NY 164: Maniacal Street Mafia (Anticlimatically finished.)

Bacde · Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:56 am

HOW CAN I TAKE MATTERS INTO MY OWN HANDS WHEN I GET BLOCKED

YOU WANT TO SEE A CASE? HOWABOUT THIS POST THATS FREAKING AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE

In post 3125, Bacde wrote:
In post 3103, Bacde wrote:
In post 3065, Bacde wrote:
In post 3061, thezmon221 wrote:What kind of posts are you reading? I never implied you're scum. I think you're delusional and useless town.

YES!

Town, I saved you. Thank me later. LOL! this is great

He just literally lied because he can't keep track of his opinions that are displayed in his posts. Lets look at this gem right here:

In post 3044, thezmon221 wrote:1) You know who doesn't have reads that change after flips (especially two flips)? Scum. Scum doesn't need to change their reads. Your case on Nacho is exactly the same as it was D1: Crap.
This is Thezmon's argument:

1) Bacde does A
2) Scum do A

3 (assumption) Town is much less likely to do A

4) (inference/implication) Bacde is scum

Yet he denies it.

Sheep Bacde. Scumhunting made easy.

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Possible Objections: But you inserted the assumption that town is much less likely to do A! Maybe thezmon doesn't actually think that!

Counter-argument: If thezmon actually doesn't have that assumption, then why did he even include the "You know who does A? Scum do A" part of his post? I can't imagine a town making that statement without the intention of implying that I am scum.

Bacde · Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:57 am

WHAT PART OF THAT POST IS NOT CALM AND RATIONAL AND OBVIOUSLY CORRECT?

Bacde · Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:11 am

In post 3131, Kublai Khan wrote:Okay, you quoted #2, but where does thezmon221 say that "1) Bacde does A"?

Its in post 3044, its IN THE PART I QUOTED IN THE CASE

I typed that with shift, I'm sorry but sometimes I need to emphasize

Bacde · Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:12 am

He says "Your case on Nacho is exactly the same as it was D1: Crap."

Thats your "Bacde does A"

Bacde · Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:12 am

This case is so good I seriously can't comprehend how thezmon isn't lynched yet

Bacde · Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:27 am

In post 3138, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 3135, Bacde wrote:This case is so good I seriously can't comprehend how thezmon isn't lynched yet
Well, he did do what you said. Fair enough.

What's the scum motivation?

Whats the town motivation to directly lie about something 20 minutes after you've said it?

This is what happened:

---
Thezmon:

Implies Bacde is scum

Bacde: Hey you implied I'm scum without voting me! Thats scummy!

Thor: Hey that is kinda scummy

Thezmon: I NEVER IMPLIED THAT YOU DID THAT! (obviously motivated to not look scummy)

Bacde:

Proves that Thezmon did indeed make that implication

*Thor and the rest of the town ignore this slam-dunk case*

---

Bacde · Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:27 am

In post 3137, Slandaar wrote:The reason is that everyone is a cook which I said ages ago.

It doesn't help Thor is scum completely causing chaos within the town he needs lynching badly

if you lynch thezmon with me I promise I'll sheep you onto thor no questions asked

Bacde · Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:42 am

In post 3142, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 3139, Bacde wrote:Whats the town motivation to directly lie about something 20 minutes after you've said it?

This is what happened:
Look, I don't care how dumb I come off. Explain this to me like I'm a four year old.

thezmon221 is being logically inconsistent, I'll give you that. But there is always the possibility of derp. So I want you to eliminate that doubt in my mind.

If thezmon221 is scum, then his play indicates that he has reason not to want to list you as scum. Why?

Ok, sorry about the facepalm

I'm just seriously frustrated

I've got two warnings this game and I'm predicting that I'm going to be force-replaced out at some point

I'm guessing that thezmon thinks that the "discredit bacde by calling him an idiot" route is going to work--the only problem is that I'm actually damn good at this game. I think he's also motivated to call me town still since he called me town early on and thus doesn't want to switch his "opinion" at the risk of looking scummy. Plus its tough to find good reasoning to change your reads when you are scum

Here's a link to a game whree I was scum and absta101 was town, and absta101 caught me d1 but I tried to discredit him by calling him horrible at the game: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=26373

Bacde · Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:49 am

TOWN HAS A HCANCE!!

Bacde · Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:51 am

In post 3141, Cephrir wrote:I would have less issue voting thezmon if Haylen was dead

I already promised slandaar I'd vote thor but I can put you on the waiting list for Haylen

basically if Slandaar doesn't agree to my deal then I'll agree to get Haylen next if you vote for thezmon

if Slandaar DOES agree to my deal then I'll get Haylen with you after me/slandaar get thor

deal?

cmon dude you've been promoting my town-ness since d1, cut me a break and help me not get force-replaced and not get a hernia by lynching thezmon w/ me

Bacde · Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:56 am

Kublai Khan I think I love you right now

Bacde · Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:01 am

Kublai have my babies!!!!1

Bacde · Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:01 am

In post 3125, Bacde wrote:
In post 3103, Bacde wrote:
In post 3065, Bacde wrote:
In post 3061, thezmon221 wrote:What kind of posts are you reading? I never implied you're scum. I think you're delusional and useless town.

YES!

Town, I saved you. Thank me later. LOL! this is great

He just literally lied because he can't keep track of his opinions that are displayed in his posts. Lets look at this gem right here:

In post 3044, thezmon221 wrote:1) You know who doesn't have reads that change after flips (especially two flips)? Scum. Scum doesn't need to change their reads. Your case on Nacho is exactly the same as it was D1: Crap.
This is Thezmon's argument:

1) Bacde does A
2) Scum do A

3 (assumption) Town is much less likely to do A

4) (inference/implication) Bacde is scum

Yet he denies it.

Sheep Bacde. Scumhunting made easy.

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Possible Objections: But you inserted the assumption that town is much less likely to do A! Maybe thezmon doesn't actually think that!

Counter-argument: If thezmon actually doesn't have that assumption, then why did he even include the "You know who does A? Scum do A" part of his post? I can't imagine a town making that statement without the intention of implying that I am scum.

Bacde · Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:14 am

In post 3154, ArcAngel9 wrote:The worst part of this game is Bcade who don't stop posting fluff.... and i am not suprised not everone reading everyone's post here.

Lol AA9 is obviously scum

why else is she motivated to say that I'm posting fluff when I've got a rock-solid case?

Bacde · Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:00 am

In post 3158, ffullisade wrote:The last two pages of this thread are awesome.

mollie may change it back, though.

VOTE: Thezmon

bacde, now you can't say I've never sheeped you.

love,

fery

<3

Bacde · Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:06 am

In post 3160, ArcAngel9 wrote:ON Nacho? then why he hasn't got lynced yet?
see the problem, you're so blinded with yourself and you're not open to see that this is 21 player team games which makes at least 6-7 scum (alternatives).. And for the sake of god, just stop your obession. Nacho dies when the time comes... and everyone thinks he is scum. At this moment, they are better lynch candidates...

Err no you should read the case on thezmon

sorry I'm super frustrated right now but thezmon is scum and I've got a good case on him

just read the new thezmon case and then vote for thezmon

I didn't realize that you were talking about my case on nacho, which is understandable that you don't want to follow it

SORRY SORRY SORRY!

Bacde · Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:14 am

lol thor plz sheep nacho kthx

Bacde · Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:15 am

In post 3166, Nachomamma8 wrote:Because you can be very mean to me sometimes and my feelings are very hurt.

No thats true

sorry man

I'd rather be friends with you but its tough when you ignore me

it hurts my feelings more than words ever could

Bacde · Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:16 am

I've made some of my best friends on this website while they were stabbing me in the back man

you don't have to ignore people just because they are onto you

Bacde · Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:54 am

In post 3150, Bacde wrote:
In post 3125, Bacde wrote:
In post 3103, Bacde wrote:
In post 3065, Bacde wrote:
In post 3061, thezmon221 wrote:What kind of posts are you reading? I never implied you're scum. I think you're delusional and useless town.

YES!

Town, I saved you. Thank me later. LOL! this is great

He just literally lied because he can't keep track of his opinions that are displayed in his posts. Lets look at this gem right here:

In post 3044, thezmon221 wrote:1) You know who doesn't have reads that change after flips (especially two flips)? Scum. Scum doesn't need to change their reads. Your case on Nacho is exactly the same as it was D1: Crap.
This is Thezmon's argument:

1) Bacde does A
2) Scum do A

3 (assumption) Town is much less likely to do A

4) (inference/implication) Bacde is scum

Yet he denies it.

Sheep Bacde. Scumhunting made easy.

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Possible Objections: But you inserted the assumption that town is much less likely to do A! Maybe thezmon doesn't actually think that!

Counter-argument: If thezmon actually doesn't have that assumption, then why did he even include the "You know who does A? Scum do A" part of his post? I can't imagine a town making that statement without the intention of implying that I am scum.

Bacde · Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:56 am

nacho I'm pretending that I think you're town so that you don't nightkill me tonight

Bacde · Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:02 am

CUZ YOU MAKE ME FEEL LIKE

I BEEN LOCKED OUTTA HEAVEN

FOR TOO LOOONGNG

FOR TOOO LONGNGNG

Bacde · Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:08 am

lol AA9 I seriously doubt nacho feels any of those feels for me

Bacde · Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:37 pm

In post 3178, Bacde wrote:
In post 3150, Bacde wrote:
In post 3125, Bacde wrote:
In post 3103, Bacde wrote:
In post 3065, Bacde wrote:
In post 3061, thezmon221 wrote:What kind of posts are you reading? I never implied you're scum. I think you're delusional and useless town.

YES!

Town, I saved you. Thank me later. LOL! this is great

He just literally lied because he can't keep track of his opinions that are displayed in his posts. Lets look at this gem right here:

In post 3044, thezmon221 wrote:1) You know who doesn't have reads that change after flips (especially two flips)? Scum. Scum doesn't need to change their reads. Your case on Nacho is exactly the same as it was D1: Crap.
This is Thezmon's argument:

1) Bacde does A
2) Scum do A

3 (assumption) Town is much less likely to do A

4) (inference/implication) Bacde is scum

Yet he denies it.

Sheep Bacde. Scumhunting made easy.

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Possible Objections: But you inserted the assumption that town is much less likely to do A! Maybe thezmon doesn't actually think that!

Counter-argument: If thezmon actually doesn't have that assumption, then why did he even include the "You know who does A? Scum do A" part of his post? I can't imagine a town making that statement without the intention of implying that I am scum.

Bacde · Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:55 pm

Bacde · Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:23 pm

In post 3219, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 3208, ffullisade wrote:Nacho, Bacde where is the town core?

- f
it's slowly coming together
he won't be able to resist me forever, and i'm working on what the hell thor is doing, and he's treating me sort of weird so far.
CTD is inactive, Desp is in...

the only reason I started looking at thezmon was because I was suspicious of nacho

remember that ffery when thezmon flips scum and I die

Bacde · Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:26 am

In post 3229, Slandaar wrote:Bacde is probably redscum because at the start of the day he switched his stance regarding me and Thor; which would be influenced by Ryu flipping Blue.

I like how this game I'm being simultaneously accused of never changing my stances thus I am scum

and also scum-changing my stances thus I am scum

Bacde · Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:29 am

In post 3241, Slandaar wrote:Instead of the normal town thought of 'oh Thors probably red' (no reason hes not); he went with 'WHAT SLAND SCUM PUSHING THOR'

Even though he had me as town and thor as scum.

What I think you're getting riled up about is that all I wanted you to do was explain your reasoning--because you not explaining your reasoning is something I've seen you do before, in mini 1393, when you were bussing Thor. So I pointed that out to you hoping that you would explain why Thor is priority #1

to which you made a "clever" response by saying that if I thought you were bussing that I should vote Thor

...except I didn't have any evidence that you were bussing. All I saw was you pushing a case in the same way that you push cases when you are scum

but later you pushed in a townie way, which is why I have you as town

I know you have a MAJOR tendency to tunnel on town, so I don't expect you to ever change your read on me (despite my being able to fully and reasonably explain myself), and in a way its kinda good because now I have less of a chance of being killed at night

If you've been watching my play AT ALL, you might see that while I have Thor as "scum", I haven't pushed on him once. This is because I'm actually not sure about my read on Thor, which is why I push for people who I know are obviously scum (such as thezmon)

Bacde · Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:42 am

In post 3265, Slandaar wrote:Well you do... considering you think I pushed like that as scum bussing before then its logical I am playing to my bussing meta as scum again. Or; what was the point in saying it was inline with how I bus instead of just this is what I do as scum?

This is where your confusion is coming from

I was just saying that you were doing something that you've done as scum

The bus comment wasn't me saying that you were bussing, it was me giving an example of you doing something in a similar way to when I've seen you play as scum

Bacde · Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:43 am

In post 3265, Slandaar wrote:I already explained my reasoning in the day Prior and Thor hadn't posted since so; What were you expecting me to say? except;

I guess I forgot it?

Bacde · Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:44 am

In post 3265, Slandaar wrote:Do explain it then.

Uh, that post WAS an explanation, as well as my other posts. I dunno what you are looking for here

Bacde · Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:30 pm

Willingness to lynch Cephrir rising

The claim from thezmon was unexpected, to say the least

not sure if its legit or not

<<< Alt-slip deleted. >>>

Bacde · Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:44 am

In post 3292, ffullisade wrote:Mollie and I are both a little conflicted about Nacho. One of my goals today is to figure him out, and the way I manage that is by direct interaction.

My other goal is to help establish a town core, whether we are part of it or not. And figuring out Nacho and the Nacho/Bacde thing is key to that IMO.

Nacho refuses to interact with me directly this game (except when he demands I sheep his reads even though he admits his reads are bad)

its one of the reasons that I'm over 9000% sure that he's scum

I refuse to be a part of any town core that has nacho in it

Bacde · Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:17 pm

Hey nacho

hows it going

Bacde · Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:32 pm

I'm good man

I'm trying to reach out to you here

As a fellow scummer and as your potential friend

why is AA9 town? Her meta is perfect AA9 scum meta. I heard through the grapevine that AA9 continually posts "WOW THIS GAME IS TOO FAST ILL CATCH UP LATER TA TA." posts in her scum games, and then guilt trips people who suspect her. Thats exactly what she is doing in this game.

Bacde · Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:43 pm

And why am I scum?

Bacde · Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:47 pm

Nacho why are the redscum afraid of lynching you?

Thezmon REALLY didn't want to vote you, he was SO MOTIVATED to defeat me by telling me my case on you wasn't enough

tbh if I was scum I'd be stoked to lynch you

(this is assuming thezmon flips red)

Bacde · Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:48 pm

In post 3331, Nachomamma8 wrote:pa is also town as shit

when nacho flips scum this is the read to look at and analyze

Bacde · Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:51 pm

link?

Bacde · Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:52 pm

color me surprised that you had a reasonable answer to that question, btw

Bacde · Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:58 pm

Nacho might be 3rd party flavor of scum

something's sketchy about him--this isn't town nacho

I was surprised by his answer though

Bacde · Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:23 pm

OK FINE ILL PRETEND THAT I THINK YOU ARE TOWN

Jeez

I just want to be your friend

Bacde · Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:08 am

CTD, fullisade

do you guys want to talk or something?

cuz if not we got a lynch to do

Bacde · Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:48 am

If I'm still alive tomorrow we can talk town core

but I won't be so

Bacde · Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:30 am

VOTE: Nachomamma8

Pretty sure thats our last bluescum

also, lol @ Bulba dude I just FORCED town to lynch a scum, and I'm still on the scumlist?

Bacde · Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:31 am

Lol @ Slandaar

I called it man, you got a tendency to tunnel on town

Bacde · Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:32 am

WOAH WOAH WOAH Bulba you have Nachomamma8 as higher on your reads list than I am?

WTF are you smoking?

Bacde · Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:34 am

I mean MAYBE I could be redscum fypov (who we are still assuming exists? It could be purplescum or magentascum or blackscum even, but the other scumteam basically), but Nacho DEFINITELY doesn't deserve to be higher than me on the list

Especially because he was right SMACK DAB in the middle of the wagon on thezmon, which is a scum favorite

I'm guessing Red Ryu bussed nacho to throw us off, I've seen Red Ryu bus as scum before so I wouldn't be surprised for him to do it again

Bacde · Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:35 am

In post 3334, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 3332, Bacde wrote:Nacho why are the redscum afraid of lynching you?
I read thez wrong in Street Racers. I helped him dodge a lynch in Street Racers. It's not that hard to assume that he thinks I'll defend him again, but this time I just ignored him until something interesting came up.

In post 3337, Nachomamma8 wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=24478

I read this game btw, no your explanation doesn't make any sense. You died n1, and had minimal impact on the game. I doubt he was defending you hoping that you'd defend him back. Much more likely that you are scum buddies.

Bacde · Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:36 am

Haylen/ThAd/AA9 tomorrow

Lets reduce our nightkills by one today

Bacde · Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:38 am

In post 3364, Bulbazak wrote:Scum
Seanald
Om the Destroyer
penguin_alien
ArcAngel9
Slandaar
Nero Cain
Ffullisade

You realize there's likely only 4 scum left, right? (Not considering 3rd parties here)

Bacde · Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:03 pm

In post 3386, Rena wrote:Hey bacde, who did you target last night, as vig?

I'm actually not vig, I was trying to draw the nightkill

I'm a reflexive night-vengeful townie

Bacde · Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:05 pm

In post 3388, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 3385, Nero Cain wrote:all that scum hunting from the Haylen slot.

vote: Haylen/Rena

Vote: Nero Cain

Both are generally solid votes.

explain neroscum to me please

Bacde · Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:39 pm

In post 3392, Rena wrote:
In post 3389, Bacde wrote:
In post 3386, Rena wrote:Hey bacde, who did you target last night, as vig?
I'm actually not vig, I was trying to draw the nightkill

I'm a reflexive night-vengeful townie
I don't believe you. Only idiot scum would target Thor over you.

or smart scum who figured out that I'm trying to get nightkilled

Bacde · Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:41 pm

In post 3392, Rena wrote:
In post 3389, Bacde wrote:
In post 3386, Rena wrote:Hey bacde, who did you target last night, as vig?
I'm actually not vig, I was trying to draw the nightkill

I'm a reflexive night-vengeful townie
I don't believe you. Only idiot scum would target Thor over you.

seriously, what are you trying to accuse me of here?

We have 2 scumteams--they BOTH chose not to kill me

even if I was scum, there's a GUARANTEED scumteam that didn't try to nightkill me

Bacde · Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:42 pm

And if you are so interested in who I targetted, why didn't you ask Nero who he fake-vigged?

Bacde · Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:13 am

In post 3402, ffullisade wrote:
In post 3399, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 3398, Nero Cain wrote:Why? He's prob town 'cause scumcho was voting for him.
It's things like this which make me scumread you.
You don't have a scumread on me that's strong enough for you to vote me.
But it is strong enough to declare other people town when I vote them.

Bahzinga

this is the towniest that you have sounded all game.

but I like nero's vote cos the only player that rena asked about with her entrance was me specifically and yet she did nothing with that what you gave her which tbh, was not much, you actually tried with thor.

speaking of thor holy hell

oh my god you are scratching and clawing to find reasons to call nacho town

look, I want him to be town too

but he's not

Bacde · Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:19 am

In post 3408, ThAdmiral wrote:
In post 3405, Nachomamma8 wrote: Desperado was someone who I was willing to lynch day one as I think he was the bets option out of the main wagons. I'd still be pretty happy to lynch him, but there are probably others I would lynch first.

I will just note, however, that the people who got off the thez wagon get townpoints for me. I don't see much point in trying to get off a wagon of a scumbuddy that is almost certainly going down. Therefore fullisade, amethyst and crashtextdummy get points.

Please tell me more about how you're bullshitting everything

Bacde · Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:19 am

no idea why that post says nachomamma8, it was from thAd

Bacde · Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:20 am

In post 3397, Kublai Khan wrote:
Vote: Bacde

Wanna hear Nachomamma8's ThAdmiral case first though.

lol alright

Bacde · Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:22 am

In post 3399, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 3398, Nero Cain wrote:Why? He's prob town 'cause scumcho was voting for him.
It's things like this which make me scumread you.
You don't have a scumread on me that's strong enough for you to vote me.
But it is strong enough to declare other people town when I vote them.

I asked nacho why he scumread nero

and he couldn't answer with an example until AFTER I asked

Was he looking for WHY nero was scum BEFORE I asked? Nope

Is nero easy to push on because he's not very charismatic? Yup

thAd and Nacho are probably different teams, since nacho is blue

I'm willing to lynch thAd today but nacho is going to be impossible to lynch and win this game for blue unless you idiots lynch him

Bacde · Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:24 am

In post 3413, Slandaar wrote:Your analysis is wrong ThAd;
Its not townpoints they should get but nonblue points.

You may think 'why would they move off a wagon not on their buddy as redscum?' there are many reasons mainly though you just need to realise redscum were hunting bluescum so if they were redscum who decided thez wasn't bluescum they would move off the wagon unless one of their buddies was in some kind of danger (not the case thez's days were numbered) afterall if they think thez is town they don't want to be part of what they think is a mislynch.

I do completely agree those who moved off are not bluescum though.

Yes, thAd is smart enough to know this

He even mentioned that I get "notblue" points, but could be red

why is it then that the others who unvoted the wagon get townpoints instead of "notblue" points?

Oh, its because he's bullshitting

Bacde · Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:23 am

In post 3417, Desperado wrote:
In post 3416, Kublai Khan wrote:I'm a forceful player. I could have easily killed the thezmon221 lynch if I wanted to. Instead I gave it life.
I doubt that.

Vote: ThAdmiral

+100 points for Desperado

Bacde · Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:27 am

In post 3429, Bulbazak wrote:You mean you wanted her to ask someone who was not a vig rather than someone who had actually claimed vig? What kind of crap logic is this? Do you not like the attention being on you, Bacde?

Yes I am afraid of attention

which is why I spammed the thread to force everyone to lynch thezmon

and is why I've been leading a controversial charge against nacho since d1

and is why I've been forcing everyone to address me and respond to my interactions w/ them (except for nacho who will only pretend to address me!)

...

Bacde · Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:28 am

In post 3423, Desperado wrote:
In post 1371, Hanzo_5 wrote:I wonder what the mafia to town ratio is?

D1 is not my day. I read mosy everyone as null. anyone can play to appear town. which is why we even have town reads. The lynch and reasoning behind it is all that will stand out to me.

@Thezmon

Your reasonless list is nothing but filler. To paraphrase you, you said "Hey im here and im doing stuff, Im not done yet so it looks like im not doing anything".

Im bringing this to light because I see it as fluff and everyone else should too.

I dont know why your fluffy. But I dont care for it. Your life no linger matters to me. Plz fix that.
Also, Thad is scum because Hanzo is scum for ^^^this and ActionDan was scum for his reaction to the pre-day 1 stuff.

wow this post is actually crazy scummy

"Hey, I have no reads, but look at this guy who has no reads! I don't like his fluff. Also, here's a lot more fluff. Also I'm not even going to push on the guy that I'm accusing of fluff posting"

Bacde · Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:33 am

Need to Lynch

Nachomamma8

Willing to Lynch

Haylen
AA9
ThAd

Bacde · Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:09 am

In post 3444, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 3439, Bacde wrote:
Need to Lynch

Nachomamma8

Willing to Lynch

Haylen
AA9
ThAd
why don't want to lynch me?

bulba, do you have any real case on me? except your only reason is that you don't like my posts?
Despo is ignoring me.. we should lynch him perhaPS!!
Cephrir, this is second time I am asking you to explain how Haylem is blue scum, your just jumped into wagon after stating your suspicious

VOTE: Cephrir

Bacde · Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:00 am

Meh Pere might be scum and bulba might be scum too

actually Pere/bulba replace nacho/AA9 nicely on my scumlist

Bacde · Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:14 am

In post 3453, Slandaar wrote:
In post 3443, PeregrineV wrote: ???- go on how?
By explaining what happened and why you think ThAd is town. And like Ceph I find it hard to believe Dan posted more than once in the qt.

yeah these are good points

Bacde · Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:31 am

Rena how much does it suck that you are scum and caught right now

Bacde · Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:39 am

In post 3491, Rena wrote:Are you deliberately misremembering to iso me as Haylen?

is this you pretending that you are not Haylen?

because thats the opposite of what you said here:

In post 2403, Rena wrote:Hi, HAYLEN here. My account is experiencing major chat issues. Because the lobby was blocking my PM, ISO and preview buttons, now SOMEONE opened a private conversation with me which I can't close and it's blocking my submit button. So until this is sorted, I'm stuck with this account.

With this many players, it we aren't going to miss one townie. Unless that one townie is THE GOLDEN TOWNIE and needs to be around sp we can win the game. Setting up a lynch for the hammer tomorrow is ridiculous when we don't know the facts or the night kills yet.

Bacde · Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:40 am

By your accounts Rena unless you are THE GOLDEN TOWNIE we can lynch you because we aren't going to miss you

Also, why are you voting for me? Unless you have a good reason then you complaining about people not giving reason (even though they are) is highly hippocritical and likely scum-motivated

Bacde · Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:45 am

@Rena your attitude towards my playerslot is illogical at best, especially with you saying that only "idiot" scum wouldn't shoot me over Thor when we likely have 2 scumteams--therefore your implication that I am scum because I didn't die at night is invalid due to me STILL being able to be shot even if I was scum

Why didn't you address this point the first time I made it, instead opting to leave your vote where it was and not interact with me?

Bacde · Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:03 am

In post 3512, Rena wrote:Also, why are we letting CTD coast through this entire game?

because he towntold that one time

Bacde · Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:32 am

In post 3469, Amethyst Kitty wrote:Slad, what's up with the sudden change in reads? You had us as town for the first two days

This feels like town-nero, I'm over-riding Mala's scum read on him

and Nacho is not blue-scum, nothing stopping him from being red-scum though

~Mara

but nacho is blue-scum though

Bacde · Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:41 am

VOTE: Rena

Using the "I'm ignoring you because you're tunneling" defense when the case on her isn't bad at all

also all the other reasons etc

nacho you are one lucky scum

Bacde · Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:26 am

In post 3523, Cephrir wrote:I've never caught a scum before! It feels awesome! *squeals like a little girl*

Right?!

I was pretty stoked about yesterday tbh, so I'ma give you a chance to have the same fun

Bacde · Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:47 am

In post 3527, Bulbazak wrote:This is sudden. Reasons please.

I dunno a bunch of people were saying Pere/Bulba and I got caught up in the emotions of it all

plus, Nacho (who is one of my scumspects) defended AA9 (who is another one of my scumspects), so they would make sense to me as a team, or as both of them town

My logic is hard to explain but its quite often right

Bacde · Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:02 am

In post 3533, Nachomamma8 wrote:why do you think Rena as scum would miss this point?

I don't think she missed the point

I just think she's not addressing it, the same way you aren't addressing any of my points which indicate to me that you are scum

Bacde · Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:04 am

Welp UNVOTE:

sorry about fucking up your watch plan Rena

VOTE: Nachomamma8

Bacde · Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:08 am

I have a plan:

Let's bandwagon the badass who got thezmon lynched without a case, while simultaneously complaining that there is no case on yourself when you are being bandwagoned!

Holy butt you are trying to give me a hernia aren't you Rena

Bacde · Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:12 am

Actually, thinking about it

Like half the playerlist had thor as "null" or "suspicious" or "scum", why the BUTT would you be planning on watching him over me? Honestly it would have made a LOT more sense for scum to kill me, since I'm a badass and calling out the scum left and right

The way you've set this up sounds a LOT like you are trying to make me look bad and blame me for your "missed watch" when honestly it would have been better to watch me anyway since I don't understand why they targetted Thor (who sheeped scumcho, lied about being willing to sheep me, and probably never voted scum this game)

Actually, I'm willing to throw my vote back down on Rena, but as long as she is alive we can confirm her in some way probably (although I've seen a mafia watcher before) so we should probably lynch nacho for the last bluescum

Bacde · Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:13 am

In post 3551, Bulbazak wrote:
In post 3549, Bacde wrote: Let's bandwagon the badass who got thezmon lynched without a case
This does not give you towncred in potential multiball. Flail harder.

I like how you're accusing me of flailing

its cute

Bacde · Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:16 am

Me bringing up that I lynched thezmon isn't my attempt at "town cred" dumbass

its my proof that I'm a badass

Bacde · Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:17 am

In post 3554, Bulbazak wrote:
In post 3552, Bacde wrote: Like half the playerlist had thor as "null" or "suspicious" or "scum", why the BUTT would you be planning on watching him over me? Honestly it would have made a LOT more sense for scum to kill me, since I'm a badass and calling out the scum left and right
Actually, you provide chaos and fill the thread up with noise. Why would scum want to kill you again?

I dunno, for some reason scum still thinks that I'm lynchable

they'll probably figure out that I'm not eventually

I hope not though

Bacde · Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:18 am

In post 3554, Bulbazak wrote:
In post 3552, Bacde wrote: Like half the playerlist had thor as "null" or "suspicious" or "scum", why the BUTT would you be planning on watching him over me? Honestly it would have made a LOT more sense for scum to kill me, since I'm a badass and calling out the scum left and right
Actually, you provide chaos and fill the thread up with noise. Why would scum want to kill you again?

Why was my case yesterday that got thezmon lynched "noise" again?

If you notice, NO ONE voted due to my case UNTIL I SPAMMED IT OVER AND OVER, and people STILL ignored it for the longest time

Bacde · Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:25 am

Right, I'm saying that I don't understand why you think Thor would have led you to the other scumteam, because honestly I think thor was a dumb kill for scum to make

You didn't address that point of confusion in any way

Your getting mad about my PR claim is VERY similar to the way thezmon got mad about my PR claim, btw

Bacde · Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:25 am

I'm implying that you are being scummy. Explicitly.

Bacde · Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:26 am

but I can imagine you, as scum, NKing thor and being like "oh shit when they all vote for me tomorrow I'ma claim watcher like I've crumbed and say that I watched bacade instead of Thor and get really upset with him and try to get him lynched"

Bacde · Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:29 am

In post 3563, Nachomamma8 wrote:except the early push on Red Ryu, who was scum. remember him?

who?

Bacde · Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:30 am

In post 3563, Nachomamma8 wrote:what points have i not addressed?

Lets play this in reverse:

what points have you addressed?

Bacde · Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:31 am

Howabout when you demanded me to sheep your reads that you previously admitted yourself were bad, just because you wanted to look like town emotionally in the heat of the moment?

Bacde · Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:32 am

tomatoes don't forget

Bacde · Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:35 am

Nacho it looks like you're posturing to switch to a bacde-vote so you might as well do it now

Bacde · Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:36 am

In post 3570, Rena wrote:This will be WIFOM but I'll say it anyway. It would be absolutely stupid for me to fakeclaim an investigation type role in my third mastin game after having a successful cop fake-claim in my last mastin game. Guaranteed someone would go back and take a look at that game to get a feel of the mods setup ideas and stumble upon how that game ended. Especially if it's an investigative role I had no experience of how to play.

ugh why are you discrediting your defense before you even say it

thats like, such a scum thing to do

Dude I'm already in analysis paralysis about what to do w/ your slot, don't make it harder

Bacde · Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:52 am

In post 3573, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1827, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1687, Bacde wrote:I think the "Nacho demanded I follow his scumreads in the heat of the moment" despite him saying that he is "not happy about his reads" is a pretty good reason to say nacho is scum
I said that a very long time ago in 1478:
In post 1478, Nachomamma8 wrote:Mollie, Bacde, I'm not screaming at you guys for being idiots this game because you do have a point because I'm not exactly happy with my reads yet. It's not that I'm lacking motivation for this game and it isn't that I'm being useless (that's bullshit, Bacde), but I definitely am not being as aggressive and on point this game because I just don't have things worked out yet. I have a pretty good scumread in Desperado, a pretty decent town core, but I don't feel comfortable with the game to the point that I usually do. Although, Bacde:

In post 1459, Bacde wrote:if nacho flips town you are suspect #1
If I flip town, you're living in my scumlist for a while. You owe me that much.
Notice the word "yet". As in I'm confident that I'll be perfectly happy with my reads by then. Hell, I'm pretty happy with my reads now.
Next point I haven't addressed, please.

Dude if your "yet" post indicated that you needed time before you would have strong reads, why did you demand that I follow your reads only 19 posts later?

That doesn't really seem like enough time for you to suddenly become confident of your reads

Bacde · Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:53 am

In post 3577, Nachomamma8 wrote:bacccdddeeeeee

sorry I was collating some envelopes I'm an in-and-out player you know this

Bacde · Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:35 am

In post 3597, ffullisade wrote:people I want to hear from about rena's claim:

I'm paranoid as balls

Bacde · Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:50 am

In post 3604, Nachomamma8 wrote:hey bacde

sup

Bacde · Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:54 am

well you didn't even address the one in an adequate way because I don't understand your "sexy" reads post so

start with that if you want me to move on to another point

Bacde · Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:54 am

In post 3623, Nero Cain wrote:Still think its a possibility that Bcade was early distancing from scumCho.

Do you really think this?

I'm so amazed by this I just need you to confirm that you actually think this

Bacde · Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:25 am

In post 3644, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3640, Bacde wrote:
In post 3623, Nero Cain wrote:Still think its a possibility that Bcade was early distancing from scumCho.
Do you really think this?

I'm so amazed by this I just need you to confirm that you actually think this
yep, scum never ever attack each other. Its so silly for me to think they do.

So you thinking that nacho and I could be scum together is just based on me attacking him?

Its hard for me to discern what you actually believe when all your responses to my questions are sarcastic and defensive

Bacde · Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:03 pm

quotes and stuff for the dumb ones like me plz nero kthx

Bacde · Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:45 pm

In post 3664, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 3504, Rena wrote:I read that Kublai and ignored it because bullshitz.
You can't ignore reasons then accuse people of voting you without reason.

That said, I believe your claim. It's testable and makes sense given the flipped ninja. Also, I've got a town read on you.

In post 3546, Bulbazak wrote:Btw, whatever happened to penguin? I had them down as a likely blue partner.
He's still a likely blue partner.

---
In post 3628, Slandaar wrote:
In post 3627, ThAdmiral wrote: What use is a ninja
unless
town has something like a watcher?
Well if Haylen is Redscum... But that was my mistake.
That reply makes no sense. You said you "don't see how a town watcher workins within the setup" not "how a redscum watcher".
----
Reasons for voting Bacde:

In post 2820, Bacde wrote:I'm assuming the other mafia is red (since a red/blue dichotomy makes sense)

Nacho is obvredscum who shot red ryu for being a huge supporter of the nacho wagon, but also as an attempt to discredit the wagon by leaving the largest and towniest supporters alive

I bet he was hoping red ryu would flip scum to discredit the wagon

don't let it fool you boys

VOTE: Nacho

In post 3367, Bacde wrote:VOTE: Nachomamma8

Pretty sure thats our last bluescum
To anyone that's bothering to read Bacde's posts, it's obvious that he's tunneling on Nachomamma8 as a sort of default mode. It's meant to look like confirmation bias (tunneling town), but it's starting to look really fake. Look at these two quotes from his opening Day 2 and Day 3 posts. "Nacho is obv redscum!" "Nacho is bluescum". Tunneling town have a consistent, if flawed, viewpoint. Bacde is just staying on message and not keeping track of whether his message is logical.

Keeping those two quotes in mind:
In post 3372, Bacde wrote:Lets reduce our nightkills by one today
This is the real reason why the message switched to "Nacho is bluescum". Scumteams in a multiball setup usually prioritize killing off other scumteams because night-kills are much harder to defend against than lynches. Especially if they think the competing scumteam is down to one last member. Note that Bacde this quotes shows that A) Bacde knows FOR SURE that it's scumteam v scumteam v town instead of scumteam v SK v town. The naming of a scumteam heavily suggests that it's multiball, but it shouldn't be considered a confirmed fact. And B) Bacde knows FOR SURE that the blue scum team has only 3 members (i.e. lynching blue today eliminates the team).

Also this is weird as fuck:
In post 3370, Bacde wrote:I mean MAYBE I could be redscum fypov (who we are still assuming exists? It could be purplescum or magentascum or blackscum even, but the other scumteam basically), but Nacho DEFINITELY doesn't deserve to be higher than me on the list
This is a really weird backpedal from having called the second scumteam the red scum. Nobody really cared, so why make this rhetorical question? I'm guessing that Bacde's red scummates gave him shit for stating their color.

In post 3389, Bacde wrote:
In post 3386, Rena wrote:Hey bacde, who did you target last night, as vig?
I'm actually not vig, I was trying to draw the nightkill

I'm a reflexive night-vengeful townie
Hey, it's another bullshit fakeclaim. And it's the second fakeclaim to revolve around the ability to kill. Someone is trying to justify being linked to a murder later in the future.

In post 3555, Bacde wrote:Me bringing up that I lynched thezmon isn't my attempt at "town cred" dumbass
It totally is. You've done it four times now.

In post 3623, Nero Cain wrote:Still think its a possibility that Bcade was early distancing from scumCho.
I don't think so. Given that they have history, it looks more like scum-Bacde obfuscating any potential read that Nachomamma8 can get on him.

hey kublai khan I totally understand you and can understand why you think I'm mafia

but you gotta trust me

because I promise you that I am town in this game

the reason that my reasoning on nacho switched from red to blue scum was because I saw thezmon as a partner of nacho, and thezmon flipped blue

it kind of fit in with red ryu being on the same scum team, because I've seen him attempt to bus before

Before that though, I didn't think red ryu was bussing, I just figured he was trying to get in a mislynch

The only reason I was investigative towards thezmon in the first place was because I thought he was being weird about nacho, who I've been suspicious of this whole game

Nacho is acting skeezy imo and nothing he's done has changed that

I helped you lynch scum before, just work with me til it stops paying off at least?

Bacde · Fri Jun 14, 2013 5:06 am

UNVOTE:

who are we getting slandaar

hopefully its a scum this time

Bacde · Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:30 am

VOTE: ThAd
why not

Bacde · Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:59 am

UGH WE ARE IN A PICKLE YET AGAIN

CAN'T WE ALL JUST AGREE TO LYNCH SOMEBODY

Bacde · Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:00 am

SOMEBODY IMPLY THAT I AM MAFIA AND THEN DENY IT LATER ON PLEASE

Bacde · Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:27 am

In post 3679, Bulbazak wrote:It was essentially the Boy Who Cried Wolf at that point.

Dude I'm so over being on the same planet as you

You are assuming nacho is town

Not to mention your read is based on "this feels like town nacho" which first of all, no it doesn't, and second of all, THIS FEELS LIKE TOWN BACDE HOW DO I NOT GET THE SAME READ?!

Bacde · Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:28 am

I'ma sheep Slandaar on this one I guess? You were wrong about Thor but I'm buying ThAd

VOTE: ThAd

Bacde · Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:22 am

In post 3684, Bulbazak wrote:I have no idea what town Bacde looks like.

what does town nacho feel like?

how is town nacho different than scum nacho?

If you can't adequately answer this question, then your read on nacho is bullshit and you should realize it

Bacde · Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:15 am

In post 3686, Bulbazak wrote:I've never played against scum Nacho. However, Nacho's play in this game is consistent with the other times I've played with him. From my experience, he's a very laid back scumhunter, but he tends to ask some very pressing questions from time to time that helps with the scumhunting, and he tends to notice things that others do not. His train of thought this game also feels genuine, and I do not see anything even remotely scummy concerning his play.

What would you expect from scumcho?

What about his suspicion of OS read as genuine to you?

Bacde · Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:19 pm

Nacho are you serious about this nero scumread

cuz I'ma need you to walk me through this

if you're right, you would completely change my read on you

so I wanna see this

Bacde · Sat Jun 15, 2013 6:23 am

In post 3713, Kublai Khan wrote:Well, scum would never promise to be town.

and neither would town, apparently

In post 3713, Kublai Khan wrote:The bolded part is the sort of thing that you need to explain in convincing detail.

Also, why are you basing everything on scum bussing each other. Why would scum bus each other hard in a multiball setup?

Again, I didn't think they would. That's why I thought nacho was redscum, because Red Ryu was voting for him and pushing him so hard.

Thezmon I saw as a link to scumcho, since he was the one being THE MOST fency and weird about me voting for nacho. So I strung him up. But he flipped blue--

the only natural conclusion I could make, that continued my train of thought of the thezmon-nacho link, was to assume that nacho is indeed bluescum

.

This is actually pretty easy to follow

In post 3713, Kublai Khan wrote:Should I take that as an admission of guilt?

No, no you shouldn't

In post 3713, Kublai Khan wrote:Also, I'm disappointed in a lot of you for not even looking at my Bacde case.

I've looked at it, and quite frankly so has everyone else probably.

Bacde · Sat Jun 15, 2013 6:42 am

In post 3705, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3455, Desperado wrote:Peregrine...you claim that DLG and actiondan confirmed themselves as town before day one started. You are more than capable of paraphrasing how they came to this conclusion. Or maybe you could even offer a hypothetical scenario where this would be possible. Because I'm drawing a blank.
After ActionDan propositioned DLG and DLG, weeping, stated how that love must remain unrequited, they decided that even though there love was never meant to be, at least they shared a win condition. And dammit, that was good enough for them.
Then, I came in, and not to be an ass, I decided that I too, loved Hanzo the mute. Hanzo the mute said nothing, but ThAd came and promised not to screw me over like last time. And dammit, that was good enough for us.
We also chatted somewhat, but let's be honest, we both replaced in 100+ pages, so current events are way more relevant to us at this point.

Do you have reason to believe that your lover-ship is alignment indicative?

Bacde · Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:09 am

In post 3720, Kublai Khan wrote:Are you just telling me anything I want to hear to get someone lynched?

That's what I did to get thezmon lynched

Bacde · Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:52 am

In post 3722, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 3721, Bacde wrote:
In post 3720, Kublai Khan wrote:Are you just telling me anything I want to hear to get someone lynched?
That's what I did to get thezmon lynched
At what point did you realize that I wasn't talking to you there?

I still haven't realized it

Bacde · Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:54 am

In post 3723, Nero Cain wrote:I find Nacho scummy. Bacde is playing different then I've seen him as town + it looks like he's being pretty fickle. Weather they are bussing or from different scum teams, I don't really care. Its also possible that one is town (bcade?) and the other is scum.

How have you seen me play as town before?

I ask because in the only other large game we both played in (Pikmin), I played pretty much the exact same except I didn't claim scum in this game

At least I assume I played the same cuz I don't see why it would be different

Bacde · Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:35 am

I don't mean "HOW" I mean like "how"

like, how do I play when you've seen me as town, and how is that different in this game

Bacde · Sat Jun 15, 2013 6:17 pm

VOTE: Seanald

who's down for this lynch?

Bacde · Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:01 pm

You're pulling on my heartstrings with that bait-and-switch Mara

Bacde · Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:37 am

In post 3740, penguin_alien wrote:I don't know about Bacde still, but I do know that his play was scummy enough as town in just-completed Mini 1439 to eat a vig bullet Night One. Although it overlapped with scum killing him too

dude you made me reread that game and I feel waaay better knowing that I was NKed by scum, I thought I was just vigged which sucked

Bacde · Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:29 am

VOTE: Nachomamma8

this is the lynch for today

tonight you (thAd) shoot between nero/AK depending on nacho's flip

if nacho flips scum, shoot AK

if nacho flips town, shoot nero

capiche?

I think I've earned enough town-cred in this game to lead the lynch in this situation

Well, I'm going to spend that town-cred right now in this lynch on nachomamma8. But this isn't just spending the town-cred, this is an investment. Because so many scum are about to die, you are all about to go "HOLY COW BACDE IS SO RIDICULOUSLY TOWN I CAN'T HANDLE THIS"

Bacde · Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:50 am

Right now the case is:

A nacho flip will inform thAd in the most significant way for him to be able to make an effective vig kill

Bacde · Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:56 am

Yo Desp

we are lynching nacho

Bacde · Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:57 am

Also I'm super confident about my ability to read nacho right now

Bacde · Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:11 am

I can understand your paranoia

I'm paranoid about you too man

but I'm pretty sure that nacho will flip scum which means that AK would be shot

Who would be better for getting shot if nacho flips town? Me? I'll substitute in for you to be shot if you're really that afraid.

Bacde · Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:49 am

In post 3783, Nero Cain wrote:.....................

my point is that there's no reason at all to suspect me other than the fact that I suspect both of you so it looks like nothing more than OMGUS. wHY DO YOU SUSPECT ME bACDE?

I dunno, I don't particularly suspect you beyond OMGUS (especially because I don't understand why you have had a continuing suspicion of me for a few days)

but Nacho is a good scumhunter, and he suspects you

so I figure if we flip nacho and he winds up town you'd be a good vig shot

but I'm willing to substitute in your place its not a big deal especially since I'm pretty sure nacho is scum

are you being defensive right now? Its hard for me to tell whats going on inside your head

Bacde · Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:18 am

In post 3787, Amethyst Kitty wrote:Bacade stfu. You aren't fucking obv town. So just stfu.

woah thsi is definitely malakittens

why are you so upset with me?

I haven't even said that I'm obvtown for at least 3 pages

Bacde · Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:48 am

In post 3803, Amethyst Kitty wrote:Reading it from any player just makes me want to cringe. You are trying to use your "cred" to justify a lynch on a player. Why don't you try and use another method that doesn't involve "Arching your back, making your tail look puffy" to make yourselve look bigger then you really are?

what if I am really big though

cuz in this game I feel big

Bacde · Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:51 am

In post 3810, Nero Cain wrote:yep, only town would want to get mislynched/vigged. I'm so scummy for not wanting to waste a lynch/vig shot.

This whole "Nacho is a good scumhunter so he as town has to be correct about Nero." is nothing but a big pile of bullshit and potential chain lynching. It also seems incredibly lazy.

Who are your top 4 scum reads?

dude chill out this isn't a "bacde is wrong so I need to push back on him" situation

I'm not even attacking you

notice how I didn't even accuse you of being defensive? I literally

asked

you if you were being defensive (hint: you are now)

Either way, fine replace me on the vig list I don't even care

we lynch nacho, if he flips town then I get vigged, and if I get vigged then nero gets lynched due to all this weird defensiveness

if nacho flips scum, then AK gets vigged

Bacde · Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:40 am

I'm probably willing to lynch AK

but I'm gonna wait til there's a few more votes on it so I can fit into the butter zone better

still I'd rather get nacho

I dunno I'm just sure about this

Bacde · Wed Jun 19, 2013 6:54 am

I'd rather lynch nacho tbh

Kublai is weird but probably town

I was surprised by him voting me today, but I think he will realize that his case on me was just not true

Bacde · Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:13 am

In post 3950, Seanald wrote:UNVOTE: ceph

VOTE: AK

yeah sorry I just can't stand cry babies.

I mean I get the feeling that what your doing now is very frustrated town flailing but, your just too annoying for me right now, if you can calm down and start doing things logically I'll probably take this vote off.

what the butt dude

worst vote ever

Bacde · Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:14 am

In post 3945, Amethyst Kitty wrote:KHAN ADMITTED TO KILLING RED RYU LETS LYNCH THAT FUCKER!!!

Bacde.
~Mara

where/when did this happen?

quote plz

Bacde · Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:20 am

That looks weak AK

Bacde · Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:31 am

The thing is, nacho is bluescum so it makes sense that other colors of scum would just vote for him with shoddy reasoning

I don't like the people who are voting AK looking for bluescum, she's either red or third or town

Bacde · Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:51 am

if AK flips green/red scum I accept being lynched on the next day cuz I'm not feeling this lynch right now and probably won't vote it

Bacde · Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:23 am

That would be funny if bluescum was our only scumteam

Bacde · Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:17 am

In post 4073, Cephrir wrote:I think it's very possible.

She could also be lying, though the no result on Bacde would be incredibly ballsy.

Dude I was so disappointed by the idea of no one visiting me

;_;

Bacde · Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:23 am

Can't say that I disagree w/ the Seanald wagon

but he was like, the most interesting scum in this game, honestly I would have preferred to lynch his buddies first

Bacde · Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:31 am

Yeah Seanald doesn't make sense as blue unless the whole scumteam is blue, just because Nacho is the last blue

Bacde · Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:09 am

Once again, if Nero flips scum I will reconsider my case on nacho

Bacde · Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:35 pm

Man I really like Desperado right now

Bacde · Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:41 am

Meh, I'm willing to pretend I think nacho is town today

at least he's putting on the appearance of being helpful

UNVOTE:

Bacde · Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:27 am

if thAd shoots CTD I'ma be pissed

I actually want to sheep nacho's Nero Cain read right now

VOTE: Nero Cain

Hey I just sheeped you

and this is crazy

but here's my vote now

so call me lazy

Bacde · Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:28 am

If Nero flips town then maybe blue scum is the only scum in the game and both Seanald and Nacho are in it

I don't think thats the case though

Bacde · Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:17 pm

There's no way that everyone here with all these feels are town\

no way

Bacde · Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:29 pm

So you are no longer suspicious of nacho?

Bacde · Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:52 am

I'm still game to lynch nacho

Bacde · Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:04 am

hey whats up nero

I'd prefer if you call me Bacde but whatever

Bacde · Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:07 am

VOTE: nacho

he keeps leading these crappy wagons

and then we townread him for it

and then we realize that the wagon is crappy

but then we never hold him accountable

I will do it! I will hold scumcho accountable

Bacde · Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:08 am

In post 4345, Nero Cain wrote:I'll call you by your real name after you flip

apparently my real name on these boards is Pedro

which is hilarious

anyway I'm not scum so I fixed your quote

Bacde · Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:08 am

Seriously even if I was scum I've killed the most scum out of anyone here it would make sense to leave me alive imo

Bacde · Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:11 am

Eh I dunno

I guess I'm sitting on the fence about him

I could waffle one way or the other though

Bacde · Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:12 am

What parts of bulb are you looking at to inform your read of him? I don't even know what I should be looking at when I read his posts

its like, I disagree with everything he's saying but he really looks like he believes it

Bacde · Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:54 am

It doesn't need the addendum. Nero still made it to 4 votes first. Then he made it to 5 votes, then he made it back down to 4.

Bacde · Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:56 am

In post 4356, Nero Cain wrote:I'm mainly looking at deflect gate but this

In post 4081, Bulbazak wrote:In post 4035, ffullisade wrote:I think you are red scum and there is someone on your team who is coaching you
Are you suggesting that the red scum team has day talk?
and this

In post 3434, Bulbazak wrote:
In post 3433, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3407, Kublai Khan wrote:Okay, I want to hear Nero Cain's Haylen/Rena case. Is it more than just "no scumhunting"?
No, not really. I mean this looks like scum lurking to me. + I like what Cephir pulled up.
You mean Fuzzy liking a cute fox picture?
seem pretty dumb to me.

+ there's the fact that he didn't vote scumThez which I find rather odd.

I guess bulba has been rather mechanical this game

especially with his posts that go "on to page 135" and then "on to page 148" which have the feel of post-by-posting but never seem to truly follow up with great insight

I might be willing to vote bulba

Bacde · Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:38 am

In post 4354, ffullisade wrote:
In post 4346, Bacde wrote:VOTE: nacho

he keeps leading these crappy wagons

and then we townread him for it

and then we realize that the wagon is crappy

but then we never hold him accountable

I will do it! I will hold scumcho accountable
bacde, you freak me out because dragonballz.

- f

What relevance does that game have to this one?

Bacde · Mon Jul 01, 2013 6:03 am

Hey guys, I'm feeling lost and I was gone all weekend so I'll figure this out soon

Bacde · Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:27 pm

I could go for lynching either seanald or bulba

probably bulba has a higher chance of flipping maf though

Bacde · Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:10 pm

In post 4586, ffullisade wrote:bacde

I have some stuff to talk about. You around?

- f

yo

Bacde · Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:20 pm

In post 4592, ffullisade wrote:y u so quiet?

You helicopter in occasionally to push a Nacho lynch, but don't seem to really care about anything else in the game.

lol right?

I wanna lynch nacho but I'm willing to compromise on AK or bulb

Honestly Seanald is probably scum, I was just surprised by how fast the wagon on him formed

Anyway I'm mostly quiet because I think all the scum figured out they can't imply I'm mafia and get away with it anymore, so I dunno who else to hunt

Like, nacho is for sure scum but he isn't getting lynched for some reason so I dunno what else to do

Bacde · Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:40 pm

In post 4596, ffullisade wrote:We want to lynch Rena.

I mean Molly is like screaming about it right now.

Yeah but if someone else had visited me instead of Rena wouldn't they have claimed by now?

Rena is probably a scum roleblocker and town doesn't have the cajones to lynch it

Bacde · Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:43 am

VOTE: bulba

lets do this

Bacde · Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:15 am

What a surprise the town lynched someone I did not support the lynch of and they flipped town

Vote: Nachomamma8

I am willing to switch to bulb or AK

Bacde · Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:30 am

meh maybe I'll lynch nero

I'm surprised that you have me as scum for some reason which doesn't make much sense to me but whatever I'm really not worried about being lynched

Bacde · Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:09 am

In post 4839, Bulbazak wrote:
In post 4837, Bacde wrote: I'm surprised that you have me as scum for some reason which doesn't make much sense to me but whatever I'm really not worried about being lynched
I'm trying to figure you out. Your play is not the same as the town game I've seen. Also, I don't know whether your tunnel on Nacho is town or scum motivated.

Well nacho is scum so I'd say town motivated

Seriously, when Bacde has a better track record than nachomamma8 at finding scum in a game its time to start reconsidering your town-read on nacho

Bacde · Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:22 am

In post 4842, Bulbazak wrote:P-edit: Bacde, that's a 7for7 fallacy. That does not mean that you're town and Nacho's scum, especially when we're in multiball.

Just because its a "logical fallacy" (emphasis on quotation marks because it technically can be construed as a fallacy) doesn't make it not true

Just because you can say "thats technically a fallacy" doesn't make my argument incorrect, and it definitely doesn't make you look town

Guess what--not all of my reasoning is founded in "strictly nonfallacious logic", and I still catch scum with it

I caught the shit out of thezmon

And I've caught nacho. He's scum.

Bacde · Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:23 am

In post 4841, Bacde wrote:Seriously, when Bacde has a better track record than nachomamma8 at finding scum in a game its time to start reconsidering your town-read on nacho

Notice how the post never says "nacho is definitely scum because Bacde has caught more scum than nacho"

So I didn't even make a 7for7 fallacy

All I'm doing is pointing out that you should consider POSSIBLY reconsidering your read on nacho

I'd say its a pretty strong argument for reconsidering your town read on nacho

Bacde · Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:26 am

I never made the argument that I am town BECAUSE I caught scum

or that Nacho is scum BECAUSE he hasn't

But we KNOW that someone here is scum, and I don't understand why you think its SO UNLIKELY to be nacho

Bacde · Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:28 am

Seriously I get really annoyed when I invest part of my emotionality into a post and all I get are responses like "logical fallacy" or "AtE"

Its like, did you seriously respond to me with THAT LITTLE effort and just completely ignore the SUBSTANCE behind my post?

Bacde · Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:36 am

In post 4848, Bulbazak wrote:@Bacde: I still have Nacho as a strong townread, especially after the way he stepped in at the end of the day yesterday. Scum could have just hung back and coasted, but Nacho chose to stick up for his townreads. I just can't see scum doing that.

Have you never defended a player who was town as scum before?

Bacde · Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:58 am

HD I'm coming to really appreciate you in my games man

I mean, I already did, but I can see that you are somewhat changing your playstyle and I love it

I can't handle all these walls

Bacde · Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:18 am

Ugh

I'm about to make a case later today probably

Bacde · Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:57 am

VOTE: ThAd