read as I'd like it to be.

[Cabd]

It was in cult games, and in a few other micros.

[Cabd]

Lel. Reading SSK when he does this prod dodge shit is an exercise in futility, so you could probably policy that sure.

[Cabd]

I have a non zero urge to hammer here.

[Cabd]

I guess we'll know shortly.

[Cabd]

4v2. Awesome. We're in good shape. Time to see who egg avoided.

[Cabd]

I feel decent about antihero and tippy.
Mollie and kaze one step below.
And then there's SSK....


VOTE: SSK

[Cabd]

So anyway, my reads:

Red:
Pollie/Kaz

Blue:
SSK?

Town:
Everyone else

Odds of his goon being one of those two names (bolded) is actually decent given he was pushing a logical progression of "scum won't bus and both names given by flipped scum are town" as his angle.

[Cabd]

Either way, SSK lynch clears shit up.


Kaze, what are your re-evaluated reads given the whole "the guy you tunneled on flipepd town" thing?

[Cabd]

Yawn. Wake me up when you wise up.

[Cabd]

I'e tried really hard, but I just can't figure out how to sell you on scum cabd kaze. Guess he's town.

[Cabd]

Yes, mostly POE. Do you want the long version?

[Cabd]

Players alive:
Pollie (Guyett/pirate mollie)
Cabd
Kazekirimaru
Antihero
MafiaSSK
TheIrishPope


Not Red:
Cabd (This guy is town as fuck; Post 132)
Kazekirimaru (Egg clearly hammered fu to get fu to vengekill kaze, doubtful they're the same team)
Pollie (Post 16; weaker read here tho)


Not Blue:
Cabd (This guy is town as fuck; Post 99)
Pollie (Post 87; post 93)
Tippy (Post 99)


Players that are potentiall red OR blue (higher % chance of scumflip):
Antihero - (His play so far reads a helluva lot more town than his listmate)
SSK - (Oh hi no interactions with either flipped scum, this flip clarifies game state and has to happen sooner than later anyways, and WOOHOO sooner)

[Cabd]

And then there was one?

Cool.

[Cabd]

4 alive. 3 town 1 scum.

Vote to lynch as normal, if the player lynched is town they should choose not to shoot, enter 3P lylo with the two townies holding vengeful shots.

[Cabd]

Although wait.

@Mod in the event of three players alive (town town scum), a townie is lynched, does the one mafia autowin or does the lynched player still get a vengekill?

[Cabd]

Okay so we get two shots at it. SO I gotta get one townread from you three. Blue team is gone so it's red or dead.

Thoughts from you three on if it's better for the 4p townie lynch (if one) to shoot or let lylo play out?

[Cabd]

...Mod was antihero blue or red? Your OP and your flip here on this page don't agree.

[Cabd]

Antihero, Red Mafia Godfather - vengekilled Day 3

A lack of flavour continued to appear.

Antihero, the

Blue Mafia Godfather

has been venged by the previous deceased.

[Cabd]

Again with the sleep prodding.

I'm thinking.

[Cabd]

ISOing egg again

[Cabd]

Not Red:
Cabd (This guy is town as fuck; Post 132)
Kazekirimaru (Egg clearly hammered fu to get fu to vengekill kaze, doubtful they're the same team)
Pollie (Post 16; weaker read here tho)

[Cabd]

So start telling me who you think it is, because right now I think it's you.

[Cabd]

That's pretty stupid, kaze. I've still only got a one in three odds, where lynch plus venge is 50-50 odds.

[Cabd]

Nah.

VOTE: tippy

We do it this way I think

[Cabd]

"which one am I willing to lose to the least of the three living players" comes back tippy.

[Cabd]

"which one am I willing to lose to the least of the three living players" comes back tippy.

I don't understand this line of thought at all since you are voting tippy. how are you going to lose to him if you try to lynch him and where is the part that you think he is scum???

"I refuse to lose to this person" means "Of my two scumreads, I'd rather lose to the other scumread than lose to tippy"

[Cabd]

Mollie really doesn't like cabd

Well unless she intends to get in here and talk about why, I'm wondering why if you have two "maybe" reads, that you're self voting and putting me in a position to hammer you right now.

[Cabd]

UNVOTE:

Thinking. Still want an answer from guyett.

[Cabd]

Okay so what doesn't mollie like, and do you share those concerns?

[Cabd]

if you got lynched who would you venge if you're town?

Fuckifiknow.

[Cabd]

I'm thinking I'd no-venge and let LYLO play out, tbqh.

[Cabd]

survivalist play.

Where does she see this?

[Cabd]

Would you leave the game to chance between tippy, kaze and ourselves? Why not go for the glory yourself?

I'm not a glory seeker; and I'm in the "vigging is mostly kind of anti town" camp, so yeah. I would

[Cabd]

Nope. I already asked that a few pages back. Are you not current on the thread?

[Cabd]

Basically, Vandesdelca, I don;t trust my reads enough to hipfire and cost town the game quite yet. Might I get to that point? I don;t know. But NOT lynching myself and lynching the scum right out kind of sounds better. I'll take my 50% shot over 33% any day.

[Cabd]

That question is best answered once I've stopped procrastinating on my re-read of the game and once I'm not tired so.... gimmie like 10 hours.

[Cabd]

No thanks.

[Cabd]

Uh.... duh? I don't trust your reads to be correct any more than mine at this point. I know you have a hammer and vig fetish, guyett, but I'm not an enabler, so you'll have to wait.

[Cabd]

Right here. I highly doubt it's going to be much of a chat though.

[Cabd]

Well mostly because I'm at work so it's a one liner here or there, not exactly full conversation supportive.

[Cabd]

I'm aware, but you've yet to try to sell me on it.

[Cabd]

I'm here. I don't think you're town any more than I think kaze is town... I think. If you want to have me hammer you that badly, sure, I give; but don't go screaming to high hell if tippy ends up being the scum.

[Cabd]

You know what, fine. I'll ignore work and read again just for you.

[Cabd]

Like if you think it's kaze, why are you self voting instead of having us vote for kaze?

[Cabd]

I could see Pie/Kaze as red due to the interaction after the hammer. FuD could be either color.

Disregard I

suck cocks

see it now.

[Cabd]

Well, usually I can ignore work because lol waiting for phones.

Right now it's "I have actual computers to re-image" night.

[Cabd]

I find it weird that you are taking no stances

...Really? I don't take stances all the time.

[Cabd]

It's not LYLO. I'd rather take my time and get it right since we technically have two shots at it.

[Cabd]

Because lazy, pretty much. If you think I'm scum, then vote me. Otherwise I guess you'll just have to accept that I don't conform to what you think I do. Because whatever cabd model you've got is pretty damn off from it.

[Cabd]

you are voting tippy but you don't really seem to really believe he is scum!

OBJECTION!

[Cabd]

unwilling to lynch kaze?

Did I actually say that I was unwilling, or are you just assuming that? All I've indicated so far today is being unwilling to hammer you right now, IIRC?

[Cabd]

I want more from TIP before I make any final calls. I don't think it's you, but my heart doesn't want it to be kaze so yeah.

If you're more sure than I am by all means ask for the hammer, I'll give it to you just to shut you up at this point, but if you're just intending to shoot me then stop fucking around and vote me instead.

[Cabd]

Like both TIP and Kaze are just sitting back watching us go at it with no input and it sucks.

[Cabd]

They've posted elsewhere since we started.

[Cabd]

They've posted elsewhere since we started.

Lies and slander. This conversation didn't take off until after I started playing league tonight.

You posted in several other games well after we started.

[Cabd]

Ok so what do you think about the back and forth? Does it change anything for you?

[Cabd]

Okay, or that works too.

[Cabd]

Ah well :/

we were going to shoot either cabd or tippy. Kaze's reaction after we got lynched looked town.

I WAS A FUCKING INNOCENT CHILD BECAUSE OF THE MOD'S SLIP OH MY GOD

[Cabd]

What mod slip up?

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME YOU WERE CONFIDENT ENOUGH TO SELF LYNCH BUT DIDNT READ THE FUCKING GAME!?!

[Cabd]

...Mod was antihero blue or red? Your OP and your flip here on this page don't agree.

Antihero, Red Mafia Godfather - vengekilled Day 3

A lack of flavour continued to appear.

Antihero, the

Blue Mafia Godfather

has been venged by the previous deceased.

[Cabd]

Scum me wouldn't have been confused on who was what, because i'd know who my partner was/my own team color?

[Cabd]

It's fine, mollie loses her "can read cabd" card today.

[Cabd]

Yeah no, I actually wouldn't have faked that as scum. Not that fluidly at the start of the day, and not with that reaction style.