Newbie 320 - Berry Village Mafia V (Game Over!)

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/confirm

We're lynching remussaidow Day 1, btb.

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hey, that was a copy paste, it should have italicized!

Copy pastes don't take code with them.

And I might be Aeneas.

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Vote: Caddock

Venkman, switch over to Caddock, please. He's scum. Honest.

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Unvote, vote: GreenLiquid

<_<
>_>

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Also, feel free to ask me any questions you might have.

Venkman, I'd still appreciate it if you voted for Caddock.

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Instead of using "

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wrote:", you can also do {quote="Cogito Ergo Sum"}{/quote}(with []s instead of {}s, obv.)

I have no particular problem with your vote on me. I'm just probing. But

FoS: Venkman

for misquoting me. I said please.

Also, if you were to vote Caddock now, that would be the first vote on me, not that 2 votes is bad. At this stage in the game, we need to create some pressure, get something going to incite discussion. A small wagon serves that purpose while not being detrimental to the town. You should be careful with third votes, not so with second votes. (Although there are some who would disagree with me on that last point.)

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that would be the first vote on

me

Caddock

Fixed.

Cogito...why did you switch all of a sudden? It seems very suspicious to me, especially when you are trying to bandwagon on my random vote.

I believe in the power of bandwagons. I like to use my vote fully and I certainly don't mind putting some pressure on GreenLiquid. He can take it.

This post does show a pro-town mindset, I would think.

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I would still feel comfortable, yes. But worrying about getting lynched is not part of my style.

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Bandwagons for the scum it sounds from your post.

I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. What gives you that idea?

And if you are pushing such pro-town in that post, you didnt need to point it out, did you?

When I said "this post", I was referring to the quote, your post, not mine.

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A good town doesn't let bandwagons turn into easy lynches. And a second vote is never to going to lynch anyone.

I'm not sure what you mean by the last question. If I were scum, I would also bandwagon, yes. Because I try to act the same way as scum as I do as town. I always bandwagon.

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For trying to pregame lynch me. Seriously dude, was that even legal?

We do allow jokes on this forum, yes.

I would not describe my play so far as defensive. I've simply tried to explain my actions fully because it's my playstyle and I can understand that people who don't know me may find it suspicious.

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[quote="Peter Venkman"]CES has been absent since I put the heat on him. I'm curious if this is because of real life commitment, or because he felt his own defense was only making things worse and he wanted to lie low.[quote]
Sleep + School, essentially.

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Unvote, vote: remussaidow

Venkman, Eldarion and Nocmen are looking somewhat pro-town so far, I would think. GreenLiquid I'm not sure of, Caddock has yet to post(but the thread hasn't been up that long, so that's natural. Remus' posts have not demonstrated a pro-town mindset.

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Oh snap.

Unvote

, that'd have been a little overboard.

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Being fallible sucks.

Why wasn't Remu lynched??

The scum need two mislynches to win, not one. A quicklynch might be a good short term move, but it's a really bad long term move. Besides, I wouldn't be surprised if noone was even on during that 50 minute window.

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A third vote, though certainly somewhat risky, is not and never will be a lynch. And I don't think there's a newbie in this game that would make such a silly mistake(apart perhaps from newbie scum, but that would be helpful.)

Son of Mars, don't be such a spoilsport. Let the man have his random vote!

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I know, it's not random, it's arbitrary. I'm still going to call it random, because that's how we do things around here.

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There is nothing behind my vote, except an instinct and extrapolating gut feeling that Cogito Ergo Sum is a cherrie.

So your vote is not random? You've read the thread and you feel I'm more likely to be scum?

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And claiming so early is a detriment to the town. It certainly wasn't required.

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Psst, romulus, why don't you vote for Eldarion? It'll be fun.

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I don't see how that question's relevant. Certainly your vote does not depend on mine, Romulus?

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Grammar, yes, life, only a little.

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I'm honestly not sure what to make of now a ranger's play. I'm gonna have to think on it.

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Gah, now a ranger is giving off so many newbie scum tells AND town tells, I really have no idea what to think of him.

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Theoretically, the Mafia could kill a Mafiate at Night, although considering it is in this setup always a bad move, for all intents and purposes they can only kill good guys.

Also, considering it's "Newbie" Day, I will, in the grandest tradition of International Mafia Day Month, compliment Nocmen, Eldarion and Peter Venkman's play. (You can be a bit paranoid at times though, Peter.) It is of a higher quality than I encounter in most newbie games.

Now a ranger, I think you need to put some more thoughts into your posts. Don't be afraid to ask!

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I said that because it's Newbie Day! YARR!

I'm never content-heavy, Peter. That's not how I get the job done.

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First off, noone vote yet. A single townie on townie vote is enough to lose the game at this point. We can't afford to make mistakes. And there's no need to rush things.

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If I had to guess, I'd go with remussaidow and Peter here, although I could easily substitute Nocmen or Eldarion for Peter. I'd like to hear some more from Eldarion.

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GreenLiquid was the actually the only one who really knows my playstyle in this game and who, as such, did not find me really suspicious, apart from the accidental third vote. This is pretty much how I play. I feel it works for me.

And for your information, my first post Today was devoid of game-related comments because I was somewhat tired. It was 10:42 pm for me and I just needed to get that out there because I've seen townies throw away games because they didn't realize the dangers of voting so soon in such a situation.

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You know...thats every player besides yourself that you just accused there.

In a way, I suppose. But I'm just letting you know where I stand and currently I don't have strong suspicions and I don't really think anyone is town. My pool of suspects has sadly not diminished since the start of the game.

CES: As Peter pointed out, all I have seen from you during this game is a series of accusations, some based on crap logic, one of which seemed to randomly put a person at lyn-1 early on in the game.

Craplogic? You're going to have to back up that allegation.

CES

> I re-read my post and realized it could be read with an angry tone. I'm sorry, and didn't mean it that way. If you can't tell, I'm really into this game. I really want to win and am upset by the mislynch.

Anger, aye? Don't worry about me, that sort of stuff doesn't bother me, but that does sound pro-town. I'm going have to re-read your posts and see whether I get a sincere anger vibe. That would mostly definitely be helpful.

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Are you tired now?

Nope. I do feel like eating a pancake though.

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But it's totally true. I wouldn't have wanted him dead. He makes sense as a kill for pretty much everyone else though.

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"Clear" me? No, of course not. As I said earlier, he was slightly suspicious of me over the accidental third vote. But he certainly didn't share your suspicions over what is essentially just my playstyle.

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I just re-read Peter Venkman's posts in the context of his remark about emotional involvement and I must admit he seems sincere. I'm going have to re-evaluate my other suspicions too then.

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I'm giving it 50% odds that our scumgroup is Romulus and Nocmen, now.

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I would so have nightkilled you if I were scum.

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Hey, Nocmen, no fishing. Scum certainly could've decided not to kill someone because there

might

be a doc.

Peter, you would've been the likeliest target if I were scum, yes. I'm not though. Considering your suspicion of me, GreenLiquid was the most logical nightkill for the real scum group.

Also, Nocmen, doctors can't self-protect.

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I'm just being honest. I would've killed Peter. This is true. I don't expect you to believe it. Furthermore, I know people never believe this type of argument, so I'm gonna throw in a common sense argument too. Killing Peter would remove a vocal opponent. Killing GreenLiquid gives me very little, but a weak WIFOM argument that noone ever takes seriously because they're afraid to get screwed over by nightkill analysis.

I made the same argument in my first newbie. It was true then and it's true now.

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A very interesting vote...

A bit quick, but I'm not sure how much that means.

I still think it's Nocmen + Romulus, but I'll have to think over this one.

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You agree with me on the last point?

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Why does that suprise you?

It just seems a bit sudden.

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Got your hand caught in the cookie jar, Nocmen?

In addition, why are you distracting us with non-arguments? Of all the things you could be talking about right now, you choose to nitpick me arriving at a fairly obvious conclusion that you also arrived at.

I have no problem with your suspicion of Remus, I just found it surprising.

If you had read my entire post, you would still see I have a heavy FoS on you. However, I feel it is more important to analyise the first day 2 vote and lack of lynch.

Well, it is more important. That doesn't mean it didn't constitute a major shift in your thinking.

Would you like to actually help the town once this game? Would you like to maybe analyise some posts? Give us your oppinion? List your suspects?

My suspects, as I already stated, are currently Romulus and Nocmen. Which post(s) would you like analysed? If you insist, I'll take a shot at it.

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I didn't vote for Romulus because there's no need to rush things. I'm going to take my time and try to eliminate as much uncertainty as possible.

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And why aren't you considering voting for Nocmen? The lack of quicklynch should be pretty damning from your perspective.

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I have no idea where that comes from. At least one of you and Nocmen is scum. Voting for me at this point is illogical.

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I'm ready to vote. I don't see my opinion changing anymore.

Vote: Remus

It's time to lynch the scum.

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Well played.

I am noticing that I'm bad at reading people who are attacking me. I should work on that.

I did have a fleeting suspicion it was Nocmen + Peter after Nocmen's vote and the ensuing discussion, but in the end Remus and Nocmen just made more sense as scum.