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Post Post #3200 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:00 pm

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Sixtieth Votecount
:
(Eighth Votecount Day Two,
AKA, the "My page accuracy improved!" votecount.
)


thezmon221 - 8 (Bacde, Desperado, Kublai Khan, Nero Cain, EddieFenix, ffullisade, Nachomamma8, CrashTextDummie)

Cephrir - 3 (Amethyst Kitty, Slandaar, Seanald)

Haylen - 3 (Cephrir, Om the Destroyer, penguin_alien)
Amethyst Kitty - 1 (Thor665)
Desperado - 1 (ArcAngel9)

Not Voting - 5 (thezmon221, PeregrineV, ThAdmiral, Haylen, Bulbazak)

With
21
alive, it's
11
to lynch.

Day Two's deadline is Thursday, June 20th, @ 12:30 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-06-20 12:30:00).

If deadline hit now, thezmon221 would be lynched.

Bulbazak is V/LA over weekends indefinitely.


Spoiler: Changes from last votecount
thezmon221 - 8 (Bacde, Desperado, Kublai Khan, Nero Cain, EddieFenix, ffullisade, Nachomamma8,
CrashTextDummie
)
Haylen - 3 (Cephrir, Om the Destroyer, penguin_alien)
Cephrir - 3 (
CrashTextDummie
, Amethyst Kitty, Slandaar, Seanald)
Amethyst Kitty - 1 (Thor665)
Desperado - 1 (ArcAngel9)

Not Voting - 5 (thezmon221, PeregrineV, ThAdmiral, Haylen, Bulbazak)
Last votecount was page 128, post 3177.

Spoiler: Player Votecount History D2
thezmon221:
CrashTextDummie: Slandaar->Cephrir->thezmon221
Cephrir: Haylen
Nachomamma8: Amethyst Kitty->thezmon221
PeregrineV:
Nero Cain: Haylen->thezmon221
Bacde: Nachomamma8->thezmon221
EddieFenix: thezmon221
Bulbazak: Bacde->Unvote
Thor665: Haylen->Amethyst Kitty
Desperado: thezmon221
penguin_alien: Haylen
Slandaar: Thor665
Seanald: Cephrir
ThAdmiral:
Haylen:
Kublai Khan: thezmon221
Amethyst Kitty: EddieFenix->Unvote->Cephrir
ffullisade: Thor665->thezmon221
Om the Destroyer: Haylen
ArcAngel9: Desperado


Spoiler: Votecount History D2
On Fri, May 5/31/13 @ 01:48p,
Bacde
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 2820.
On Fri, May 5/31/13 @ 01:56p,
Amethyst Kitty
votes
EddieFenix
in post 2823.
On Fri, May 5/31/13 @ 03:25p,
Bulbazak
votes
Bacde
in post 2830.
On Fri, May 5/31/13 @ 03:39p,
ArcAngel9
votes
Desperado
in post 2839.
On Fri, May 5/31/13 @ 03:44p,
Cephrir
votes
Haylen
in post 2842.
On Fri, May 5/31/13 @ 04:00p,
Slandaar
votes
Thor665
in post 2852.
On Fri, May 5/31/13 @ 05:58p,
Om the Destroyer
votes
Haylen
in post 2902.
On Fri, May 5/31/13 @ 05:58p,
CrashTextDummie
votes
Slandaar
in post 2903.
On Fri, May 5/31/13 @ 06:24p,
Nero Cain
votes
Haylen
in post 2914.
On Fri, May 5/31/13 @ 07:22p,
CrashTextDummie
unvotes
Slandaar
and votes
Cephrir
in post 2922.
On Fri, May 5/31/13 @ 10:11p,
Thor665
votes
Haylen
in post 2947.
On Fri, May 5/31/13 @ 11:47p,
Bulbazak
unvotes
Bacde
in post 2967.
On Sat, Jun 6/01/13 @ 00:16a,
Amethyst Kitty
unvotes
EddieFenix
in post 2972.
On Sat, Jun 6/01/13 @ 11:54p,
ffullisade
votes
Thor665
in post 3022.
On Sun, Jun 6/02/13 @ 12:21p,
penguin_alien
votes
Haylen
in post 3030.
On Sun, Jun 6/02/13 @ 05:23p,
Bacde
votes
thezmon221
in post 3051.
On Sun, Jun 6/02/13 @ 06:50p,
Desperado
votes
thezmon221
in post 3077.
On Sun, Jun 6/02/13 @ 07:16p,
Nachomamma8
votes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 3084.
On Sun, Jun 6/02/13 @ 07:30p,
Thor665
unvotes
Haylen
and votes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 3089.
On Mon, Jun 6/03/13 @ 04:38a,
Amethyst Kitty
votes
Cephrir
in post 3106.
On Mon, Jun 6/03/13 @ 06:19a,
Slandaar
votes
Cephrir
in post 3108.
On Mon, Jun 6/03/13 @ 11:45a,
Kublai Khan
votes
thezmon221
in post 3144.
On Mon, Jun 6/03/13 @ 12:03p,
Nero Cain
votes
thezmon221
in post 3151.
On Mon, Jun 6/03/13 @ 12:44p,
EddieFenix
votes
thezmon221
in post 3153.
On Mon, Jun 6/03/13 @ 01:31p,
ffullisade
votes
thezmon221
in post 3158.
On Mon, Jun 6/03/13 @ 02:51p,
Nachomamma8
votes
thezmon221
in post 3166.
On Mon, Jun 6/03/13 @ 03:11p,
Seanald
votes
Cephrir
in post 3167.
On Mon, Jun 6/03/13 @ 04:30p,
CrashTextDummie
unvotes
Cephrir
and votes
thezmon221
in post 3192.
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Post Post #3201 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:37 pm

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In post 3178, Bacde wrote:
In post 3150, Bacde wrote:
In post 3125, Bacde wrote:
In post 3103, Bacde wrote:
In post 3065, Bacde wrote:
In post 3061, thezmon221 wrote:What kind of posts are you reading? I never implied you're scum. I think you're delusional and useless town.
YES!


Town, I saved you. Thank me later. LOL! this is great :D :D :D

He just literally lied because he can't keep track of his opinions that are displayed in his posts. Lets look at this gem right here:
In post 3044, thezmon221 wrote:1) You know who doesn't have reads that change after flips (especially two flips)? Scum. Scum doesn't need to change their reads. Your case on Nacho is exactly the same as it was D1: Crap.
This is Thezmon's argument:

1) Bacde does A
2) Scum do A

3 (assumption) Town is much less likely to do A

4) (inference/implication) Bacde is scum

Yet he denies it.

Sheep Bacde. Scumhunting made easy.

--------

Possible Objections: But you inserted the assumption that town is much less likely to do A! Maybe thezmon doesn't actually think that!

Counter-argument: If thezmon actually doesn't have that assumption, then why did he even include the "You know who does A? Scum do A" part of his post? I can't imagine a town making that statement without the intention of implying that I am scum.
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Post Post #3202 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:46 pm

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Hi. Reading. Apparently when I say "I'm catching up on sleep" I mean I'm going to sleep for two days with a bit of waking in between.
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Post Post #3203 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:48 pm

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Bacde, stop.
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Post Post #3204 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:55 pm

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:(
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Post Post #3205 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:07 pm

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^you. Why are you making deals with people you don't know are town?

You don't seem to care about the town losing with those methods.
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Post Post #3206 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:08 pm

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How many people have said I'm scum without reasoning yet? Haha
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Post Post #3207 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:09 pm

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Vote Bacde
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Post Post #3208 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:12 pm

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Nacho, Bacde where is the town core?

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Post Post #3209 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:28 pm

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In post 2975, Rena wrote:The wagon on me is probably scum driven.
Who was scum the scum driving your wagon?

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Post Post #3210 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:47 pm

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In post 3154, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 2916, Cephrir wrote:AA9: Big long readpost with no mention of RR into vote RR seems weirder now but she's still town.
No mention of RR? Are you kidding, RR is the first person I have voted after my catch up. I said she is SCUM, please ISO me again and tell if you don't find it. I was so sure on RR and she completely ignored my accusations. Infact I supported khan's read on RR to lynch RedRyu yesterday...

The worst part of this game is Bcade who don't stop posting fluff.... and i am not suprised not everone reading everyone's post here.
how do you know ryu is a she I thaought it was a guy aren't supposed to assume everyone on the interwebz is a guy or something

also bc is not even remotely fluffposting

khan don't get your granny panties in a twist. gut tells me your town I am just trying to solidify the read through interaction

@ nero

omg majiffy did not "reign me in" except with thor and that has more to do with his relationship with thor. you are doing a serious misrep here cos I posted a helluva lot more than majiffy. you would have to be an imbecile to not be town reading me right now

in other news nacho is not getting as close to me as I would like and I agree with bc in that if you can spot town nacho early and strong he is town but he isn't so

but then I start to waffle again
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Post Post #3211 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:59 pm

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Nero stop poking AA9 she's town and your argument is stupid. I don't have time to actually address anything right now, but I'm caught up and it seems this is in order.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: thezmon221
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Post Post #3212 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:04 pm

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In post 3156, thezmon221 wrote:Firstly, my post has nothing to do with what you said in the first statement. Try again.

Secondly... umm... yeah. useless town and scum can be rather synonymous to one another.
not wrt wc. scum love "useless town" lynches
1. Nacho didn't even really tunnel him after the fiasco at the beginning of the day. And sure you can make it seem worse now after you've seen the flip. Otherwise it's a poor point.
wat is this I MEAN WHAT IS THIS
2. Just because you don't agree quite as much with his reads doesn't necessarily make them bad. However, I do know that I didn't like a lot of his reads.
town moves in herds. nacho is very good at finding the herd
3. But he did believe in the reads that he did push. Did you read his posts or submit to confirmation bias?
^smoke and mirrors
4. Go ahead and make that point. That's only speculation. The fact that I don't think he's scum, however, can't even prove that we are "obviously scumbuddies" without a flip.
^smells like scum desperation
When did I ever object that I didn't like those two points? I don't think you see the picture here. I said you had two good points, yes, but you have to look at the big picture. When your case is riddled with as much meta as yours was, it lacks that credibility in my eyes. I didn't vote for him because I read your meta read, and then I read his posts, and confirmed he was town. Notice when I voted OS, I supplied what another had as a summation of a case against him which had at least 5 pretty solid points.
meta is a beautiful thing. my case on nacho isn't about pattern matching at all it is knowing how he thinks and his basic approach to mafia.

so far I am waffling like hell but leaning scummy
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Post Post #3213 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:18 pm

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In post 3175, Nachomamma8 wrote:^actual scum

Bacde and I have a very complicated relationship.
yessssssss

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Post Post #3214 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:23 pm

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In post 3208, ffullisade wrote:
Nacho, Bacde where is the town core?


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Post Post #3215 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:31 pm

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I want to know why the "vig" is making a deal to lynch me tomorrow when he's so sure I'm scum. As a vig, if he is as sure as he claims to be, ghe could just off me tonight.
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Post Post #3216 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:53 pm

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Still here, need to catch up on the last couple of days.
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Post Post #3217 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:56 pm

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In post 3216, Rena wrote:I want to know why the "vig" is making a deal to lynch me tomorrow when he's so sure I'm scum. As a vig, if he is as sure as he claims to be, ghe could just off me tonight.
I don't think he is.
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Post Post #3218 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:58 pm

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In post 3208, ffullisade wrote:Nacho, Bacde where is the town core?

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it's slowly coming together
he won't be able to resist me forever, and i'm working on what the hell thor is doing, and he's treating me sort of weird so far.
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Post Post #3219 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:02 pm

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What prevented it from coming together on day 1?

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Post Post #3220 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:08 pm

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i couldn't get into the game day 1, got fucking railed for it
got into it a little bit, picking up a few bits of something, here i am
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Post Post #3221 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:23 pm

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ok.

so it wasn't like the formation process was actively hindered?

CTD should be totally in it. Who else?

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Post Post #3222 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:26 pm

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so mollie tells me that CTD was suspicious on day 1. but reading his outing his neighbor yesterday that looked totally town. paranoid as fuck then major facepalm.

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Post Post #3223 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:03 pm

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i'm starting to come around on AA9 being scum because she's so much more useless than when I played with her town game

someone give me something to do relating to this game because i lack the initiative to find something to do myself

also hd is so lazy omg

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Post Post #3224 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:23 pm

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In post 3219, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 3208, ffullisade wrote:Nacho, Bacde where is the town core?

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it's slowly coming together
he won't be able to resist me forever, and i'm working on what the hell thor is doing, and he's treating me sort of weird so far.
CTD is inactive, Desp is in...
the only reason I started looking at thezmon was because I was suspicious of nacho

remember that ffery when thezmon flips scum and I die

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