NY 164: Maniacal Street Mafia (Anticlimatically finished.)

ffullisade · Post Post #4275 (ISO) » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:15 am

In post 4273, Desperado wrote:
In post 4271, ArcAngel9 wrote:^ don't worry sweets, Despo is a retard!!!!
Why are you telling her not to worry when I wasn't even talking to her when I said that?

And why am I retard?

You're not a retard.

AA, we're liking Despo for town.

- f

Amethyst Kitty · Post Post #4276 (ISO) » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:17 am

Fery can you point Mollie in my direction and ask her to ISO me. I want her to read something - she'll see it when she ISO's us.

AA:

explain why Cephrir and Bulba please?

I can maybe see both Despo/Seanald.

ArcAngel9 · Post Post #4277 (ISO) » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:19 am

In post 4276, Amethyst Kitty wrote:explain why Cephrir and Bulba please?

Bulba i said a while ago
Cephrir i did say why i think he may be scum. ISO me Mara, if you don't see it, then ask me again.!!

And you already know what I read DESPO

Fferyl, Explain how Despo is town, what is that he did is very town??

Amethyst Kitty · Post Post #4278 (ISO) » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:20 am

It's Mala and in a second if I have time.

Do you think FF/Mollie hydra is town, btw?

penguin_alien · Post Post #4279 (ISO) » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:22 am

ArcAngel9, what changed from here:

In post 4154, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 4133, Desperado wrote:
Vote: Amethyst Kitty
AK is not dying today.. Seanald is today's lynch!!!
Stop pushing counter wagons!!!!!!!!

to here:

In post 4269, ArcAngel9 wrote:I strongly recommend peop0le to lynch in the below order....

Cephrir
Desperado
Seanald
Bulb

I bet this will work!!!!

penguin_alien · Post Post #4280 (ISO) » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:30 am

In post 4089, Human Destroyer wrote:
In post 4078, mastin2 wrote:Fun fact: The last time there was a crash that resulted in data loss, I was also modding a game. Is this a sign from above, that I should never mod again? Heck no! It's merely a sign of how awesome my games are; they're so volatile, the site crashes trying to handle them!
I love you sometimes.

<<< Only
some
times? >>>

Not sure I'm particularly interested in the Seanald wagon, but I'll freely admit I haven't read due to lack of time.

Someone want to explain/quote a post explaining?

Thoughts on Seanald over ThAdmiral if you've seen more about that argument?

ArcAngel9 · Post Post #4281 (ISO) » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:39 am

apparently Seanald wagon is dying. And am not liking the Nero's wagon
and more over my scum readon Cephrir is stronger than Seanald's.

PeregrineV · Post Post #4282 (ISO) » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:40 am

In post 1410, thezmon221 wrote:I AM CAUGHT UP

Well, actually, I skipped 5-10 pages somewhere around 30 and 35, but I was able to get back in the loop. Sorry if you're disappointed with that, but I'm tired as hell from both school and reading these last 57 pages.

So, without further ado, here are my reads*:

TOWN:
[ArcAngel, ffulisade, Slandaar,
DLG
, Bulbazak, Amethyst Kitty, Nero Cain, CrashTextDummie,
Red Ryu
, Bacde]

NULL:
[Seanald, Kublai Khan, Desperado,
Syryana
, Nachomomma8, Cephrir]

MAFIA:
[Rena,
Oversoul, EddieFenix, Thor665
, Om The Destroyer, penguin_alien,
ThAd
]

*The order of the players is in no way indicative of the strength of my reads.

So, I'll now elaborate on reads that people want elaboration on, but I'm not going to elaborate on everything purely because there are 24 players I have to read and it's even more work and I'm tired.

Here's some notes from the pad of Thez:
--For the longest time I had Nacho penned as scum, and almost jumped onto his wagon for mainly the whole Oversould fiasco. However, his bout with the reads and wanting to lynch Desperado turned my head and convinced me that he might not be who he says he is. It is notable that every single person on that wagon I have as town
Nachomamma8 - 7 (
Red Ryu
, Bacde, Nero Cain, Amethyst Kitty, Slandaar, Desperado, ffulisade)(Desperado is null).

--Bacde is so obviously town right now, so if you think he's scum you should probably quit this game. BatB is pretty town too.
--Baby Spice is strangely very lurky. Also not quite so... worried. For lack of a better word/phrase.

Oh, and I felt I should address this:
In post 1371, Hanzo_5 wrote:
@Thezmon

Your reasonless list is nothing but filler. To paraphrase you, you said "Hey im here and im doing stuff, Im not done yet so it looks like im not doing anything".

Im bringing this to light because I see it as fluff and everyone else should too.

I dont know why your fluffy. But I dont care for it. Your life no linger matters to me. Plz fix that.
It's too bad I don't care. Maybe you should try putting something non-fluff yourself instead of calling out other fluff. My post had more content than yours. Your recent posts don't do much justice for you IME either.

Alright, so now I'm going to wrap up this post with this:
VOTE: fuzzy

I don't like your overall mentality with the game at this point. You've been really dodgy this game. I don't find any value in any of your posts. Your reads are safer than OS's information was. Gut read? Really. Develop something. Try. Have AP Exams? Cool story bro, so do I. In fact, I have an exam on Thursday. You don't see me dodging the game and making useless third-party comments.

I feel fuzzy's gone unnoticed, and you should all notice him through my post. Cephrir's confrontation with him was a start. Oh, and I want a reads list from him too.

ffullisade · Post Post #4283 (ISO) » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:02 am

In post 4277, ArcAngel9 wrote:Fferyl, Explain how Despo is town, what is that he did is very town??

The origins of the town read are with Mollie, prior to my replacing in. She pointed out that when under pressure on day 1 he townflailed. I skimmed that part of the thread and agreed. In the time since I replaced in, I can't point to anything he's posted that doesn't appear to be town-motivated.

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mastin2 · Post Post #4284 (ISO) » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:03 am

I leave for lu--oh, I already made that joke.

One-Hundredth Votecount

:

(Thirty-Third Votecount of Day Three,

AKA, the "Averaging 33 votecounts a gameday and counting" votecount.

)

Nero Cain - 6 (Nachomamma8, CrashTextDummie, Desperado, Bacde, ffullisade, Cephrir)

Seanald - 4 (PeregrineV, ArcAngel9, ThAdmiral, penguin_alien)

Amethyst Kitty - 1 (Kublai Khan)
ThAdmiral - 1 (Human Destroyer)
Bacde - 1 (Rena)
Kublai Khan - 1 (Amethyst Kitty)
Rena - 1 (Slandaar)
Bulbazak - 1 (Nero Cain)

Not Voting - 2 (Seanald, Bulbazak)

With

18

alive, it's

10

to lynch.

Day Three's deadline is Friday, July 5th, @ 12:30 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-07-05 12:30:00).

If deadline were to hit now,

Nero Cain

would be lynched.

Bulbazak is V/LA over weekends indefinitely.
mastin2, the moderator, is V/LA for...a while.

Spoiler: Changes from last votecount

Last votecount was page 171, post 4250.

Spoiler: Player Votecount History D3

Spoiler: Votecount History D3

ffullisade · Post Post #4285 (ISO) » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:04 am

In post 4276, Amethyst Kitty wrote:Fery can you point Mollie in my direction and ask her to ISO me. I want her to read something - she'll see it when she ISO's us.

When I see her online again, I will. I also want her thoughts on Nero's postings since his wagon started up.

PeregrineV · Post Post #4286 (ISO) » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:14 am

My thoughts from the vote history:
Red Ryu was either killed because Red Mafia was looking to kill Blue Mafia, or Red Mafia wanted to get rid of a strong townie.
The fact that his wagon got to 6(?) votes at one point means he couldn't have been too townie, so he was probably killed while being scumhunted by Red Mafia.

Since I think that rather than waste thier kill on the Blue mafia team if they can help it, Red Mafia would first try, in some way shape or form, to lynch Blue mafia if they can.

This means, common sense-wise, one of the following is

Red Mafia

:
Bulbazak
penguin_alien
Kublai Khan
Human Destroyer
ArcAngel9

Amethyst Kitty · Post Post #4287 (ISO) » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:16 am

Peng:

Are you town?

ArcAngel9 · Post Post #4288 (ISO) » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:17 am

In post 4283, ffullisade wrote:
In post 4277, ArcAngel9 wrote:Fferyl, Explain how Despo is town, what is that he did is very town??
The origins of the town read are with Mollie, prior to my replacing in. She pointed out that when under pressure on day 1 he townflailed. I skimmed that part of the thread and agreed. In the time since I replaced in, I can't point to anything he's posted that doesn't appear to be town-motivated.

- f

Point taken but i want to hear mollie thoughts as well on Despo.
Btw, why do you think Nero is scum. I know Nero and this is his town play. And whats your hydra thoughts on me?

And PV, whats wrong with you? Why are you calling me "Red Mafia"?

PeregrineV · Post Post #4289 (ISO) » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:20 am

Second thoughts from Thez posting + votecount:

Thez enters the thread with vote on teammate Red Ryu.

His "reads" list has the vote leader Nacho as a "null" read, and Nacho's wagon 90% "town", so then proceeds to move his vote to Rena, for their "mentality".

Part of my brain says if Nacho were town (or not-Blue-Mafia), then why not increase that wagon at that point? Voting someone for being null, especially when they are the lead wagon and it's full of your "town" reads is acceptable. The fact he did not take advantage of a "strong town" wagon on Nacho makes me suspect Nacho more.

PeregrineV · Post Post #4290 (ISO) » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:22 am

In post 4288, ArcAngel9 wrote:And PV, whats wrong with you? Why are you calling me "Red Mafia"?

I'm not, yet.

I'm thinking that at least one red mafia tried to lynch Red Ryu before they decided that night to shoot him.

You voted him day1, and are still alive, so are on the list for now.

ffullisade · Post Post #4291 (ISO) » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:28 am

In post 4288, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 4283, ffullisade wrote:
In post 4277, ArcAngel9 wrote:Fferyl, Explain how Despo is town, what is that he did is very town??
The origins of the town read are with Mollie, prior to my replacing in. She pointed out that when under pressure on day 1 he townflailed. I skimmed that part of the thread and agreed. In the time since I replaced in, I can't point to anything he's posted that doesn't appear to be town-motivated.

- f
Point taken but i want to hear mollie thoughts as well on Despo.
Btw, why do you think Nero is scum. I know Nero and this is his town play. And whats your hydra thoughts on me?

And PV, whats wrong with you? Why are you calling me "Red Mafia"?

I thought Nacho's case made a lot of sense, and I was serious when I said that the post gave me an unequivcal town-motivated impression of Nacho. However, Nero's reaction to the case and the wagon doesn't look all that scummy. I wish I had more game experience with him than I do. From what I've seen, his gameplay as town has attributes that I identify as scummy, so I have to get past that over and over again.

Mollie was leaning scum on you mostly (I think) due to your low level of participation. I've been hardcore fencesitting with respect to you because although I can see why she thinks that, I feel like I finally got a basis for reading you in the buzzword bingo game and I'd lean town without her input. At some point we'll need to hash it out and get on the same page.

Human Destroyer · Post Post #4292 (ISO) » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:53 am

In post 4280, penguin_alien wrote:
In post 4089, Human Destroyer wrote:
In post 4078, mastin2 wrote:Fun fact: The last time there was a crash that resulted in data loss, I was also modding a game. Is this a sign from above, that I should never mod again? Heck no! It's merely a sign of how awesome my games are; they're so volatile, the site crashes trying to handle them!
I love you sometimes.

<<< Only
some
times? >>>

Not sure I'm particularly interested in the Seanald wagon, but I'll freely admit I haven't read due to lack of time.

Someone want to explain/quote a post explaining?
Thoughts on Seanald over ThAdmiral if you've seen more about that argument?

I wouldn't cry if he was lynched, and I'll compromise to him if necessary. ThAd is still a better lynch though.

(No Mastin, all the time

)

<<< <3 >>>

Human Destroyer · Post Post #4293 (ISO) » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:55 am

In post 4286, PeregrineV wrote:My thoughts from the vote history:
Red Ryu was either killed because Red Mafia was looking to kill Blue Mafia, or Red Mafia wanted to get rid of a strong townie.
The fact that his wagon got to 6(?) votes at one point means he couldn't have been too townie, so he was probably killed while being scumhunted by Red Mafia.

Since I think that rather than waste thier kill on the Blue mafia team if they can help it, Red Mafia would first try, in some way shape or form, to lynch Blue mafia if they can.

This means, common sense-wise, one of the following is
Red Mafia
:
Bulbazak
penguin_alien
Kublai Khan
Human Destroyer
ArcAngel9

Why these 5?

Desperado · Post Post #4294 (ISO) » Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:05 am

He already said because those are the 5 that are still alive and were on the Ryu wagon early.

Peregrine, I still don't understand how ActionDan and DLG had such a conversation pre-game that was so convincing that Thad is now so town that you're coloring him in as Green. He's the only person (other than yourself) who isn't dead to get that distinction.

Can you talk about this some more?

<<< Double-post deleted. It seems I'm dealing with these once or twice a page, now. :/ >>>

Rena · Post Post #4295 (ISO) » Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:08 am

Two seconds. Doing mod stuff.

Slandaar · Post Post #4296 (ISO) » Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:13 am

In post 4227, Bulbazak wrote:
In post 4127, Slandaar wrote:Bulba is scum yes, he doesn't do anything, he posts a lot but he doesn't achieve anything with them; he posts and posts and what is the best argument he has made? 'You can't think a scumread has confirmation Bias'

Tell me one thing he has done other than that, you can't, hes scum.
This case is weak and is evidence that you are not reading the game.

Oh? Do answer my question then if my case is so weak; what have you done?

Perhaps I missed all the scumhunting you have been doing. How can one write so many walls and achieve so little with them?

ArcAngel9 · Post Post #4297 (ISO) » Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:16 am

In post 4290, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 4288, ArcAngel9 wrote:And PV, whats wrong with you? Why are you calling me "Red Mafia"?
I'm not, yet.

I'm thinking that at least one red mafia tried to lynch Red Ryu before they decided that night to shoot him.

You voted him day1, and are still alive, so are on the list for now.

Huh!!!
How many games you played with me PV? like lots, isn't it?
I always survive till lylo... Scum keeps me alive... always, how could you don't see that!!

Rena · Post Post #4298 (ISO) » Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:13 pm

I was about that make that exact same comment, Mastin >.<

Just so everyone knows, I can't defend Fuzzy's actions so I'm not going to bother trying as it would all be speculation.

If Nacho is scum, Bacde isn't his buddy or the other way round. Nacho has made a connection between them too blatant, if Nacho is scum he could be setting Bacde up for a mislynch upon his own death. I don't believe Scum-Nacho is in the habit of making his scumbuddy connections so obvious.

Oh, Nero is doing stuff now he's people think he's scum for being useless.

Unvote

that vote would be useless.

mastin2 · Post Post #4299 (ISO) » Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:29 pm

In post 4298, Rena wrote:
I was about that make that exact same comment, Mastin >.<

...That I'm dealing a lot with double posts?