just thought I'd get that out of the way now because I
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oh, I just realized I said there'll be two scum alive after today, so clarification before Brian-scum tries to pull the 'scumslip' angle: I was thinking worst-case scenario as evidenced by pointing out the slim chance of Jacob-scum (which I wouldn't do if he wasn't being useless btw). that, and/or my tired brain forgot we lynched scum yesterday. also if I was scum and 'slipped' why would I do so at a point where I'd get lynched by LYLO (example: 7-2, mislynch 5-2 jacob dead, mislynch 3-2 I'm still alive?) when I could just coast.
just thought I'd get that out of the way now because Iknowsomeone will bring it up, even if this makes it seem a bit defensive.If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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Is this DP or EagleIn post 619, DoctorEagle wrote:I think scum definitely bussed, imo. Hiraki was on the wagon, (what a surprise).
Also, I think Sakura is town after that "I'll lynch myself in order to prevent a no-lynch"
NS might be scum, because I wasn't really liking TNE, so it makes him scum by PoE.
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you can vote Brian and save face by bussing now, or we can lynch you next.
your call, ns.If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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Nah, don't trust a scumread claiming RB tyvmIn post 627, InflatablePie wrote:you can vote Brian and save face by bussing now, or we can lynch you next.
your call, ns.
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you know when Brian flips scum I'm blocking you tonight right
if you're scum you're throwing the game.If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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I'm bored and waiting to leave for an event today, so I have time to chat.
assume I'm scum. what is the scum motivation for me claiming roleblocker after bussing my scumbuddy yesterday.
I actually want to hear your train of thought because even stepping back and trying to look at things from an outside POV I have no idea how you've come to this line of reasoning.If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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seriously, you can stop playing the "lol you're scum you're so cute" card. it's annoying enough when Fate does it.
if you think I'm scum, then I'm pushing a lynch on a townie, then I deserve to be lynched, so you should make a case forwhyI'm lying
so like, you should be doing this anyway. I don't want to hear the "I'm not giving my reasons because you're scum" argument.If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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okay.
so I'm scum. I (or we) NK'd to do this gambit. This is HOPING there's not a roleblocker in the setup. (I'm just gonna say 'we' from this point on to make it easier btw)
Wecouldhave a rolecop to help with this, but this is not likely as I outlined earlier, given that they killed a scummy Goon Cop instead of leaving him alive for WIFOM. unless they recruited traitor AND chose two upgrades.
this is all a stretch but let's keep going.
so now we push a mislynch on a townie. he dies, and jacob has to die tonight because he's fairly conf-town after ETL flipped scum. ok.
it's now 5:2, I'm alive, pull the scum-hit-traitor card, we lynch another townie. kill a townie tonight.
it's 3:2, I'm alive in LYLO. I get lynched and it goes to 3-man. and at this point I would have had to be confident enough that my scumbuddy distanced himself enough to not get lynched in LYLO.
so to recap: hope there's not a roleblocker, NK despite being down a scumbuddy, pull this wild gambit where I get lynched in LYLO anyway, and pray my scumbuddy can pull the win.
is this accurate?If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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if I had a dollar every time I had to mention Occam's Razor in a game...If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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Yup.In post 634, InflatablePie wrote:okay.
so I'm scum. I (or we) NK'd to do this gambit. This is HOPING there's not a roleblocker in the setup. (I'm just gonna say 'we' from this point on to make it easier btw)
Wecouldhave a rolecop to help with this, but this is not likely as I outlined earlier, given that they killed a scummy Goon Cop instead of leaving him alive for WIFOM. unless they recruited traitor AND chose two upgrades.
this is all a stretch but let's keep going.
so now we push a mislynch on a townie. he dies, and jacob has to die tonight because he's fairly conf-town after ETL flipped scum. ok.
it's now 5:2, I'm alive, pull the scum-hit-traitor card, we lynch another townie. kill a townie tonight.
it's 3:2, I'm alive in LYLO. I get lynched and it goes to 3-man. and at this point I would have had to be confident enough that my scumbuddy distanced himself enough to not get lynched in LYLO.
so to recap: hope there's not a roleblocker, NK despite being down a scumbuddy, pull this wild gambit where I get lynched in LYLO anyway, and pray my scumbuddy can pull the win.
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not only would we no-kill to put ourselves behind a full lynch, but we also pray there's a tracker and not a roleblocker in the setup. (since there's no vig or IC).
in which case, unless we chose two upgrades and recruited traitor (again, reason for killing scummy GoonCop), I'm getting tracked. but that can't happen. goon cop, bodyguard, and let's assume tracker and I'm fakeclaiming. town needs one more PR. meaning an IC (no), vig (no), or roleblocker. oops.
okay so we chose one upgrade and recruited traitor, right? still leaves room for a tracker? wait a second, town gets 2+2 upgrades and there's no IC or Vig. so they have a roleblocker. shit.
ok, so we didn't recruit traitor. then I am on my own, have to kill Jacob, and I'm getting tracked.
is this smart?If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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*two more PRS in the first example, I suck at math
so yeah still impossibleIf you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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wait wait lemme guess
I'm scum, hit my traitor last night, and am claiming roleblocker to save face
again praying there's not a blocker (50/50 chance)
again getting tracked to the NK for the rest of the game
umm.If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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the ONLY way this theory can make sense, is if there IS a vig despite two nights showing evidence against that and he shot the traitor both nights like a dumbfuck. he can't have been roleblocked because I have to be lying about being a blocker too. so if ANYONE ELSE wants to claim roleblocker besides Brian, be my guest.
and this STILL assumes I'm ballsy enough to gambit the claim.
occam's razor, get on the fucking wagon already.If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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oh
wait
traitor's only a one shot bp isn't he
so how can there be a vig if there's not a roleblocker then
there can be a bulletproof scum guy and a strongman? meaning they didn't recruit traitor and killed off a scummy and USELESS goon cop n1. see, if goon cop scanned one of them it wouldn't have mattered, and even if it's useless you still get subconcious towncred for having that inno on you.
oh but that puts us back at the 4 PRs scenario too, meaning there's a tracker AND a vig. I didn't recruit my traitor so I'm getting tracked WOOP WOOP WOOP
I'm gonna go get ready for my event, be back tonight.If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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I hate it when people are dumb.In post 643, Sakura Hana wrote:Why do you need to overexplain yourself?If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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And I don't want scum ns to try and argue out of this
It actually saves me frustration.If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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