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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:58 am

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John wrote:BTW, Ripley still hasn't posted again. I can't make an accurate analysis if people are lurking/not posting. I can't judge them, and it really holds up the game, even more than my spam posts.
_Converge has made one jokey post, which was more than a week ago, whereas I made a post with content 2 days ago, so I'm guessing your problem with me is not primarily a lack of posting, but that you didn't like me criticising your posts.
John wrote:Maybe I overreacted to being told I was spam posting, but when someone comes in who hasn't really posted at all, and tells me to stop, it angers me, and I hope you see why.
I didn't tell you to stop. I didn't even ask you to stop. It's entirely up to you how you react. I don't really understand why you would get so angry; as far as I can tell you're particularly put out because I hadn't posted much myself. But your own posts were a large part of why I wasn't posting. It all gets a bit circular.

Anger is not helpful in finding scum. When you start attacking a person because you're angry with them, you want them to be scum so much that you can't view them logically. It clouds your judgement. Your OMGUS vote on me sounded like pure anger, and that's almost never a good reason.
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Mon Apr 02, 2007 8:47 am

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Vote Count:

  • [2] Panzerjager
    • IH
    • The Central Scrutinizer
  • [2] The Central Scrutinizer
    • bird1111
    • Panzerjager
  • [1] bird1111
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  • [1] Ripley
    • Simenon
  • [2] NOT VOTING
    • John
    • spectrumvoid
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5 votes
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Mon Apr 02, 2007 3:43 pm

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Panzer is right about one thing, don't let previous games affect this one. It does not help us, especialy if he is town or a power role. It's unproductive. If you have proof (which you do), then go off that.

I know Panzer can be a prick, but read through the bullshit.
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Mon Apr 02, 2007 3:54 pm

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Ripley wrote:
John wrote:BTW, Ripley still hasn't posted again. I can't make an accurate analysis if people are lurking/not posting. I can't judge them, and it really holds up the game, even more than my spam posts.
_Converge has made one jokey post, which was more than a week ago, whereas I made a post with content 2 days ago, so I'm guessing your problem with me is not primarily a lack of posting, but that you didn't like me criticising your posts.
John wrote:Maybe I overreacted to being told I was spam posting, but when someone comes in who hasn't really posted at all, and tells me to stop, it angers me, and I hope you see why.
I didn't tell you to stop. I didn't even ask you to stop. It's entirely up to you how you react. I don't really understand why you would get so angry; as far as I can tell you're particularly put out because I hadn't posted much myself. But your own posts were a large part of why I wasn't posting. It all gets a bit circular.

Anger is not helpful in finding scum. When you start attacking a person because you're angry with them, you want them to be scum so much that you can't view them logically. It clouds your judgement. Your OMGUS vote on me sounded like pure anger, and that's almost never a good reason.
Fine, I see your point. I just think you should have posted regardless, at least to tell me to stop spaming.

_Converge is lurking, or being unbeliveably inactive. He should be proded, or replaced. Thanks for that fact ripley.
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:20 pm

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_Converge has already been prodded, and has exceeded the 48 hours, so i am seeking a replacement... please continue to play w/o him until i can find a replacement, or decide to modkill him...
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2007 4:37 am

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I disagree with Simenon on Ripley, and I also don't like the way he's (Simenon) eliminating so many people this early.

Filling up threads with spam is something that I've seen scum do. It's also true (what Ripley said) about players like this not being night-killed. So what Ripley said was not 'the scummiest thing in the thread.' No offense whatsover, but I don't think John's capable of that sophisticated an act at the moment, which is why I'm thinking it's just bad play.
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:28 am

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John will never be capable of sophisticated acts so QTF of the above.
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2007 5:10 pm

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Fuck you Panzer.
What does QTF mean.
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:47 pm

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I meant QFT, and stop OMGUSing.
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:53 pm

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What does QTF mean?
and it was OMGFU
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:56 pm

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Quoted for Truthery.
Unvote, Vote: John
. View that as a "get serious" vote.
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:59 pm

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What? I didn't know. screw u.
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:03 pm

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I know. Your still being useless.
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:06 pm

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Your fat.
and your equaly useless.

wait wait, my bad, your better at pissing people off.
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:10 am

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John wrote:I mentioned me and panzer knew each other because the way the posts were going, it seemed as though me and panzer were scum buddies. This explains th random votes for each other, and the charades joke.
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unvote, vote:John


Why are you explaining your random vote? Perhaps it's the warning, but I'm pretty sure that at the moment I favor a John lynch over a Panzer one. The spammy posts I can understand.... but explaining away a random vote?

SV, why did you unvote in 73 if you liked the case?
Simenon wrote:Possibly the scummiest thing in the thread.

Attacking people for posting differently is a scumtell. Are you encouraging a lynch because you think john "posts rubbish"? Sure he does, but so do many with his similar experience. If you don't find anything scummy within his posts, just ignore them!

Secondly, John is helping the town by being active, not hurting it. I don't think john is overly active, but the town is overly inactive.

This sounds like a baseless and somewhat opportunistic attack on a newbie. Keeping my vote.

IH and TCS are probably town, and I have a small feeling spectrum is too.
No, being active, and being spammy are two different things.

Being spammy does not help the town. He's not posting attacking him for having a different posting style. He was essentially actively lurking, or posting without saying anything.

FoS:Simenon



Right now, anyone who is scummy to me at the moment seems to be linked/defending/something to John at the moment.
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:24 am

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Vote Count:

  • [3] John
    • IH
    • Panzerjager
    • Ripley
  • [2] Panzerjager
    • John
    • The Central Scrutinizer
  • [1] bird1111
    • _Converge
  • [1] Ripley
    • Simenon
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    • bird1111
  • [1] NOT VOTING
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Lynch:
5 votes
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:29 am

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After reading through once, I'm finding John to be seriously spammy, but I'm not quite sure if I think he's mafia or just naturally spammy. I think that so far, Panzerjager is the player I least like, I'm finding him overaggressive, so I'm going to
vote:Panzerjager
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I'm getting a good feeling about TCS, but I don't quite know why. Call it a hunch, I guess.


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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:15 am

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No, being active, and being spammy are two different things.

Being spammy does not help the town. He's not posting attacking him for having a different posting style. He was essentially actively lurking, or posting without saying anything.
Yeah, but I think it's pretty damn obvious he's not actively spamming. This whole case is a rather large attempt to take advantage of someone who doesn't really know how to play the game, and it's rather depressing.

And Ripley saying we should lynch him because he posts rubbish is a perfect example of that. With that, he admits he wants to lynch John not only for John's scumminess but because he dislikes his playstyle. Which is entirely scummy.
Right now, anyone who is scummy to me at the moment seems to be linked/defending/something to John at the moment.
Perhaps you should realize not everyone will share your opinions.

@Panzer: meh, he's scummy, but I'm just not feeling his lynch. I quite like my vote on Ripley.
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:45 pm

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Simenon wrote:Perhaps you should realize not everyone will share your opinions.
What was the purpose of this statment? No duh, because there isn't a lynch yet.

To me? That phrase is there for a purpose. Just from that statement right there, it sounds like you're just trying to unsubstantiate my reasons.

It would work if that had anything to do with any kind of case. Of COURSE everyone isn't going to share my opinions, or else the game of mafia would have no point.
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:49 pm

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mustafa15 wrote:After reading through once, I'm finding John to be seriously spammy, but I'm not quite sure if I think he's mafia or just naturally spammy. I think that so far, Panzerjager is the player I least like, I'm finding him overaggressive, so I'm going to
vote:Panzerjager
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I'm getting a good feeling about TCS, but I don't quite know why. Call it a hunch, I guess.
Good feeling as in TCS=town or TCS=scum?
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:12 pm

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IH wrote:
Simenon wrote:Perhaps you should realize not everyone will share your opinions.
What was the purpose of this statment? No duh, because there isn't a lynch yet.

To me? That phrase is there for a purpose. Just from that statement right there, it sounds like you're just trying to unsubstantiate my reasons.

It would work if that had anything to do with any kind of case. Of COURSE everyone isn't going to share my opinions, or else the game of mafia would have no point.
Way to completely ignore the context.

You said "everybody I suspect seems to be defending John". Perhaps others have differing opinions on John. Just because you believe he's scum, which I don't, doesn't mean that I'm scum for defending him logically. Considering you ignored the reasons for why I think he's town, I'm going to assume you agree with their worth.

In that case, you're linking me with John only because I have a differing opinion. You are unsubstantiating me.
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:21 pm

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The most scummy player is TCS, the most annoying player is John. I will lynch either of them. If I am lynched. just make sure you get TCS scum next.
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:11 pm

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@ IH: I guess the vote wasn't random so to speak. I was simply stateing we knew each other. Examples of this are the first vote and the charades joke. I don't think it merited a vote IMO.
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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:14 pm

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The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
mustafa15 wrote: I'm getting a good feeling about TCS, but I don't quite know why. Call it a hunch, I guess.
Good feeling as in TCS=town or TCS=scum?
Town... I think...
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:14 pm

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Vote Count:

  • [3] John
    • IH
    • Panzerjager
    • Ripley
  • [3] Panzerjager
    • John
    • mustafa15
    • The Central Scrutinizer
  • [1] Ripley
    • Simenon
  • [1] The Central Scrutinizer
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    • spectrumvoid
Lynch:
5 votes
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