Mini 1543--Natirasha's On Parole!(Game Over)

[MafiaSSK]

I think I'll trust Cabd here in the spirit of NatMod. And if this goes like AA, well then, yeah.

VOTE: Selkies

Prove your towniness, Selkies!

this is your first d2 post

tru. And yeah, I've kept that vote ever since. Cabd gave me an opposing viewpoint that I believed more and more as the day went on.
Why would I just go with it right after I protected Selkies?
A. The read wasn't strong. But then why would I protect Selkies? Because Selkies was a townread and was at least giving content when no one else would.
B. Cabd, who also had been townreading Selkies, was seemingly significantly into his vote on Selkies.
C. Selkies never did prove their towniness.

Ok,

Unvote

Vote MafiaSSK

That is total and utter bullshit. You voted Selkies twice early on, and never stated a townread on them. You started D2 swinging immediately, by that I mean you voted Selkies within 1 page of the start of D2 and stayed for pretty much forever. If you were just coming off of protecting him,

why would you do that?

This is explained above. But this vote is all types of wrong, and I'm honestly starting to think you might be scum, IK.

[Idiotking]

The vote is because you're lying. I'm OK with gambits, but you're already claiming doc, and there is no good reason for you to lie about having protected Selkies. Meaning you are either dumb, or having to fake a protect on someone who is the top wagon at the moment, because you aren't actually the doc.

Also, your A,B, and C are just terrible, terrible reasons for your vote-following-protect. Just terrible, in ways that I'm not even sure how to put into words.

[Natirasha]

Vote Count 2.27(aka the "grr site chat" Vote Count)

MafiaSSK(1):

Idiotking

Cabd(0):

Selkies(5):

MafiaSSK, Bert, Aronis, notscience, The Goodfather

zMuffinMan(0):

notscience(0):

The Goodfather(2):

Selkies, Cabd

Nachomamma8(0):

Bert(0):

Aronis(0):

Idiotking(1):

Nachomamma8

Guyett(0):

No Lynch(0):

Not Voting(2):

zMuffinMan, Guyett

With eleven alive, it takes six to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2014-02-19 21:00:00)

[Idiotking]

But screw it, I'm going to try to respond to them anyway.

A. The read wasn't strong. But then why would I protect Selkies? Because Selkies was a townread and was at least giving content when no one else would.

This would only make sense if you had absolutely no stronger town reads. Although from my reading you didn't state one, you also went completely incognito about halfway through D1. Now if you were still paying attention (like you say you did), then you would pretty much have to have a stronger town read. For example, Cabd. You apparently thought positively enough of Cabd to IMMEDIATELY sheep his vote against Selkies. This stinks of contradiction.

B. Cabd, who also had been townreading Selkies, was seemingly significantly into his vote on Selkies.

And this means... what? Isn't this only helpful to you if you had a townread on Cabd? And if you did,

then why wouldn't you have protected Cabd instead?

C. Selkies never did prove their towniness.

Unless you're dead,

that is impossible.

[Idiotking]

I really feel like we shouldn't be letting this wagon to less than 2 days. Can we end this soon so that there's no flashwagon?

Also, this sounds just scummy as hell.

[Aronis]

GF-SSK scumteam?

[Idiotking]

Now see, this might just be a thing.

[MafiaSSK]

But screw it, I'm going to try to respond to them anyway.

A. The read wasn't strong. But then why would I protect Selkies? Because Selkies was a townread and was at least giving content when no one else would.

This would only make sense if you had absolutely no stronger town reads. Although from my reading you didn't state one, you also went completely incognito about halfway through D1. Now if you were still paying attention (like you say you did), then you would pretty much have to have a stronger town read. For example, Cabd. You apparently thought positively enough of Cabd to IMMEDIATELY sheep his vote against Selkies. This stinks of contradiction.

Cabd was a townread. Just not a stronger townread, but i'll get to that in B.

B. Cabd, who also had been townreading Selkies, was seemingly significantly into his vote on Selkies.

And this means... what? Isn't this only helpful to you if you had a townread on Cabd? And if you did,

then why wouldn't you have protected Cabd instead?

I did, indeed. Cabd was a close second but lost on the activity front.

C. Selkies never did prove their towniness.

Unless you're dead,

that is impossible.

Dude. It's one day until deadline. Selkies is the lynch. Stop trying to make a flashwagon happen. Especially a dumb one.

[Aronis]

UNVOTE

VOTE: MafiaSSK

[Cabd]

Just couldn't resist fake claiming PR could ya?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: ssk

[Cabd]

Scumdoc, town nurse, town vig.... Sounds utterly like something nati would do.

Also possible.

[MafiaSSK]

I'm not fucking fake claiming. I'm telling the truth. My reasoning for Selkies was shit, fine. But it's the truth. I'm not the best player ever, nonetheless the best doc ever.

Can we lynch selkies now though? I was wrong. Selkies is scum.

[Idiotking]

Why are they more scum than you?

[MafiaSSK]

Why are they more scum than you?

Because you only think I'm scum because we disagree on the fundamentals of mafia.
Selkies has actual reasoning behind them.

[MafiaSSK]

Why are they more scum than you?

Because you only think I'm scum because we disagree on the fundamentals of mafia.
Selkies has actual reasoning behind them.

Oh and a wagon. When you know we're one day from deadline. Flashwagons are bad!

[Idiotking]

Why are they more scum than you?

Because you only think I'm scum because we disagree on the fundamentals of mafia.
Selkies has actual reasoning behind them.

And those reasons are...?

[MafiaSSK]

Why are they more scum than you?

Because you only think I'm scum because we disagree on the fundamentals of mafia.
Selkies has actual reasoning behind them.

And those reasons are...?

So my current original reasoning on Selkies comes down to a really one point:
Selkies was seemingly taking advantage of an apathetic town.
So part of the reasoning on my protect on Selkies was that they actually posted shit, right? There wasn't a lot of meaningful content Day 1, and when there was I feel like Selkies was dictating the general direction of it. Then, and this goes sort off of some of the reasons Bert posted, but Selkies pushes were weak and they weren't actively poking and prodding people as much as you would expect them too. Because they were in control. That's the only way I can see this.

The rest I feel like are adequately described by Bert and in detail. And yes, I am agreeing with his case. And yes I know you have a problem with that. And no that's not a valid reason to think I'm scum.

[Selkies]

Why are they more scum than you?

who asks this?

if you were looking for his case on us, he literally just gave it, in its glorious entirety, 3 posts ago

but yes, i'm absolutely fine with lynching between ssk/aronis/GF today.

cabd, fery basically wants your babies because they glisten with so much town. i told fery this yesterday, but we are fine with being part of the vig-pool tonight. don't announce your target--scum RB. but i'm assuming you ran that through your head when you claimed to start with.

[Selkies]

Selkies was seemingly taking advantage of an apathetic town.

holy shit

bert bitches at us for not leading town like we should be

you bitch at us for it

make up your mind goddamn

[Idiotking]

I was hoping his case was more than just "Eh, Cabd says so."

[MafiaSSK]

I was hoping his case was more than just "Eh, Cabd says so."

How have we never played a game together? Because with the amount that I personally dislike you at right now, I think I would remember you.

[Idiotking]

I dunno.

2216 sounds made up, by the way.

[Selkies]

its called bussing.... dur


I just don't like the way your wagon dissipated yesterday and your play seems nothing like

your super obv town posting in red wine mafia

.
I strongly suspect you are scum but if you aren't at least your lynch will be quite informative.
Some of your posts seem off. 1946 for example.
Also if you are town goodfather (another scum read of mine) will likely bite a bullet.

I was not super obvtown in red wine because of my posting. I was town because I got wagoned on day 1 and was in the lead for lynch. And by the end of day 2, we all knew two dead scum had been on my wagon. I was no threat to you guys even as town semi-confirmed by a scum-pushed wagon because my reads sucked and I wasn't making course corrections. I certainly wasn't leading town that game.

You were scum in that game, so you knew every stance I took was a town stance. Several town players retained doubts about me. Including Cabd iirc.

[Selkies]

i just realised you never claimed a n1 protect

You're never going to guess.
Alright, I'll tell you.
Selkies. Because, ffery.

terminal hives. Why didn't you protect Cabd? He was dropping megaton crumbs.

[MafiaSSK]

i just realised you never claimed a n1 protect

You're never going to guess.
Alright, I'll tell you.
Selkies. Because, ffery.

terminal hives. Why didn't you protect Cabd? He was dropping megaton crumbs.

How do you not know this about me yet? Me and crumbs=no. I can't drop them. I can't pick them up.