N's Notably Narcissistic Nonsensical Namesake (game over)

[Mac]

ooba/peace was my thoughts on a read through. ive read up and written down some notes, so ill see where i am with them soon.

[Mac]

peacebringers scum, pretty sure of that

[Mac]

2 deaths... seriously...
ugg
luna musta been responsible for the extra

if luna was responsible for the extra kill, why does that make them scum? do you think scum got a nightkill AND another kill?

i have another question for you which depends on your answer to this. would prefer it if no one else got involved in this too.

[Mac]

molla can you explain how you said somewhere that sleepykrew's role worked in tangent with yours?

Dude my brain hurts

I've been out of it this whole game. My role and your role work together so let's work together.

[Mac]

This means that you can protect one player at night. You will stop any kills targeting them from working. However, if you yourself are targeted for a kill, both of you will die.

so, peacebringer, why do you think there were two deaths?

VOTE: peace

[Mac]

Luna, who do we vote for?

Assuming ooba bolds some zany phrase in thread and dies immediately afterwards, Peacebringer.

yeah but ooba shouldnt die today.

[Mac]

Luna, who do we vote for?

Assuming ooba bolds some zany phrase in thread and dies immediately afterwards, Peacebringer.

yeah but ooba shouldnt die today.

Why not? It is a free kill, after all.

because if ooba is town and varsoon is scum, scum can autowin pretty much?

[Mac]

ive got some shit to do but illbe back in an hout hopefully to discuss some things with you all about nero/mollie's role.

[Mac]

so i was looking at what mollienero's role could do to our prs by way of changing them. imagine each of the following have been normalised:

dopog, Non-Negotiable Namecaller, Compulsive Framer, Nice > non-compulsive framer
mnemonicdevice, Nothing Notable, Vanilla Townie, Nice, lynched day 2 > nothing
PeregrineV, Noodle Negotiator, Fruit Vendor, Nice, died night 2 > nothing
Kmd4390, Nothing Notable, Vanilla Townie, Nice, lynched day 3 > nothing
DeasVail, Necromancer, Seer, Nice, died night 3 > nothing
Dante, Nagging Notifier, Mafia Roleblocker Mailman, Naughty, lynched day 4 > nothing
Rail Tracer, Nothing Notable, Vanilla Townie, Nice, died night 4 > nothing
Mitillos, Nearby Newcomer, Universal Backup Traitor turned Compulsive Framer Traitor, Naughty, lynched day 5 > turns to normal mafia perhaps?
Majiffy, Non-Necessary Negligent-er, Conditional Action Delayer, Nice, died night 5 > actions work straight away?
Shadowy Poison, Nanny, Babysitter, Nice, died night 5 > turns to proper doctor?

now key that in with claimed roles here

paranoid cop > cop
naive cop > cop
sleeping vig > vig
daytalk enabler > nothing
tree stump > nothing?
hated double voter > normal double voter.

where i was going with this is that clearly town has some decoys - seer, fruit vendor - to the normaliser. scum don't really have anything that could change apart from traitor>mafia but im not even sure this would happen. this is why I think peacebringer is a naughty daytalk enabler - when the decoys are normalised, nothing happens. when his role is normalised, nothing happens but he still works for scum.

2 cops seems overpowered too, it's twisting my gut to see that if we were both targetted town would be overpowered AS FUCK. like if i was normalised night one and molla night two, by night 5 we could have half the towns alignments known roughly. AND DAYTALK. it just doesn't add up for me, hence why i have some suspicions of molla. also i feel weird that he's not considering this at all and just calling me town.

side note: varsoon isn't scum with anyone except PB or me (since he & partner could've jumped on to PB and hammered - assuming we're in mylo.)

[Mac]

content post tomorrow at some point. apologies for forgetting about this games existence

[Mac]

town. why do you feel im scum so bad?

[Mac]

town. why do you feel im scum so bad?

Gut. Something feels wrong about you in this game.

ive only just dropped into this game on this day. if you pinpoint what it is, i can help you see where you are going wrong.

[Mac]

interesting point i have written in my notes is that dante was attacking mnemonic for using meta, whilst at the same time, turning the other way from peace using meta on katsuki.

that should fit in with your notes ooba

[Mac]

Reminder that Mit was mafia traitor, so not likely on the board and probably did not know who was scum...

chances are he knew

[Mac]

Reminder that Mit was mafia traitor, so not likely on the board and probably did not know who was scum...

chances are he knew

based on what?

traitors generally receive their buddies in their rolepm, i believe.

[Mac]

vote: ooba

[Mac]

I BELIEVE

vote: ooba

[Mac]

but what the actual fuck varsoon if i didnt like you so much id blacklist you for that shit

[Mac]

indeed.

shall we talk about the elephant?

[Mac]

varsoon is hated, right?

[Mac]

see, the play makes sense only from the perspective of you being scum, luna.
Mac is scum here, varsoon is dead. It is all about getting the right fit at end game, it is about what you think you can do to get a win.
All it takes is one person to have it wrong. So Varsoon has 2 votes, engages in blustery accusations of Mac. You know you are not going to persuade me otherwise. The ship sailed on me being an easy lynch but there is an off chance of convincing Varsoon to look my way if not with who he has been pointing at. If Mac were scum, no reason to kill off BB Molla over Varsoon as can talk to BBmolla in private and far easier to get the miss. And yes, I realize the double secret, extra special WIFOM scenarios that can happen. Usually, the simplest solution is the solution. The psychology fits in one direction right now...

you're suggesting that if i were scum, varsoon would be dead because he's suspecting me? using your own logic against you, if luna were scum, you should be dead because you're pushing them the most.

i feel like we're prolonging the inevitable here, i feel like it's obvious ooba was trying to quickhammer LUNA for a scum win. what do you think happened there? varsoon could be the other scum but i highly doubt he'd troll us to this extent (in fact, I totally don't doubt it, but I don't think it's happening here.) you tried peace, but ultimately it's not going to work.

[Mac]

vote: peacebringer

[Mac]

you're ignoring all the obvious signs that point to luna being town. like i said, i think lynching you will result in the win and we're just putting off the inevitable.

[Mac]

why is it beneficial for luna?

why do you think ooba quickhammered luna?

[Mac]

hey, varsoon... read over the whole slot on Mac. Please explain to me the psychology of RC's play if scum...
followed by Titus, then Mac's play at the tale. You are going on an expectation that is faulty. Add in things from a design perspective. You seriously think balance wise the mod put 2 opposing "cops" together as neighbor with one bad and one good? And then the bad one just initially locked onto the good one? really? And then kills their partner at the end? Ask yourself Varsoon why you are alive, seriously...
Look serious at Nacho's play. Compare it with His record. Seriously.

then explain to me the psychology of my play as scum...Luna himself admitted I would have to be a master manipulative, super good player to pull it off. I am not that good.
Luna-Nacho's play has been one to avoid things and then at the tail here try and engage things think is scummy.

i am literally lost with that post. the ooba quickhammer was clear for everyone to see.

[Mac]

ignore the quote. no idea how that got there.

[Mac]

like i feel pb has realised im right about the luna quickhammer and is trying to feign a reason to suspect me. im struggling to make sense of his recent posts but it's like "you said quickhammer... must be scum" - ?

i feel like it was an unnecessary move from an ooba/luna perspective since varsoon came out of nowhere and voted luna. couldnt really be scripted between luna/ooba imo.

so it's pb. im fairly confident of varsoom/luna town. townbloc?

also varsoon - <3

[Mac]

also if any of you two are scum i will break down.

[Mac]

hehehe

[Mac]

nah im trolling, im town. i think we won.

[Mac]

I BELIEVE

[Mac]

why do you keep saying it's luna?

[Mac]

hahaha. no. but you were starting to turn on me late on, now you're back to luna?

smells like we lynched scum.

[Mac]

NACHO ABUSED THE BELIEVING SYSTEM, ITS NOT FAIR

[Mac]

VOTE: NACHO

QUICKHAMMER

[Mac]

we can drown our sorrows over pizza

[Mac]

ILL BUY YOU PIZZA IF YOU BUY ME BEER