NY 164: Maniacal Street Mafia (Anticlimatically finished.)

[EddieFenix]

I believe Oversoul's claim. It resonates too well with his awkwardness around his fake-claim gambit ("Why would anyone shoot me?", "I don't need protection because I am useless and if scum just want a kill in general at a later time they know my death won't be interfered with.") and I agree with Bacde that the claim post sounds town. SK is of course a possibility, but I'm not willing to pursue that possibility on D1 without having any indication that an SK is in the game to begin with.

Oversoul - 10 (Desperado, penguin_alien, Kublai Khan, Syryana, Nachomamma8, Cephrir, Bulbazak, thezmon221, Haylen, PeregrineV)

Nacho, Cephrir, thezmon, PV.

Anyone wanna take a bet on how many of them are opportunistic scum?

Out of the people you pointed out (and I bolded to be safe)... 1 or 2.

@OS

I'm going to remain skeptical about you in general. You pulled a gambit early game and I'm sure you can understand me being leery about fully trusting your latest claim.

Spoiler: <<< Yes, I suck because this is once more an incredibly-late mod-edited-votecount >>>

Oversoul - 9 (Desperado, Kublai Khan, Syryana, Nachomamma8, Cephrir, Bulbazak, thezmon221, PeregrineV, Nero Cain)

Nachomamma8 - 5 (Seanald, CrashTextDummie, Bacde, Red Ryu, Oversoul)

Desperado - 3 (ArcAngel9, Thor665, Amethyst Kitty)
penguin_alien - 1 (Om the Destroyer)
Nero Cain - 1 (BeautyAndTheBeast)
Thor665 - 1 (Slandaar)

Not Voting - 4 (ThAdmiral, EddieFenix, penguin_alien, Haylen)

With

24

alive, it took

13

to lynch!
Oversoul was at L-4!

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

[Oversoul]

I'm going to remain skeptical about you in general. You pulled a gambit early game and I'm sure you can understand me being leery about fully trusting your latest claim.

I understand.

Like I said, I'm accepting of my lynch.

[Amethyst Kitty]

I think Haylen is townish, why are people scum-reading Haylen?

Bacde, I'm waffling more on Nacho. I really don't think he's scum anymore

the last couple pages isn't enough to shake my Desp read... I think. I don't like his reaction to Jiffy in the slightest and it looks like forced? IDK

I like the Desp wagon more than I like the Nacho wagon, and I definitely like it better than the OS wagon, who is so town as fuck it's insane.

Hate that he actually claimed BTW but I think the claim is legit

~Mara

Pedit: Eddie's scum OMG will talk to Mala

[Cephrir]

I believe Oversoul's claim. It resonates too well with his awkwardness around his fake-claim gambit ("Why would anyone shoot me?", "I don't need protection because I am useless and if scum just want a kill in general at a later time they know my death won't be interfered with.") and I agree with Bacde that the claim post sounds town. SK is of course a possibility, but I'm not willing to pursue that possibility on D1 without having any indication that an SK is in the game to begin with.

Oversoul - 10 (Desperado, penguin_alien, Kublai Khan, Syryana, Nachomamma8, Cephrir, Bulbazak, thezmon221, Haylen, PeregrineV)

Nacho, Cephrir, thezmon, PV. Anyone wanna take a bet on how many of them are opportunistic scum?

This attack is cheap as all hell. What's opportunistic about this wagon and not all the others? Sure, it popped up quickly, but it's not like most of these players hadn't already expressed suspicion of OS. The only one here I could see giving any credence to is PV (since he still doesn't seem to have read the thread, I think?). The claim post does sound kind of town but it's not sufficient for me.

I don't really get why a BP should attempt a gambit that is more likely to get them lynched than nightkilled. Since it seems like this is going to wind up being OS vs. Nacho I'm sticking on OS. Probably going to keep voting him today unless a Haylen wagon materializes.

[Cephrir]

If anything that gambit would prevent you from being nightkilled (since you're claiming not to have an actual PR).

[Cephrir]

Eddie #2575 is a terrible post.

[EddieFenix]

Eddie #2575 is a terrible post.

Sweet.

I think Haylen is townish, why are people scum-reading Haylen?

Bacde, I'm waffling more on Nacho. I really don't think he's scum anymore

the last couple pages isn't enough to shake my Desp read... I think. I don't like his reaction to Jiffy in the slightest and it looks like forced? IDK

I like the Desp wagon more than I like the Nacho wagon, and I definitely like it better than the OS wagon, who is so town as fuck it's insane.

Hate that he actually claimed BTW but I think the claim is legit

~Mara

Pedit: Eddie's scum OMG will talk to Mala

Oh pray... This should be good.

[Kublai Khan]

....really all in one page right in a row, someone is scum here. I lean nacho/Cephrir most.

If you're going to make this (bad) point, why leave off the BeautyAndTheBeast vote? It followed the Cephrir vote and had the same general format {no other comment except vote}.

Why not include the other couple of votes on the same page?

its also likely multiball

How in the world can town make this assumption on Day 1?

Why did an OS wagon pop up?

He's been the scummiest player all game.

are we seriously Lynching OS? that dude is town as fuck.

If Oversoul flips town. Amethyst Kitty is definite scum. (calling a town flip while doing nothing to prevent it)

Vote Nero, People. There IS An OS Alternative.

Why do you do shit like this? You were voting Oversoul, then you jumped off and are promoting a counter-wagon. All of this without any post by Oversoul? WTF?

If you don't think Oversoul is scum, then why did you vote for him at all?

If you say that this is a hydra miscommunication thing, then one of you seriously needs to drop this game because this sort of shit is ridiculous.

Not defensive, I just have issues with people coming into page 99 of a game and trying to make an argument based on the first 10, acting like they're hot shit as they do.

Why? The first ten pages of the game are where scum are most exposed. They haven't started figuring out how to manipulate people yet.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

How in the world can town make this assumption on Day 1?

Are you saying Nero isn't town? If so; why not vote him?
Are you saying Nero is dumbtown? If so; why so certain?

This question is just bad form whichever way you look at it.

Why do you do shit like this? You were voting Oversoul, then you jumped off and are promoting a counter-wagon. All of this without any post by Oversoul? WTF?

If you don't think Oversoul is scum, then why did you vote for him at all?

If you say that this is a hydra miscommunication thing, then one of you seriously needs to drop this game because this sort of shit is ridiculous.

Pretty sure Mollie made the OS vote.
And let me think about this... hmm, ahh... no. You have a problem with it,

you

can leave.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

Not defensive, I just have issues with people coming into page 99 of a game and trying to make an argument based on the first 10, acting like they're hot shit as they do.

Why? The first ten pages of the game are where scum are most exposed. They haven't started figuring out how to manipulate people yet.

Keep reading the argument and maybe you'll understand.

What is it with you people and refusing to read shit?

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

Seriously go find another fucking game if you don't want to read. Might I suggest... Uno? No, those have big four letter words on the cards... Go fish? Might be difficult to figure out if you're holding the card someone else asked...

Oh! I know! Freeze tag in a busy intersection! Yes, go do that.

[Rena]

Oi. That mod warning was aimed at you and me. I told them I'm sick of your bullsit.

Mods: If BB continues being an offensive asshole to everyone I'm replacing out.

<<< You're not the only one who has issues with that hydra. It's been dealt with. >>>

[Kublai Khan]

How in the world can town make this assumption on Day 1?

Are you saying Nero isn't town? If so; why not vote him?
Are you saying Nero is dumbtown? If so; why so certain?

This question is just bad form whichever way you look at it.

PLEASE TELL ME MORE ABOUT HOW ONLY SCUM OR DUMBTOWN TALK ABOUT MULTIBALL ON DAY 1.

also I guess this is multiball since thor said there will 3 to 4 nks we really need to pay attention to this cos it changes the dynamics

You never did get around to explaining this. Should I just mark it down as a dodge?

If you're going to be a shithead, then walk away from this game. You've consistently been the one player(s) that pisses off people in this game.

[Kublai Khan]

Mods: If BB continues being an offensive asshole to everyone I'm replacing out.

Seconded.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

How in the world can town make this assumption on Day 1?

Are you saying Nero isn't town? If so; why not vote him?
Are you saying Nero is dumbtown? If so; why so certain?

This question is just bad form whichever way you look at it.

PLEASE TELL ME MORE ABOUT HOW ONLY SCUM OR DUMBTOWN TALK ABOUT MULTIBALL ON DAY 1.

Nice deflection.
Do you think Nero is town or not? Because your question can be read either one way or the other, and each one has it's own follow-up question attached to it.

also I guess this is multiball since thor said there will 3 to 4 nks we really need to pay attention to this cos it changes the dynamics

You never did get around to explaining this. Should I just mark it down as a dodge?

If you're going to be a shithead, then walk away from this game. You've consistently been the one player(s) that pisses off people in this game.

Mollie can answer her own statements.

If I have to piss people off to get them to read the game, then so be it. I won't play nice just because people want to be lazy and not read, then make stupid assumptions or statements they would know are stupid if they

had read

.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

Good, I look forward to both of you leaving and being replaced by players that actually

want to play the game

.

[Kublai Khan]

Do you think Nero is town or not? Because your question can be read either one way or the other, and each one has it's own follow-up question attached to it.

Nero Cain isn't on my town list. Oversoul is far scummier and has a shot at being lynched.

I'm not moving my vote.

Mollie can answer her own statements.

Usual hydra bullshit.

Good, I look forward to both of you leaving and being replaced by players that actually

want to play the game

.

Mod: Replace Me

I play for fun, not to appease assholes.

[Bacde]

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

okay let's all step back from here

kublai khan, give it 24 hours, there is more than one head in this hydra

rena plz do the same

seriously we need to drop the notch of this down

[Kublai Khan]

Fine.

Mod: Belay that. I'll probably calm down later. But seriously, tell Majiffy to reign it the fuck in.

[Nero Cain]

In post 2401, Nero Cain wrote:its also likely multiball

How in the world can town make this assumption on Day 1?

Its a 24 player game an current site meta suggest more than 1 killing faction. 6 scum seems the ideal number, weather its a 5 man scum team and a sk or two 3 man scum teams.

But all of Slandaar, Bcade and Bulb have speculated that its multiball as well. Why is this a sin for me but not them?

+ why am I not on your town list?

[Desperado]

Good, I look forward to both of you leaving and being replaced by players that actually

want to play the game

.

No you're pretty much just being insufferable. You called me a fucking dolt because I misinterpreted something that you said. What's more likely...that you're being such a dick that multiple people have replaced out/have threatened to do so solely because of your attitude, or you're right and they're just pussies?

[Red Ryu]

UNVOTE: Oversoul

I'm good waiting to see how his play develops.

Bacde and Red Ryu, what does each of you think is the single top piece of evidence that Nachomamma8 is scum?

Amethyst Kitty, do you think Desperado is scum after the last couple pages?

How he approached OS still remains the grimiest thing he has done this game.

Saw the OS claim, do not want to lynch that + those posts come off as townie.

Can we lynch Nacho now?

[Red Ryu]

B&B I'm not a mod on this site but dude you need to seriously chill out.