Micro 186: Vengeball (Game is over)

JasonWazza · Post Post #6 (isolation #0) » Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:16 am

VOTE: MP5

Someone is trying to fake not knowing the rules already.

JasonWazza · Post Post #17 (isolation #1) » Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:47 am

yes policy lynching a possible newblet that could possibly be a venge townie is totally a smart idea.

JasonWazza · Post Post #35 (isolation #2) » Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:04 am

That isn't the most towny post, that is just setup speculation in which it's just poor, we don't need setup spec right now cause it's pointless at this point.

JasonWazza · Post Post #38 (isolation #3) » Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:20 am

No it's going to require scumhunting, is that not logical?

Treat it like any other setup but change in this factor, unless we kill scum, the lynched townie gets to make the kill.

JasonWazza · Post Post #152 (isolation #4) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:14 am

Hey hey hey

ummm i will read what i missed because i forgot about this game among other things

JasonWazza · Post Post #153 (isolation #5) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:35 am

In post 49, Jake from State Farm wrote:
In post 14, Katsuki wrote:Yeah.. the PMs aren't exactly consistent. I couldn't find anything on wiki when I checked either.

Judging by the scum PM posted though, I assume it's just the team whos godfather is lynched loses.

Mod, you need to clarify setup.. as well as our PMs...

this one

This is bad reasoning, when someone says "our" it means more then 1 meaning it can be refering to Town PM's as well for all you know.

In post 51, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:My thought was originally that this is INSANELY town-sided because of the godfathers and it being nightless. We have 4 scum and 2 mislynches at first, and the scum might go after each other.

Not now, of course, but w/e.

Also inclined to baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa but eh too early.

It's sided either to the side with the better scumhunting (Town) or the side that will hide the best (either team of Mafia)

Because worse case scenario (for town) is;

5v2v2 - Mislynch
4v2v2 - MisVengeKill
3v2v2 - Mislynch
2v2v2 - MisVengeKill
1v2v2 - In which the townie is basically giving the win to one side

In post 62, Katsuki wrote:You give me nice godfather vibes. Plus there's already a few players I find rather townie thus far so, maybe you just got unfortunate with your role PM?

This reads as fake, how can you get "Godfather vibes" when really, Godfathers will act a lot similar to just Mafia Goons, with a partner they can willingly lynch, goons are the ones that would seem scummy for defending.

In post 66, Jake from State Farm wrote:Katsuki/Siv for 1 team

Just got to find the other.

This game is easy

Why Siv?

In post 79, Katsuki wrote:
In post 74, Jake from State Farm wrote:
In post 72, Katsuki wrote:This level of scumhunting is laughable.

But I can't even be angry given the number of scum on my wagon.
do you typically omgus or just this game?
It's not OMGUS when it's pointing out the truth. Crappy scumhunting tends to correlate with scum especially in a game of this size and nature.

And yes I "OMGUS" all the time when people make shit cases.

Lol no, OMGUS is OMGUS regardless of the fact that you MIGHT be right.

In post 91, Katsuki wrote:It's sad how obvious of a godfather you are, wisdom.

p-edit: You clearly didn't have the same confusion we did when we saw our role PM. HURR I WONDER.

This post makes no sense if your saying all PM's were wrong, just saying.

In post 103, Katsuki wrote: Ok now your case is shifting to me as a player.
Why should I research the game BEFORE the game starts? etcetc.

Because it's a game your agreeing to play?

Because you should know a setup if it's open when you in?

Because of so many other fucking reasons?

In post 124, Wisdom wrote:Listen JK.
Me and Jake are your scumreads, right?
Me and Jake are also Katsuki's scumreads.
So if Katsuki is town (which is the only reason you might not want to hammer him), he will kill one of us.
Sounds good to you, doesn't it?
So you have no reason not to hammer her, do you?

This is a bad post and you know it Wisdom

In post 130, Wisdom wrote:Good answer.
Katsuki still needs rope though.

I really don't like this reaction test, because were you actually town you would realize the quite obvious possible loss if JK had hammered.

UNVOTE: MP5
VOTE: Wisdom

JasonWazza · Post Post #237 (isolation #6) » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:17 pm

Wait a second, why did you have 3 town reads when there are only 3 town left Rift?

and you flip it now when it's useful.

VOTE: Rift Adrift

JasonWazza · Post Post #239 (isolation #7) » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:27 pm

Why would a townie not know how many town there are left?

Answer he wouldn't

Why would a scum not know how many town there a left?

Answer, he doesn't need to know, he just needs to lynch everyone else.

JasonWazza · Post Post #240 (isolation #8) » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:29 pm

In post 232, Rift Adrift wrote:
In post 153, JasonWazza wrote:This reads as fake, how can you get "Godfather vibes" when really, Godfathers will act a lot similar to just Mafia Goons, with a partner they can willingly lynch, goons are the ones that would seem scummy for defending.
Godfather numero uno

Also this was me talking from experience from vengefuls, not from being a godfather but keep stretching

JasonWazza · Post Post #293 (isolation #9) » Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:27 am

If rift is town i will be extremely surprised, seriously.

I could see Seanald

Maybe

being scum, but i somehow doubt it, seanald is being seanald.

We shouldn't be looking to lynch "godfather's" and i use the term loosely, we should be looking for Mafia.

If they happen to be the godfather then good, if not it's no loss.

JasonWazza · Post Post #295 (isolation #10) » Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:06 am

no lynching a goon would make it 3-2-1

Do this properly and think about it.

We lynch 2 people who are most scummy, both of them turn out to be goons.

3-1-1

This actually just turns the game into a proper vengeful.

Lynching someone who is more scummy is better then lynching someone who is a "godfather" because tells like that are so shit it ain't even funny.

JasonWazza · Post Post #298 (isolation #11) » Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:12 am

In post 296, MP5 wrote:
JasonWazza wrote: I could see Seanald
Maybe
being scum, but i somehow doubt it, seanald is being seanald.
Hi Jason. I assume you have yourself as town, that means from your POV there are two town left. Is seanald seriously one of your two top town reads?

I have me as town, but i am more focused on lynching the most scummy, then with a few scum flips deciding who else is scum.

I'm not gonna pretend i know which half of this town is scum.

JasonWazza · Post Post #442 (isolation #12) » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:10 pm

In post 433, Rift Adrift wrote:
In post 432, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:
In post 294, Rift Adrift wrote:
In post 293, JasonWazza wrote:If rift is town i will be extremely surprised, seriously.

I could see Seanald
Maybe
being scum, but i somehow doubt it, seanald is being seanald.

We shouldn't be looking to lynch "godfather's" and i use the term loosely, we should be looking for Mafia.

If they happen to be the godfather then good, if not it's no loss.
The bolded is not a town thought process. Lynching a goon would make it 3-3.
But this. This is what I didn't like.
Specifically what didn't you like?

I think it's very obvious what he doesn't like.

Your trying to lynch people based on "godfather" tells, when really those are pathetic tells.

Siv can you please lynch Rift, I will follow you onto Jake tomorrow.