NY 164: Maniacal Street Mafia (Anticlimatically finished.)

Amethyst Kitty · Post Post #2600 (ISO) » Sat May 25, 2013 6:49 pm

In post 2583, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 2453, Amethyst Kitty wrote:are we seriously Lynching OS? that dude is town as fuck.
If Oversoul flips town. Amethyst Kitty is definite scum. (calling a town flip while doing nothing to prevent it)

Still trying to convince Mala of my read, while I do so I'm going to say that this is a clever way to set-up two mislynches.

first, I did not " do nothing to prevent it" and I have been calling OS town all game. part of my attack on Nacho was because he was choosing such a terrible target to go after early on

Haylen, Please don't replace out

same for KK

and Calm down Jiffy.

~Mara

Amethyst Kitty · Post Post #2601 (ISO) » Sat May 25, 2013 7:11 pm

Sucess!!!

VOTE: EddieFenix

Mollie/Jiffy, OS, bacde, Syry, Haylen, Bulbie, Join this wagon

DLG was replaced by Thad right? he should join this wagon too

Nacho, Sland, Nero, and Thor can join it too if they want

~Mara

Amethyst Kitty · Post Post #2602 (ISO) » Sat May 25, 2013 7:38 pm

Eddie is scummy for stuff outside the OS wagon, like how he suddenly Drops Mollie/Jiffy for Bulb with little reason for dropping the Hydra and with weak reasons to why he believed Bulb to be town. He jumped on Nacho opportunistically, and pushes him with "no real backing" when he called Mollie/Jiffy scum for doing the exact same thing. What's even worse is the fact that so many others had already jumped onto him, he as just going along for the ride. Nacho was also the person that He was chastising Mollie for tagging on I believe.

He also demands reads from several players when he himself isn't open with his reads.

then there's his interactions with OS. He just recently stated that he felt like he couldn't trust OS for doing the gambit, though when OS initially admitted that it was a gambit, instead of showing distrust he was actually open to what OS might have learned from it. The only time he has ever shown any negative emotion towards OS and what he's done with his gambit is when OS wagon started picking up. Before then, he didn't really care about him

~Mara

Bulbazak · Post Post #2603 (ISO) » Sat May 25, 2013 8:46 pm

In post 2568, Bacde wrote:
In post 2564, Bulbazak wrote: So this:

In post 911, Bacde wrote:the case on nacho is that nacho rules at mafia

but for some reason this game he is really lame

and his posts are lame
is not a meta read?
no its not

just because I can recognize when nacho is scum and you can't doesn't mean that its a meta read

So you're saying that your case, which relies on the assertion that Nacho is not playing like he usually does as town, is not a meta case? Are you high?

In post 2575, EddieFenix wrote:
In post 2559, CrashTextDummie wrote:
Nacho, Cephrir, thezmon, PV.
Anyone wanna take a bet on how many of them are opportunistic scum?
Out of the people you pointed out (and I bolded to be safe)... 1 or 2.

Which 1 or 2?

In post 2596, Nero Cain wrote: But all of Slandaar, Bcade and Bulb have speculated that its multiball as well. Why is this a sin for me but not them?

+ why am I not on your town list?

Translation: "Look at these players that have acted similarly to me. Why aren't they scummy? They should totally be scummy. Give me town cred."

In post 2598, Red Ryu wrote:
In post 2557, penguin_alien wrote: Bacde and Red Ryu, what does each of you think is the single top piece of evidence that Nachomamma8 is scum?
How he approached OS still remains the grimiest thing he has done this game.

Even though he was right, and Oversoul was lying?

BeautyAndTheBeast · Post Post #2604 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 12:24 am

In post 2597, Desperado wrote:
In post 2591, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:Good, I look forward to both of you leaving and being replaced by players that actually
want to play the game
.
No you're pretty much just being insufferable. You called me a fucking dolt because I misinterpreted something that you said. What's more likely...that you're being such a dick that multiple people have replaced out/have threatened to do so solely because of your attitude, or you're right and they're just pussies?

I am trying to diffuse the situ can you plz not throw gasoline on it tia

BeautyAndTheBeast · Post Post #2605 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 12:36 am

In post 2599, Red Ryu wrote:B&B I'm not a mod on this site but dude you need to seriously chill out.

this has nothing to do with you and this looks like opportunistic scum noise in order to look look busy, concerned and productive.

welcome to my scum pile

BeautyAndTheBeast · Post Post #2606 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 12:46 am

In post 2597, Desperado wrote:What's more likely...that you're being such a dick that multiple people have replaced out/have threatened to do so solely because of your attitude, or you're right and they're just pussies?

The latter.

In post 2600, Amethyst Kitty wrote:and Calm down Jiffy.

I'm perfectly calm, Dude.

Om the Destroyer · Post Post #2607 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 2:18 am

In post 2604, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 2597, Desperado wrote:
In post 2591, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:Good, I look forward to both of you leaving and being replaced by players that actually
want to play the game
.
No you're pretty much just being insufferable. You called me a fucking dolt because I misinterpreted something that you said. What's more likely...that you're being such a dick that multiple people have replaced out/have threatened to do so solely because of your attitude, or you're right and they're just pussies?
I am trying to diffuse the situ can you plz not throw gasoline on it tia

Quoting this just in case people still aren't realizing that Desperado is scum.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Desperado

Oversoul wagon doesn't appeal to me, the wagon composition makes me cringe.

~

Red Ryu · Post Post #2608 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 3:31 am

In post 2605, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 2599, Red Ryu wrote:B&B I'm not a mod on this site but dude you need to seriously chill out.
this has nothing to do with you and this looks like opportunistic scum noise in order to look look busy, concerned and productive.

welcome to my scum pile

You're being a douche to others at times and need to shut up.

There is a line.

Nero Cain · Post Post #2609 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 4:02 am

In post 2603, Bulbazak wrote:In post 2596, Nero Cain wrote:But all of Slandaar, Bcade and Bulb have speculated that its multiball as well. Why is this a sin for me but not them?

+ why am I not on your town list?

Translation: "Look at these players that have acted similarly to me. Why aren't they scummy? They should totally be scummy. Give me town cred."

no. Do you know the term selective scumhunting?

thezmon221 · Post Post #2610 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 5:08 am

In post 2568, Bacde wrote:
In post 2564, Bulbazak wrote: So this:

In post 911, Bacde wrote:the case on nacho is that nacho rules at mafia

but for some reason this game he is really lame

and his posts are lame
is not a meta read?
no its not

just because I can recognize when nacho is scum and you can't doesn't mean that its a meta read

Dude, it's a meta read. Quit fooling yourself.

Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2603, Bulbazak wrote:In post 2596, Nero Cain wrote:But all of Slandaar, Bcade and Bulb have speculated that its multiball as well. Why is this a sin for me but not them?

+ why am I not on your town list?

Translation: "Look at these players that have acted similarly to me. Why aren't they scummy? They should totally be scummy. Give me town cred."
no. Do you know the term selective scumhunting?

Sounds to me like a deflection/attempt to gain town cred.

Amethyst Kitty wrote:Sucess!!!

VOTE: EddieFenix

I really doubt you're going to get a Fenix wagon going. As much as I like it, I'd prefer an OS wagon, so would many others, and apparently there's interest in killing Nero now. So why don't you join one of those wagons since there's only like 3 days let?

Red Ryu wrote:You're being a douche to others at times and need to shut up.

There is a line.

+1

Nero Cain · Post Post #2611 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 5:12 am

In post 2610, thezmon221 wrote:Nero Cain wrote:

In post 2603, Bulbazak wrote:In post 2596, Nero Cain wrote:But all of Slandaar, Bcade and Bulb have speculated that its multiball as well. Why is this a sin for me but not them?

+ why am I not on your town list?

Translation: "Look at these players that have acted similarly to me. Why aren't they scummy? They should totally be scummy. Give me town cred."

no. Do you know the term selective scumhunting?Sounds to me like a deflection/attempt to gain town cred.

yeah!!! Asking Khan why he finds me scummy for something a bunch of others are doing is sooooo scummy.

thezmon221 · Post Post #2612 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 5:19 am

Well when you're being put under a spotlight and you go, "Hey! You should look at these guys too! They're scummy!" Kind of is scummy. You're deflecting pressure onto other people as opposed to actually defending against the points made against you.

Nero Cain · Post Post #2613 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 5:21 am

ummm... I did. Not my fault if you tools don't read.

Nero Cain · Post Post #2614 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 5:26 am

In post 2596, Nero Cain wrote:Its a 24 player game an current site meta suggest more than 1 killing faction. 6 scum seems the ideal number, weather its a 5 man scum team and a sk or two 3 man scum teams.

OH LOOK!!! Here I am explaining why I have that belief.

Bulb might be scum after all 'cause you know he selectively edited my post and didn't read my explanation. I was town reading Mozza so he might just be an idiot. IDK some people have suggested that he's scummy and yeah, claiming that I didn't give an explanation when I did could be scum lying instead of town horriblesness but me...

BeautyAndTheBeast · Post Post #2615 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 5:31 am

In post 2608, Red Ryu wrote:
In post 2605, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 2599, Red Ryu wrote:B&B I'm not a mod on this site but dude you need to seriously chill out.
this has nothing to do with you and this looks like opportunistic scum noise in order to look look busy, concerned and productive.

welcome to my scum pile
You're being a douche to others at times and need to shut up.

There is a line.

excuse me?

I have not said not one negative thing to anybody in this game ever since mastin said to cool it down

the first time

so why the fuck am I a douche? I have asked majiffy to dial it back cos I don't want to get force replaced since I spent a lot of time and energy in this game and there are a lot of players I like playing with or am interested in playing with plus its a mastin game.

and about lines. so let me get this straight. it is perfectly acceptable for nero to say

majiffy has fucked me into stupidity

? that it is perfectly acceptable that the personal details of my sex life are being used to put me down and discredit me? you are okay with that? seriously? not even if it hurts my feelings?

this whole thing does not even concern you, it is between majiffy, the players involved and mastin. you sliding in here to chime in when I have asked everyone to step back and take a breather so that there are no ill feelings or force replacements when it has nothing to do with you looks like a subtle form of buddying and fanning of the flames so that the situation worsens is scummy to the core. there is zero town motivation in that. if I was not so convinced nero was scum I would be voting for you right now.

I don't think I am the one who needs to stfu here

Nero Cain · Post Post #2616 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 5:36 am

In post 2615, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:it is perfectly acceptable for nero to say majiffy has fucked me into stupidity? that it is perfectly acceptable that the personal details of my sex life are being used to put me down and discredit me? you are okay with that? seriously? not even if it hurts my feelings?

it was obviously a joke. Its not even talking about your sex life. I don't see why it would hurt your feelings but that was never my intention.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #2617 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 6:00 am

Fifty-first Votecount

:

(

AKA, the "Get well soon mastin!" votecount

)

Oversoul - 9 (Desperado, Kublai Khan, Syryana, Nachomamma8, Cephrir, Bulbazak, thezmon221, PeregrineV, Nero Cain)

Nachomamma8 - 5 (Seanald, CrashTextDummie, Bacde, Red Ryu, Oversoul)

Desperado - 3 (ArcAngel9, Thor665, Om the Destroyer)
Thor665 - 1 (Slandaar)
Nero Cain - 1 (BeautyAndTheBeast)
EddieFenix - 1 (Amethyst Kitty)

Not Voting - 4 (ThAdmiral, EddieFenix, penguin_alien, Haylen)

With

24

players alive, it's

13

to lynch.

If deadline were to hit now, Oversoul would be lynched.

New deadline is Tuesday, May 28th, @ 12:30 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-05-28 12:31:59).

Haylen is having troubles with her account and is posting under Rena in the meantime.
mastin2, the mod, is sick.

Edit:

Votecount Histories!

Spoiler: Player Vote History

Spoiler: Voting History

Thor665 · Post Post #2618 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 6:03 am

I will admit I haven't read anything from Page 85 till here, and then just lightly skimmed this page.
I'm mostly waiting for the Mod's vote count and then I'll just vote the biggest wagon.

Oversoul · Post Post #2619 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 6:04 am

It'll be me Thor

Thor665 · Post Post #2620 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 6:04 am

I'm already voting the biggest wagon.

People should sheep me - my case is that i want a flip, and I think this town needs one at this stage.

Edit: are you bigger now? Is it AP with the most recent - hold on...

Oversoul · Post Post #2621 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 6:06 am

I'm big alright.

I was L-2/3 a few pages ago. I claimed, and that made some people move, but I'm pretty sure I am still the largest wagon.

Thor665 · Post Post #2622 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 6:07 am

What was your claim this time?

Oversoul · Post Post #2623 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 6:08 am

Lol. This time.

Hold on I'll link it

Oversoul · Post Post #2624 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 6:09 am

In post 2522, Oversoul wrote:
In post 2515, AngryPidgeon wrote:
Fiftieth Votecount
:

(
AKA, the "Synchronized Mod VLA " votecount
)

Oversoul - 10 (Desperado, penguin_alien, Kublai Khan, Syryana, Nachomamma8, Cephrir, Bulbazak, thezmon221, Haylen, PeregrineV)

Nachomamma8 - 5 (Seanald, CrashTextDummie, Nero Cain, Bacde, Red Ryu)

Desperado - 3 (ArcAngel9, Thor665,Amethyst Kitty)
penguin_alien - 1 (Om the Destroyer)
Haylen - 1 (Oversoul)
Thor665 - 1 (Slandaar)
Nero Cain - 1 (BeautyAndTheBeast)

Not Voting - 2 (ThAdmiral, EddieFenix)

With
24
players alive, it's
13
to lynch.

If deadline were to hit now, Desperado would be lynched.

New deadline is Tuesday, May 28th, @ 12:30 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-05-28 12:31:59).

Haylen is finishing her final exams.
Thor665 is on V/LA until Sunday, May 26th.
mastin2, the mod, is sick.

OH Wow. That's a lot of votes on me. I'm not sure that we can ever strum up support for another wagon based on the deadline so I'll just make this easier and let you all lynch me.

I'll claim though if it helps make sense of why I didn't really want to play this game.

I am two shot BP
.

It is why I made the gambit.
It is why I asked to not be vigged.
It is why I don't have interest in this game.

I really don't agree with the site meta that Bulletproof townies *shouldn't* claim because it pretty much makes people playing those roles trapped in an unforgiving situation. I think it is anti-town to include a role that has a prevailing site standard that is not only inherently not fun, but also inherently psychologically troubling. Me being BP is pretty much a curseas I don't know how to play this role and I wish someone more vested/better at the game like Thor or Nacho would have gotten it. I rarely if ever get nightkilled and I am more commonly left alive for which ever reasons. Probably because I am erratic with my playstyle.

Anyway scum reads

Well I don't really like a lot of the players in this game. I can't really quantify my feelings for their play other than it doesn't look transparent and they don't really appear to be trying but I would say that Nero and AK fall into that category of "I don't like, but I don't know why" so I suggest people look there. Especially AK. I think they've been coasting because they can really.

I still think that Haylen/Fuzzy is scum and the fact that Haylen voted me while she still has not completely caught up with the game is proof of that.

re: Nacho, I think he is town but I can't read him so take that with a grain of salt.

re: CTD, I really think he is town because he was very vocal about his mass claim this game contrary to the recent YOLOville game where he wasn't and was scum. I also think his analysis of his own mass claim suggestion is pro-town and the first time I've seen him use it eitherway so that looks town.

re: Bulbazak, I think he is town because he is playing aggressively and inspecting everyone

re: Thor, not really sure about him anymore. I thought he was pretty townie early game but his defense of me is suspect... He normally is ok with voting bad players and this game I have most certainly been a bad player. Be sure to keep your eye on him.

re: Arcangel, I have no fucking idea how to read her. She is in the same boat as Nacho really.

re: BatB, I think they are town. They have that confrontational thing going on. Thor should be able to read that hydra though.

re: Bacde, I think he is town. He is playing similarly to his play in the recently finished Theaters mafia where he was town. Read that if you want some really recent town meta.

re: seanald - town for his entrance post and his <3 Oversoul comments. No seriously he is town for those.

re: Om - I think they are town based on their aggressiveness and their play so far in the game

re: Eddie I think he is town for the same reasons as Om, Eddie was really digging into my motivations as a player for the reaction test which is town

I don't remember any of the other players off the top of my head. There's too many.

So yea.

1. I am sorry to Mastin for letting real life and just a combination of things get the best of me. In all honesty I shouldn't have participated in this game though.
2. I am sorry to the town and I will not hold a grudge against any of you for this lynch since I deserve it and it is humbling lol.
3. Carry on my will! Look into Haylen please.