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Post Post #4175 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:33 am

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Ninety-Sixth Votecount
:
(Twenty-Ninth Votecount of Day Three,
AKA, the "Ugh why is Summer so freaking hot" votecount.
)


Seanald - 5 (PeregrineV, ArcAngel9, Cephrir, ThAdmiral, penguin_alien)

Nero Cain - 5 (Nachomamma8, CrashTextDummie, Desperado, Bacde, Ffullisade)

Amethyst Kitty - 1 (Kublai Khan)
Nachomamma8 - 1 (Nero Cain)

ThAdmiral - 1 (Human Destroyer)
Bacde - 1 (Rena)
Kublai Khan - 1 (Amethyst Kitty)
Rena - 1 (Slandaar)

Not Voting - 2 (Seanald, Bulbazak)

With
18
alive, it's
10
to lynch.

Day Three's deadline is Friday, July 5th, @ 12:30 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-07-05 12:30:00).

If deadline were to hit now,
Seanald
would be lynched.

Bulbazak is V/LA over weekends indefinitely.
mastin2, the moderator, is V/LA for...a while.


Spoiler: Changes from last votecount
Seanald - 5 (PeregrineV, ArcAngel9, Cephrir, ThAdmiral, penguin_alien)
Amethyst Kitty - 3 (Kublai Khan,
ffullisade, Desperado
)
Nachomamma8 - 2 (Nero Cain,
Bacde
)
Nero Cain - 2 (Nachomamma8, CrashTextDummie,
Desperado, Bacde, Ffullisade
)
ThAdmiral - 1 (Human Destroyer)
Bacde - 1 (Rena)
Kublai Khan - 1 (Amethyst Kitty)
Rena - 1 (Slandaar)

Not Voting - 2 (Seanald, Bulbazak)
Last votecount was page 167, post 4150.

Spoiler: Player Votecount History D3
CrashTextDummie: ThAdmiral->Nero Cain
Cephrir: Rena->ThAdmiral->penguin_alien->Amethyst Kitty->Seanald
Nachomamma8: ThAdmiral->Nero Cain->PeregrineV->Slandaar->Amethyst Kitty->ThAdmiral->Nero Cain
PeregrineV: Nachomamma8->Seanald
Nero Cain: Rena->Nachomamma8
Bacde: Nachomamma8->Rena->Nachomamma8->Unvote->ThAdmiral->Seanald->Nachomamma8->Unvote->Nero Cain
Bulbazak: ffullisade->Bacde->Amethyst Kitty->Unvote->Nero Cain->Seanald->Unvote->Nero Cain
Desperado: ThAdmiral->Rena->ThAdmiral->Nero Cain->Amethyst Kitty->ThAdmiral->Seanald->Unvote->Amethyst Kitty
penguin_alien: ThAdmiral->Unvote->ThAdmiral->PeregrineV->Seanald
Slandaar: Amethyst Kitty->Rena->Desperado->ThAdmiral->Amethyst Kitty->PeregrineV->Seanald->Rena
Seanald: Rena->Cephrir->Amethyst Kitty->Unvote
ThAdmiral: Nachomamma8->Seanald
Rena: Bacde
Kublai Khan: Bacde->Amethyst Kitty
Amethyst Kitty: Seanald->Kublai Khan->Desperado->Kublai Khan
ffullisade: Rena->Unvote->Amethyst Kitty->Unvote->Amethyst Kitty->Nero Cain
Human Destroyer: Rena->ThAdmiral
ArcAngel9: Cephrir->Amethyst Kitty->Desperado->Seanald


Spoiler: Votecount History D3
On Mon, Jun 6/10/13 @ 02:30p,
Bacde
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 3367.
On Mon, Jun 6/10/13 @ 02:40p,
Nachomamma8
votes
ThAdmiral
in post 3375.
On Mon, Jun 6/10/13 @ 05:23p,
Nero Cain
votes
Rena
in post 3385.
On Mon, Jun 6/10/13 @ 06:01p,
Nachomamma8
votes
Nero Cain
in post 3388.
On Mon, Jun 6/10/13 @ 11:14p,
Kublai Khan
votes
Bacde
in post 3397.
On Tue, Jun 6/11/13 @ 04:18a,
Slandaar
votes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 3406.
On Tue, Jun 6/11/13 @ 08:55a,
Desperado
votes
ThAdmiral
in post 3417.
On Tue, Jun 6/11/13 @ 12:32p,
Bubazak
votes
ffullisade
in post 3432.
On Tue, Jun 6/11/13 @ 03:04p,
ArcAngel9
votes
Cephrir
in post 3444.
On Tue, Jun 6/11/13 @ 06:46p,
ffullisade
votes
Rena
in post 3462.
On Tue, Jun 6/11/13 @ 09:08p,
Seanald
votes
Rena
in post 3467.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 11:07a,
Desperado
votes
Rena
in post 3489.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 12:41p,
Bacde
votes
Rena
in post 3522.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 01:45p,
Slandaar
votes
Rena
in post 3528.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 02:15p,
Bulbazak
unvotes
ffullisade
and votes
Bacde
in post 3537.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 02:42p,
ffullisade
unvotes
Rena
in post 3543.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 03:04p,
Bacde
unvotes
Rena
and votes
Nachomamma8
in post 3548.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 03:48p,
Nachomamma8
votes
PeregrineV
in post 3584.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 03:49p,
Nachomamma8
votes
Slandaar
in post 3585.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 03:50p,
Nachomamma8
votes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 3586.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 06:07p,
Nero Cain
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 3623.
On Thu, Jun 6/13/13 @ 03:49a,
Slandaar
votes
Desperado
in post 3625.
On Thu, Jun 6/13/13 @ 10:02a,
Human Destroyer
votes
Rena
in post 3633.
On Fri, Jun 6/14/13 @ 10:06a,
Bacde
unvotes
Nachomamma8
in post 3671.
On Fri, Jun 6/14/13 @ 11:16a,
Desperado
unvotes
Rena
and votes
ThAdmiral
in post 3672.
On Fri, Jun 6/14/13 @ 11:30a,
Bacde
votes
ThAdmiral
in post 3673.
On Fri, Jun 6/14/13 @ 12:08p,
Slandaar
votes
ThAdmiral
in post 3678.
On Sat, Jun 6/15/13 @ 06:50a,
Cephrir
votes
ThAdmiral
in post 3711.
On Sat, Jun 6/15/13 @ 10:31p,
Seanald
unvotes
Rena
and votes
Cephrir
in post 3730.
On Sat, Jun 6/15/13 @ 11:17p,
Bacde
votes
Seanald
in post 3731.
On Sat, Jun 6/15/13 @ 11:59p,
Amethyst Kitty
votes
Seanald
in post 3732.
On Sun, Jun 6/16/13 @ 00:18a,
Amethyst Kitty
votes
Kublai Khan
in post 3733.
On Sun, Jun 6/16/13 @ 01:07p,
penguin_alien
votes
ThAdmiral
in post 3740.
On Sun, Jun 6/16/13 @ 03:07p,
Human Destroyer
votes
ThAdmiral
in post 3745.
On Sun, Jun 6/16/13 @ 03:18p,
Nachomamma8
votes
ThAdmiral
in post 3746.
On Sun, Jun 6/16/13 @ 05:10p,
CrashTextDummie
votes
ThAdmiral
in post 3752.
On Sun, Jun 6/16/13 @ 11:05p,
Nachomamma8
unvotes
ThAdmiral
and votes
Nero Cain
in post 3759.
On Sun, Jun 6/16/13 @ 11:28p,
Desperado
unvotes
ThAdmiral
and votes
Nero Cain
in post 3760.
On Mon, Jun 6/17/13 @ 06:02a,
Kublai Khan
votes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 3769.
On Mon, Jun 6/17/13 @ 06:50a,
Slandaar
votes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 3771.
On Mon, Jun 6/17/13 @ 07:28a,
Cephrir
unvotes
ThAdmiral
and votes
penguin_alien
in post 3772.
On Mon, Jun 6/17/13 @ 09:29a,
Bacde
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 3774.
On Mon, Jun 6/17/13 @ 09:53a,
Desperado
unvotes
Nero Cain
and votes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 3777.
On Mon, Jun 6/17/13 @ 11:03a,
Amethyst Kitty
votes
Desperado
in post 3792.
On Mon, Jun 6/17/13 @ 01:54p,
Amethyst Kitty
votes
Kublai Khan
in post 3821.
On Mon, Jun 6/17/13 @ 01:59p,
Bulbazak
unvotes
Bacde
and votes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 3822.
On Tue, Jun 6/18/13 @ 08:37a,
penguin_alien
unvotes
ThAdmiral
in post 3857.
On Tue, Jun 6/18/13 @ 11:53a,
PeregrineV
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 3869.
On Tue, Jun 6/18/13 @ 02:24p,
Cephrir
votes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 3885.
On Tue, Jun 6/18/13 @ 06:39p,
ThAdmiral
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 3900.
On Wed, Jun 6/19/13 @ 11:04a,
ArcAngel9
votes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 3921.
On Wed, Jun 6/19/13 @ 12:05p,
Seanald
unvotes
Cephrir
and votes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 3950.
On Wed, Jun 6/19/13 @ 12:28p,
penguin_alien
votes
ThAdmiral
in post 3962.
On Wed, Jun 6/19/13 @ 12:42p,
ffullisade
unvotes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 3966.
On Wed, Jun 6/19/13 @ 12:50p,
Bulbazak
unvotes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 3967.
On Wed, Jun 6/19/13 @ 02:52p,
Bulbazak
votes
Nero Cain
in post 3977.
On Wed, Jun 6/19/13 @ 04:04p,
ffullisade
votes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 3979.
On Wed, Jun 6/19/13 @ 05:24p,
CrashTextDummie
unvotes
ThAdmiral
and votes
Nero Cain
in post 3989.
On Wed, Jun 6/19/13 @ 07:29p,
Desperado
unvotes
Amethyst Kitty
and votes
ThAdmiral
in post 3991.
On Thu, Jun 6/20/13 @ 03:29a,
ArcAngel9
unvotes
Amethyst Kitty
and votes
Desperado
in post 4015.
On Thu, Jun 6/20/13 @ 04:56a,
Slandaar
votes
PeregrineV
in post 4016.
On Thu, Jun 6/20/13 @ 10:05a,
penguin_alien
unvotes
ThAdmiral
and votes
PeregrineV
in post 4017.
On Thu, Jun 6/20/13 @ 11:22p,
Desperado
unvotes
ThAdmiral
and votes
Seanald
in post 4038.
On Fri, Jun 6/21/13 @ 01:23p,
PeregrineV
votes
Seanald
in post 4056.
On Fri, Jun 6/21/13 @ 02:14p,
Seanald
unvotes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 4059.
On Mon, Jun 6/24/13 @ 03:45a,
Slandaar
votes
ThAdmiral
in post 4066.
On Mon, Jun 6/24/13 @ 08:24a,
ArcAngel9
votes
Seanald
in post 4070.
On Mon, Jun 6/24/13 @ 01:41p,
Bulbazak
unvotes
Nero Cain
and votes
Seanald
in post 4081.
On Mon, Jun 6/24/13 @ 02:02p,
Cephrir
unvotes
Amethyst Kitty
and votes
Seanald
in post 4083.
On Tue, Jun 6/25/13 @ 02:38a,
ThAdmiral
votes
Seanald
in post 4087.
On Tue, Jun 6/25/13 @ 07:02a,
Slandaar
votes
Seanald
in post 4088.
On Tue, Jun 6/25/13 @ 11:52a,
penguin_alien
unvotes
PeregrineV
and votes
Seanald
in post 4091.
On Tue, Jun 6/25/13 @ 04:08p,
Bulbazak
unvotes
Seanald
in post 4104.
On Tue, Jun 6/25/13 @ 04:20p,
Desperado
unvotes
Seanald
in post 4106.
On Wed, Jun 6/26/13 @ 04:17a,
Slandaar
votes
Rena
in post 4126.
On Wed, Jun 6/26/13 @ 10:33a,
Desperado
votes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 4133.
On Wed, Jun 6/26/13 @ 02:41p,
Bacde
unvotes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 4153.
On Wed, Jun 6/26/13 @ 04:19p,
Desperado
votes
Nero Cain
in post 4170.
On Wed, Jun 6/26/13 @ 04:27p,
Bacde
votes
Nero Cain
in post 4171.
On Wed, Jun 6/26/13 @ 04:28p,
Ffullisade
votes
Nero Cain
in post 4172.


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Post Post #4176 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:38 am

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Nope not really readin the thread. I stopped caring a while ago. Mara cares though.
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Post Post #4177 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:39 am

Post by ffullisade »

@despo

fery head here.

The case looks good on the face of it.

I have a feeling that Seanald could wind up mislynched a lot.

I'd want to do a lot more research before considering a vote. I thought I might have to make that research a priority earlier this week. I will get to it.
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Post Post #4178 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:57 am

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In post 4176, Amethyst Kitty wrote:Nope not really readin the thread. I stopped caring a while ago. Mara cares though.
Can you pinpoint where you stopped caring?
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Post Post #4179 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:58 am

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Because I'm betting it's around the time Ryu showed up dead and thez got speedlynched
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Post Post #4180 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:59 am

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In post 4177, ffullisade wrote:@despo

fery head here.

The case looks good on the face of it.

I have a feeling that Seanald could wind up mislynched a lot.

I'd want to do a lot more research before considering a vote. I thought I might have to make that research a priority earlier this week. I will get to it.
Thanks I'll do the same.
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Post Post #4181 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:10 pm

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I stopped caring when Mollie got all paranoid on me.
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Post Post #4182 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:17 pm

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Why would you stop caring because one player "got all paranoid"?
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Post Post #4183 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:21 pm

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In post 4182, Desperado wrote:Why would you stop caring because one player "got all paranoid"?
She's my strongest town read. I like working with my strongest town read, but I can't work with my strongest town read if she's fighting me. She's currently not giving me a chance. I do tend to bounce reads off strong town reads.

I'm waiting for her to respond to something though, but she hasn't been present since I said it.
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Post Post #4184 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:23 pm

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OK

This is a big game though. If your #1 townread did something that gave you pause, why did you chose to stop caring rather than just moving on to your #2 town read?
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Post Post #4185 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:26 pm

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In post 4184, Desperado wrote:OK

This is a big game though. If your #1 townread did something that gave you pause, why did you chose to stop caring rather than just moving on to your #2 town read?
You make it sound like I have a second biggest town read. I don't really have any hugeeeeeee confidence in anyone, but Mollie. Nacho's currently maybe trying to work with Mara, so that's cool I guess?

Arc would be a higher town read, but I can't bounce ideas off her when she's not really present in the thread, now can I?
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Post Post #4186 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:33 pm

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Arc is a higher town read even though she's "doing nothing but lurk her ass off?"

You didn't seem too interested in bouncing ideas off her when she was here right before voting you. And certainly not afterwards.

Or earlier today when she posted twice before 4pm, and you decided to...speculate about whether there is scum in the neighborhoods and then IIoA all over the place. That seemed a lot more like you "bouncing ideas" (and I use that term as loosely as possible) to the town as a whole.
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Post Post #4187 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:35 pm

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Meta as I said.

How can I bounce ideas off if she's barely present?

Ehm. I was at work, tyvm.
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Post Post #4188 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:36 pm

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Doesn't matter though she made two posts and popped out. I can't work with her if she doesn't pay somewhat attention. >.>
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Post Post #4189 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:39 pm

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Who am I talking to right now?
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Post Post #4190 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:40 pm

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mara
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit
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Post Post #4191 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:40 pm

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Mala.

Really Nero? Mara?
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Post Post #4192 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:41 pm

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You sure? Mala's the one who fake-quit, I thought.

That's what I thought. Why did you just lie about being at work?

In post 4154, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 4133, Desperado wrote:
Vote: Amethyst Kitty
AK is not dying today.. Seanald is today's lynch!!!
Stop pushing counter wagons!!!!!!!!
In post 4156, Amethyst Kitty wrote:What I don't understand is why we aren't looking for scum in these three claimed neighborhoods.

We have:

Seanald / Despo

CTD / Slandaar

Pv / ThAd

I don't think Mastin would have three town neighborhoods and I doubt scum would claim if they were neighbors together.

There's something wrong with this picture.

____

My point is Nacho that I can sometimes pull information from town AND scum lynches. In fact I know I can because I have done it multiple times when I was a vig and was accurate.
So I'm different when people say we can't pull information from possible town flips because it's wrong - people are able to pull information from them, but they need to know how it's done correctly.

____

@Despo:

I was eating lunch when I posted earlier and kept wanting to throw my phone across the wall because it kept sticking and I couldn't type anything right. I think my replacement screen is fucked up right now.

____

@Mollie:

2566.
In post 4157, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 4155, Nachomamma8 wrote:Arc, Nero has a leaning scum read on you. Why?
Nero is obessed with me. He reads me scum in every game i play with him despite how I ended flipping town and he was wrong.
I keeping telling him time and again that I am town again in this game and he don't believe me. the thing is that i had tried to convince him before but it didn't work. So, I let him read me as scum becuz i am not sure about him either.

And right now there are better options like Seanald, Despo.... should be dying!!!
In post 4160, Amethyst Kitty wrote:
In post 4159, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 4156, Amethyst Kitty wrote:I don't think Mastin would have three town neighborhoods and I doubt scum would claim if they were neighbors together.

There's something wrong with this picture.
Setup spec, generally useless. Why not wait until we have more information to sort out the neighborhoods? Why is it crucial we focus on them now?
We have one neighbor (ThAd) who has a x-Shot vig and wants to shoot another neighbor (CTD). (ThAd) is not listening to what the town wants and rather put things in his own hands.

We have currently one neighbor close to L-3 (now I believe) (Seanald) and his own neighbor (Despo) who is 'testing' wagons and now trying to bring light back to our wagon.

CTD's neighbor (Slandaar) is doing flips and jumps.

ThAd's neighbor (PV) is actually being helpful right now. So I don't have anything to say regarding him.
In post 4162, Amethyst Kitty wrote:
In post 4161, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 4160, Amethyst Kitty wrote:We have one neighbor (ThAd) who has a x-Shot vig and wants to shoot another neighbor (CTD). (ThAd) is not listening to what the town wants and rather put things in his own hands.

We have currently one neighbor close to L-3 (now I believe) (Seanald) and his own neighbor (Despo) who is 'testing' wagons and now trying to bring light back to our wagon.

CTD's neighbor (Slandaar) is doing flips and jumps.

ThAd's neighbor (PV) is actually being helpful right now. So I don't have anything to say regarding him.
This doesn't mean we should focus on the neighbor group.
Yeah we should because there's something odd regarding it. I doubt that every group present right here is town/town.

CTD already had suspicions on Slandaar, but hasn't given any new information regarding that.

Despo is acting all weird again and for a few minutes there I was warming up to him being town now he put himself back into a null pile.
In post 4164, Amethyst Kitty wrote:
I'm waiting for Mara to flesh out the Nero town read.

When she does this then Ill comment on your thoughts.
And is 4188 you realizing that you lied and trying to preempt it?
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Post Post #4193 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:43 pm

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4156 was me phone posting.

The rest I was home.
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Post Post #4194 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:45 pm

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So back to the original point about you having an opportunity to engage Arc (why'd you ignore my question about how she's a higher townread?) and choosing to give us a bunch of IIoA that had already been covered instead, then?
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Post Post #4195 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:47 pm

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In post 4176, Amethyst Kitty wrote:Nope not really readin the thread. I stopped caring a while ago. Mara cares though.
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Post Post #4196 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:53 pm

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You're sitting here asking me questions I already answered. If you want more information on my Arc read - read the read list. If you want information on why I didn't quit read prior posts. I didn't 'fake rage' I was going to replace out, but Mara talked me out of it. This already has been covered.

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In post 3995, Amethyst Kitty wrote:
Town:

Nacho
- Started off really shakey though I think I got a good handle on him now. Recently, he's been doing alot better, I'm getting where he's coming from and his annoyance with Bacde looks extremely townish. the fact that he unwilling to lynch him despite him being an annoyance is town as fuck, the little dance we had made him look a tad bit townish... I think his paranoia of him jumping from the bottom of my list to the top is genuine.
For Mala, Nacho being pushed by both blue scum early on makes him townish.
Ffery/Mollie
- Mollie is being aggressive and stubborn, showing alot of her town-traits early on in the game. we both have similar feeling on that slot, and that slot was solidly town all game for both of us.
Nero
: Explained, and solidly based on Meta. Weaker read for Mala though, and she is basically just trusting me on this

Bacde
: Despite Mala's outburst on him earlier, He is a strong (I think at least) town read for the both of us. I like his contributions in thread and I think he's been somewhat helpful, moreso than he usually is.

CTD
: He is solidly town for both of us too, he has nice thought processes, and ask alot of good questions and his paranoia on the neighbor thing was genuine as fuck I think. also, I really like his early play.

Angel
- her post are incredibly light hearted, especially early on. This, I think is an indication of town angel. her reaction to the mass claim idea is really genuine as well. I really love her defense of OS, and her reasoning behind it.

she also made a nice push on Ryu which, at the very least shows that she isn't blue scum.

the only thing I don't agree with is her vote on us, and the timing of it but it doesn't hurt my read on her. Strong town read for Mala as well

Rena
- Mostly not blue scum, and I don't think anything her or Fuzzy has done is actually scummy. Early game, Fuzzy did his normal fuzzy shenanigans of doing wierd as fuck stuff though he usually does those kinds of things to try and get reads so I had him as town.
As soon Rena gets in, she asks questions and plays catch up, which is a really good sign. She's been asking alot of questions and been fairly engaged... Yeah, I don't get the case on her at all and I don't have a clue to why she was ran up to claim at all. Weaker town read for Mala

Bulb
: Easily one of the most engaged people in the game I think. Stronger read for me, a weaker one for Mala. I really like his questions and him trying to understand the mindset of others. the fact that he keeps returning to his original reads, to me reads that he trusts his reads more than he trusts others and is constantly re-finding his center in the game.
DLG/Peregrine
: I have him as solidly town, though Mala has him at null. a quick run through his Iso shows that both are genuine in their responses, and both were as engaged in the game as they could be. DLG looked less townish in my eyes, but PV's attempt to actually interact with everyone despite not being able to keep up with things. He's trying to analyze what's going on in game which is another very good sign.
Null.

Ceph: I was scum reading him, though Mala doesn't have an opinion on him yet. My read on him had to do with alot of his early interactions. I'm not to overly fond of his interactions with Mollie/jiffy early on and his thought process's don't go that deep until later in the game when he starts making lists which, I originally thought him to be trying to "look town" I shift on him alot but his response to being pressured is pretty much non-existant. almost like he doesn't care about what others think. My scum read on him feels out of date but he hunts for solely blue scum, rather than just scum in general which makes me look at him wierdly.

HD
was really townish early game, though he's buggered off lately. Mala was town reading due to Om though she doesn't exactly remember what it was. for me, he started off strong. he was a really strong town read though he hasn't given anything of substance for a while. aside from D1, his actions aren't memorable and he's lurking like hell but I don't think he's done anything scummy. I just need more from him in general. The Hydra dis looked legit to me as well.. when he was in hydra.

Scum:

KK
. I already explained my case on him and he is also a strong scum read for Mala too, though I mostly think she's sheeping me on him >.>

Penguin and Seanald are weaker scum reads for the both of us.
Seanald
is mostly based on gut, though Senalds most latest post are terrible. the only thing that stops me is Sherlock holmes mafia where he acted somewhat similar and I ended up lynching him.
Babyspice/Penguin
is mostly based on guts as well. I don't like either of their posts. Spice was superficial, not really deep seeding and penguin isn't any better I don't think. I don't get any of his votes at all, and a few of them look a bit opportunistic, mainly his Rena one. I do like post 3636 though, and that makes me question this read. Spices's post make sense from a mind scumset, but Penguins make less sense I think so I am also conflicted on that end.

Hydra dissonance is fun reads:

Thad
- I think he's town Despite AD early fluffiness. Early on, when he did try to catchup, he was actually trying to catch up and he wanted to avoid a no lynch via his "just tell me who to lynch, I won't have time to read through the thread"
day two starts, In between his complaints he has some decent reads and he interacts well with others. He doesn't really push his own cases, but he does try being helpful. I think all this later day stuff is just him starting to burn out a bit. His early claim is a little weird though I have had experiences with that myself so I'm unwilling to call him scum for that.
I have him as weak town
Mala has him as scum. Mala thinks AD was really fluffy, and Thad is the exact same. He isn't as aggressive as she's used to him being and he's following pushes of others over making pushes of his own. She also think his Vig claim is lazy, and a fake-claim. she's thinking SK, or red scum. She also thinks that Mollie's relative tell that we used in Tit for Tat can be used on him again this game.

Slandaaar:
I have him as solid town. I think his vibe here is different than his vibe in GoW and his post feel alot less forced to me. Mala thinks he's scum who is doing that terrible scum tunneling, though I disagree because I know that he also tunnels as town. She finds his flip-flop read on us extremely suspicion though I don't find it as much.

to me, he feels a whole lot light hearted in this game and isn't to concerened over what he's doing/saying.

the tunnel on Thor, and then tunnel on us is pretty bad and his other thoughts are all over the place but I think that indicates town slandaar.

Despers:
for me, alot of it is meta based... he does alot of 1v1 ( I don't know if he does these as scum too) and his thoughts and ideas look pretty genuine to me. I see a bit of logical fallacy in his posts, though he's generally fearless with his opinions and doesn't really care of how others view it. He has that stubborness that I have witnessed him to have as town and is unwavering behind it. He's pretty aggressive in his attacks, the only thing I have a problem with is his choice of targets. some of them look pretty easy. I can't really follow his thought process behind his Rena, Kitty, Nero, and Thad votes but that's pretty minor I think.

Mala has a gut read on him though, she can't really explain why she thinks Despers is scum though she does think 2321, 2322, and 2326 looks like scum distancing, and it also looks forced from her perspective.


~Mara

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In post 4051, Amethyst Kitty wrote:Mollie fails <3

I trusted you as you were/are my highest town read. I figured we were in a similar boat to you and Fery. I was mistaken and it hurts when a strong town read just turns on someone like that. Yes, but see this is a lot different because you have meta on both Mara and I and we play a lot together. This game isn't one of my scum-games, but as I said you just flipped. It wasn't really you flipping that bothered me as so much what happened before you did it. You stated okay we are a weak town read (fair enough - I understand that) and that you wanted to talk to us to get a better read. Before we could even speak to you - you accused us both of lurking while bringing up Skype against us both. You woke me up the following morning and I said I was sleeping so it was most likely I was still sleeping, but as I said you didn't put that into perspective. Once I posted and made the '>.>' you flipped hardcore. I get really, really annoyed at people in general when they nitpick over my personal habits. This is exactly what you did. You said my personal habit is a relative-scum tell (which it's not). I can't change something if I do it all the time in random online conversation. Don't expect me to change either.

These are the tells you keep brining up against us:

•'>.>'
•lurking
•being calm
•aTe

All of which are done regardless of our alignment.

I never had that and I don't go to cold stone so probably will never have it. :P

The ATE meltdowns weren't a joke and they weren't a trick to get all the votes off of us. I was frustrated at everyone. I was frustrated at Mara too and I wanted out of the game. I wasn't happy with you and it affected my mood overall. Yes I wanted to replace out and yes Mara talked me out of it, but yes I still want to replace out, but I don't want to leave Mara alone to clean up after a mess I helped create.

You said you wanted to talk. Lets talk before I go to bed. You got 10 minutes since I might sleep once this episode is over. If you reply then ill watch another one and you'll have my attention for an hour.
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Post Post #4197 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:59 pm

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I don't want information on why you didn't quit. I don't care.

You're the one who brought it up just now as an explanation for why you were calling for an examination on the possibility of scum being in the neighborhoods (a topic covered like 1000 posts before you almost replaced out, btw), remember?
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Post Post #4198 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:01 pm

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VC wrote:Seanald - 5 (
PeregrineV
, ArcAngel9, Cephrir, ThAdmiral,
penguin_alien
)
Nero Cain - 5 (
Nachomamma8, CrashTextDummie, Desperado, Bacde
, Ffullisade)
...Oh, fine.

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Post Post #4199 (ISO) » Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:11 pm

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WORST TOWN EVER!!!!

I'm being voted for a bunch of fucking nothingness. Jesus Christ.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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