NY 164: Maniacal Street Mafia (Anticlimatically finished.)

[Rena]

Hi, HAYLEN here. My account is experiencing major chat issues. Because the lobby was blocking my PM, ISO and preview buttons, now SOMEONE opened a private conversation with me which I can't close and it's blocking my submit button. So until this is sorted, I'm stuck with this account.

With this many players, it we aren't going to miss one townie. Unless that one townie is THE GOLDEN TOWNIE and needs to be around sp we can win the game. Setting up a lynch for the hammer tomorrow is ridiculous when we don't know the facts or the night kills yet.

[Rena]

Wevshould've given Oversoul time to post something.

Why is #2403 scummy again?

[Rena]

To whoever said this day isn't too long: 99 PAGES. 99!

10 pages day 1 is usually long. 20 max.

99!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lynching now can only benefit us. Yes I have a scum read on Oversoul, I'm at work so I don't have my notes on me but one of the biggest things was INFORMED TOWNIE IS NOT A NORMAL ROLE. (Can someone confirm I'm not way off the mark? I've just returned from a year long haitus and things tend to change around here.)

Even if Mastin is screwing with us, there were other reasons he was scummy. So he is the perfect Day 1 lynch.

Oversoul: You said you have extra info. As you can see, you're very likely to be lynched today. You should give us that info/make up some bullcrap now.

[Rena]

@Haylen: Oversoul later admitted to lying about the role. Said it was a gambit. Said he didn't get much from it.

Oh for the love of

Those gambits hardly ever work ~.~

Long shot: Anyone want to lynch B+B today?

[Rena]

And why might that be?

Are you just calling people scum who call you scum again?

[Rena]

But they've spent the entire game advocating sheeping "anyone who has the same opinions as me is town" with one or two SHEEPING IS WRONG...but only if you're not sheeping me posts in there. That's both inconsistent and hypocritical. Besides, sheeping is definitely anti-town.

[Rena]

And why might that be?

Are you just calling people scum who call you scum again?

You should try reading the thread before I find myself becoming uncivil.

I just iso'd you and picked out all your yaay sheeping posts and booo stop sheeping posts. I need to learn how to use the multi-quote button

Oi nacho! Last time you called me obvious town, you also said I had a top secret towntell. This was in a multiball game, I think, Large Normal? You were scum there and you told me later it's you did it because I have a habit of automatically assuming those who call me town are town themselves. Then I get mislynched when that player flipped scum.

Why haven't you accused me of being scum yet? My known meta as town is to active lurk, generally active as scum, most active as SK? I rarely make a shit tonne of posts, especially day one, definitely not this many in the space of 24 hours. I'm fullfilling my old SK meta so far.

[Rena]

I plan on flinging shit until I'm not posting from my work place

Why so defensive?

[Rena]

Makes sense.

Tell me about the non-Majiffy BB head.

[Rena]

Oi nacho! Last time you called me obvious town, you also said I had a top secret towntell. This was in a multiball game, I think, Large Normal? You were scum there and you told me later it's you did it because I have a habit of automatically assuming those who call me town are town themselves. Then I get mislynched when that player flipped scum.

Why haven't you accused me of being scum yet? My known meta as town is to active lurk, generally active as scum, most active as SK? I rarely make a shit tonne of posts, especially day one, definitely not this many in the space of 24 hours. I'm fullfilling my old SK meta so far.

You've been gone for like a year. I'm sure you'll be active in the first game you post in regardless of what alignment you got.

"I don't trust your meta, it's too old."

Also I'm pretty confident I always read you as town except when you were actually scum. Right?

"I am confident that I can read your town meta."

[Rena]

Does it not make sense that after 20 games she would have cottoned on to you knowing her meta and changed it?

[Rena]

Fair play. I can understand that.

Truth be told I'm beginning to doubt my BB read, not because of the meta thing but because the "everyone who reads me should know I'm town." Thing that comes with sheeping is protown as long as you're sheeping me. Since it has been so prevalent, I am not sure whether this is genuine scum leading town or town thinking everyone should know I'm town. What say you?

[Rena]

Oi CTD, why so quiet for your usual textwall posting self? The majority of your posts have been about the massclaim, do you have anything more to say on recent events? On Wednesday, you said you would post more info on Thursday.

[Rena]

Not defensive, I just have issues with people coming into page 99 of a game and trying to make an argument based on the first 10, acting like they're hot shit as they do.

It's 4 days until deadline, what did you expect me to do? I hadn't been following the game, do you expect someone to read 100 pages in 4 days, analyse and build a case not to mention keep up with what was being said? It doesn't happen like that. I contemplated asking for a deadline extention but we're already at 100 pages, it would be anti-town to prolong the day any longer. By the end of night phase, I will be caught up.

[Rena]

Listen, I don't give a shit which head you are, no player should be being a little bitch to other players this. You are ruining my enjoyment of the game.

Tldr: Stop being an asshole.

[Rena]

My apologies, I didn't mean to tar the thread with insults like that. I'll tone it down.

[Rena]

Pro-tip, careful with iso. You don't get everything in context.

Nacho, BeautyBeast, Koobla, OmDes are my town reads. Less sure on Beauty though.

Thor, Oversoul, Bacda, Nero are my scum reads.

I'm pondering over CTD.

No opinion on anyone else.

[Rena]

Wait, leaning scum on Ryu too.

[Rena]

Pro-tip, careful with iso. You don't get everything in context.

Nacho, BeautyBeast, Koobla, OmDes are my town reads. Less sure on Beauty though.

Thor, Oversoul, Bacda, Nero are my scum reads.

I'm pondering over CTD.

No opinion on anyone else.

care to explain bacde to me?

I'd love to explain why you are wrong

Your posts aren't useful.

[Rena]

I've fixed my account on my phone but not my ipad. Since I use my ipad more I'll stick to this acvount for simplicities sake. Sorry about that.

[Rena]

Oi. That mod warning was aimed at you and me. I told them I'm sick of your bullsit.

Mods: If BB continues being an offensive asshole to everyone I'm replacing out.

<<< You're not the only one who has issues with that hydra. It's been dealt with. >>>

[Rena]

Having been awake for 56 hours (nothing happened of interest unless you count getting a puppy and passing my karate grading, I conclude that sleep deprivation is boring) you guys aren't my priority. I'll do posts and stuff when I wake up.

I've been watching the OmDes hydra, though, they seem protown to me.

Kublai makes my gut scum-o-metre tingle though. Not enough to go reaction hunting but enough to make me slightly uneasy.

The wagon on me is probably scum driven.

Spoiler: <<< This late mod-edited votecount sure as hell better be useful >>>

Haylen - 4 (Cephrir, Om the Destroyer, Nero Cain, Thor665)
Nachomamma8 - 1 (Bacde)
Desperado - 1 (ArcAngel9)
Thor665 - 1 (Slandaar)
Cephrir - 1 (CrashTextDummie)

With

21

alive, it's

11

to lynch.

[Rena]

Hi. Reading. Apparently when I say "I'm catching up on sleep" I mean I'm going to sleep for two days with a bit of waking in between.

[Rena]

^you. Why are you making deals with people you don't know are town?

You don't seem to care about the town losing with those methods.

[Rena]

How many people have said I'm scum without reasoning yet? Haha

[Rena]

Vote Bacde

[Rena]

I want to know why the "vig" is making a deal to lynch me tomorrow when he's so sure I'm scum. As a vig, if he is as sure as he claims to be, ghe could just off me tonight.

[Rena]

Hey bacde, who did you target last night, as vig?

[Rena]

Yeah i did nothing yesterday, was surprised at how fast the day went.

[Rena]

Hey bacde, who did you target last night, as vig?

I'm actually not vig, I was trying to draw the nightkill

I'm a reflexive night-vengeful townie

I don't believe you. Only idiot scum would target Thor over you.

[Rena]

So why are we lynching me? Because you know not giving reasons to allow the person to defend themselves is as scummy as hell, right?

[Rena]

Its not omgus if it's true. I've always had a problem with people wanting to lynch others without giving them a chance to defend themselves.

You've had the abridged version of those notes, the majority of it was my distain over B+B's scummy actions.

[Rena]

How is "why are you lynching me?" not a request for a case?

[Rena]

So why haven't you delivered?

[Rena]

Are you deliberately misremembering to iso me as Haylen?

[Rena]

This lynch makes me very happy from what I've read at the moment. I don't have time to write my whole case now but the reasoning involved that stupid non-normal informed townie claim.

vote oversoul

I was going to push for this lynch, Thors or BeautyBeast if my reasoning didn't change during the last half of the thread I need to read.

@Haylen: Oversoul later admitted to lying about the role. Said it was a gambit. Said he didn't get much from it.

Oh for the love of

Those gambits hardly ever work ~.~

Long shot: Anyone want to lynch B+B today?

And why might that be?

Are you just calling people scum who call you scum again?

But they've spent the entire game advocating sheeping "anyone who has the same opinions as me is town" with one or two SHEEPING IS WRONG...but only if you're not sheeping me posts in there. That's both inconsistent and hypocritical. Besides, sheeping is definitely anti-town.

And why might that be?

Are you just calling people scum who call you scum again?

You should try reading the thread before I find myself becoming uncivil.

I just iso'd you and picked out all your yaay sheeping posts and booo stop sheeping posts. I need to learn how to use the multi-quote button

Oi nacho! Last time you called me obvious town, you also said I had a top secret towntell. This was in a multiball game, I think, Large Normal? You were scum there and you told me later it's you did it because I have a habit of automatically assuming those who call me town are town themselves. Then I get mislynched when that player flipped scum.

Why haven't you accused me of being scum yet? My known meta as town is to active lurk, generally active as scum, most active as SK? I rarely make a shit tonne of posts, especially day one, definitely not this many in the space of 24 hours. I'm fullfilling my old SK meta so far.

I plan on flinging shit until I'm not posting from my work place

Why so defensive?

Makes sense.

Tell me about the non-Majiffy BB head.

Does it not make sense that after 20 games she would have cottoned on to you knowing her meta and changed it?

Protip: Be careful with iso.

[Rena]

^ All of those posts referenced B+B and my line of questioning in some way shape or form.

[Rena]

Yeah I did. Because my opinion changed.

[Rena]

People who are calling me scum FOR NO OBVIOUS REASON then refusing to state why!!!

Is this really the best we can do on day 3?

[Rena]

Sorry, unfortunately I'm not a mind reader, I can only watch you all, analyse you all and vote you all. I SEE WITH MY EYES DAMMIT, NOT MY INNER EYE.

I'm not caught scum. I'm mildly irritated that site meta has descended to epicmafia standards.

[Rena]

I read that Kublai and ignored it because bullshitz.

You can see them if you like when I get my notebook tomorrow. I wrote those up in Southampton and now I'm in Bournemouth. Didn't think I'd need them.

[Rena]

Heh. Heh. Heh. You want to lynch me cause player interaction? xD

Bacde. I'm mostly concerned that not one scumteam targetted you. And because you seem to be deliberately misreading me. "Are you pretending not to be Haylen." Read the actual post, scummy jim. And stop reaching.

Cephir. How do you know how many players are in a scumteam? Btw, I'm ignoring you now because you're tunnelling.

@ Nero: Because I can't believe that that is THE ENTIRE CASE.

[Rena]

By the way, I am THE GOLDEN TOWNIE.

[Rena]

Also, why are we letting CTD coast through this entire game?

[Rena]

Can I borrow enough cash to pay my tuition fees?

[Rena]

Mastin: Can you prod CTD? He's been gone 7 days.

[Rena]

I'm claiming because I'm pre-emting the 3 people who will vote me in the next hour while I'm setting up my newbie game.

Claim: Watcher.

I've crumbed multiple times.

Having been awake for 56 hours (nothing happened of interest

unless you count getting a puppy and passing my karate grading, I conclude that sleep deprivation is boring) you guys aren't my priority. I'll do posts and stuff when I wake up.

I've been watching the OmDes hydra, though, they seem protown to me.

Kublai makes my gut scum-o-metre tingle though. Not enough to go reaction hunting but enough to make me slightly uneasy.

The wagon on me is probably scum driven.

I targetted Bacde last night due to his Vig claim. Originally intended on watching Thor after establishing the multiple scumteam thing. That point is made here:

Hey bacde, who did you target last night, as vig?

I'm actually not vig, I was trying to draw the nightkill

I'm a reflexive night-vengeful townie

I don't believe you. Only idiot scum would target Thor over you.

That's why I was pissed off at Bacde. Had I targetted Thor as I originally planned, we'd have caught scum.

And here's the last one:

Sorry, unfortunately I'm not a mind reader,

I can only watch you all

, analyse you all and vote you all. I SEE WITH MY EYES DAMMIT, NOT MY INNER EYE.

I'm not caught scum. I'm mildly irritated that site meta has descended to epicmafia standards.

Now which of you picked up my massive breadcrumbs and tried to force a lynch over it.

[Rena]

With that "who did you target?" question at Bacde, I was hoping he would claim roleblocked again, then my night action wouldn't have been completely useless.

No one visited either. That's how I know Bacde wasn't TARGETTED at all, by any scumteam.

[Rena]

@Rena: You up for a Bacde wagon?

Of course

Vote Bacde

[Rena]

I was going to target Thor because I thought it would lead me to the other scumteam, at that point I was thinking of what ScumRena would do. Then I thought NO WAIT, TARGETTING THE POWER ROLE WOULD BE A BETTER PLAN because my thought process changed to lets work as a team rather than as an individual.

The only thing you had going for you is the power role claim.

There is a method to my madness.

[Rena]

This will be WIFOM but I'll say it anyway. It would be absolutely stupid for me to fakeclaim an investigation type role in my third mastin game after having a successful cop fake-claim in my last mastin game. Guaranteed someone would go back and take a look at that game to get a feel of the mods setup ideas and stumble upon how that game ended. Especially if it's an investigative role I had no experience of how to play.

[Rena]

Because I don't care how scummy I sound?

[Rena]

Can't go five minutes without checking this game, can I?
(Votecount)

Call it karma for the few weeks you didn't have to mod your last game. What with the crash and all that.

Oh hey, while you're here...regardless of if I'm on the winning team, can I rule the world for nostalgias sake?

<<< Who knows? We'll just have to wait and see. >>>

[Rena]

I haven't seen sexier reads than Nachos in a long time. Damn, he's hawt.

[Rena]

V/A for up to 48 hours.

My little bros been in a car crash.

<<< Noted. >>>

[Rena]

Getting on this ASAP. I'm back now, brothers got a dislocated shoulder, a concussion and a totalled car. Lovely.

Will back off on the CTD is lurking thing. Didn't realise there was reasons there, sorry!

[Rena]

I'm currently having Nacho, Human Destroyer and Kublai Kahn as my town reads. I'm not sure if it's my instinct playing up but I'm still a bit paranoid about them both. I guess that's a good thing though.

Cephir, Nero and Bacde are my stronger scum reads. I could go with a lynch on either of those. Will be updating myself on the Kitty case next.

[Rena]

I'm not feeling an AK scum. It seems too easy.

I could easily see Seanald as scum ie lurking through most of the days to the extent I forget he's actually playing this game, coming in to bandwagon that sort of thing.

[Rena]

Two seconds. Doing mod stuff.

[Rena]

I was about that make that exact same comment, Mastin >.<

Just so everyone knows, I can't defend Fuzzy's actions so I'm not going to bother trying as it would all be speculation.

If Nacho is scum, Bacde isn't his buddy or the other way round. Nacho has made a connection between them too blatant, if Nacho is scum he could be setting Bacde up for a mislynch upon his own death. I don't believe Scum-Nacho is in the habit of making his scumbuddy connections so obvious.

Oh, Nero is doing stuff now he's people think he's scum for being useless.

Unvote

that vote would be useless.

[Rena]

Indefinite V/LA at the weekends.

This is purely in case I do what I did this weekend and sleep for 16 hours on Saturday (cause night shifts). In other news, I can fully get back to prioritizing this game because my laptop issues are fixed and I've moved out of my flat. Yay!

While I'm reading, have there been any claims? Anything super important happen that I should read RIGHT THIS SECOND?

<<< V/LA acknowledged and noted. >>>

[Rena]

Fflu, I also said in that post that I had been away for the weekend, if I say I was away for the weekend does that sound like I've been reading? It's poor reasoning to want to lynch someone for going V/LA.

I have a town read on Fflu and CTD right now. Still feeling scum on Nero.

Slandaar contradicted himself in post 4444 he refers to me as the town watcher and then puts me at the top of his scumlist in post 4557. Which is it? I could definitely see Cephir as scum.

Still paranoid about Kahn and Nacho, possibly a little bit with CTD.

I forgot Peregrin was even playing this game, same with Penguin. Both are in my null category.

I'm seeing Desparado as town now, perhaps he needs to be pushed again later just to make sure, since he reacts funny when he's pushed.

I don't think we should be directing the *claimed* vig. That would give scum information on where he is targetting so if they have a roleblocker, they could block him from making that kill and if they have a Jailkeeper, they could jailkeep one of their own. Maybe redirect. That's loads of possibilities, I expect the scum team to be quite powerful.

[Rena]

Somebody complained that I'm paranoid over CTD and Nacho because I consider them both very good players, I've played with both of them before multiple times and my reads on them have been on and off. Add into it that Nacho is an old friend and I'm an emotional player ~ I've always found it difficult to have the heart to kill him. I'm also easy to manipulate once someone tells me they're town - that was one of the reasons I dropped the case on B+B, I remembered that sometimes town think everyone who has the same opinion as them is town too.

That "scumteam" thing that looks like a scumslip was actually a typo. I typed that on my ipad and am notorious for misspellings on it elsewhere.

Slandaar never answered why he is contradicting his own read on me.

If I had to choose between the top 3 lynches, I would go here

Vote Slandaar

[Rena]

OMGUS isn't a scumtell.

[Rena]

How is Rena still alive?

I have a multivitamin everyday.

[Rena]

(Also, omgus can be a scumtell, depending, and in this case, with these wagons where they are, I think it is. There's also the aspect where you're scum so I tend to interpret additional actions as scum motivated)

If you're planning on fake claiming cop, it wont work. Insane cop is not a normal role.

[Rena]

And no, OMGUS is not a scumtell. I was asked to choose 1 of the top 3 wagons to vote and decided to do so because my vote was just hanging there being useless. I am not feeling a Bulz lynch will do any good, I'm not self voting and that left Slandaar who has given me a reason to vote for him which I have previously discussed.

[Rena]

my mentor once got a cop[ed town on a player. he trusted his own read over the cop read and the player flipped godfather. wish I could do shit like that.

play has to support claimed role and rena's doesn't. can we plz lynch her in the next day round?

.

I've never played a watcher role. I can count on one hand how many time's I've played town power role. I'm just winging it because I don't know proper watcher play.

[Rena]

Ignore flavour text, it means nothing.

I targetted ThAd and received no result. I believe I may have been blocked or something because when I targetted Bacde on Night Two, I received a nobody targetted him result not no result.

[Rena]

Aimed at someone (It's 3am) - I'm playing like a VT ie not being scared of being NK'd because THAT'S HOW TOWN PLAY. I trust my fellow townies enough to win this if I get killed. I think at least one of the people who was pushing for my lynch yesterday is town, that's why I'm still alive. This is because it makes lynching me easier. After all, why waste your bullet on a power role that could be lynched soon?

[Rena]

Rena, what result did you get night 1?

I got a nobody visited the Om Hydra result.

@ Penguin - you are essentially asking me why I did not receive a result. How am I supposed to know why I didn't get one? I'm not a mind reader. I just send an action in and receive a reply later. If I knew why I didn't receive anything, it would make the game way too easy and we might as well be playing an open setup.

If I missed anything aimed at myself, direct me to the question. Nero said I'm not answering his questions but I can't find them.

More in a bit.

[Rena]

Hi, I decided to go swanning off on a nice summer holiday without telling anyone because I believed I would have internet access. The fucking EE sales person lied and told me my dongle would cover my holiday area. Now I'm trying to use very dodgy BT Openzone. If anyone ever considers using them, don't. I've been disconnected writing this post 4 times. I'm home tomorrow though.

Rena, do you agree that both you and ThAd are claiming to have unsuccessful night actions? Do you think you were both blocked? If you're town, wouldn't you be massively suspicious of ThAd and/or Bulbazak?

1. Clearly, we are.
2. Asking me if I think we have both been blocked is presuming I believe ThAd's claim. I sort of believe it, I'm not 100% certain. Why would I be suspicious of Bulba? I actually presumed KK had JK'd ThAd because that's the only way (given the claims) that both myself and he could have unsuccessful night actions. What wouldn't surprise me is if mafia threw out a PR claim knowing I would target that as looking at my previous watcher strategy for the game, it's clear I was targetting claimed town PR's. Blocking me at the same time would ensure I did not get a result if I did something unpredictable. Why do you think I should be suspicious of ThAd?

I don't know if a game with a Ninja usually has both a Watcher and a Tracker; if not, it isn't inconceivable that Rena opted to gamble that one wouldn't be around and fake-claimed.

This sort of thing doesn't occur to me. I never think of role combinations, instead I opt for letting everyone else think of them for me. That's why my fakeclaims are usually duds. It's definitely inconceivable, I don't think enough for that.

Why did you unvote me?

When I was reading earlier, I noticed somebody question why my pre-claim play was different to my post-claim play (I can neither find that post now nor remember who asked it: I think it was either AK or Fluff though.) I can answer this. It's a very old problem I've had with my play. As soon as I'm attacked, my post rate increases, the when it drops my post rate drops with it. After claiming, I need to fight the half of my brain that says "YOUR JOB HERE IS DONE." because as you know, half of your job is convincing others of your role and the other half is scum hunting. I believed I would have been night killed the night after I claimed, that's why my style became more vanillary. That's my role now, mafia know I'm watcher - to the town, I am now about as useful as a vanilla is. Yes, it's a terrible mind set, hence why I've been trying to fight it. You'll find evidence of this in every single one of my town games - vanilla or PR. It happens in my scum games too but not as much, as scum I need to worry about dying, as town I don't.

My Nacho paranoia is heightening again. I really want to see his response to the accusations brought against him.

I think it's hilarious that you're questioning the fact that I moved my vote off of you and onto the guy you're trying to lynch tough.

Why? I've always considered that a town tell. If Nero was worried about Bulba being lynched after you put your vote on him, he would have unvoted. Instead he's analysing other peoples votes on that wagon.

[Rena]

Well there's been that whole case made against you, you have been some of the major lynch wagons.

I'm scum? Oh?

[Rena]

I can't find why people were voting you o.o I've got the buddying Bulbz (possibly) thing.

That didn't answer my question, why all of a sudden has your read on me changed?

[Rena]

Please tell me that's not the only thing you've taken away from my post, you've managed to quote about the least important sentence from it. To say that he's analyzing my vote against Bulba is a stretch. To call such a throwaway question a town tell in the face of everything else he's done is a bigger stretch. Aren't you the least bit bothered by his play as outlined in the rest of my post?

What's your read on Bulba?

Nah, it wasn't the only thing I took from your post, it was something I needed to query whilst I was thinking. I'm trying to think before posting as part of my new play, it isn't going anywhere fast @.@ Anyway, I didn't say he read town to me, just that questioning votes (especially if somebody moves off yourself and onto the person you are voting).

The fact that you don't even consider this tells me that a)you are not actually thinking things through in a pro-town manner and b)you are going out of your way to tie people to Bulba.

This actually makes me think Nero is bussing Bulba. I think if Bulba flips scum, we definitely need to look at Nero. I find Nero's play change particularly concerning considering it changed when he was about to be lynched. However, why would scum want to put themselves out in the open like that? Unless he's scum with a powerless role or he was connected to Town on Day One.

I do agree with the rest of your points about him. I think even if Bulba flips town, we would learn a lot for tomorrow.

Vote Bulba

CTD is my strongest town read.

<<< For the record, this is why I prefer votes to be on a new line. I almost missed this vote entirely, and only noticed it because it was explicitly pointed out. >>>

[Rena]

Isn't it a bit risky for hypo-scum (unlike to be lynched) to keep claiming no result on claimed town PRs?

[Rena]

That would be a pointless role for scum, other than to confirm themselves as town.

[Rena]

Brain fart. You get the name of person who targetted aswell. I can see how that would work.

[Rena]

I'll need to send out a mass-poke.

I swear to god...If I am poked one more time...

ThAd, I'm Haylen. I switched accounts over 100 pages ago.

If I'm no lynched today: hey dude, if you're a town PR who blocked me, don't do that again? x.x I'm pretty sure KK targetted ThAd anyway and thats why neither of us could action.

[Rena]

Jailkeepers prevent the target from performing an action and having an action performed on them. KK wouldn't have known that I was going to target ThAd.

[Rena]

You can lynch me if you think it will bring the town information. Out of interest what will you do when I flip town watcher? I suggest looking at those on my wagon, particularly Nacho and Ceph. CTD is most likely town, try not to lynch him. I don't trust Penguin or Seanald though. I doubt every scum left will be on either mine or Bulbz wagon, there will be at least one floating around elsewhere.

[Rena]

^ What he said in my defense.

Hm, the only way I could see both myself and ThAd being blocked is if either both scum factions have a roleblocker or if one scum and the town have one.

With regards to scum numbers, I've been thinking 1/4 of the game are scum just because that's how I form games.

I still want to know what you'll do tomorrow when I flip town.

[Rena]

Desp, why not vote for Sean today?

Because everything Rena has said today has d fake/like she isn't reading the thread, despite her having an extremely powerful role that entirely depends on her ability to read the game and predict the scum's behavior. Her posts don't give any indication that she's capable of that, or even interested in doing so...which means she's faking it.

A role is only as good as the player. This player has no clue how to play this role, so she's playing it as vanilla. As I have said already.

[Rena]

On my phone.

Hey Baezu. Do you have boobs?
By any chance are you laid on my sofa with my puppy asleep on your stomach?
Do you have a shittonne of butterfingers on the floor beside you?

Cause I have all three. Unless I am mistaken, you are not me. I play how I want to play and if that means using a vanilla meta rather than a PR meta, so be it. I think in around the 200 games Ive played on site, I have drawn town PR about 3 times, none recent.

Also, I'm not a newbie.

Desp, why not vote for Sean today?

Because everything Rena has said today has d fake/like she isn't reading the thread, despite her having an extremely powerful role that entirely depends on her ability to read the game and predict the scum's behavior. Her posts don't give any indication that she's capable of that, or even interested in doing so...which means she's faking it.

A role is only as good as the player. This player has no clue how to play this role, so she's playing it as vanilla. As I have said already.

Okay, I'm convinced. This is definitely coming from scum! I'm new too. I don't know how to play half the time either, but at least I don't play my PRs as VT. That's the point of having a PR. and it's fun to use your abilities. If you can't see that - you must not be a PR.

VOTE: Rena

[Rena]

Scrap the first question.

You do have boobs.

[Rena]

VOTE: Seanald

Why are you sheeping Nacho when you've been trying to lynch me for yonks?

[Rena]

UNVOTE VOTE SEANALD

I don't believe you.

[Rena]

awwww I LIKE HAMMERING.