NY 164: Maniacal Street Mafia (Anticlimatically finished.)

mastin2 · Post Post #4025 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:15 pm

<<< The unity of the gathered once more broken, hope of coherence begins to fade. That is, until the next victim of their attention becomes to take shape.

Nobody had really paid much attention to

Amethyst Kitty

before. The young woman adorned in purple had been among those with the multiple personalities, and yet, of all those with that condition, they were the one to most actively strive towards being a single person.

Though they still identified as separate people and would make others aware of who was speaking between "Kitty" and "Violet", they made sure to act as a single entity.

...That is, until they started to be pressured. With the force of a hurricane, the steam against them began to mount; the accusations of ties to the mafia exceeded those of the Rena push.

And under this microscope, one of them (Kitty) nearly snapped, almost retreating into her shell and disappearing. Unity had been shattered, and the two now spoke and began to act as different people, sharing the same body. And it only built the stress. This left them as a mess--so close to death, and abandonment was upon Violet? Inches from the noose, and she was losing her closest ally?

...But something came back. A spark within them, a green flame of passion, erupted, and suddenly, they began to fight back.

On the brink of extinction, they fought back, unifying once more, and the citizens were touched by their energy enough to relinquish their attacks.

Though the threat has not disappeared, it has been lessened, as other options begin to pop up. Support for

Nachomamma8

to die equals the support against them, but he's not the only name in the pot;

Nero Cain

is under fire as well.

Interest remains in

ThAdmiral

, and a growing movement has begun against his savior,

PeregrineV

.

Though no coherence has yet been reached, the people debating are now more lively than ever before, everyone deeply invested in reaching their goal.

This would be a long, LONG day. >>>

Ninetieth Votecount

:

(Twenty-Third Votecount of Day Three,

AKA, the "Mod is seriously, seriously cheating" votecount.

)

Amethyst Kitty - 4 (Kublai Khan, Cephrir, Seanald, ffullisade)

Nachomamma8 - 4 (Nero Cain, Bacde, PeregrineV, ThAdmiral)

Nero Cain - 3 (Nachomamma8, Bulbazak, CrashTextDummie)
ThAdmiral - 2 (Human Destroyer, Desperado)
PeregrineV - 2 (Slandaar, penguin_alien)
Bacde - 1 (Rena)
Kublai Khan - 1 (Amethyst Kitty)
Desperado - 1 (ArcAngel9)

All votes are in play.

With

18

alive, it's

10

to lynch.

Day Three's deadline is Monday, July 1st, @ 12:30 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-07-01 12:30:00).

Bulbazak is V/LA over weekends indefinitely.
ArcAngel9 is V/LA until Wednesday, Jun 19th.
mastin2, the moderator, is V/LA for...a while.

Spoiler: Changes from last votecount

Last votecount was page 160, post 3980.

Spoiler: Player Votecount History D3

Spoiler: Votecount History D3

Rena · Post Post #4026 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:17 pm

I'm currently having Nacho, Human Destroyer and Kublai Kahn as my town reads. I'm not sure if it's my instinct playing up but I'm still a bit paranoid about them both. I guess that's a good thing though.

Cephir, Nero and Bacde are my stronger scum reads. I could go with a lynch on either of those. Will be updating myself on the Kitty case next.

ffullisade · Post Post #4027 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:54 pm

@ ak

Mala has him as scum. Mala thinks AD was really fluffy, and Thad is the exact same. He isn't as aggressive as she's used to him being and he's following pushes of others over making pushes of his own. She also think his Vig claim is lazy, and a fake-claim. she's thinking SK, or red scum.
She also thinks that Mollie's relative tell that we used in Tit for Tat can be used on him again this game
.

?

I went back and looked in our chatlog about that game and I don't see how you could interpret that tell and apply it to this game. if anything he is doing the opposite. I believe him cos of his whole suck my dick post which I found to be kind of funny. I am just not feeling that he is scum but then I suppose I could interact with him to firm up the read cos I haven't played with him that much. and I think I will.

@ nacho

re: seanalderina

I could see him making that post as either alignment but for completely different reasons.

re: ak

see, I don't think mara is acting at all like she did in polygamy. she seems too calm, almost like she is being coached. I see the same behaviour in popcorn either other than she was calmer in that game to a degree, she just didn't know what to say when wisdom went after her and I was not around to help. I have been negging on her scum game hard <---- cos I want her to improve her game. she and mala will understand this and I think so will you.

she says things like this:

for me, alot of it is meta based... he does alot of 1v1 ( I don't know if he does these as scum too) and his thoughts and ideas look pretty genuine to me. I see a bit of logical fallacy in his posts, though he's generally fearless with his opinions and doesn't really care of how others view it. He has that stubborness that I have witnessed him to have as town and is unwavering behind it. He's pretty aggressive in his attacks, the only thing I have a problem with is his choice of targets. some of them look pretty easy. I can't really follow his thought process behind his Rena, Kitty, Nero, and Thad votes but that's pretty minor I think.

and I don't feel like I am talking to mara. I swear that reads list looks more like mala than mara it is weird. I mean I feel like I am talking to this player:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... start=1200

iso it. mala's scum game is highly detailed.

but mara is signing the post. so it confuses me.

nacho I am telling you that I have done exactly what mala has done in this game as scum and everyone town read me for it. I know it is not good yardstick to measure another player with what I have done, but there is something there that I just don't like. I mean, how is applying pressure (and god knows I have been nice I mean we all know how mean I can get when I get pissed off <----working on it) being mean? go back and read the exchanges and tell me that it was not an overreaction.

and don't say a thing about how I am at tr that is years of frustration we are talking about that someone who is not familiar with the history would understand. I think you are putting them in your town pile and they don't really belong there.

I have always had a seekrit belief that the game is usually won by the player(s) who most wants it. I think scum really wants this, especially red scum. ak's post asking about "do you think that it is possible that it is scum + sk?" is a lead up to stoking the fires of a thad lynch. do you know what does not add up with their thad scum read? I fucking read him like a picture book so wouldn't you think they would put more stock in my read?

and of course if thad by some chance flips scum I will eat humble pie but I am going to fight his lynch kicking and screaming cos I want to at least give him a chance. also wondering if the stuff between khan and them is scum theatre. it is possible but I feel like slaandy if more of a likely partner.

Amethyst Kitty · Post Post #4028 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:18 pm

Waiting til Mara pops back up on skype and a reply from Mastin and then there will be a reply to Mollie's last post. (Likely from Mara, but it will be greatly influenced by what I'm going to say on skype)

Amethyst Kitty · Post Post #4029 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:35 pm

I'm going to keep every emotion that I may or may not have out of this post.

@Mollie:

You have a point in regards to the reads, but no it was actually Mara that did that. She asked me for my reads and I went back and read through all of Thez/Ruu's posts. I gave the reasons why I thought Thad/Despo are scum. Might not have been in great detail, but I tried to explain it as best.

Why ask us for our reads if you were just going to twist it and say we are scum for it. Along with the fact you pulled up my scum game, but you're forgetting it's just not scum-Mala that can post reads like that because Town-Mala has also.

My skype message to Mastin was about skype logs, but I think they are treated similar to QT post logs so I wanted to check with him before posting it. I would have proven that Mara did all of that work and not me.

Mollie I tried working with you earlier and tried to reach out a few times. I asked you about Thad because I saw that relative tell from Tit For Tat in this game. It wasn't as obvious, but it's there in his earlier posts.

You are forgetting that we are hydra'ing and we can control each other. The only time we can't control each other's emotions is when we aren't around at the same time. You're trying to fuel justification by saying she's being coached. Similar to KK saying that we were coaching Ryu. KK you need to read up on my meta I do the whole cop thing regardless of alignment. I flipped out of scum-OM for doing it because he tried to direct the action during Switch.

Amethyst Kitty · Post Post #4030 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:47 pm

Town Mala

Town Mala

So there Mala going into detail is a null tell.

This one was my fav though and forgot to space everything.

Amethyst Kitty · Post Post #4031 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:22 pm

Oh and Mollie;

Mara doesn't appreciate you using her worse two scum games to judge her. Also the fact the post this game with the reads looks nothing like my detailed posts. Being calm is not a relative-scum tell.

~~~

So on the most random note. The fact is Rena, Nacho, Nero & our wagon took off like wildfire, but we can't get any votes onto Despo/KK. I did say Thad too so I'm kinda wondering about that scum-read I had on him due to that fact, but the wagons were fast paced and I have noticed the wagons that are harder to get votes on are sometimes scum rather then town.

ISO · Post Post #4032 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:23 pm

I don't know why you would be surprised that wagons aren't taking off when they're on players most of us consider town.

Amethyst Kitty · Post Post #4033 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:23 pm

Correction:

worst two games of both alignments*

Amethyst Kitty · Post Post #4034 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:25 pm

In post 4032, Cephrir wrote:I don't know why you would be surprised that wagons aren't taking off when they're on players most of us consider town.

It was a general thought. The faster the wagon I have seen earlier in days are normally on town unless there's a huge town block (not seeing a town block this game)

ffullisade · Post Post #4035 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:40 pm

In post 4029, Amethyst Kitty wrote:I'm going to keep every emotion that I may or may not have out of this post.

@Mollie:

You have a point in regards to the reads, but no it was actually Mara that did that. She asked me for my reads and I went back and read through all of Thez/Ruu's posts. I gave the reasons why I thought Thad/Despo are scum. Might not have been in great detail, but I tried to explain it as best.

Why ask us for our reads if you were just going to twist it and say we are scum for it
. Along with the fact you pulled up my scum game, but you're forgetting it's just not scum-Mala that can post reads like that because Town-Mala has also.

I have been wanting your reads all game. it took heavy pressuring before you finally gave them out in this day round. I want a trail. if you are town then hell yeah I will be doing a follow up if I am alive, if you are scum then hey we have something to work from.

My skype message to Mastin was about skype logs, but I think they are treated similar to QT post logs so I wanted to check with him before posting it. I would have proven that Mara did all of that work and not me.

Mollie I tried working with you earlier and tried to reach out a few times. I asked you about Thad because I saw that relative tell from Tit For Tat in this game. It wasn't as obvious, but it's there in his earlier posts.

there was no follow-up with the reach out instead you are applying a relative tell I have on a player when I am not applying it myself cos I am not seeing it. if it is there then show me. what you

might

be applying is what I had on his meta but then why not listen to the player who gave it to you.

You are forgetting that we are hydra'ing and we can control each other. The only time we can't control each other's emotions is when we aren't around at the same time. You're trying to fuel justification by saying she's being coached. Similar to KK saying that we were coaching Ryu. KK you need to read up on my meta I do the whole cop thing regardless of alignment. I flipped out of scum-OM for doing it because he tried to direct the action during Switch.

you were both around when you melted down. so not much control there. :/

it isn't similar to what I am saying about ryu at all. I don't think you are blue scum. I think you are red scum and there is someone on your team who is coaching you or you are coaching mara cos that did not look a post of hers. I also think you are playing the hydra cog dis to the max which is what we did in the popcorn game. but cog dis in a hydra a null tell so that is not my angle. my angle is, is that there is something going on with you 2 and when I pressed you scumflailed. I mean you melted down over

nothing

. mebbe you were mad cos I brought up the skype thing and that is why I tell people when I hydra with them to go ahead and put yourself on invisible if you are a lurky scum player cos it is pretty damn hard to ignore. and I see no reason not to bring it up when you don't do that, it at least lets you know to cover your tracks better. it is the same as remembering people's work and computer time schedules it is never something I intentionally do it is something that I just do.

if that is what offended you I apologise.

but if we are just going to go off of in thread behaviour up until this point you guyz looked pretty scummy and there was only 1 reason I could give for that, I even flagged it to nacho on d1 I think. one of the main reasons why I do not think he is scum but scum make weird choices in their nks on this site but I think nacho is town.

anyways you probably won't be the lynch for the day cos when women fight men scatter. it is a survival mechanism for them or something.

Amethyst Kitty · Post Post #4036 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:00 pm

She wasn't on skype during my meltdown. She came around afterwards and I was already doing something to attempt to calm myself down.

I don't need to be coached and Mara doesn't need to be coached either. You do realize we were calm during our hydra game and I was calm in the piratecat hydra. Remember when you flipped out because of Slandaar/Bork and I was there. Well this is a similar situation, but in a total different hydra.

The only reason why I flailed because you are cutting it close to the personal edge which I don't want to happen. If it continues any post that comes from you will be replied by from Mara and if you need a question directly answered from me it will come from a Mara post.

I'm a lurkly player in general. Don't try and say I'm just a lurkly scum player because I'm lurky as town and I have been given heat for this in the past in a few games we played together. I'm not going to change my status just because I'm in a hydra and you know I only use phone skype and that the status never changes, but you failed to put that in perspective before attacking us for it.

You just tried to rolefish us in another post. I Breadcrumb fake crumbs as VT to draw the NK. I don't crumb when I'm a doctor or a protective role, but I will crumb if I'm an investigation role. If I am a PR I do not crumb during Day 1 (unless it's a hider then I will subtly crumb). I try not to crumb when I'm scum so I don't get locked into a fake claim. You know this based on DT/skype.

For the reads:

I have been disconnected all game besides Day 1 and now. She has been giving her reads out and I was giving them to the best of my ability.
Sure you can have a trail, but we are town and I don't see how our reads will help you after we are dead.

You answered my question that you didn't see it because he looked smug and I thought fair enough. I was just pointing out that I tried to reach out to you in regards to it. I don't want him to catch onto the relative tell so I'm not going to post the one that I see. If you want us to trust you then why don't you trust us or stop being paranoid and trust your original read on us.

Amethyst Kitty · Post Post #4037 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:12 pm

Mara just made fun of my error.

I meant lurky*

Desperado · Post Post #4038 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:22 pm

Rena - 6 (Nero Cain, Cephrir, ffullisade, Seanald, Desperado, Bacde)

Amethyst Kitty - 7 (Kublai Khan, Slandaar, Desperado, Cephrir, ArcAngel9, Seanald, ffullisade)

Nachomamma8 - 4 (Nero Cain, Bacde, PeregrineV, ThAdmiral)

Nero Cain - 3 (Nachomamma8, Bulbazak, CTD)

These are the Rena, AK, and Nacho wagons at their respective apexes. Nero's wagon has only gotten as high as 3, so I'm not really sure what you meant by that, but anyway...

Seanald is the only one that really sticks out. He joins the Rena wagon with a naked vote (while supporting a cephrir wagon as well), and then votes AK with the bad policy lynch logic that basically no one liked.

Diving further into Seanald's ISO, the only time he mentions Ryu (while he was still alive) is to defend him here:

In post 872, Seanald wrote:
In post 870, Amethyst Kitty wrote:Redryu in junction with being passive to the bulb/hd-OM argument
not sure I understand this question, wasn't everyone being passive because their arguement was annoying as hell and everyone just told them to shut up? or has this arguement been going on since pages 20-29 cuz I havn't read the 20's yet.

It's also interesting to note that, after Ryu and Syryana's flip, Seanald made it a big show of not being concerned with Ryu's killer (because it was turning into a speculative circle jerk) here:

In post 2894, Seanald wrote:Ok So there has been a lot of talk about Red Ryu and shit, and who his partner/partners is which I get, and the talk has mostly just been a bunch of bacde and bulba tripping over each other's penises as they run around a bush.

Before turning around in the same post and sheeping Syryana's reads (note how he forgets that Ryu was already dead, as well--he really wants you to know that he isn't concerned with Ryu's death) here:

In post 2894, Seanald wrote:so just based off of Syr's reads, Desp,Red, and AA9(based on his comment) are switched into the scum pile. and baby spice and bacde join the null to scum pile.
theres more to read based off of syrs reads switching but I honestly can't keep it all in my head.

Honestly Seanald's whole treatment of the N1 deaths is just terribly scummy. Relevant posts are #2894, 2896, and 2899.

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The only time he interacts with Mac (thezmon's slot) is here:

In post 1045, Seanald wrote:I want to hear from Nacho before I follow the tomatos, and damn your tomatoes look good man.

also, never seen you town post this hard mala, its like not even a question.

@Mac, I'd like to know what you think of this game so far, you've been skirting this shit too long, pipe up sonny.

Which reads like scum asking a teammate to stop lurking. Mac was eventually replaced by thezmon, and the only time seanald interacted with HIM is here:

In post 1686, Seanald wrote:
In post 1685, thezmon221 wrote:In post 1674, Bacde wrote:I'm clawing for reasons to unvote you and vote for desperado you know

I'd so much prefer it for both of us to be town and I want to believe

but you aren't helping me here

you feel like scum to me love

WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH.

WOAH.

What happened to you being super convinced that Nacho was scum? Like, seemingly 100% convinced? But at its height you decide you want to go another way?
He's getting a chubby for nacho is what is happening, ive been seeing it in his eyes, he keeps looking across the room staring at Nacho's ass.

Until he becomes the 2nd to last vote when thezmon was clearly dead and gone.

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In the other direction...

Mac never mentions seanald, although I thought this post was interesting:

In post 915, Mac wrote:VOTE: Red Ryu

directing night actions? really?

especially in conjunction with AK's multiple posts of basically the same sentiment without a vote attached. Really starting to believe in one scum team + SK.

Thezmon only mentions Seanald (Ryu was listed as town in the same post) here:

In post 1410, thezmon221 wrote:NULL:
[Seanald, Kublai Khan, Desperado, Syryana, Nachomomma8, Cephrir]

and in his final reads post in #3247, in which Seanald is also null.

And Ryu only interacts with Seanald briefly, in this series of posts:

In post 865, Red Ryu wrote:Seanald for #1 vig pick.

In post 874, Red Ryu wrote:
In post 868, Seanald wrote:I'll vig your prick, and im still catching up. I don't have alot of time due to work so im a little over half way through right now.

Someone ask me something to get my dick juices in the game.
Hi, you posted now.

What reads you have, even simple or leaning ones?

In post 882, Red Ryu wrote:
In post 881, Seanald wrote:
In post 879, Seanald wrote:
In post 877, Amethyst Kitty wrote:Any gut feels of reads or anything.
I feel an overwhelming compulsion to follow the flowchart.....
and I have a town read on crash Text Dummie for the way he explained and handled the massclaim thing in the beginning pages there.
Explain.

I had the opposite.

Seanald never explained, and Ryu never followed up on it. Blatantly manufactured interaction.

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Seanald has interactions with both blue scum that implicate him as a teammate. He was the 2nd to last vote on thezmon (without interacting with the process of thez's lynch whatsoever), and spent an inordinate amount of time trying to "decipher" the Syryana kill while downplaying the interest in examining Ryu's interactions.

And I was particularly disappointed with his treatment of Rena today because he told me in the quicktopic that he was considering her as a blue scum partner, and that he would ISO her because it was mostly gut, without following through on that at all.

In conclusion:

Unvote
Vote: Seanald

Desperado · Post Post #4039 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:29 pm

In post 4034, Amethyst Kitty wrote:
In post 4032, Cephrir wrote:I don't know why you would be surprised that wagons aren't taking off when they're on players most of us consider town.
It was a general thought. The faster the wagon I have seen earlier in days are normally on town unless there's a huge town block (not seeing a town block this game)

In response to this, as long as you're willing to accept individual members of the block to suspect one another (and you should, because that's healthy), then bacde/nacho/fullisade/bulbazak/CTD/kublai khan/arcangel is a damn formidable town block. I personally have no problem with any of them right now.

pirate mollie · Post Post #4040 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:49 pm

In post 4036, Amethyst Kitty wrote:She wasn't on skype during my meltdown. She came around afterwards and I was already doing something to attempt to calm myself down.

I don't need to be coached and Mara doesn't need to be coached either. You do realize we were calm during our hydra game and I was calm in the piratecat hydra. Remember when you flipped out because of Slandaar/Bork and I was there. Well this is a similar situation, but in a total different hydra.

okay well if I am in a game and I have access to someone who is more experienced than I, I am always eager to be coached. I am pretty arrogant but not so arrogant as to miss out on a good opportunity to learn.

The only reason why I flailed because you are cutting it close to the personal edge which I don't want to happen. If it continues any post that comes from you will be replied by from Mara and if you need a question directly answered from me it will come from a Mara post.

okay well I was not the first one to engage in personal attacks. like I am pretty sure I never said you were stupid.

I'm a lurkly player in general. Don't try and say I'm just a lurkly scum player
because I'm lurky as town and I have been given heat for this in the past in a few games we played together
. I'm not going to change my status just because I'm in a hydra and you know I only use phone skype and that the status never changes, but you failed to put that in perspective before attacking us for it.

where

You just tried to rolefish us in another post. I Breadcrumb fake crumbs as VT to draw the NK. I don't crumb when I'm a doctor or a protective role, but I will crumb if I'm an investigation role. If I am a PR I do not crumb during Day 1 (unless it's a hider then I will subtly crumb). I try not to crumb when I'm scum so I don't get locked into a fake claim. You know this based on DT/skype.

well, I don't know that you do not fake breadcrumb as scum or that you are incapable of it. the only time I played against you as scum was in a newbie game and there are only so many set-ups allowed.

For the reads:

I have been disconnected all game besides Day 1 and now. She has been giving her reads out and I was giving them to the best of my ability.
Sure you can have a trail, but we are town and I don't see how our reads will help you after we are dead.

You answered my question that you didn't see it because he looked smug and I thought fair enough. I was just pointing out that I tried to reach out to you in regards to it. I don't want him to catch onto the relative tell so I'm not going to post the one that I see. If you want us to trust you then why don't you trust us or stop being paranoid and trust your original read on us.

okay. so when mara posted the reads, had you not yet communicated that you took it in stock and she was going with what you previously thought? cos that is the piece I am trying to work around at the mo

ffullisade · Post Post #4041 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:51 pm

In post 4040, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 4036, Amethyst Kitty wrote:She wasn't on skype during my meltdown. She came around afterwards and I was already doing something to attempt to calm myself down.

I don't need to be coached and Mara doesn't need to be coached either. You do realize we were calm during our hydra game and I was calm in the piratecat hydra. Remember when you flipped out because of Slandaar/Bork and I was there. Well this is a similar situation, but in a total different hydra.
okay well if I am in a game and I have access to someone who is more experienced than I, I am always eager to be coached. I am pretty arrogant but not so arrogant as to miss out on a good opportunity to learn.

The only reason why I flailed because you are cutting it close to the personal edge which I don't want to happen. If it continues any post that comes from you will be replied by from Mara and if you need a question directly answered from me it will come from a Mara post.
okay well I was not the first one to engage in personal attacks. like I am pretty sure I never said you were stupid.

I'm a lurkly player in general. Don't try and say I'm just a lurkly scum player
because I'm lurky as town and I have been given heat for this in the past in a few games we played together
. I'm not going to change my status just because I'm in a hydra and you know I only use phone skype and that the status never changes, but you failed to put that in perspective before attacking us for it.
where

You just tried to rolefish us in another post. I Breadcrumb fake crumbs as VT to draw the NK. I don't crumb when I'm a doctor or a protective role, but I will crumb if I'm an investigation role. If I am a PR I do not crumb during Day 1 (unless it's a hider then I will subtly crumb). I try not to crumb when I'm scum so I don't get locked into a fake claim. You know this based on DT/skype.
well, I don't know that you do not fake breadcrumb as scum or that you are incapable of it. the only time I played against you as scum was in a newbie game and there are only so many set-ups allowed.

For the reads:

I have been disconnected all game besides Day 1 and now. She has been giving her reads out and I was giving them to the best of my ability.
Sure you can have a trail, but we are town and I don't see how our reads will help you after we are dead.

You answered my question that you didn't see it because he looked smug and I thought fair enough. I was just pointing out that I tried to reach out to you in regards to it. I don't want him to catch onto the relative tell so I'm not going to post the one that I see. If you want us to trust you then why don't you trust us or stop being paranoid and trust your original read on us.
okay. so when mara posted the reads, had you not yet communicated that you took it in stock and she was going with what you previously thought? cos that is the piece I am trying to work around at the mo

that was me

Amethyst Kitty · Post Post #4042 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:06 pm

Despo:

I like that post. Keep it up.

@Mollie:

How can I be coached by someone when it's only Mara and I? That means Mara would be coaching me. I will say I'm learning things from her, but I'm learning it reluctantly.

I never once called you stupid. I already don't like being called a lurker especially when I'm sleeping, but I was so annoyed with you that I wanted to talk to Fery.

Try the game Jiffy modded or even the games we were in together as the hydra. I was a lurker.

I don't like being locked into a fake claim as scum.

I try to be as truthful as I can as scum.

No, I was posting, but it was limited. We were talking, but the reads I had were going off memory. We were both disconnected from the game, but we still tried to keep posting our reads. So it's not like we kept our reads from the thread they just weren't fleshed out.

Amethyst Kitty · Post Post #4043 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:38 pm

Time to officially announce that I'm going to bed. So I won't be back until I wake up or after work.

So 'night.

ffullisade · Post Post #4044 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:51 pm

I missed this post

In post 4031, Amethyst Kitty wrote:Oh and Mollie;

Mara doesn't appreciate you using her worse two scum games to judge her. Also the fact the post this game with the reads looks nothing like my detailed posts. Being calm is not a relative-scum tell.

I don't appreciate being called stupid just cos I decided to put pressure on you.

when did she tell you this? I think it looks more like yours and less like mara's. *shrug*

being calm

is

a relative scumtell but it may not apply to her. dunno.

So on the most random note. The fact is Rena, Nacho, Nero & our wagon took off like wildfire, but we can't get any votes onto Despo/KK.
I did say Thad too so I'm kinda wondering about that scum-read I had on him due to that fact, but the wagons were fast paced and I have noticed the wagons that are harder to get votes on are sometimes scum rather then town
.

when you get back lets talk about this.

Amethyst Kitty · Post Post #4045 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:02 pm

It wasn't the pressure that made me snap. It was the fact you're just being paranoid and just flopped without explanation. You decided I was scum off a relative tell that was just unreliable. I do think you're town however, but sometimes you are known to get onto the wrong track and you tunnel for a while and this is what scum uses to their advantage.

As I said, I didn't call you stupid, but you were pissing us both off which is not good. It normally takes a lot for me to lose my temper and when I feel like I'm getting too out of hand I need to step away because I don't want it to affect a friendship.

Uh, we were talking a little while ago once you posted your first big post. I paraphrased it because she doesn't want to post over here right now.

See that's the thing. You need to apply relative tells that apply to us and not the general population.

I only was going to bed because nothing was happening. Now I'm watching a TV show because I was eating chocolate and it made me hyper. So I'm kinda here, but off my phone.

pirate mollie · Post Post #4046 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:31 pm

In post 4045, Amethyst Kitty wrote:It wasn't the pressure that made me snap. It was the fact you're just being paranoid and just flopped without explanation. You decided I was scum off a relative tell that was just unreliable. I do think you're town however, but sometimes you are known to get onto the wrong track and you tunnel for a while and this is what scum uses to their advantage.

why would me being paranoid make you snap? I get that way about everyone. occasionally I wonder if my hydra partner was given a different role pm than I did.

As I said, I didn't call you stupid, but you were pissing us both off which is not good. It normally takes a lot for me to lose my temper and when I feel like I'm getting too out of hand I need to step away because I don't want it to affect a friendship.

neither do I. I am still confused as to why you guyz got pissed off when I was applying pressure to you in the first place.

Uh, we were talking a little while ago once you posted your first big post. I paraphrased it because she doesn't want to post over here right now.

See that's the thing. You need to apply relative tells that apply to us and not the general population.

I thought I did.

which ones tell are you talking about

I only was going to bed because nothing was happening. Now I'm watching a TV show because I was eating chocolate and it made me hyper. So I'm kinda here, but off my phone.

german chocolate brownie ice cream from cold stone is teh best.

still scum reading you but the aTe meltdowns were epic <3

Desperado · Post Post #4047 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:33 pm

Mollie what do you think of my Seanald case?

ffullisade · Post Post #4048 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:34 pm

In post 4046, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 4045, Amethyst Kitty wrote:It wasn't the pressure that made me snap. It was the fact you're just being paranoid and just flopped without explanation. You decided I was scum off a relative tell that was just unreliable. I do think you're town however, but sometimes you are known to get onto the wrong track and you tunnel for a while and this is what scum uses to their advantage.
why would me being paranoid make you snap? I get that way about everyone. occasionally I wonder if my hydra partner was given a different role pm than I did.

As I said, I didn't call you stupid, but you were pissing us both off which is not good. It normally takes a lot for me to lose my temper and when I feel like I'm getting too out of hand I need to step away because I don't want it to affect a friendship.
neither do I. I am still confused as to why you guyz got pissed off when I was applying pressure to you in the first place.

Uh, we were talking a little while ago once you posted your first big post. I paraphrased it because she doesn't want to post over here right now.

See that's the thing. You need to apply relative tells that apply to us and not the general population.
I thought I did.

which ones tell are you talking about

I only was going to bed because nothing was happening. Now I'm watching a TV show because I was eating chocolate and it made me hyper. So I'm kinda here, but off my phone.
german chocolate brownie ice cream from cold stone is teh best.

still scum reading you but the aTe meltdowns were epic <3

dammit that was me

freaking sorry mastin

<<< It's okay, we all have slips from time to time. >>>

ffullisade · Post Post #4049 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:39 pm

In post 4047, Desperado wrote:Mollie what do you think of my Seanald case?

are you asking if your case makes sense? yes

are you asking if it applies to this specific player? I dunno. I think you are reaching.

are you trying to justify gut?