Mini 1463 (it has shitty jokes) over

[Kid A]

omgus notthepope
VOTE: notthepope

[Kid A]

Let's get this day moving.

VOTE: NotThePope

And how exactly does this vote get the day moving along? Yes, bandwagons can move the day along, but not just because they exist. You simply jumped onto the bandwagon and did nothing to actually get the game moving. Furthermore, the whole bandwagon on notthepope is stupid because he's most likely town.

VOTE: Bub Bidderskins

[Kid A]

wtf why'd we change our vote how is RC town wtf are you doing


VOTE: Radiant Cowbells

scum hydrae often wrestle with votes because they are both paranoid about being vcad and because their votes are never truly genuine

VOTE: notthepope

[Kid A]

scum hydrae

often

wrestle with votes because they are both paranoid about being vcad and because their votes are never truly genuine

VOTE: notthepope

Good to know. Glad to see not having the same initial reads as hydra partners=scum, because that makes sense.

seeing a lot of discrediting here but not a lot of explanation for the vote wrestling

[Kid A]

My apologies but I have had to skim on the phone. Will catch up on it all when I have more time.

But still no response to my question, what's all the stuff in brackets on notthepope's name?

notthepope is a hydra so there are 2 different people sharing 1 account to play this game

[Kid A]

he can explain why they are both very quick to change the vote without waiting to consult each other first

[Kid A]

My apologies but I have had to skim on the phone. Will catch up on it all when I have more time.

But still no response to my question, what's all the stuff in brackets on notthepope's name?

notthepope is a hydra so there are 2 different people sharing 1 account to play this game

And this is fair in mafia how?

How do you read a player displaying two separate metas?

just gotta look at how the two heads play and respond to each other and figure out if they have town or mafia motivation

Personally I don't think it made sense for them to vote wrestle when they weren't in danger of lynching someone and I also don't like how one of them keeps townreading everyone who pushes on them

[Kid A]

i disagree with the people above me levio just told us they were voting the largest wagon over their scumread because ntp hasnt omgused absta

imo this is an attempt to look town because levio expects ntp to flip town and they dont want to look like they pushed a mislynch

VOTE: levio

[Kid A]

yeah but if we assume levio is scum being on the wagon is still beneficial to mafia and i really cant see any town motivation for voting the person who isnt your scumread

if ntp flipped mafia i would still be worried about levio voting mafia even though they think absta is the mafia, it would give me the impression that levio has more information than us

[Kid A]

where did twmblwbsj go

radiantcowbells you keep bwing people with little to no reasoning & not making your own cases, IMO you are trying to be unassuming but the lack of good content makes you stick out as scum to me
VOTE: radiantcowbells

[Kid A]

unvote

absta you know that first FoS was a joke right? i still haven't seen confirmation that you read my post correctly.

also, i don't like jumping to someone before RVS really ends, especially early, since wagons jump out pretty fast (notthepope is at L-2 right now, so a vote by me would have put him at L-1 before i got back to the computer!) and i want to see reactions to my initial points that were made. looking at how people have jumped on notthepope so fast and how empty some of the posts have been as far as reasoning goes, i feel as though there are definitely scum motions behind this wagon and i'm not sure if i'm willing to back it

just

yet, although i have not ruled out an impromptu d1 bus for sure.

upon looking at the latest votecount, i realize my statements on the wagon of notthepope were not accurate. i seem to have misread how often he was voted. because of this, i will look back and consider voting him shortly

what happened to this

give me a full read on ntp pls

[Kid A]

VOTE: Kid A

ISO sucks elephant dick, voted me with shitty backing.

someone is riled :c

[Kid A]

where did twmblwbsj go

radiantcowbells you keep bwing people with little to no reasoning & not making your own cases, IMO you are trying to be unassuming but the lack of good content makes you stick out as scum to me
VOTE: radiantcowbells

Let's get this day moving.

VOTE: NotThePope

where did twmblwbsj go

radiantcowbells you keep bwing people with little to no reasoning & not making your own cases, IMO you are trying to be unassuming but the lack of good content makes you stick out as scum to me
VOTE: radiantcowbells

spot the difference

[Kid A]

oops i quoted it twice so now its spot the odd one out

[Kid A]

unvote

absta you know that first FoS was a joke right? i still haven't seen confirmation that you read my post correctly.

also, i don't like jumping to someone before RVS really ends, especially early, since wagons jump out pretty fast (notthepope is at L-2 right now, so a vote by me would have put him at L-1 before i got back to the computer!) and i want to see reactions to my initial points that were made. looking at how people have jumped on notthepope so fast and how empty some of the posts have been as far as reasoning goes, i feel as though there are definitely scum motions behind this wagon and i'm not sure if i'm willing to back it

just

yet, although i have not ruled out an impromptu d1 bus for sure.

upon looking at the latest votecount, i realize my statements on the wagon of notthepope were not accurate. i seem to have misread how often he was voted. because of this, i will look back and consider voting him shortly

what happened to this

give me a full read on ntp pls

bub happened. also, why don't you give me a full read on ANYONE? i've said a fair amount about NTP, as have a lot of people. i don't see what you gain (other than a pass for being lazy) by me making a full case on someone i'm not even voting for. you've said basically nothing all game. i'll listen to your demands when you actually contribute, thank you very much

post your fucking read on him or you are being anti town

[Kid A]

sorry, posted early again

i also feel as though a few people are jumping on the recent Smudger thing pretty hard *coughbubcough*; almost looks like scum trying to jump off a wagon on one of their buddies at just the right time, if you know what i mean. i also don't like yessiree's 122, as he basically piggybacks smudger's points completely.

am I missing something or did something get lost in the crash, the recent Smudger thing, what is that and what are you actually suggesting?

didn't like two or three people vote you/attack in a row or something? i coulda sworn that happened.

the forth one?

<snip>

This is exactly the kind of reactive/defensive argument that I would expect from scum. My vote is confirmed.

and this is exactly the large yet contentless post i would expect from scum. christ, how have more people not voted this guy yet???

VOTE: Kid A

ISO sucks elephant dick, voted me with shitty backing.

Care to explain why his ISO sucks?

even though i'm voting you, i can't help but second this. instead of saying his ISO sucks, you (RadiantCowbells, in case it is not clear) should do one of him (shouldn't be hard at this point) and show us why.

I never cleared you on experience. I was analysing the stupid insta clear of bub without reasons attached, and an arogant experienced player such as yourself would do that sort if thing and assume that's fine. Or would I be wrong there and you are indeed scum white knighting or getting a teammate town credit?

i don't know what to make of this post or of Generic in general.

@Alabaska

absta, did you realize my initial FoS was a joke? why the immediate jump off of me after you posted so urgently to get more votes on me around page 3?

No I didn't recognise the un-seriousness of your FoS.
I wanted more votes on you for pressure iirc.

seems a bit early for pressure, but that is common enough around here it satisfies me. thanks for the clarification.

Why wouldn't you vote NTP here? FoSs' are useless imo. A vote would've created real pressure and possibly some reactions that we could've worked with. The FoS seems to be more useful for scum that want to see how people react to their suspicions on someone.

Do you FoS a lot in your other games? Do you do it as scum as well?

i think i already addressed this, but it was a bit early for a vote in my opinion. i didn't feel ready to put one down; i wanted to make sure he answered me though.

doesnt this contradict the post i quoted

[Kid A]

VOTE: alabaska j

[Kid A]

lynching ntp will give us the most information imo
VOTE: notthepopeVOTE:

[Kid A]

VOTE: notthepope

[Kid A]

i think more people need to vote ntp

[Kid A]

im not a radiohead fanboi i only like kid a and amnesiac :c

[Kid A]

btw most of you case seems to imply my play revolved around you when in fact your play was frankly forgettable and you managed to completely slip under my radar until i went back and reread and noticed you hadnt posted much at all

i think i even mention tmbekwuwad8 being missing in the same post

also you failed to note that i unvoted alabaska j after he went v/la which is a bit shitty of you :c

[Kid A]

yeah i cant remember much of your name except the tm

[Kid A]

content with notthepope or notthepope today

[Kid A]

Hey, we do have a QT, and we discuss reads, but we are really dissonant
Silly NS

content with notthepope or notthepope today

YOU HAVEN'T ANSWERED THE FUCKING QUESTION YOU SCUMFUCK

why would i tell your scumbuddies who i have relational tells on :/

[Kid A]

i already told you in nonspecific terms :c

[Kid A]

:'c

[Kid A]

anyone else starting to feel omnom and yessiree could be a team?

[Kid A]

maybe tomorrow if i dont die

[Kid A]

well with a wagon this quick i _must_ be mafia :/

[Kid A]

Smudger is still scummy btw, but that catch by cowbells is massive. Kid A reveals that he knows that NTP is town by saying levio expects him to flip, but then he still wants to get onto the hot NTP wagon. That is such a massive scumslip. Cowbells is conf. town. Kid A is conf. scum.

Lynch him now. I will not be happy with any other lynch today.

this is the misreppiest misrep to ever misrep

a suggestion that levio could be mafia expecting ntp to flip town is miles away from "Kid A reveals that he knows that NTP is town by saying levio expects him to flip"

using words like scumslip and conf inappropriately might make you think your case looks really good but it entirely hinges on something you made up :c

[Kid A]

if ntp flipped mafia i would still be worried about levio voting mafia even though they think absta is the mafia, it would give me the impression that levio has more information than us

further evidence that bub bidderskins is being dense :c

[Kid A]

the ntp lynch was originally to test my associative read between him and alabaska j

i changed my mind since then and now its probably ntp/om/yes

seriously what are these reactions??

lynching ntp will give us the most information imo
VOTE: notthepopeVOTE:

What information would you get?

Damnit DCL, I was going to ask that.

Take a townpoint or two.

basically a shitpost with buddying thrown in

Yo I think someone is scum
And I'm so certain that person is scum
But I won't use my vote to try to win the game lulz


^ Generic in his prime

lynching ntp will give us the most information imo

Alright
I've tried to be calm
Rational
And serene
So answer this right and I won't drop a fucking brick on your balls
What information will you gain?

reaction is bad because its like 2 posts later and it wasnt even like id posted something antagonizing
no need to lose your shit this badly over 1 vote

Yeah TMT, it was notsci.

Anyone else feel like Kid A is just setting a vote down and riding the currents?

Content with him/Generic dead today.

Hey, we do have a QT, and we discuss reads, but we are really dissonant
Silly NS

content with notthepope or notthepope today

YOU HAVEN'T ANSWERED THE FUCKING QUESTION YOU SCUMFUCK

seriously why is he so hung up on my vote??

I'm sorry NS, but Kid A needs a vote up his butt
VOTE: Kid A

why

[Kid A]

Kid A your scum reads suck chodes

we will see yessiree

[Kid A]

Smudger is still scummy btw, but that catch by cowbells is massive. Kid A reveals that he knows that NTP is town by saying levio expects him to flip, but then he still wants to get onto the hot NTP wagon. That is such a massive scumslip. Cowbells is conf. town. Kid A is conf. scum.

Lynch him now. I will not be happy with any other lynch today.

this is the misreppiest misrep to ever misrep

a suggestion that levio could be mafia expecting ntp to flip town is miles away from "Kid A reveals that he knows that NTP is town by saying levio expects him to flip"

using words like scumslip and conf inappropriately might make you think your case looks really good but it entirely hinges on something you made up :c

I didn't make this up, I'm just sheeping cowbells here. And your futile defense make you look even more scummy.

i have posted quotes that directly contradict your case on me you lil bitch

[Kid A]

i still would really like an explained read on ntp please

[Kid A]

anyone got an ice pack

[Kid A]

I found kid A suspicious initially when he made his "NTP is the most informative lynch post"
I then questioned him about it.
While I was waiting for an answer om decided to act scummy so I voted him.
Kid A refused to answer my question, which I found very scummy and I put my vote on him.

why is that even scummy if i was scum i would be answering these questions so everyone townreads me (ntp)
i do not think any of u are too dumb to see a reaction test on a scumread so theres obviously a couple of naughty mafias on my wagon rn

[Kid A]

also policy lynch bub if he stays on me until im lynched after i completely refuted him case on me

thx

[Kid A]

nop it was town bullshit

[Kid A]

btw a bit more in depth talk about om/yessiree/ntp theory SOON

[Kid A]

The NTP wagon is stupid and you should feel bad for being on it.

why have you been defending ntp constantly w/ no reasoning

[Kid A]

he's clearly one of the most pro-town players in the game.

Scuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum

ok bub

[Kid A]

Smudger it is time to become a hero

[Kid A]

you need to change your vote to accomplish that

[Kid A]

no i didnt you fucking moron you are clearing someone based on a misquote of a quote that you took out of context in the first place

[Kid A]

My weekend and will not be active until Sunday. I see the L-1 and as stated have an intention to vote NTP, but will hold so I can read back
Before I vote and who for

Welcome Mutley

I see the L-1 and as stated have an intention to vote NTP

I see the L-1 and as stated have an intention to vote NTP

[Kid A]

he obviously wants you to claim because otherwise he wouldn't have claimed intent right after you said you werent going to claim until someone claimed intent

so claim

pls

thx

[Kid A]

hey dclxvi what do you think of bub biddleskins

[Kid A]

a supersaint bomb or a night bomb?

[Kid A]

anyone up for lynching bub biddlekins tomorrow?

[Kid A]

Generic, are you implying that you know that NTP will flip town? Because that is what it sounds. You are already setting up a lynch based off his town-flip.

delicious irony

[Kid A]

at least i know im not getting nked any time soon

[Kid A]

we arent lynching anyone until ntp says what type of bomb he is

[Kid A]

2) DCLXVI died. In general, town logic would be to look at the people not on the wagon on scum to scumhunt (which would be wrong, because I suspect both of the other scum were on the NTP wagon), and yet he died on the Kid A wagon. In terms of killing momentum for the Kid A wagon, that was the best decision; he was pushing harder than Yesiree, but unlike me or Bub, wouldn't necessary draw increased attention to the Kid A wagon.
3) Targeting DCL suggests that scum don't want to narrow down the choices on the NTP wagon, which again suggests that the scum were on there.

that fucking confirmation bias

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Bodyguard

A Bodyguard is a role who can target a player at Night to protect them. However, if the protected player is supposed to be killed, the Bodyguard is killed instead ("taking the bullet" for them, as it were).

use brain pls

[Kid A]

also lets try a bit of VOTE: yessiree

[Kid A]

l
o
l

[Kid A]

also note the chainsaw defence of his partner om of the nom who helped the town by hard bussing for the full day

[Kid A]

anyone else starting to feel omnom and yessiree could be a team?

well hey i have bigger fish to fry in NTP but if you want to join me on yesiree then i'll gladly follow

any chance of u following up on this

[Kid A]

anyone else starting to feel omnom and yessiree could be a team?

well hey i have bigger fish to fry in NTP but if you want to join me on yesiree then i'll gladly follow

any chance of u following up on this

So you suspect both of us, and is making one vote the other.
MAKES SENSE

yeah man its almost as if i want to see if om of the nom will try and wiggle out of voting their last partner??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[Kid A]

I strongly believe that all scum are on the NTP wagon.

ok at this point anyone who was considering sheeping RC needs to re evaluate

[Kid A]

Yeah, okay Generic.

1

What I stand by is that the people on it earned major scumpoints, which is logical if you take into consideration that I believe all the scum are on that wagon.

2

I was never totally averse to the idea of a NTP lynch. I would have most likely voted him up day 2 after Kid A flipped scum.

1) you are going to have to quote some examples of scummy ppl being on the ntp wagon and saying scummy things (some of them have to be not me)

2) if you were happy with a lynch on the person at l-1 why didnt you claim intent??

[Kid A]

yeah rcs case consists of examples of me scumhunting and omits loads of context to make me look scummy its a good read

[Kid A]

but why wouldnt he take the extra nk??

[Kid A]

Kid A seemed town to me on day 1, the main points against him ft like a misrep of his posts. Kid A I would like your reads on other players please too.

yessiree* - evil mafia
Generic - not evil
Mutleyddmc (replaced levio*) - idunno im working on this one replacements screw me up
Kid A - evil mafia
DCLXVI** - evil mafia
Bub Bidderskins* - ??????? mystery
Alabaska J - not evil
NotThePope* (hydra of notscience and TheIrishPope) - town as fuck
TMTOLBTWNTOF**** - hes made like 2 posts idk
Smudger - not evil
RadiantCowbells**** - probably not evil idk if his dumbtell was intentional
Alduskkel (replaced absta101*) - not evil
Om of the Nom* (replaced Kingsrush) - maybe evil

[Kid A]

also if you want me to go in depth on some i can do that ok

[Kid A]

Kid A is frustrated because his plan to bus NTP didn't clear him

if i get lynched i want everyone to remember this post ok

[Kid A]

why im voting my townread - by yessiree

[Kid A]

In post #624 yessiree votes for bub.
Posts #627, and #628... Yessiree is talking of bub as town.

Am I missing something here?

the only thing youre missing is a vote on this guy

seriously he just wrote a paragraph about why he townreads bub and then voted him

[Kid A]

The only defense I have is pure WIFOM:

Why would I, as scum, defend NTP so hard for so long? Wouldn't that be flagrant?

Of course, that's pure WIFOM, lynch me if you will.

Getting really bad vibes from this and I haven't liked anything else he's posted today.

VOTE: Bub Bidderskins

please stop making me doubt my townread on you

[Kid A]

Generic

what I'm saying is that you can't use what Bub did on DAY 1 as your scumtell

because it's NOT

(because it incriminates yessiree too for doing the same thing)

[Kid A]

HEY WASSUP KID A?

DID YOU MAKE A BULLSHIT CLAIM

AND THEN RAN AWAY LIKE A LITTLE BITCH WITH TAILS BETWEEN LEGS?

YEAH YOU KEEP DOING THAT

pop quiz : what was the alignment of the last person who lost their shit over my one vote on them

[Kid A]

scum hydrae

often

wrestle with votes because they are both paranoid about being vcad and because their votes are never truly genuine

VOTE: notthepope

Good to know. Glad to see not having the same initial reads as hydra partners=scum, because that makes sense.

seeing a lot of discrediting here but not a lot of explanation for the vote wrestling

how the fuck do you explain a vote you didn't even place LMfuckingAO

also, do I sense a little bit of diving here?

[Kid A]

its almost like youve fencesat all game and never given any strong opinions so that you can call scumreads on you weak

but that would be ridiculous right ?????

[Kid A]

I still think Kid A is scum.

Bub's posts today have been literally awful however and that coupled with hard pushing the wagon off of NTP leads me to believe he is a great lynch.

I'll see what Bub flips and then go from there on Kid A.

this genuinely reads as i think bub is an easier mislynch than kid a right now

stop it why did you dumbtell

[Kid A]

VOTE: bub bidderskins

Cos prod dodge

good work mutleyddmc

[Kid A]

you are aware you hammered a guy who didnt even get to claim rite

[Kid A]

vote bub bidderskins

That's L-1 guys, so be very aware of the next vote being the hammer. Intent only for now.

[Kid A]

sorry i am not lying

[Kid A]

why are you so quick to rule out mutley being shitty ass scum

[Kid A]

thats because yessiree is a scumfuck

VOTE: yessiree

[Kid A]

oops i didnt see the new page

Confusing. Everyone not on NTP's wagon aside from NTP has flipped town except yessiree. And Smudger is still debatable if he counts as being on the NTP wagon.

[Kid A]

fun facts: p much everyone who isnt me townreads om the nom
fun facts (2): om the nom isnt dead despite being townread by everyone except me
fun facts (3): the only reason to keep this person alive is if they think i will be able to push a lynch on them OR if they townread the mafia
fun facts (4): om of the nom isnt outing many reads so the latter is shit
fun facts (5): what are the chances of me pushing a lynch im lazy as fuck
fun facts (6): om the nom is mafia with yessiree

[Kid A]

fun facts (7): stop lynching smudger

[Kid A]

Let's ignore the case on Smudger atm and continue to tunnel yessiree because that's the pro-town thing to do

also if he likes the case on smudger why isnt he putting his vote on smudger????

[Kid A]

the way you phrased the post i quoted made it sound like voting smudger was pro town

[Kid A]

i already analysed that the case was made by a mafia

[Kid A]

i cant prove anything because this isnt an open setup

[Kid A]

VOTE: smudger

inb4 mutley

[Kid A]

thats l-1 btw

[Kid A]

stop that

[Kid A]

seriously how fucking dumb do you have to be

[Kid A]

ok but a tip for the future: never do that

[Kid A]

See, I'm doubting the claim for the simple fact I'm town neighbouriser.

And would town get 4 PRs?

who are neighbours

if you townread me why am i nkt neighboured

[Kid A]

btw one of my scumreads was scum so everyone that didnt sheep me is a shit

[Kid A]

VOTE: mutley

only one scum in yes/om and i townread ala and gen

[Kid A]

btw smudger self hammered

[Kid A]

wait actually if yessiree is scum hes already voting om so

VOTE: om of the nom

[Kid A]

no because you committed the most obvious bus ever d1

[Kid A]

also 4 prs includes one even night and one 1 shot ability

[Kid A]

neighbouriser isnt op because they can neighbourise mafia

[Kid A]

also the vigilante meant the gs was less powerful than they seem

[Kid A]

actually nling seems like a p good idea right now

[Kid A]

VOTE: no lynch

[Kid A]

neighbour me btw im gr8

[Kid A]

seriously seeing what om says could be the different between a win and lose

[Kid A]

generic can neighbour me the same night right

and how is om conf scum??

[Kid A]

i was 2/3

VOTE: om the nom

[Kid A]

I townread the fuck out of generic

well deserved win

[Kid A]

also sorry for being a bit harsh smudger but i had no intention of keeping my vote on you, i just wanted to see everyone's reaction to you being at l-1, so your selfhammer really frustrated me